Thursday July 03, 2008
Bangkok Post
The Senate and the House have forwarded petitions to the Constitution Court asking if the cabinet's endorsement of the joint communique with Cambodia on Preah Vihear temple violates the constitution. Senate Speaker Prasopsuk Boondej said he forwarded a petition signed by 77 senators to the court on Tuesday.
The court will rule whether a cabinet resolution endorsing the joint communique with Cambodia to support Phnom Penh's application to list the Preah Vihear temple as a new World Heritage site is constitutional. The communique was signed by Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama and Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister Sok An.
House Speaker Chai Chidchob said he also forwarded a petition by the Democrat party to the Constitution Court on July 1. It asked the same question.
On Saturday, the Administrative Court issued a temporary injunction against the cabinet resolution.
The Democrats will await a ruling from the charter court before deciding whether to seek Mr Noppadon's impeachment, party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said. Meanwhile, the government should notify the World Heritage Committee of the Administrative Court's ruling.
He said his party had no intention of hurting relations with Cambodia.
Pongpol Adireksarn, chairman of the Thai world heritage committee, believed the World Heritage Committee would consider the court's injunction before deciding the Preah Vihear temple case.
The World Heritage Committee started a nine-day meeting in Quebec, Canada, yesterday with a total of 47 sites being considered for World Heritage status.
Of these, 19 have been approved in principle by the committee, said Mr Pongpol. The Preah Vihear case was one of the 19 but the committee advised Cambodia to get Thailand's consent before seeking final approval.
On senators' call for Thai delegates attending the meeting in Quebec to withdraw from Unesco if the World Heritage Committee endorses Cambodia's listing of the temple, he said they could not.
Thailand is a Unesco member and withdrawal needs approval by parliament, he said.
The court will rule whether a cabinet resolution endorsing the joint communique with Cambodia to support Phnom Penh's application to list the Preah Vihear temple as a new World Heritage site is constitutional. The communique was signed by Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama and Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister Sok An.
House Speaker Chai Chidchob said he also forwarded a petition by the Democrat party to the Constitution Court on July 1. It asked the same question.
On Saturday, the Administrative Court issued a temporary injunction against the cabinet resolution.
The Democrats will await a ruling from the charter court before deciding whether to seek Mr Noppadon's impeachment, party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said. Meanwhile, the government should notify the World Heritage Committee of the Administrative Court's ruling.
He said his party had no intention of hurting relations with Cambodia.
Pongpol Adireksarn, chairman of the Thai world heritage committee, believed the World Heritage Committee would consider the court's injunction before deciding the Preah Vihear temple case.
The World Heritage Committee started a nine-day meeting in Quebec, Canada, yesterday with a total of 47 sites being considered for World Heritage status.
Of these, 19 have been approved in principle by the committee, said Mr Pongpol. The Preah Vihear case was one of the 19 but the committee advised Cambodia to get Thailand's consent before seeking final approval.
On senators' call for Thai delegates attending the meeting in Quebec to withdraw from Unesco if the World Heritage Committee endorses Cambodia's listing of the temple, he said they could not.
Thailand is a Unesco member and withdrawal needs approval by parliament, he said.
There is no reason for Cambodian to seek Thailand's consent on Preah Vihear since it is obvious that the temple belongs to Khmer 46years ago...We still go ahead and do not care about your groundless excuse !!!
ReplyDeleteIt's the same case, if Preah Vihear won't be listed in UNESCO, Cambodia should withdraw from this International Organization and also cut off diplomatic relation with Thailand. we can't make friendship with the thief!!!
ReplyDeletePreah Vihear will be listed in UNESCO!!!
Preah Vihear belong to Cambodia!!!
Please all khmer people joint the demonstration infront of Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh this week!!!
From khmer new generation!
What a greedy, shameless race...no wonder they're so despicable to the Khmers. Preah Vihears is ours, so please FUCK OFF, bastards.
ReplyDeleteThe Thais have no place in the civilize world...they are a bunch of assholes who can't get enough of Khmer land.
ReplyDeleteIf Preah Vihear is not listed as a world heritage, all Khmers must boycott all SIAM products everywhere.
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ReplyDeleteLuang Wichit (1941, pp. 129 – 30) writes:
The Cambodians are otherwise called ‘Khmer’ (pronounced as ‘Khamair’). But it is an
established fact that the Khmers and the Cambodians are not the same people. . . . About
fifteen centuries ago the Thai came down to this peninsula and, according to Monsieur
Etienne Aymonier, poured out in important influx, covering almost all the plains of
Indochina. The Thais, according to the eminent French orientalist professor Louis Finot,
spread themselves like an immense piece of cloth over the land from South China as far as
Burma. The Thai blood poured into Khmer veins with insinuating effect like water, to use
the expression of professor Louis Finot. The Khmers changed century by century. After five
hundred years of blood mixture, the Khmers became more and more similar to Thais both
physically and mentally. The coming into existence of this new name ‘Cambudja’ marked the
end of the old Khmer race and the birth of a new people who have 90 per cent Thai blood.
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I think Cambodia should list the entire "Thailand" as a Khmer heritage with UNESCO since they are so Khmer! :-)
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Preah Vihear: A traumatic and sad story of stone of the two nations:
ReplyDeleteI am sorry to say that
many of us,
academics and old boys of Thai foreign service,
are doing disservice to the country.
The question of the Preah Vihear was settled
by King Chulalongkorn and
Prince Damrong, his Interior Minister in 1907.
It was to save sovereignty of Siam
and that Siemreap, Battambang, Srisophon
were exchanged with
Chanthaburi, Trad, and Dansai (Loei).
But this was not recognized by Phibun-Luang Wichit, nor Sarit,
when in 1939 Siam was unwisely changed to Thailand and that
ultra nationalism was running high, in 1940s and 1960s;
and it is returning now.
I am sure we will regret this.
And what I could say is that:
Father
forgive them they know not what they do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_sad.gif)
Regards.
Charnvit
Thai nationalism and Thai-ification is one of those policy that can be compared to National Socialist (NAZI) policy of Germany during WWII. It was very brutal toward its minorities like the Khmer and the Tai because of its connection with their kindsman of Cambodia and Laos. I know that such lesson were not taught in Thai History class or in Thai historical record but I do get it from my elders from our oral traditions and stories of songs and dance. These things are transfered only to close relatives and outsiders are not permitted.
The Thai version of NAZISM have never left Thai society after WWII because Thailand were never brutally defeated by outside forces. Germany, Italy and Japan who espoused such policy were defeated have abandoned its path of racial superiority. Thailand still hold on to such attitude.
To 1:05 pm
ReplyDeleteBecause Thai "Luang Wichit" thinks that Thais are smarter than Khmers and that the presen-day Khmers have 90% Thai blood. I think you are absolutely right my friend.
Our King-Father Norodom Sihanouk said he also has Thai blood. That's why he was able to win the court case over Thailand in 1962!
12:22 PM
ReplyDeleteBrother, please do not use "please" when you tried telling these Thai fuckers to FUCK OFF. Again, just take the "please" out.
FUCK OFF you fucking Thai shit.
Yup! This is how it should be done from now on.
Now, go ahead and carry your duty!
I would like to draw attention to all Cambodian people about the possibility that Peoples Alliance for Democracy (PAD) and Thai Govenment are playing trick on Preah Vihear Temple...
ReplyDeleteBe careful, 2 strategies of Thai : one pretends to support, while another one strongly oppose with their same goal is stealing the famous Khmer temple !!!
According to Ah Luang Wichit descendant of a Nan Chao slut and homeless thief in the old day, there was no such a people called the Khmer but the Khom instead. Hahahha. Ah Luang Wichit already died in this world and the Nan Chao Siem thieves later found an inscription carved in stone using the word "Khmer" long way before ah Nan Chao Siems ever set foot in the Khmer territory. Hahha. This clearly shows that Ah Siems are f*cking stupid people who can't even pronounce the word Khmer properly and even understand the word Kampuchea or Cambodge correctly. Hahha. If Khmer have 90% Thai blood, then Khmer would all have Nan Chao mongoloid feature like the Laotians already. Hahaha. The fact is Ah Siems really need to pack up and go back to their ancestral shitholes in Nan Chao. Ah Siems are a race of shitty shameless land-grabbing thieves.
ReplyDeleteWhat the fuck! Thai has its people working in the UNESCO! I hope this hearing is not BIAS. Please don't tell me that they siding to the Thai this time.
ReplyDeleteTo all Khmer leaders, you must present all proofs and doc to UNESCO.
We will win!
Charnvit in charter campaign
ReplyDeleteThe former rector of Thammasat University has launched a public campaign to propose four changes to the 2007 Constitution. Published on April 25, 2008
THE NATION
Charnvit Kasetsiri wants the government to amend the charter in accordance with international standards, which the 1997 Constitution had adopted but were torn up after the coup on September 19, 2006.
His proposals include a change from "The Kingdom of Thailand" to "The Kingdom of Siam", abolition of the Senate and the return of provincial status to Bangkok's Thon Buri district.
Abolishing the Senate would save the country money, he said.
The Senate is irrelevant for democracy in our country since the first constitutional monarchy was introduced in 1932, said Charnvit, who is also a historian.
Charnvit said the word "Siam" was a more suitable name as the Kingdom was home to more than 50 ethnic groups, not only Thais.
Demanding a new law to return provincial status to Thon Buri, the historian said Thon Buri had once been a province with a great history but had been destroyed by undemocratic rule since 1971.
Charnvit has asked members of the public to support his proposal by visiting http://www.petitiononline.com/SIAM2008/petition.html
Ah Karmen in Cambodia is all Talk. Just ignore them. A good example is in the 70's, they couped their king so that they can get rid of Vietcong from their land, but instead, they got their asses kicked, hahahahahaha, and then they shamelessly begging us for refuge, hahahahahahaha.
ReplyDeleteI think I'm graving for Thai's liver. I am one of the former KR took santuary near Thai's border before. I killed a lot of Thai. I ate their liver. I love it. I can't wait to eat them again.
ReplyDeleteHey 1:05 PM & 1:22PM,
ReplyDeleteYou've gotten it reversed. I don't think the French was in his state of mind, when he wrote, or if he really stated that Khmers' race are 90% Thais' bloodline in all of us. This is an idiotic statement ever coined!!!!
We agreed Thais are thieves. Let's examine some of the facts: Thai language is a derivative of the Khmers--to hide the origin of the language Thais modified the the alphabets/vowels. Next the traditional dance you have known in Thais today, it's a clone from Khmers--the different Thais may/may not wear the extended fingernails, or hip movement modification in the Haneman dance (King Monkey).
Least but not last, but very crucil for the Thais to adapt Khmers architecture from the King Jayavarman lineage. Well. Thais temples, palace, and square supporting columns of a building to imitate the Angkorian.
There are more than 90% of Khmer Culture Heritages are scorged in the Thais DNA.
True!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI hope that King in Thailand will tell its people that he is KHMER and want to join back with the motherland.
KHMER EMPIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
คำถามที่ตอบล่าสุด.คำถามที่ได้รับความคิดเห็นล่าสุด
ReplyDeleteOn 2 July 2008, Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama gave a press briefing at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, gist as follows:
ReplyDeleteNoppadon's conference:
The Temple of Preah Vihear
The Foreign Minister affirmed that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would cooperate fully with the Cabinet and comply strictly with its resolution regarding the Administrative Court’s interim injunction on the Temple of Preah Vihear issue. In this regard, the Ministry had already sent letters to inform the Government of Cambodia, UNESCO, the 21 member countries of the World Heritage Committee, Mr. Pongpol Adireksarn, Head of Thailand’s World Heritage Committee, the Thai Ambassadors to Paris/ UNESCO and to Canada, as well as other concerned agencies on the suspension of the effect of the Joint Communique supporting Cambodia’s application. The Minister was confident that recent developments in Thailand would not affect ties with Cambodia given the strong relations between both countries.
The Minister said that he would lead the Thai delegation to attend the 32nd Meeting of the World Heritage Committee, accompanied by representatives from the National Security Council, the Border Affairs Department, the Royal Thai Survey Department, Dr. Manaspas Xuto, head of the Thai delegation to the 31st Meeting in New Zealand, as well as the Directors-General or representatives of the Department of Treaties and Legal Affairs, the Department of Information, and the Department of East Asian Affairs.
The Minister explained that, during the past few days, he had refrained from giving interviews on this issue in order not to violate Court’s interim injunction while the scope of the injunction is still yet unclear. He reiterated that the Ministry had done its best to protect the interests of the country and that he stood ready to take responsibility for what he had done.
We (Khmer in Issan province) will get back our land and temple from Ah Karmen in Cambodia.
ReplyDelete9:06 PM, ACH ANH
ReplyDelete9:06 PM,
ReplyDeleteSi Ma Moeung!
Ei Ha Nee!!!!!!
Don't try to grab something that's not yours.It's ours.
ReplyDeleteKhmer HUN SEN (Kompong Cham) will slaughter the THAI and take back our provinces!
ReplyDeleteHUN SEN will eat THAI livers!!
He used to be a Khmer Rough (KHMER KRAHOM).
khmer compatriots!
ReplyDeleteThailand is of course interested in Preah Vihear, but what interests them more is the encroached land bordering Cambodia and Thailand. It is a lot of land riched in natural resource and wild lives. To me, it looks like a diverted tactic. Just watch!!
Rich in natural resource and wild livees my ass.You have nothing.ALL the wild lives are escape to the jungle in Thailand.All your forest were cut down by your corrupted govt.By 2060 yuons will be the majority and ah poor khmen will be the minority.By then they all will look pathetic.Khmen are good at one thing and one thing only and of course with a little BRAINWASH they will kill each others.
ReplyDeleteSo you want to withdraw from Unesco huh????
ReplyDeleteBe my guest!!!
Hahahahahahahah....
Look whose talking, there is barely a tree left in Siamland.
ReplyDeleteRemember that mud slide that kill many Siams few year ago, that's right grass cannot stop erosion.
8:01 PM
ReplyDeleteSiamland used to abuse Cambodia during the KR era. now life is harder right when you have to find your own bread!!!
Get out of our mountain, you stupid French people!
ReplyDeleteBonjour! kapeehk
ReplyDeleteAngkor and preah viharn were built by khmers in Thailand no question ask.The entire Westernside of the mekong will be ours too.The rest belong to our friend Viets.How do you spell KHMEN.Well, it spell C.H.A.M. PUTHO ARAHAING.
ReplyDeleteNo question asked that Khmer-Issan living thailand can't speak and write khmers. They are just a minority in their own land. How could they deserved to be call khmers? Are you slave of the Thais?
ReplyDeleteWhat about your stupid King Sihamoni? He's not even Khmer, but partially European.
ReplyDeleteWell,there are khmer Thai,chen Thai,yuon Thai,lao Thai.We are united in one and we love to live side by side in peace and harmony not like ah khmen in Cambodia.They are so fuck up. They can't even get along among themselve let alone with their neighbors ,and they are aweful noisy.
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen any Khmer's King write anything in Khmer for ages now. It is all in French.
ReplyDeleteVery true, 1:49.
ReplyDeleteThe funniest part of all is these French idiots want us to submit ourself to their ruling and become poor slob like them, hahahaha....
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like time to drive the infidel out of the Khmer Empire.
ReplyDeleteHey, you guys (Khmer-Thai) want me to hook up a meeting between Hanoi, Vang Chang, and Bangkok for that?
ReplyDeleteOMG!!! I can't believe the French try to trick us to become their slave!
ReplyDeleteI think we (Khmer, Lao, and Yuon) can take Phnom Penh in less than 3 hours.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt! but it's more fun to watch them killing each other politically though.
ReplyDeleteI knew it, I knew it, I knew it. Ah Karmen in Cambodia is fake Khmer, and they try to rip our temple off. What a bunch of fools?
ReplyDeleteBoo! you never get it! How samarth are you?
ReplyDeleteSamart kagnom kachit hachot? kachep? what the fuck kind of name?
Woh, woh, woh, cool it, fellows! Keep in mind that we put in a lot of money into Cambodia. If we destroying it, then we'll have to take the lost. Let's just be patient with our fellows Khmer for a while longer. They have been through a lot. I am sure they willl do the right thing when the time come.
ReplyDeleteif the thai are so independent why did they adopt the english word "land" like in thai(land) or thailand. so much of the fake siem. if i were them i keep siam because it sound so much better than thailand. anyway, icj rules supreme. god bless cambodia.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but that is a matter of taste and opinion. You got yours and they got theirs. We will be much better off without people like you who lack respect for other people opinion or taste.
ReplyDeletePS: Oh, and what are you going to complaining about next? The Thai's music should be more like the French or Fake Khmer?
ReplyDeleteIt that Siam one man show again boasting his ignorance on the net with pride.
ReplyDeleteDo you think sometime before writing, all your comments are non-sense.
When I read your comments it amaze how deeply retarded you are.
Try to say something intelligent for a change.
To 1.46Am and the rest of Khmer-Issan....
ReplyDeleteYou are stateless. No questions asked. You are under the thai king, who is of the English woman called ANNA's offsprings. He is not even a pure thai, let alone a khmer. He can't speak Khmer.
But, our king can. Sihanouk speaks and writes khmer. The fact that he write in French does make him a French man. Just like your king, who speaks and writes English. It doesnot mean he is english unless he is really one of the ANNA offsprings.
Hypocrite, just because our Thai write Thai doesn't make him a thai either. Thai doesn't live here but in China.
ReplyDeleteAt any rate, Thai is more Khmer than French, not to mention being strait is more Khmer than gay also.