Thursday, July 29, 2010

Former KR cadres react to verdict

Thursday, 29 July 2010
Thet Sambath
The Phnom Penh Post

Why do they want him to spend his whole life in prison? There is no need for this kind of vengeance.
FORMER Khmer Rouge cadres in the regime’s onetime stronghold of Northwestern Cambodia said yesterday that they were uninterested in Monday’s verdict against Tuol Sleng prison chief Kaing Guek Eav at the Kingdom’s war crimes tribunal, and untroubled by the prospect of further prosecutions.

Royal Cambodian Armed Forces Brigade 8 commander Yim Phim, a former Khmer Rouge military commander whose RCAF troops are now stationed at Preah Vihear temple, said he was aware of Monday’s proceedings but had not followed them closely.

“I am not interested in this verdict, and neither are my soldiers,” Yim Phim said. “I don’t see it as necessary.

Although the court had begun preliminary investigations in its third and fourth cases, and prosecutors had submitted a list of five unnamed potential suspects in September, Yim Phim said he and other former cadres were unconcerned.

If Samdech Hun Sen is in power, I believe it will be no problem and there will be no more arrests,” Yim Phim said. The prime minister has publicly expressed his opposition to prosecutions beyond the court’s second case.

In the most widely discussed aspect of Monday’s ruling, judges sentenced Kaing Guek Eav – alias Duch – to 30 years in prison. This penalty was reduced from 35 years because of Duch’s illegal detention from 1999 to 2007, and with credit for time already served, he will spend just 19 more years in prison.

Many victims expressed anger at this relatively light sentence, though Kong Doung, a former Khmer Rouge radio officer who is now director of Pailin province’s information department, said he was puzzled by this sentiment.

“Why do they want him to spend his whole life in prison? There is no need for this kind of vengeance,” Kong Doung said. Most people near the border, he said, were more concerned with the ongoing standoff with Thailand than with the Khmer Rouge tribunal.

“We are worried about Preah Vihear temple – we want to know whether the Thai troops will withdraw or not,” Kong Doung said.

Keut Sothea, a former Khmer Rouge military officer and now a member of the Pailin provincial council, said he had not tuned in for the announcement of Monday’s verdict.

More basic concerns, he said, occupied the minds of his constituents.

“People are too busy working and farming to feed their families and children,” he said.

Khan Nang, a former Khmer Rouge soldier now living in Banteay Meanchey province’s Malai disrict, said he did not take the tribunal seriously because it was not investigating all of those responsible for committing atrocities under Democratic Kampuchea.

“I do not see it as justice because the trials are just for a few leaders,” Khan Nang said. “They should try all the cadres who were involved in these crimes, even those who are leaders in the government today.

Duch’s detention

One question on the minds of some observers in the aftermath of Monday’s verdict was whether Duch, already the beneficiary of a reduced sentenced, could see his prison term further reduced by earning parole.

Upon the conclusion of their cases, the Cambodian government assumes responsibility for suspects convicted at the Khmer Rouge tribunal.

Suspects convicted in the Cambodian criminal system are eligible for parole after having served two thirds of their sentences.

The 2004 Law on the Establishment of the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia states that the government “shall not request an amnesty or pardon” for anyone convicted at the tribunal, and ECCC deputy prosecutor William Smith said Tuesday that this provision thus excluded the possibility of parole.

Asked about the legal status of Duch’s detention, Ministry of Interior spokesman Khieu Sopheak said it was “a good question” and referred questions to ECCC officials. Phnom Penh Municipal Court president Chiv Keng said such detention procedure was “under the ECCC’s duty”.

UN court spokesman Lars Olsen said Tuesday that there were “established procedures in Cambodian law for applying for parole, and it is not within the ECCC’s mandate to enforce those rules”.

ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY MAY TITTHARA

14 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:49 PM

    Youn were and are still behind the killing of Cambodian until now.

    Khmer Prom Den,

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  2. Anonymous12:22 AM

    good question in red above. it's called the law, that's why! law will penalized those who committted wrongs, etc... only lawless society like the stupid KR let criminals get away free. that is how people were abused, mistreated, etc under the crazy, stupid, idiot KR stone age regime! in a rule of law society, criminals will not be tolerated. it serves as a lesson for people to think twice before they hurt others, etc... it's the right thing to do!

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  3. Anonymous12:26 AM

    Hun Sen made a lot of promesses to Khiev Samphan, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary..
    And at the end, all of them are jailed and prosecuted..
    What Khmer rouges did to Republican Khmers ? isn't it ?

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  4. Anonymous2:14 AM

    There was NO Youn's involvement in the KR's killing from 1975 to 1978. It was KR alone who did all the killing. Khmer Rouge themselves, for fear of being further hunted down, intentionally try to twist the fact.

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  5. Anonymous2:23 AM

    We know the KR trials are a farce because war criminals like Henry Kissinger are not being prosecuted for their role in bombing Cambodia and helping bring Pol Pot to power.

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  6. Anonymous2:24 AM

    I believe Youn killed khmer, not KR.

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  7. Anonymous2:31 AM

    ignorance and isolation killed khmer during KR era. i noted there were a lot of uneducated people during KR era, really! and the state of lawlessness did not help that situation, then, you know!

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  8. Anonymous3:18 AM

    Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
    Pol Pot
    Nuon Chea
    Ieng Sary
    Ta Mok
    Khieu Samphan
    Son Sen
    Ieng Thearith
    Kaing Guek Eav
    Chea Sim
    Heng Samrin
    Hor Namhong
    Keat Chhon
    Ouk Bunchhoeun
    Sim Ka
    Hun Sen...

    Committed:
    Tortures
    Brutality
    Executions
    Massacres
    Mass Murder
    Genocide
    Atrocities
    Crimes Against Humanity
    Starvations
    Slavery
    Force Labour
    Overwork to Death
    Human Abuses
    Persecution
    Unlawful Detention


    Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
    Hun Sen
    Chea Sim
    Heng Samrin
    Hor Namhong
    Keat Chhon
    Ouk Bunchhoeun
    Sim Ka...

    Committed:
    Attempted Murders
    Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
    Attempted Assassinations
    Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
    Assassinations
    Assassinated Journalists
    Assassinated Political Opponents
    Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
    Assassinated over 80 members of Sam Rainsy Party.

    Sam Rainsy LIC 31 October 2009 - Cairo, Egypt
    "As of today, over eighty members of my party have been assassinated. Countless others have been injured, arrested, jailed, or forced to go into hiding or into exile."
      
    Executions
    Executed over 100 members of FUNCINPEC Party
    Murders
    Murdered 3 Leaders of the Free Trade Union 
    Murdered Chea Vichea
    Murdered Ros Sovannareth
    Murdered Hy Vuthy
    Murdered 10 Journalists
    Murdered Khim Sambo
    Murdered Khim Sambo's son 
    Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
    Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
    Murdered Innocent Men
    Murdered Innocent Women
    Murdered Innocent Children
    Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
    Extrajudicial Execution
    Grenade Attack
    Terrorism
    Drive by Shooting
    Brutalities
    Police Brutality Against Monks
    Police Brutality Against Evictees
    Tortures
    Intimidations
    Death Threats
    Threatening
    Human Abductions
    Human Abuses
    Human Rights Abuses
    Human Trafficking
    Drugs Trafficking
    Under Age Child Sex
    Corruptions
    Bribery
    Embezzlement
    Treason
    Border Encroachment, allow Vietnam to encroaching into Cambodia.
    Signed away our territories to Vietnam; Koh Tral, almost half of our ocean territory oil field and others.  
    Illegal Arrest
    Illegal Mass Evictions
    Illegal Land Grabbing
    Illegal Firearms
    Illegal Logging
    Illegal Deforestation

    Illegally use of remote detonate bomb on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.

    Lightning strike many airplanes, but did not fall from the sky.  Lightning strike out side of airplane and discharge electricity to ground. 
    Source:  Lightning, Discovery Channel

    Illegally Sold State Properties
    Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
    Plunder National Resources
    Acid Attacks
    Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
    Oppression
    Injustice
    Steal Votes
    Bring Foreigners from Vietnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
    Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
    Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters. 
    Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
    Abuse of Power
    Abuse the Laws
    Abuse the National Election Committee
    Abuse the National Assembly
    Violate the Laws
    Violate the Constitution
    Violate the Paris Accords
    Impunity
    Persecution
    Unlawful Detention
    Death in custody.

    Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.

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  9. Anonymous3:25 AM

    Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is the current Khmer Rouge Regime's leader?

    a) Pol Pot
    b) Nuon Chea
    c) Ta Mok 
    d) Khieu Samphan 
    e) Son Sen 
    f) Kaing Guek Eav
    g) Ieng Sary 
    h) Ieng Thearith
    i) Chea Sim
    j) Heng Samrin
    k) Hor Namhong
    l) Keat Chhon
    m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
    n) Sim Ka
    o) HUN SEN

    Fact:
    Pol Pot is a Khmer Rouge leader of the Democratic Kampuchea Khmer Rouge Regime.

    Hun Sen was a Khmer Rouge commander of the Democratic Kampuchea Khmer Rouge Regime and now, a Khmer Rouge leader of the Cambodian People's Party Khmer Rouge Regime.

    Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun and Sim Ka has been summoned by the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC).

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  10. Anonymous3:29 AM

    Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison?

    a) Pol Pot
    b) Nuon Chea
    c) Ta Mok 
    d) Khieu Samphan 
    e) Son Sen 
    f) Kaing Guek Eav
    g) Ieng Sary 
    h) Ieng Thearith
    i) Chea Sim
    j) Heng Samrin
    k) HOR NAMHONG
    l) Keat Chhon
    m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
    n) Sim Ka
    o) Hun Sen

    Source:
    DC-CAM

    Fact:
    During the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime;
    There are 196 prisons.
    There are 196 prison chiefs.
    There are 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples killed by the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime.

    Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
    Pol Pot
    Nuon Chea
    Ieng Sary
    Ta Mok
    Khieu Samphan
    Son Sen
    Ieng Thearith
    Kang Guek Eav
    Chea Sim
    Heng Samrin
    Hor Namhong
    Keat Chhon
    Ouk Bunchhoeun
    Sim Ka
    Hun Sen...

    Kaing Guek Eav is a prison chief of Toul Sleng prison.

    The UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC) must indict 195 other prison chiefs.

    "I will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders, I rather let the court fail."
    "Indict more Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders will lead the country into a civil war."
    Sammaak Mirt Hun Sen
    Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders

    Sammaak Mirt Hun Sen will no allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders who is responsible for killing 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples.

    Sammaak Mirt Hun Sen threaten to turn Cambodia into the Killing Fields all over again.

    War with whom?
    War with innocent Khmer peoples without weapon?

    Once a Khmer Rouge, always a Khmer Rouge.

    Khmer Rouge(s) continue to kill innocent Khmer peoples.

    Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
    Hun Sen
    Chea Sim
    Heng Samrin
    Hor Namhong
    Keat Chhon
    Ouk Bunchhoeun
    Sim Ka...

    "Duch (Kaing Guek Eav) 19 years sentence is too short and not fit his crimes."
    Sammaak Mirt Hor Namhong
    Prison Chief of Boeung Trabek prison

    What's Hor Namhong trying to do is, he want the whole world to know that he is not a Khmer Rouge and a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.

    Hor Namhong is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.
    Source: Phnom Penh Post

    Hor Namhong said to the French judge that he is not a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison, in fact members of his family was killed by Khmer Rouge(s).

    Hor Namhong can lies all he want, at the end, he got summoned and will get indict, prosecute, convict and sentence.

    Criminals likes to lies.

    The place where criminals lies the most is inside the court room in front of the judge(s).

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  11. Anonymous3:36 AM

    Who killed 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples?

    a) Pol Pot
    b) Nuon Chea
    c) Ta Mok 
    d) Khieu Samphan 
    e) Son Sen 
    f) Kaing Guek Eav
    g) Ieng Sary 
    h) Ieng Thearith
    i) Chea Sim
    j) Heng Samrin
    k) Hor Namhong
    l) Keat Chhon
    m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
    n) Sim Ka
    o) Hun Sen...
    p) all of above

    Source:
    DC-CAM

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  12. Anonymous4:17 AM

    Yim Phim ,you will be next to be in Court along with your old friends who committed crime against humen .

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  13. Anonymous10:25 AM

    Now Yim Phim can be arrogant and make such comment but in the next few months his guarantor will be gone and he will meet the same faith like other dogs who bark to get feed.

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  14. Anonymous2:03 PM

    as i read Yim Phim between the lines he's actually saying "there will be no more arrests .. or else Phnom Penh will hear from us".

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