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Good poem. However beware of the tricky Viet's ambitions of gulping Khmer land. The Chinese-Khmer are patriotic toward the kingdom than their ancestor land, China.
This is a generalization. It more likely applies to Khmer leaders. For the people of Cambodia in general, it's not fair to say that we are beggers. My family was a farmer. We worked so hard on the field.Two of my sisters later became successful business women. Maybe we can say some Khmers don't work hard. So Mr. Nhiek Kiri, don't think that you are a begger as well.
Please be impecable with your words and don't assume.
It's wrong for anyone to use the word 'impecable" " free from afult or blame" in any work of writing or speaking. Even Samdech Chuon Nath's literature analysises still contains word of fault or blame, and in Dhamma of the Buddha, too, won't satisfy all men. Come on! Only the one who has pure mind can be enlightened. Are you the one?
If the word "Khmer" is used in a sentence, it means any Khmer. The poem states repeatedly" KHmer this... Khmer that...".
Excerpts from the poem:
1. Since I was born, (I) see Khmer men and women were Chinese's slaves.
5. Khmer(s),unintelligent (no good ideas ?), can only become farmers.
7. Khmer races are slaves...
8. Khmer people are known as debtors ...
Based on the excerpts, I believe that the poem depicts all Khmers at certain parts of the writing.However, I can be wrong. I would like to hear from other people as well. So I can reflect on myself. Thanks.
11:29 PM, Is it true or not that Khmers, right now, the whole nation become slaves of either Yuons or Chens. If your Khmer is that glorious, Cambodia would be like this. You are not a bit more Khmer than I am nor other Khmers are. If you such a Khmer who has patriotic conscience, why don't you come forward and bravely to save you Khmers out of being slaves of Yuons or Chens?
If Cambodia is such a dirt-poor country and Cambodian people are such dirt-poor people and it is only right that a good poem like this will help convince stupid Cambodian leaders to think in different ways besides having a slave mentality and have short term outlook for personal enrichment!
This poem said nothing new about the state of Cambodia and the condition of Cambodian people from the time of King Sihanouk to Pol Pot and to Hun Sen and the facts are there for all dirt poor Cambodian people to see!
slave of america is better than slave of ah yourn and ah chine...
USA not slave of China.. CHina not enough to be boos of USA.. USA send a lot of company as HP, Dell, IBM, Apple to CHina coz china people are very low price so USA very good and smart. alitle bit USA will take out of those company to India, Thailand so china will become worse and fear. In the future, India is the first greatest economic world. But if china want to be war with USA, CHina will crazy. USA has everything on hand as Remote to bomb nuke to wipe of the world. USA has around 10,000 of Nukes china has around 300 nukes. USA has around 70 aircraft carriers and active 11 while china has only one. has ha.. stupid china. USA has many stealth military aircraft as F-22Raptor, B-2spirit,F-117, SR-71.... so don't compare china with USA. CHina didn't have troop in other country, USA has alot of troop around the world as south Korea(28,000Troop), Japanse(USS Goerge Washington aircraft carrier), Germany,USA put around 90 Nukes in Turkey, Holland.. USA has NATO(28 countries in EUrope, as England,Franch,Hooland , SPain, Cananda...) USA has great allies as Japanse, South Korea,Taiwan, SIngarpore, Phillipine, thailand.... most country in the world hate communiste so if the war start they will join with USA. remember that, TaiWan(next to china) hate china, south korea don't like communiste, Japanse hate china, Philippine hate china, Singarpoor hate china, Thai hate china... even russia and china now become great allies, but read the history... China hate russia so much. so RUssia always becareful with china...
Cambodians were genius and strong or we would never have existed as such nation but when time go bye we became stupid and week. why ? Reasons: 1- Chinese became rich and bought political influence for their business purpose- corruption and seldfishness began to sprout causing social chaos. 2- Viet political virus also infiltrated into Cambodia.
Now we are chaotic. Some love Viet and Sen, but hate Khmer rouge. Some love Viet and Sen but hate sihanouk. Some hate old Khme rouge but love new khmer rouge. Some in same family but have different people to hate and to support.
What the F... are you staying here, the American imperialist country? Why don't you go to live in Cambodia with the ultra-Traitor, Ah Khwang Mkhak? U Lucky Dog!
No they do not hate the Chinese(poetic do not stated it)Chinese food are greasy and good for cholesterol. But the writer wanted to remind Cambodians people to learn the Chinese and Vietnamese tricks ,because our human being has the same size of the brain so if the Chinese,Vietnamese dare to treat us bad we must STAND UP AND DESERVE SELF DEFEND .
that is what i said from the beginning--- the generalization. tha's all. why some of you guys are fighting and cursing? i don't understand it. i wrote the feedback from the beginning because the poet indicates that
khmer races are slaves and i wanted him not generalize our khmer people. i'm not talking youns and chinese.
So, the majority of the posters agree that we Khmers are slaves, illiterate and short minded. If that's the case, it implies to all Khmers-- you, me, all the posters, the author of this poem and all the leaders.So I agre
Note: The nature of most of poems can mean otherwise. It's great to see many different feedback and reflections on this poem. It's a great debate. I have learned something here.
After the Sweet Cucumber dynasty usurped the throne from Voraman dynasty, the Cambodian empire tarted to decline ever since, because the STUPIDITY OF SWEET CUCUMBERS' DESCENDANTS who always proclaimed themseves as Pouch Neak Mean Bon, and never learn to PROTECT the Khmer Empire as Voraman had done, plus never renovate or maintain the Irrigation System of Angkor Capital.
Khmer people ever since waited, waited for hundreds of years for the incarnation of a Sacred Man ( Preah Bat Thormoeuk) to save them, but they had never learned HOW TO HELP THEMSELVES FIRST, before Gods or Angels come to help them.
Mainly the Kings and stupid leaders intentionally leaves their own subjects into a deep ignorance for easy to control them.
So Ah Ho Chi Minh had known this stupidity of KHmer leaders.
Now Hanoi had a full control of Cambodia, and proceed to finally the Indochina Federation.
The most backpack person mostly ignore all kinds of problem trying to work harder and harder for living. Cambodia/ Chinese / Vietnam / Lao backpack are in US are family . Khmer Revere USA HAPPY NEW year 2012, to all Cambodia peoples and stay safe and successful with your jobs . Thanks .
10 06 am , I thinks you not really believer to Buddhism at all . Buddhist said compassion and compassionate is the best way to a peaceful , the bad temper is actually fulfill with frantic as clouds in your minds are covers with dust inside your heart and blind not really see anythings that is reality in this world .
48 comments:
Good poem. However beware of the tricky Viet's ambitions of gulping Khmer land. The Chinese-Khmer are patriotic toward the kingdom than their ancestor land, China.
This is a generalization. It more likely applies to Khmer leaders. For the people of Cambodia in general, it's not fair to say that we are beggers. My family was a farmer. We worked so hard on the field.Two of my sisters later became successful business women. Maybe we can say some Khmers don't work hard. So Mr. Nhiek Kiri, don't think that you are a begger as well.
Please be impecable with your words and don't assume.
This is only a friendly feedback.
នៅក្នុងកំណាព្យ ឥតមានប្រើពាក្យថា ‹‹ខ្មែរទាំងអស់››ទេ ។
Let's make love to save our nation!
CHANGE LEADERSHIP,CHANGE PEOPLE
LIVES.
LOOK AT 900-1200,KHMER EMPIRE,
KHMER PEOPLE WERE FAMOUS.THEIR
LIVES WERE SO GREAT.
LEADERSHIP CAN CHANGE THEM,IF KHMER
LEADERS KNOW HOW TO LEAD THEM.
It's wrong for anyone to use the word 'impecable" " free from afult or blame" in any work of writing or speaking. Even Samdech Chuon Nath's literature analysises still contains word of fault or blame, and in Dhamma of the Buddha, too, won't satisfy all men. Come on! Only the one who has pure mind can be enlightened. Are you the one?
10:59 PM--
If the word "Khmer" is used in a sentence, it means any Khmer. The poem states repeatedly" KHmer this... Khmer that...".
Excerpts from the poem:
1. Since I was born, (I) see Khmer men and women were Chinese's slaves.
5. Khmer(s),unintelligent (no good ideas ?), can only become farmers.
7. Khmer races are slaves...
8. Khmer people are known as debtors ...
Based on the excerpts, I believe that the poem depicts all Khmers at certain parts of the writing.However, I can be wrong. I would like to hear from other people as well. So I can reflect on myself. Thanks.
Please note that my English is not great.
11:23 pm-- My English is not great. Maybe the word "impecable" is not the right word. Do you have any idea of what word I should use?
Thanks.
11:29 PM,
Is it true or not that Khmers, right now, the whole nation become slaves of either Yuons or Chens. If your Khmer is that glorious, Cambodia would be like this. You are not a bit more Khmer than I am nor other Khmers are. If you such a Khmer who has patriotic conscience, why don't you come forward and bravely to save you Khmers out of being slaves of Yuons or Chens?
បទពិចារណា មិនលំអៀងទៅរកចិនទេ ប៉ុន្ដែបើ
យើងម្នាក់ៗចង់ធ្វើតែថៅកែគ្មានអ្នកចង់ធ្វើស្រែ
ចំការ អញ្ចឹងនោះអង្ករមុខតែឡើងថ្លៃជាមិនខាន
ព្រោះដាច់ខាតត្រូវនាំអង្ករចូលពីប្រទេសជិតខាង។
ពួកអាបល់បាយ មីបល់បាយ អ្នកតុបតែងកំណាព្យខាង
លើអស់នេះបានតែព្រុសនៅក្រៅប្រទេសតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ... ពួកអាចោលម្សៀត មីចោលម្សៀតអស់នេះវាគ្មាន
សេចក្ដីក្លាហាន និងនាំគ្នាធ្វើអំពើល្អណាមួយនៅ
ចំពោះមុខសមេ្តចអគ្គមហាសេនាបតីតេជោ ហ៊ុន សែន វរ្ម័នទី១! ដែលជាទេវតានៃកម្ពុជា នោះទេ
វាបានតែដើរជេរប្រមាថ បរិហាកេរ្កិ៍ ញុះញង់ ចោទប្រកាន់ ថ្នាក់ដឹកនាំកម្ពុជាតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ... !!!
គ្មានចិន, វៀតណាមម្នាក់រស់នៅប្រទេសកម្ពុជា ធ្វើថៅកែដូចពួកអាបល់បាយវាចោទប្រកាន់ថាស្អីនោះទេ!
ជ័យយោ! សមេ្តចអគ្គមហាសេនាបតីតេជោ ហ៊ុន សែន វរ្ម័នទី១! ជាទេវតានៃកម្ពុជា!!!
បរាជ័យ! ពួកអាខ្មែរក្បត់ជាតិរត់ចោលស្រុក!
បរាជ័យ! ពួកអាខ្មែរឆ្កែបំរើចក្រពត្ដិអាមេរិក !
បរាជ័យ! ពួកអាខ្មែរខ្ញុំកញ្ជះ បារាំង!
បរាជ័យ! ពួកអាខ្មែរខ្ញុំកញ្ជះ សៀម!
ពីអាញ
ជា សារុន
ប្រធានសាខាបក្សប្រជាជនកុម្មុយនិស្តកម្ពុជា
ឡូវែល ម៉ាស្ស ស.រ.អ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I3z2ld7Ujs
Hey, Chea Sarun, "traitors includes you, too, because you are running away from Srok Khmer.
Remember one very very old saying about Khmer:
ពីព្រឹកត្បកក្បាលចឹន ល្ងាចមឹនទាន់ ចឹនដាក់ខ្នោះ!
Unofficially:
At dawn, knuckle the Chink in the head, by sunset the Chink got you handcuffed...(Sihanouk's time).
and pretty soon if not already, it reads:
At dawn you get a run-in with the Viet, immediately after that, you are dead because of Sen-Sihanouk-Sinahmoni VIET'S SLAVE!!!
You-kow-who-I-am-already
If Cambodia is such a dirt-poor country and Cambodian people are such dirt-poor people and it is only right that a good poem like this will help convince stupid Cambodian leaders to think in different ways besides having a slave mentality and have short term outlook for personal enrichment!
This poem said nothing new about the state of Cambodia and the condition of Cambodian people from the time of King Sihanouk to Pol Pot and to Hun Sen and the facts are there for all dirt poor Cambodian people to see!
Nice poem...but just a generalization and not fully true.
Khmer were once rulers of South East Asia...now the wave has shifted. There are smart wealthy Khmer too.
I am Khmer but great grand parents are Chinese...and I can tell you that I am 1000% Khmer in my heart.
Again, I think all Khmer should work harder and be educated for a better future...
ពីព្រឹកឈ្លោះនឹង យួន ៥ មីនុត មឹនទាន់ យួនបាញ់
ខ្មែរលេង!
At dawn you get a run-in with the Viet, 5 minutes after that "YUON" shot Khmer dead for fun!
Bravo SEN/SIHANOUK/SIHAMONI!!!
To All Khmer Slaves :
slave of america is better than slave of ah yourn and ah chine...
USA not slave of China.. CHina not enough to be boos of USA.. USA send a lot of company as HP, Dell, IBM, Apple to CHina coz china people are very low price so USA very good and smart. alitle bit USA will take out of those company to India, Thailand so china will become worse and fear. In the future, India is the first greatest economic world.
But if china want to be war with USA, CHina will crazy. USA has everything on hand as Remote to bomb nuke to wipe of the world. USA has around 10,000 of Nukes china has around 300 nukes. USA has around 70 aircraft carriers and active 11 while china has only one. has ha.. stupid china. USA has many stealth military aircraft as F-22Raptor, B-2spirit,F-117, SR-71.... so don't compare china with USA. CHina didn't have troop in other country, USA has alot of troop around the world as south Korea(28,000Troop), Japanse(USS Goerge Washington aircraft carrier), Germany,USA put around 90 Nukes in Turkey, Holland.. USA has NATO(28 countries in EUrope, as England,Franch,Hooland , SPain, Cananda...) USA has great allies as Japanse, South Korea,Taiwan, SIngarpore, Phillipine, thailand....
most country in the world hate communiste so if the war start they will join with USA.
remember that, TaiWan(next to china) hate china, south korea don't like communiste, Japanse hate china, Philippine hate china, Singarpoor hate china, Thai hate china... even russia and china now become great allies, but read the history... China hate russia so much. so RUssia always becareful with china...
all stupid and fucking pussy
Cambodians were genius and strong or we would never have existed as such nation but when time go bye we became stupid and week. why ?
Reasons:
1- Chinese became rich and bought political influence for their business purpose- corruption and seldfishness began to sprout causing social chaos.
2- Viet political virus also infiltrated into Cambodia.
Now we are chaotic. Some love Viet and Sen, but hate Khmer rouge. Some love Viet and Sen but hate sihanouk. Some hate old Khme rouge but love new khmer rouge. Some in same family but have different people to hate and to support.
All Khmer Slaves + you too(1:55 AM)
nis keh hao tha chess pek vi tev chea chkout, chkout, keep going on easy conclusion
i'm wondering what's use for KI to post this kind of stupidity or insult?
CHINESE PHEUK TER (TEA),
NIYEAY REUNG ROK SI,
KHMER PHEUK SRA JUMPEAK LUY CHINESE,
NIYEAY REUNG SREY NHEE,
BEAR POR KAP JAC,
SROVEUNG OUR TINOUR,
TRET TRAUT DUOL DAEK,
CHKAE LIT MUOT......
T.PHARY
When does Cambodia start the fourth (4th) Indochina war?
I am kaun chau chine, I am trying to work hard and I am earn that top living, why are you a poem writer hate my Chinese people?
Go to hell ah pouch khmer khnhom ké.
U Mfker Chea Sarun,
What the F... are you staying here, the American imperialist country?
Why don't you go to live in Cambodia
with the ultra-Traitor, Ah Khwang Mkhak? U Lucky Dog!
No they do not hate the Chinese(poetic do not stated it)Chinese food are greasy and good for cholesterol.
But the writer wanted to remind Cambodians people to learn the Chinese and Vietnamese tricks ,because our human being has the same size of the brain so if the Chinese,Vietnamese dare to treat us bad we must STAND UP AND DESERVE SELF DEFEND .
Ther is no word exprssing hate in the poem!It's a generalization កាធ្វើឱភាសកម្ម of some Khmer characters, not all.
កុំភ្លេចឆៀងចូលមើលកំណាព្យតាក្រមង៉ុយផង នៅត្រងវគ្គដែលសរសេរថា៖
ជិនមានពីដូរលក់ ស្រូវកន្ទក់កន្តាំងទៅ...
អ្នកល្អថ្លឹងប្រឹងប្រឹត ព្រោះអាណិតខ្មែរ‹‹ល្ងង់ខ្ឡៅ››
កែ៖ ជីនមាន = ចិនមាន...
that is what i said from the beginning--- the generalization. tha's all. why some of you guys are fighting and cursing? i don't understand it. i wrote the feedback from the beginning because the poet indicates that
khmer races are slaves and i wanted him not generalize our khmer people. i'm not talking youns and chinese.
I like this poem, I consider that it is coinciding my thinking on the politic of China hacia Cambodia.
So, the majority of the posters agree that we Khmers are slaves, illiterate and short minded. If that's the case, it implies to all Khmers-- you, me, all the posters, the author of this poem and all the leaders.So I agre
Note: The nature of most of poems can mean otherwise. It's great to see many different feedback and reflections on this poem. It's a great debate. I have learned something here.
Dear all readers,
I do agree with the poem composer.
After the Sweet Cucumber dynasty usurped the throne from Voraman dynasty, the Cambodian empire tarted to decline ever since, because the STUPIDITY OF SWEET CUCUMBERS' DESCENDANTS who always proclaimed themseves as Pouch Neak Mean Bon, and never learn to PROTECT the Khmer Empire as Voraman had done, plus never renovate or maintain the Irrigation System of Angkor Capital.
Khmer people ever since waited, waited for hundreds of years for the incarnation of a Sacred Man
( Preah Bat Thormoeuk) to save them, but they had never learned HOW TO HELP THEMSELVES FIRST, before Gods or Angels come to help them.
Mainly the Kings and stupid leaders intentionally leaves their own subjects into a deep ignorance for easy to control them.
So Ah Ho Chi Minh had known this
stupidity of KHmer leaders.
Now Hanoi had a full control of Cambodia, and proceed to finally the Indochina Federation.
ពងទាកូនមួយគ្រាប់១ ០០០ៗៗ ធ្វើកង្ហាល ឆ្នាំបាយអគ្គីសនី ពោតស្ងោក្ដៅៗៗ កាហ្វេទឹកកកៗៗ អេតចាយ ប៉េតប៉ត
The most backpack people always
working hard for living , but the
most they hate too .
I do understood exactly most of
backpack's life .
Real Khmer in REVERE MA US
you are slave too mother fucker.all of you slave too.
The most backpack person mostly
ignore all kinds of problem trying
to work harder and harder for living.
Cambodia/ Chinese / Vietnam / Lao
backpack are in US are family .
Khmer Revere USA
HAPPY NEW year 2012, to all Cambodia
peoples and stay safe and successful
with your jobs .
Thanks .
I don't thinks really good
person whom speaking in a bad
words .
ពួកអាពូជខ្ញុំគេ ៥រយជាតិ....!
10 06 am , I thinks you not really
believer to Buddhism at all .
Buddhist said compassion and
compassionate is the best way to a
peaceful , the bad temper is actually
fulfill with frantic as clouds in your minds are covers with dust inside your heart and blind not really see anythings that is reality
in this world .
all of you only talk no action
Happy merry Christmas for all Cambodian people.
.................................
.......... ខ្មែរជាពូជខ្ញុំគេ ...........
.................................
Dear composer,
Over FIVE VIETS IMMIGRANTS will vote for Hun Sen, and CPP, how you expect to win the coming general election ????
correction,
I mean FIVE Millions Viet immigrants
You can "ធ្វើការបោះឆ្នោត" in Million Years maybe to win Hun Sen and it CPP " ពួកអាខ្មែរល្ងង់ខ្លៅ " អញ្ចឹងបាន ជាធ្វើ " ខ្ញុំគេ "
យ៉ងហោចណាស់ពូជខ្មែរធ្លាប់ខ្លាំងធ្វើជាចៅហ្វាយ
ត្រួតត្រាលើប្រទេសគេខ្លះថែមទាំងមានការសួយ
សាអាករមកថ្វាយខ្មែរទៀតផង នាសម័យដ៏រុង
រឿងសង្ឃឹមថាអស់លោកធ្លាប់បានជ្រាបហើយ
សម័យខ្មែរខ្លាំង។
តើបណ្ដាលមកពីអ្វីទើបខ្មែរសម័យក្រោយស្ទើរ
តែជាអ្នកខ្ញុំគេ?ខ្មែរគួរបន្ទោសអ្នកដឹកនាំវិញទេព្រោះប្រជាពលរដ្ឋលោកគ្មានសិទ្ធិអ្វីទាល់តែសោះ
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