Tuesday August 05, 2008
BANGKOK POST AND AGENCIES
Supreme Commander Gen Boonsrang Niempradit yesterday told Cambodia to stay away from Ta Moan Thom after the 13th-century temple became the latest hot spot between the two countries.
The army has informed its Cambodian counterpart of the Thai position, Gen Boonsrang said, adding that if Cambodian soldiers come to the area, they will be pushed back.
Lt-Gen Niphat Thonglek, chief of the Border Affairs Department, said Cambodian troops would be barred from entering the area, as Thailand and Cambodia have not settled the dispute over land surrounding the Preah Vihear temple.
A plan to reduce the number of Thai soldiers in the overlapping zone between Kantharalak district in Si Sa Ket and Cambodia's Preah Vihear province will be tabled during a cabinet meeting today.
The agreement was reached in the Joint Boundary Commission (JBC) meeting in Siem Reap on July 28 by Foreign Minister Tej Bunnag and his Cambodian counterpart Hor Namhong. The two countries also agreed to hold more talks to settle the dispute.
But Cambodian government spokesman Khieu Kanharith said further talks between their foreign ministers will not take place until Cambodia forms a new government in late September.
"There will be no more meetings until the new government is formed," he said in Phnom Penh.
The Ta Moan Thom temple was thrust into the spotlight on Sunday when Cambodia accused Thai troops of staying in the area it claimed to be part of Cambodian soil.
It is part of a group of the Ta Moan temples in the same area. Two other temples in the group are located on Thai soil, outside the disputed area.
The Cambodian complaint came after its soldiers were barred from visiting the temple on Saturday.
Cambodian Defence Minister Tea Banh said Cambodian soldiers and civilians were usually allowed to enter the Ta Moan Thom ruins for religious ceremonies, but over the weekend Thai soldiers blocked their way.
"They did not allow our troops to enter. That's why the dispute arose," he said. "Now we want the troops to stay where they are for a while."
Gen Tea Banh, confirming the Cambodian troops were still stationed nearby, said the two sides were "working on this issue".
After the weekend more border rangers from the Suranaree Task Force were mobilised to guard the temple and nearby historical sites.
A border ranger said there was no tension between Thai and Cambodian troops near the area, and discussions were conducted in a friendly manner.
Task force commander Maj-Gen Kanok Netrakawesana said Thai soldiers have been stationed around the temple for years.
The temple is in another location which has not been demarcated. Officials of the two countries had already surveyed the area to gather evidence for the JBC to decide where the borderline should be.
Cambodian Senior Minister Var Kimhong, who is in charge of border issues, said there was no legal doubt Ta Moan Thom was Cambodian. But Thailand is equally confident it is in Phanom Dong Rak district in Surin, opposite Oddar Meanchey province in Cambodia.
Fine Arts Department chief Kriengkrai Sampatchalit insisted the department has long taken care of the temple as Thailand's national heritage, while Cambodia has never shown an interest in maintaining the site.
The department registered Ta Moan Thom as a national heritage site years ago. Phnom Penh has never opposed the registration, the official added.
Mr Kriengkrai said demarcation in the area by the Thai-Cambodian panel would settle the dispute.
Historian Thepmontri Limpapayom said Ta Moan Thom belonged to Thailand, and he believed the new dispute over the temple was a ploy by Phnom Penh to divert Thailand's attention from the 4.6-square-kilometre disputed area near the Preah Vihear temple.
Historian M.L. Walwipa Charoonroj of Thammasat University said academics had warned government agencies that the Ta Moan Thom temple could be the subject of a serious dispute.
The army has informed its Cambodian counterpart of the Thai position, Gen Boonsrang said, adding that if Cambodian soldiers come to the area, they will be pushed back.
Lt-Gen Niphat Thonglek, chief of the Border Affairs Department, said Cambodian troops would be barred from entering the area, as Thailand and Cambodia have not settled the dispute over land surrounding the Preah Vihear temple.
A plan to reduce the number of Thai soldiers in the overlapping zone between Kantharalak district in Si Sa Ket and Cambodia's Preah Vihear province will be tabled during a cabinet meeting today.
The agreement was reached in the Joint Boundary Commission (JBC) meeting in Siem Reap on July 28 by Foreign Minister Tej Bunnag and his Cambodian counterpart Hor Namhong. The two countries also agreed to hold more talks to settle the dispute.
But Cambodian government spokesman Khieu Kanharith said further talks between their foreign ministers will not take place until Cambodia forms a new government in late September.
"There will be no more meetings until the new government is formed," he said in Phnom Penh.
The Ta Moan Thom temple was thrust into the spotlight on Sunday when Cambodia accused Thai troops of staying in the area it claimed to be part of Cambodian soil.
It is part of a group of the Ta Moan temples in the same area. Two other temples in the group are located on Thai soil, outside the disputed area.
The Cambodian complaint came after its soldiers were barred from visiting the temple on Saturday.
Cambodian Defence Minister Tea Banh said Cambodian soldiers and civilians were usually allowed to enter the Ta Moan Thom ruins for religious ceremonies, but over the weekend Thai soldiers blocked their way.
"They did not allow our troops to enter. That's why the dispute arose," he said. "Now we want the troops to stay where they are for a while."
Gen Tea Banh, confirming the Cambodian troops were still stationed nearby, said the two sides were "working on this issue".
After the weekend more border rangers from the Suranaree Task Force were mobilised to guard the temple and nearby historical sites.
A border ranger said there was no tension between Thai and Cambodian troops near the area, and discussions were conducted in a friendly manner.
Task force commander Maj-Gen Kanok Netrakawesana said Thai soldiers have been stationed around the temple for years.
The temple is in another location which has not been demarcated. Officials of the two countries had already surveyed the area to gather evidence for the JBC to decide where the borderline should be.
Cambodian Senior Minister Var Kimhong, who is in charge of border issues, said there was no legal doubt Ta Moan Thom was Cambodian. But Thailand is equally confident it is in Phanom Dong Rak district in Surin, opposite Oddar Meanchey province in Cambodia.
Fine Arts Department chief Kriengkrai Sampatchalit insisted the department has long taken care of the temple as Thailand's national heritage, while Cambodia has never shown an interest in maintaining the site.
The department registered Ta Moan Thom as a national heritage site years ago. Phnom Penh has never opposed the registration, the official added.
Mr Kriengkrai said demarcation in the area by the Thai-Cambodian panel would settle the dispute.
Historian Thepmontri Limpapayom said Ta Moan Thom belonged to Thailand, and he believed the new dispute over the temple was a ploy by Phnom Penh to divert Thailand's attention from the 4.6-square-kilometre disputed area near the Preah Vihear temple.
Historian M.L. Walwipa Charoonroj of Thammasat University said academics had warned government agencies that the Ta Moan Thom temple could be the subject of a serious dispute.
20 comments:
Dear My Strong man & Madam,
Please appeal to Neak Ta Klaing Moeung Army.. to fight against Siams..
No need to use Margic Spell....
Margic Spell means READY TO SURRENDER "
Excellency Achar Bandit Oknha Knmoy
We Khun Thais understand very well the spirit of your leaders who need only money and Power within kampuchea, he is strong man in Campuchea but weak with khun thais and Khun viet.....
we claim Preah viharn, ta man and others untill we return all to thais belongings and help the strong man in Power for half more century.... we agin we return Siam Rap to our territory too...
We Khun Thais learned a lot about the tactics, bad tricks kampuchean administration applied with campuchean people to take over lands and other properties.. so we used this trick/tacticsd to gain from Campuchia too... and we will win sdurely and Campuchea Army chief and leader do not dare to fight with thais,,,,, please be sure sure we guarantee.. remember ...
Wichai rungrat
Not too bad for rotten Thai robber, robbed land, stole the lanugage, stole identity, stolve the cutlure, stole the artifact, stole the temple, come to our land and tell us not go near our temple.
Why can not you evil Thai build your own temple?
Khun Thai ai bah 12:43 PM.
Thank you piece of shit. I also understand that your good leaders are also fighting for power, right? What about that? You stupid thais are addicted to power and stealing others' properties. And your people have been brainwashed by your good leaders to run around on the street fighting each other and protesting against the truth. You're just a monkey in the cage for your leaders to play with and you still dont realize that. how sad?
Dont even think of invading our territory. Learn your dirty history again befor placing any comment. You all been fooled by your god damn king. ai bah Adulyadej. I wish your dirty-mind king will say good bye to this world soon. There is non of your belongings in my Khmer land. Stop dreaming ai bah. Wake up to the world.
Dark Night Siam.
Wichai rungrat
Hey, fuck head! If you're not Thai, stop fucking playing game with your fucking own people. You are sick bastard!
What are you doing Wichai rungrat?
No matter who you are (might be "Viet")
STOP FUCKING AROUND!!!
Don't even think of disguish yourself anymore?
It is my sincere hope that Washington DC (District of Columbus) does not become a new Thailand capital city (in the not-too-distant future). Moreover, it is my belief that it would be judicious for Thailand to keep Bangkok -- as it’s the capital city of Thailand (not Washington DC), because Thailand is certainly does not want to become (yet) another Israel (de facto state?). Further, I see there is uncannily similar between Thailand (particularly in the south) and Israel. Certainly, Thailand has more problems on the horizon -- and, of course, greater challenges ahead.
Khmer farmer
Gen. Boonsrang Niempradit told Khmer to stay from her temple? The temple are Khmer. Thai do not even know what the name mean. Ta Muen Tom, Ta Muen Toch, Prasat Krobai are clearly Khmer. Take Thai to UN and get it over, and forever stop having anything to do with Thai. Of-course we welcome our brothers and sister to with our family back when those ten provices are ready to be united with us.
Long live Khmer!
It’s quite ignominious to have seen my government flexes its military muscles ONLY against the most pregnable people – their own people – when evicting or crushing the protesters, yet so afraid and scared when dealing with foreign aggression.
My questions of the day: “Why are you so mean to your VERY own people, and yet so tenuous and pregnable and willing to succumb to foreign pressure?” And “what kind of leadership are planning to teach to your followers, children, grandchildren, and other generations, when you’re unable to utilize the same power you have used against your own people?”
Suffice to say, yes – when dealing with foreign aggression, which has egregiously violated our sovereignty and territorial integrity, I see the powerlessness of the Hun Sen’s administration. Whereas when dealing with forcible land evictions and peaceful protests, I see all kinds of powers that have been used against the most pregnable people.
Now, every Khmer citizens knows and understands the weakness of our leaders, who we thought very impregnable and tenacious leaders, when, in fact, these leaders are pregnable and tenuous coward when dealing with someone or something that is more powerful than them. Now, we understand!
Khmer farmer
Prerequisite course before joining the newly elected government: “How to grab land and forcible evictions 101” course is currently being offer by the Hun Sen's University in Phnom Penh, taught by the CTN executive producer.
Also, “how to kill and murder your peaceful protesters peacefully course 101” will be offered later in the year by Sun Sen’s advisor, Dr. Kiev, PhD.
Should you have further questions, please contact either Lt. Gen. Kiev Sopshit or Mr. Kiev Kannarat.
Khmer farmer
This is a personal comment to this Thai guy 'Wichai rungrat'. How dare you said the temples belong to you and wanted to claim Siem Reap province? You should be ashamed of yourself. If I ever meet you, I will make you suffer so much, so that you can feel how much we are hurted from what you have done to us. You took our territory, our precious temples by force. You maintain no peace but unstability in the region and created more problems for the international community and the UN.I swear to god I will hunt you down and make you swallow all your dirty words back.
Wichai rungrat,
you are a piece of shit,little rat son of bitch with thousand dick fathers.you are a thai wanna be .i can smell your stinky ass a cross the ocean.stop pretend to be a thai.
if you want to kiss thai ass or wanna be a lady boy,you should learn some more thai,your thai spelling is so stink as your mama hole,or else you are just kon mi chor kachoy kert kroy krop phlorng.
Let just have war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shoot them, we ready for doome day!!!!
Let them test the suffering just like us for one!!!!!
Hmmmm....at least Thais didn't kill 2 million of their own brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, sons and daughters. Take you aggressions out on your own sloppy governtment and people. Khmen are weak minded. Just look at how poor your country is. As far as history goes.....we (Thai and Khmen) share a history! Did you forget about Srivijaya and what you Khmer's stole from it. Maybe you should return it.
LOL 2:228 AM, are you stupid?
The name of Srivijaya is aready indicating in Khmer..
Are you bling or not seeing it?
Srivijaya=Sreyvijey
Bravo Khmer!!!
Not as stupid as you. Srivijaya is not Khmer. Look it up. Or did you education system fool you too. And, yes, I do have bling.
we will win-win because:
Our military is strong enough- Most Generals/least Soldier/Many Ghost soldirs
Most Generals Obtained PHD Bandit from Cea Charouen Unv. P.Penh.
Our Defence Minister as Deputy PM also got PHD.
We have much more human Rosources than Thailand as most of our High Ranks official, Minister obtained Phd/Bandit/Doctor..e.g
Excellency Bandit Nhem Vannda
Chum Teav Bandit Men Sam An
Excellency Bandit Okna Mong Rithy& Sok Kong
Excellencies Bandits Chan Sarun/Chea Chanto/Pen Siman/Uk Rabun,Ith Prang/Sok An/Cham Prasith/Keat Chon/Te Banh/etc..many many Bandits(Doctorate degree)...
Samdach Deco got many Phd. Phd/Multi-Doctorates
So when we will go to UN or ICJ again we will use these human resources...
Thai leaders sometimes are also fighting for power, just out side image BUT never FORGET THAI NATIONAL INTEESTS we get benefits from this figting....... you see fighting and occupy Prah Viharn/Tamuan//to... siamrap...later Nom Pen and Co-Colonised Kampuchea with Viet( Siamo-Viet Co-Colonisation)
Wicha Rungrat
Krungthep Mohanokron
SWOT Analyse
win-thai
Stength:
we are stronger because most of military support is from individual's private property-means we are rich no need government budget.
Siams use govt budget to supply army.
Human resources- a lot of Generals-Phd. Excellencies- Co-ministers/Primeministers/ a lot of Kings/Samdachs..Oknhas
Budget: unlimited- collecting from people/monks/poors
Military strength- qualified/ mostly ghost soldiers (invisible)-many Generals
Margic Spell/Black margic: very effective- one thai army died may be due AIDS
Financial resources: land/govt. , any stateowned properties buildings/ heritage natural resources can be sold quickly to buy weapons without any parliamentary Approval ...
Power- handed only one strong man/ every thing can be decided fast...
Political Parties: no need to oppose any govermental decision
Infrastructure-very poor- makes rhais army difficult to move into Cam-territory
Economy: Low- Thais have nothing to eat when invade into Cam....
Weakness:N/A
Oppoertuny- unknown
Treat: uncountable/unknown
Conclusdion- Cam wins Siams unconditionally
Excellency Dr. Bandit Oknha Achar Knoy- Phd. in multi-disciplinary Subjects: Poli/Multi-econom. Laws /From Chea Chamreourn Unviersity PPenh/Campuchia
we have many evidence such as Phd. Theses regarding the Temple easy to prove UN to win prah viharn case... Khom do not have much... they have only Phd. Useless Phd without theses....
campuchia has only Advisors ... excellenciesPhd.& high posts officers without any respetive technical knowledges...
we will submit other temples as world heritages soon....samrap
bateysray...
wichai
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