By Pin Sisovann, VOA Khmer
Original report from Washington
02 September 2009
A 2000 border agreement signed between Cambodia and Thailand is not likely to yield results in longstanding disputes, a former minister told VOA Khmer.
The agreement put Cambodia at a disadvantage, and border negotiations will face endless crises, said Sean Pengse, former Minister of Industry and a border expert.
After Cambodia regained peace and the reintegration of Khmer Rouge fighters into society, border trade flourished, and the two countries signed a memorandum of understanding in June 2000.
However, it would have been better for Cambodia to negotiate on the border from a position of a 1962 international court decision, which “set a clear border with no white zones,” Sean Pengse said. “Why are there now white zones? Why should Cambodia negotiate? I believe Cambodia’s voice in the negotiation is useless, because we beg aid form them. Our country is small, and we should use international law, from which we previously had an advantage.”
The 2000 agreement led to the white zones, or disputed areas, he said, giving Thailand the chance to argue against rebuilding a market near Preah Vihear temple.
The temple is at the center of a military border standoff that has claimed seven lives so far. The market was destroyed in fighting earlier this year.
“The Phnom Penh government claims that I speak groundlessly about the MOU,” he said. “Now Thailand isn’t allowing us to rebuild the market that they burned down. They have warned us against rebuilding it, citing contradiction to the MOU. The Cambodian government didn’t realize the MOU contradicted our interests. If Cambodia wishes to develop anything at Preah Vihear temple, [the Thais] warn us it is a white zone.”
However, Var Kimhong, chairman of Cambodia’s border committee, denied the 2000 agreement included areas of Preah Vihear temple as white zones. The agreement was over cooperation on border demarcation for 805 kilometers from the Dangrek mountains to the sea, he said, adding that Sean Pengse’s claims are contradictory to the facts.
“He shouldn’t make comments if he doesn’t know the truth,” Var Kimhong said.
Thailand “warned us against rebuilding the market, claiming we were violating Article 5 of the 2000 MOU,” he said. “We responded to Thailand, explaining that we are rebuilding the market on the orders of Prime Minister Hun Sen, in honor of Article 5 of the MOU to keep the status quo before the MOU. The MOU was signed June 14, 2000. The market had been there since 1998.”
Many Thais objected to Cambodia’s bid to enlist the temple as a Unesco World Heritage Site. When it was listed in July 2008, the current military standoff began.
Sean Pengse said that Thailand has in the past and is now currently using negotiation time for its own interests.
“Thailand doesn’t want us to file a complaint with the international court,” he said. “The 2000 MOU states that the border dispute should be discussed. This deprives us of our right to file a complaint.”
However, Var Kimhong said the agreement has not lost groud for Cambodia and honors the 1962 agreement.
“If you read the 2000 MOU, you would see that it refers to all previous treaties, conventions and maps since 1907,” he said.
The government was seeking joint cooperation on border demarcation as its primary choice, in the name of being a good neighbor, he said. It has not deprived itself the right to complain on border demarcation contrary to a map signed between the French and Thailand.
Sean Pengse worries that negotiations will drag on and more serious incidents will ensue.
After regaining independence from France in 1954, Cambodia reclaimed Preah Vihear from Thailand, after regaining several lost provinces, such as Battambang and Siem Reap. Disputes over the temple escalated, including a severing of diplomatic ties between the two in 1958. Cambodia lodged a complaint with the international court, which decided in 1962 Preah Vihear temple belonged to Cambodia.
The agreement put Cambodia at a disadvantage, and border negotiations will face endless crises, said Sean Pengse, former Minister of Industry and a border expert.
After Cambodia regained peace and the reintegration of Khmer Rouge fighters into society, border trade flourished, and the two countries signed a memorandum of understanding in June 2000.
However, it would have been better for Cambodia to negotiate on the border from a position of a 1962 international court decision, which “set a clear border with no white zones,” Sean Pengse said. “Why are there now white zones? Why should Cambodia negotiate? I believe Cambodia’s voice in the negotiation is useless, because we beg aid form them. Our country is small, and we should use international law, from which we previously had an advantage.”
The 2000 agreement led to the white zones, or disputed areas, he said, giving Thailand the chance to argue against rebuilding a market near Preah Vihear temple.
The temple is at the center of a military border standoff that has claimed seven lives so far. The market was destroyed in fighting earlier this year.
“The Phnom Penh government claims that I speak groundlessly about the MOU,” he said. “Now Thailand isn’t allowing us to rebuild the market that they burned down. They have warned us against rebuilding it, citing contradiction to the MOU. The Cambodian government didn’t realize the MOU contradicted our interests. If Cambodia wishes to develop anything at Preah Vihear temple, [the Thais] warn us it is a white zone.”
However, Var Kimhong, chairman of Cambodia’s border committee, denied the 2000 agreement included areas of Preah Vihear temple as white zones. The agreement was over cooperation on border demarcation for 805 kilometers from the Dangrek mountains to the sea, he said, adding that Sean Pengse’s claims are contradictory to the facts.
“He shouldn’t make comments if he doesn’t know the truth,” Var Kimhong said.
Thailand “warned us against rebuilding the market, claiming we were violating Article 5 of the 2000 MOU,” he said. “We responded to Thailand, explaining that we are rebuilding the market on the orders of Prime Minister Hun Sen, in honor of Article 5 of the MOU to keep the status quo before the MOU. The MOU was signed June 14, 2000. The market had been there since 1998.”
Many Thais objected to Cambodia’s bid to enlist the temple as a Unesco World Heritage Site. When it was listed in July 2008, the current military standoff began.
Sean Pengse said that Thailand has in the past and is now currently using negotiation time for its own interests.
“Thailand doesn’t want us to file a complaint with the international court,” he said. “The 2000 MOU states that the border dispute should be discussed. This deprives us of our right to file a complaint.”
However, Var Kimhong said the agreement has not lost groud for Cambodia and honors the 1962 agreement.
“If you read the 2000 MOU, you would see that it refers to all previous treaties, conventions and maps since 1907,” he said.
The government was seeking joint cooperation on border demarcation as its primary choice, in the name of being a good neighbor, he said. It has not deprived itself the right to complain on border demarcation contrary to a map signed between the French and Thailand.
Sean Pengse worries that negotiations will drag on and more serious incidents will ensue.
After regaining independence from France in 1954, Cambodia reclaimed Preah Vihear from Thailand, after regaining several lost provinces, such as Battambang and Siem Reap. Disputes over the temple escalated, including a severing of diplomatic ties between the two in 1958. Cambodia lodged a complaint with the international court, which decided in 1962 Preah Vihear temple belonged to Cambodia.
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Pouchh Khmer Dauch Knear:Khmer VOA,Khmer RFA,Khmer US,Khmer Kror Horm,Khmer Khiev,khmer krom,khmer Surin,khmer Borey Ram must love each other,let ECCC free.....
"Flower and thorn are in the same stem"Our Lord Buddha
"War ends only when people love each other"
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1:46 PM
Good. My King is in China for medical check up. So how about your dying billionnaire dictator King in Thailand? Is he dead yet?
My next Thailand king will be the best and he will invade Khmer and take more temples, coz Hun Sen can not say no to Vietnam when my next king make a good relationship with Vietnam.
Now what are you gonna say?
Your next king will be Khmer. He will over rule Thailand for us.
Maybe HUN SEN annex all those Khmer's provinces back to Cambodia.
So haha...!!
6:11 PM,
KIng Bhumibol is dying or he may be dead already. But for being afraid of civil war in Thailand, the Thai government doesn't announce.
The world is gonna go into end of day soon. so vietnam or thailand can take all they want. But they can't take with them when everyone gonna go with the world.
The cpp is useless anyway.
Khmer and its land and resources can't count on them.
Hello good health goodbye cancer!!
The next Thai King, his face looks like Frankenstein.
To 6:11 PM,
Your next Thai King will be burned in HELL and won’t be returned to human. Your present Thai King is dying to dead soon and he won’t return to be born as a human also. Khmer will not surrender you….Ah fucking Thai, Thai Kingdom. You looted all kind of Khmer land and custom, Khmer tradition, language and a lot you stole. I can speak your Fucking Thai language because of your language was formerly Khmer. Do you understand Ah Fucking Thailand?
(Note: if you write long sentence like a whole book, I wouldn’t have time to read it.)
AngkorianMan Krama Man
Oop one more to all Khmers and Thai on 6:11 PM wrote. If you ever want to learn Thai, it is very easy because Ah fucking Thai language is formerly our Khmer language. Thailand looted everything during their invasion ca.1431. Khmer must stand up fight back. I wish Khmer don’t buy Thai products.
(Note: if you write long sentence like a whole book, I wouldn’t have time to read it.)
AngkorianMan Krama Man
We Thai and Vietnam will share the border by using Mekong river as the line.
Vietnam is waiting for Thailand to invade Khmer first then Vietnam will act as 1978.
9:47 pm, I agree with you that we will become one country just like the old time, Angkorian age that you were our slave again which we called you Siem.
1:22PM, you should say:
FUCK THAILAND
FUCK VIETNAM
Cursing Thailand alone proves that you are not true Khmer but Viet slave or plain Viet.
it sounds like the 2000 so-called treaty created this "white zones". however, the 1907 treaty still supersedes all others, not to mention the 1962 icj verdict as well. now, we all know the siem thugs are taking advantage of cambodia and khmer people at time of civil conflict. there ought to be an international law that prevent country from taking advantage of other country during time of internal or civil unrest, etc... that was exactly what the siem thugs did to cambodia, they took full advantage of warring cambodian. that's not right, to say the least. any international should only be honored during time of peace and prosperity, not civil unrest like civil war, war, etc...! cambodia should take thailand (siem) to the international court if they did take advantage of cambodia like this, really! think about it. wake up, cambodia! this is not the dark ages anymore. think in terms of competition because remember the world is larger and consisted of many many diferent nations and people and so forth. so, the tribal mentality don't match up or live up to the changing world environment, view, etc... get with the program. no more hunter gatherer mentality in cambodia! wake up!
Siams King Bhumibol will died from
malignant cancer in the next five years, then crown Prince Playboy man will run Siam with more hookers
than Siams today. Are you agree that 6:11 PM?
Khmer in U.S.A
11:09 why dont come and suck my dick
VIET SLAVE.... YOU ARE THE VIET SLAVE CAUSE YOU MOMS IS A VIET SLAVE MOTHERFUCKER....THATS WHY YOU ARE SO MAD CAUSE I DIDNT WRITE FUCK VIETNAM....
I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT FUCKING VIETNAM!!!!!
if you hate vietnam then you take your fucking time writing that you hate you vietnam you dumb FUCK....FUCK THAILAND
FUCK THAILAND AND THAT IDIOT 11:09
6:11 TELL ME WHERE YOU LIVE YOU FUCKING THAI SO I CAN COME AND RAPE YOUR MOM AND SISTER AND GRANDMA...AND MAKE THEM EAT THERE OWN SHIT
FUCK THAILAND
LOL.. 11:09 Ridiculous!!! You are the viet slave, FYI this article is about dumb thais not vietnam....YOU IDIOT 1:22 more patriotic then you, atleast he aint hateing his own people like YOU
6:11pm your next Thai King is the son who is on drug. Kama is on may be your next king will be swollowed by Sunami like the king grandson. Kama, kama, kama......will follow the rest of your Thai King. Can you see now your nation is falling down?
1:22pm you are going to need more viagra......
Fuck Thailand
Dear all,
Now, we should wake up and identify who we are because individual or interest group who created this English website (KI media)in which almost information provided only in favor of oppositition party, but it is not so helpful to the public interest in terms of sensibility, creativity, contructivity, productivity, and neatral judgement. If u say that Cambodia is not a demoncratic country, u a 100% wrong.
By the way, if u say that the demoncracy in Cambodia is not fully applied or partially carried out, of course your idea or judgement is sensible and valuable. But, it is still acceptable because Cambodia case is not as the same as other countries cases, we need sometime to make change.
If were u, anyway, I may be very shame due to the fact that information provided is only attacked individual person that lead to conflict of interests (your own problem). My suggestion is that u should provide fair and neatral information that would help our country and people. Especially; foreigners shall not be able to look down our nation due to the fact that we a in unique unity. Why? Because it does not matter even we fight with each other. We attack just in the purpose of progress and future develpment of ow own nation. If we try to attack individual, we can not change because of conflict of interest between supporters and oppositors. We can achieve a goal and do thing change unless we break difference and combine into commond interest,goal and vision.
We should learn from the past experiece, we lost when we broke, we won when we united.
From Thana
I am sorry, I am not intellectual person. My education backgrownd is little and my English is poor too.
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