Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Are the base maps used by the SRP to show Viet encroachment in Svay Rieng recognized by Cambodia?

Dear KI-Media Readers,

Some of you have expressed skepticism as to whether the base maps used by the SRP to place the location of border posts #184 thru #187 are even recognized by Cambodia. In order to clarify this issue, we did our independent research and we went back to the 1985 Border Treaty concluded by the People's Republic of Kampuchea (PRK) and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV). It should be recalled that the 1985 Border Treaty was later supplemented by the 2005 Supplemental Border Treaty.

As it turns out, the 1985 Border Treaty clearly lists the map sheets that both the PRK and the SRV agreed upon for border delimitation. Two sets of maps are listed in this treaty, the first set of maps consists of 26 map sheets at a scale of 1/100,000. These are the two pages providing these 26 map sheets and their sources. As can be seen clearly on the second page, map sheet "Trang Bang-Ouest" prepared by the "Service Geographique de l'Indochine" in 1952 is one of the official maps accepted for the area of interest here.
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Coincidentally, this is also the same map used by the SRP to pinpoint the location of border posts #184 thru #187:

The second set of maps listed in the 1985 Border Treaty consists of 40 map sheets at a scale of 1/50,000. The following are two pages from the 1985 Border Treaty providing a partial list of these 40 map sheets and their sources. As can be seen clearly on the second page, map sheet "Duc-Hue" prepared by the "1st Engineer Topo Group RVNAF (Corps of Engineer)" in 1966 is one of the official maps accepted.


Coincidentally, this is also the same map used by the SRP to pinpoint the location of border posts #184 thru #187:

We hope this clarification would put this issue to rest once and for all. However, if you still contest our finding, we humbly suggest that you bring this issue to PM Hun Xen of Cambodia and PM Nguyen Tan Dung of Vietnam directly for a final resolution.

Thank you,

KI-Media team

29 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:19 AM

    Ah Chhkae Yuon Hanoi

    Ah Me Kheatakor Reas Khmer

    Ah Chor Phlon Dei Khmer

    Kone Ah Bo Doi Chhlean Pean Srok Khmer

    Kone Me Sam Phoeunh Hanoi

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  2. Anonymous7:14 AM

    The Royal Government of Cambodia must take this issue seriously...all evidence must be reviewed, questioned and answered by PM Hun Sen.

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  3. Anonymous7:16 AM

    Khmer history will determine and judge if PM Hun Sen is a Khmer hero or a traitor to one's homeland.

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  4. Anonymous7:36 AM

    these are hard evidences that we need to show khmer people so they can see how much land has been encroached by the viets. it also opens another can of worms; all border demarcated posts have been planted much farther inside Cambodia from the real border lines drawn by the US Army. This is unacceptable. We can now hold hun zen;'s feet to the fire. The man-made canal traversing khmer farmers' lands is an obvious act of encroachment by the viet.

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  5. Anonymous7:59 AM

    KI Media Team,

    Your professional approach is well noted, sirs/madams.

    You are good and you are the kampujadevaraja. Thank you so much for this.

    prumviheardharma

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  6. Anonymous8:41 AM

    Where are RFI, RFA, VOA and other khmer radio, and Cambodian Border Committee? Khmer Mchas Srok? Why they did not pick up this story? This is very critical for khmer people to know why and how Cambodian integrity is violated.

    Khemr from WA

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  7. Anonymous9:04 AM

    To Ki-Team,
    They were nice drawing map and how did you make them? where are the legends for those map?

    Khmer

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  8. Anonymous9:10 AM

    King ta, king yeay, king euv, king meh, king kaun, king playboy, king sompeung, king kteuy.... all kings please help khmer nation. If you are real khmer king you know what you are supposed to do. Don’t just live and sucking khmer blood. Do you have something to say about this issue? Shame on you and your generation to come. I have not heard any king in the world who dares to sit idle when come to their national interest. Come on show khmer that you are really care.

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  9. Anonymous9:14 AM

    9:04
    I guess you will only believe what Hun Sen and CPP members tell you! You discredit honorable people like Mr. Rainsy, SRP, and Ki-media, but you believe all the ridiculous lies and spins from the Viet Puppet Regime. I truly feel sorry for you, how could anyone believe and support a dictator and party that is only successful at killing and destroying it's own people and who works only for the national interest of Vietnam! Please do not call yourself Khmer, because no self respecting and proud Khmer would ever think or believe the way that you do. You, along with your traitorous leader are a disgrace to our Khmer Ancestors!

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  10. Hun Xen, Chea Xim, Heng Xamrin9:41 AM

    Our master Vietnam extanded territory, inside Cambodia due to error of GPS from SRP equipment, there should be send it to troubleshooting, repair, calibrated in Hanoi, measure it again by our master Vietnam and our border Staff. From your servant.

    (Signed) Hun Xen, Chea Xim,Heng Xamrin.

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  11. Anonymous10:01 AM

    What Xam RainXy has showed his own map and alleged that the border demarcation posts from #184 to #187 were wrongly planted inside Cambodia's land between 300 metres to 500 metres, is just another lie which he and his self name party tries to blind Khmer people. It is the same way that he said he will take this issue to International Court and will come back to Cambodia soon, but so far, there is no International Court and he just shamely hides himself in France and barking likes a mad dog.

    Lie too much will defeat yourself a politician who is a man but has female character and a road runner.

    Khmer in Sydney CBD

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  12. Anonymous10:09 AM

    Eh 9:14 Am
    Maybe you are too much pro-SRP, so that you misunderstood my comments. Actually I make just a simple question about the Legend of those map. You know!! in order to consider any map as correct map, they should be completed all items including date, legend, direction so..on..Supposed you don't know about this, but you should be blamed because you are not specialized in it. For me, pesonally, SRP is simple person, he should not be valued or credited as honorable person...you know the reason why!!? I used to losed my 5000-US$ because of him while he was a Ministry of finance/Economic, I birded him for being Costumer Officer..But finally he lied me and now I become Tuk Tuk driver because of him.

    Khmer

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  13. Be honest I support really to show up evidents but it is not enough... Mr. Sam Rainsy we need more expert on border to involve in the care. Goole map made by company is not international institute member by nation.

    What I understand is that only the TRANG BANG, Sheet No. 220 (west), can be used because it is the map Cambodia is, officially, useing to mark the post.

    ខ្ញុំ​សរសេរ​ខ្មែរ! វ៉ា​ គឹម​ហុង​និយាយ​ថា «រដ្ឋបាល​បច្ចុប្បន្ន ប្រើ​ប្រាស់​ផែន​ទី​ដែល​តម្កល់​ទុក​នៅ​នឹង​ អង្គ​ការ​សហប្រជាជាតិ។ ខ្មែរ និង​យួន គឺ​មាន​តែ​ផែន​ទី តែ​អត់​ទាន់​មាន​ការ​បោះ​បង្គោល​កំណត់ នៅ​លើ​ដី​ជាក់​ស្តែង​ទេ។ អញ្ចឹង​ដល់​ពេល​រដ្ឋា​ភិ​បាល​ចាប់​ផ្តើម ប្រើ​ផែន​ទី​ហ្នឹង​ដើម្បី កំណត់​ទី​តាំង​នៅ​លើ​ដី​ជាក់ស្តែង ដោយ​ប្រើ​ប្រាស់​បច្ចេកទេស ទំនើប (វ៉ា គឹម​ហុង មិនបាន​ពន្យល់) ក៏​រក​ឃើញ​ថា ទឹក​ដី​កន្លែង កើត​ហេតុ​ហ្នឹង​ស្ខិត​ក្នុងដី​របស់​ យួន»។

    អញ្ចឹង​ខ្ញុំ​យល់​យ៉ាង​នេះវិញ! ទាល់​តែ​ហៅ​ អា​អ្នក​វាស់, អ្នក​បោះ, មក​វាស់​និង​បោះ​ជាក់​ស្តែង និង​ពន្យល់​ប្រាប់​អោយ​ច្បាស់ មិនមែន វ៉ា គឹម​ហុង ទេ ម្នាក់​ហ្នឹង​គ្រាន់​តែ​ជាក្បាល​ម៉ាស៊ីន នៃ​គណ​ម្មាការ​ប៉ុណ្ណោះ... ទន្ទឹម​នឹង​ហ្នឹង​ត្រូ​វអំពាវ​នាវ​រក​អ្នក​បច្ចេក​ទេស អន្តរជាតិ មក​ដើម្បី​ធានា​ភាព​ច្បាស់​លាស់ ព្រោះ​គណបក្ស សម រង្ស៊ី ក៏​មិនមែន​អ្នក​បច្ចេក​ទេស​ដែរ។

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  14. Anonymous10:29 AM

    9:04AM,
    Maps was provided by SRP. Thanks KI for posting! Thanks SRP for the hard works!

    Let's hope more Khmer open both eyes on this issues.

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  15. Anonymous10:35 AM

    8:41AM,
    RFA,RFI,VOA are bias.

    All media and radio in Cambodia is owned and/or operated, controlled by the traitor CPP. Therefore, the truth will never allow to widely publish to the public of Cambodia.

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  16. Anonymous10:48 AM

    GREAT JOB! BUT, YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS KIND OF PROOF BEFORE TAKING THE UNLAWFUL ACT. NEXT TIME, BE PATIENT AND ALWAYS PROVE IT FIRST.

    GOD BLESS KHMERS!

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  17. Anonymous11:23 AM

    if the posts were there frauduently, or even erroneously planted, what SR did was in no way illegal. The alleged wooden posts were within the farmer's property.

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  18. Anonymous11:42 AM

    WHETHER THIS MAP RECOGNIZED BY INTERNATIONALLY OR BOTH COUNTRY OR NOT? THIS MAP ONLY SHOW THE POINT OF SOME AREA, SO THAT WE DON'T IT A REAL MAP OR DESIGN MAP BY MR. SAM RAINSY.

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  19. Anonymous11:49 AM

    if it has been proved one way or another yet, why did you call it "TAKING THE UNLAWFUL ACT"????

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  20. Anonymous12:25 PM

    To someone who needs to know where the real border is,

    Please go to ask the owners of rice fields that said they are losing their land. Don't forget to ask two innocent farmers who are jailed at Svay Rieng Prison.

    I wish CPP to be voted for next election to see what's going on. Let's see Cambodia's destiny together.

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  21. Thes Meas12:43 PM

    Fugitive Sam Rainsy you can show the maps and ploted those border markers yourself, but without experts on the ground to prove them that these border markers are inside Cambodia you evidences are useless and lying.

    measthes@yahoo.com

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  22. Anonymous12:50 PM

    To measthes@yahoo.com

    Who is stopping you Vietcong slave mother fucker from going to the site where map is indicated to see for yourself!

    Mr. Sam Rainsy doesn't have time to babysit all you Vietcong slave mother fucker! Now the burden on you Vietcong slave to see and to prove the Vietcong naked aggression on Cambodian sovereignty!

    Now go do the right thing!!!!!!

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  23. Anonymous2:17 PM

    shut the fuck up ahmeasthes@yourn.cum , your useless comment most Cambodian understood ,and aware of Viet s scam so believe me do not waste your fucking times or perhaps change your new nick . It may helping you prolong your youn propagandas abit longer.
    Friendly reminder.

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  24. Anonymous8:31 PM

    Save Residence Plot

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  25. Anonymous9:03 PM

    fucking some khmer sidney australie I thing He is vietcong

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  26. Anonymous3:58 AM

    Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime

    Members:
    Pol Pot
    Nuon Chea
    Ieng Sary
    Ta Mok
    Khieu Samphan
    Son Sen
    Ieng Thearith
    Kaing Kek Iev
    Hun Sen
    Chea Sim
    Heng Samrin
    Hor Namhong
    Keat Chhon
    Ouk Bunchhoeun
    Sim Ka...

    Committed:
    Tortures
    Brutality
    Executions
    Massacres
    Mass Murder
    Genocide
    Atrocities
    Crimes Against Humanity
    Starvations
    Slavery
    Force Labour
    Overwork to Death
    Human Abuses
    Persecution
    Unlawful Detention


    Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime

    Members:
    Hun Sen
    Chea Sim
    Heng Samrin
    Hor Namhong
    Keat Chhon
    Ouk Bunchhoeun
    Sim Ka...

    Committed:
    Attempted Murders
    Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
    Attempted Assassinations
    Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
    Assassinations
    Assassinated Journalists
    Assassinated Political Opponents
    Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
    Assassinated over 80 members of Sam Rainsy Party.

    "But as of today, over eighty members of my party have been assassinated. Countless others have been injured, arrested, jailed, or forced to go into hiding or into exile."
    Sam Rainsy LIC 31 October 2009 - Cairo, Egypt
      
    Executions
    Executed over 100 members of FUNCINPEC Party
    Murders
    Murdered 3 Leaders of the Free Trade Union 
    Murdered Chea Vichea
    Murdered Ros Sovannareth
    Murdered Hy Vuthy
    Murdered Journalists
    Murdered Khim Sambo
    Murdered Khim Sambo's son 
    Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
    Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
    Murdered Innocent Men
    Murdered Innocent Women
    Murdered Innocent Children
    Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
    Extrajudicial Execution
    Grenade Attack
    Terrorism
    Drive by Shooting
    Brutalities
    Police Brutality Against Monks
    Police Brutality Against Evictees
    Tortures
    Intimidations
    Death Threats
    Threatening
    Human Abductions
    Human Abuses
    Human Rights Abuses
    Human Trafficking
    Drugs Trafficking
    Under Age Child Sex
    Corruptions
    Bribery
    Illegal Arrest
    Illegal Mass Evictions
    Illegal Land Grabbing
    Illegal Firearms
    Illegal Logging
    Illegal Deforestation
    Illegally use of remote detonation on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.
    Illegally Sold State Properties
    Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
    Plunder National Resources
    Acid Attacks
    Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
    Oppression
    Injustice
    Steal Votes
    Bring Foreigners from Veitnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
    Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
    Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters. 
    Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
    Abuse of Power
    Abuse the Laws
    Abuse the National Election Committee
    Abuse the National Assembly
    Violate the Laws
    Violate the Constitution
    Violate the Paris Accords
    Impunity
    Persecution
    Unlawful Detention
    Death in custody.

    Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.

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  27. Anonymous6:30 AM

    To Khmer Rouge supporter

    Ah Khmer in Sydney CBD  

    You're supported the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime who is responsible for killing almost two million innocent Khmer peoples and counting.

    Please do me a favor, don't ever tell anyone that you are Khmer, because you make Khmer peoples look bad.

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  28. Anonymous6:30 AM

    To Khmer Rouge supporter

    Ah Thes Meas  

    You're supported the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime who is responsible for killing almost two million innocent Khmer peoples and counting.

    Please do me a favor, don't ever tell anyone that you are Khmer, because you make Khmer peoples look bad.

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