2 October 2009
Opinion by Kok Sap
Originally posted at http://khamerlogue.wordpress.com
In view of Siam quarrel over Cambodia rights to speak for and defend its property, apparently Bangkok Post misspoke and mischaracterized Khmer nation. Two wrongs can’t be right.
I agree with Bangkok Post and find Hun Sen words are intolerable and unnecessary in dealing with so called modern Siam country. As human endowed with rights to express true feeling, Hun Sen appears to speak his mind in full graphic. But Hun Sen wasn’t highly educated and rooted out from noble clans.
But if we look at the episode from the cause and effect law, Hun Sen isn’t too far from being proper in giving fair warning to those who wanted to harm his home country. Bangkok Post should put itself in Hun Sen shoes to understand how he felt.
Siam royal stooges started border row with premeditated intent to cause burden and anguish for Cambodia. Make it worst, with no authorization Royal Siam Air Force had capriciously and repeatedly flown its aircrafts over Cambodia air space. All say in volume how intense and contemptuous of Siam toward Cambodia. So somebody in Cambodia has to openly give the benefits of the doubt of Siam belligerences and war calling.
Probably it’s a good idea for the ASEAN Summit next month to initiate discussion on Siam violations of neighbors to prevent war. Obviously Siam is the instigator for the whole thing. Thus it would be advantageous for ASEAN 2015 aim to solidify market under singular vision, singular identity in one community under Siam thumb. If not careful, Preah Vihear could be a spark of new Indochina war.
Before it’s broken it must be fixed, so ASEAN can’t sit on hands longer. In due to inadvertent effect, then it should bring in UN Permanent Security Council to help.
The world knows by now that Cambodia has had enough of war. Contrary Siam would not want to enter Cambodia to its imperialist war. Definitely it can’t afford two wars while its southern provinces inhabitants are fighting for independence and home rule. That has not escaped human rights observers and sympathizers attention. Plus the Communist China will not stand idle to watch its investments in Cambodia, its old and loyal ally, gone to waste in Siam unrealistic conquest. So the matter will be taken straight away to UN Permanent Security Council by China anyway.
From records, Siam has been the bully and trespasser toward Cambodia for the past 771 years. Much Cambodia territory and people were annexed to Siam control via manipulation, holding Khmer royal families hostage, or plainly wars. Recently PM Abhisit Avijjajiva wasn’t helpful in the process in launching his private website “I love Thailand” to erroneously insinuate Cambodia had taken Siam land several instances. That’s typical of most foreigner descents born into Siam confused mentality and twisted history. After much criticism and uproars, the website was off.
Subsequently Cambodia was not well received in world view because its Viet Cong trained Khmer Rouge killing fields’ atrocity in 1975-1979. In reality Cambodia has been in defensive and the receiving end throughout history.
The irony of Hun Sen harsh words should not blind Bangkok Post from knowing that Siam started the plots when UNESCO admitted Khmer Preah Vihear into world heritage site in 2008. Cambodia effort to register Preah Vihear with UNESCO was made known to Siam all along.
The real problem is not just UNESCO acceptance of Preah Vihear without listing Siam in partnership but the unilateral Siam drawn map post 1904-1907 Siam–French drawn map. Siam knew then that the colonized Khmer demanding the return all of its provinces along north and west of Dangrek –Cardamom range. But both colonialists french and siam ignored and forced new map down Cambodia throat until to date.
After the narcissistic Sarit Dhanarajata and Thanom Kattikachorn invaded and illegally took control of Preah Vihear, in 1962 the not so modern Cambodia took matter to the International Court of Justice in Hague. The ICJ had ruled that Preah Vihear temple located on and the surrounded site per 1904-1907 map belongs to Cambodia rightly. Also the Court ordered Siam to return all stolen artifacts from Preah Vihear to the proper rightful owner. None was complied and respected.
In retaliation dictator Sarit banned Khmer inhabitants, living under Siam control, from carrying on their tradition and heritage. Khmer language was outlawed and forbidden from teaching to children. Countless old Khmer scriptures and books found in pagodas were confiscated and burned down as an ultimate warning.
Again, in October 1991, Siam has signed Paris Accord to recognize and respect Cambodia territorial integrity and sovereignty. But when Cambodia is ready to demarcate its boundary line, Siam threw fits and tantrum over Preah Vihear admittance to world heritage registry.
It’s ludicrous of Bangkok Post to paint Siam as innocent virgin and victim in matter. The former colonists like France and England knew Siam history and its active intent to conquer Cambodia.
Now under royal backing, Siam current government seems to suffer memory lapse. As long as Siam royal stooge, PAD, will continue to twist politics to pressure the 2006 Royal Junta accomplice, Democrats Party and Abhisit government, the inevitable is expected.
The long range plan is Siam wanting Cambodia land with its concerted diplomacy in ASEAN circle and using US back door to enter UN permanent Security Council.
Cambodia is well aware of Siam twisted history and ill will toward Cambodia dating back to Phlek, Khuong and Sarit eras. Also during the refugee era 1975-1993, many international witnesses have learned first hand how Siam mistreated Khmers from both sides of its present border with Cambodia.
In 1979, Thai Task Force Unit 80 dumped 45,000-49,000 Khmers off Preah Vihear steep cliff to die from landmines, shots, dehydration and starvation. Those who ran back into Siam controlled territory were shot to death at point blank. The number of casualty was unreported and hidden from world press to date. The notorious Siam Task Force Unit 80 terrorized, robbed, raped, murdered and tortured countless refugees in camps. The sad part is many Thai Task Force members are Khmer descents.
Since 1907, in reality Cambodia avoided war with Siam at all costs even it had to lose provinces along Dangrek – Cardamom range. Now Cambodia wants Siam to respect 1904-1907 map and 1991 Paris Peace Accord. Ridiculously Bangkok Post exaggerated the 2003 incident led to destruction of Siam embassy and businesses because of the confused subject of Siam kingdom belittled Cambodia and Angkor Wat.
Nonetheless, Cambodia had not held public protest against Siam on going violations yet. Also note all the Siam property and business damages during 2003 protest were compensated in full. As Kasit Pyromya, current Foreign Minister and active PAD instigator, has called Hun Sen, the thug, who saw to fix problems to sooth Siam investors feeling.
For the so claimed modern Siam, yet it had not compensated Khmer property damages and live losses which caused by the Royal thugs, PAD. Days ago, Siam black clad soldiers arrested, shot and burned one of the 16 Khmer trespassers alive to death.
Other word, if Bangkok Post speaks of Hun Sen retaliation in harsh words that were just words. Yet his reaction was merely a reflection of the Bangkok ruling house hypocrisy. Shamefully Bangkok Post failed to print out Siam hypocritical ruler behavior. One can ask if the ruler lives the hypocrisy how could the subjects not to follow.
Borderline between Siam and Cambodia will never be resolved without the international commission step in to monitor the entire episode. The ASEAN will face the impasse of its 2015 aim unless Siam is fully reformed its present regime to restore 1932 democracy and world confidence. All 16 manipulative military coups to subjugate people into worshipping same hypocrite and inhumane ruler are quite enough. After all, is it Siam modern in broad definition?
Cambodia knows Siam too well and its words from the past or present government can not be trusted. Siam will always try to blame others for its own responsibilities. So the best bet for Bangkok Post to do is to call out the singular vision guy who divides and destroys Siam and its neighbor harmony. Then its condemnation of Hun Sen belligerence shall be heard and lauded. But as long as Bangkok Post dares not to condemn the sole culprit of Siam on going turmoil, then Hun Sen will not do otherwise.
Apparently Bangkok Post journalistic candor and modern civility seems missing from its conscience. Other than that Siam must stop playing victim over its spilled milk.
I agree with Bangkok Post and find Hun Sen words are intolerable and unnecessary in dealing with so called modern Siam country. As human endowed with rights to express true feeling, Hun Sen appears to speak his mind in full graphic. But Hun Sen wasn’t highly educated and rooted out from noble clans.
But if we look at the episode from the cause and effect law, Hun Sen isn’t too far from being proper in giving fair warning to those who wanted to harm his home country. Bangkok Post should put itself in Hun Sen shoes to understand how he felt.
Siam royal stooges started border row with premeditated intent to cause burden and anguish for Cambodia. Make it worst, with no authorization Royal Siam Air Force had capriciously and repeatedly flown its aircrafts over Cambodia air space. All say in volume how intense and contemptuous of Siam toward Cambodia. So somebody in Cambodia has to openly give the benefits of the doubt of Siam belligerences and war calling.
Probably it’s a good idea for the ASEAN Summit next month to initiate discussion on Siam violations of neighbors to prevent war. Obviously Siam is the instigator for the whole thing. Thus it would be advantageous for ASEAN 2015 aim to solidify market under singular vision, singular identity in one community under Siam thumb. If not careful, Preah Vihear could be a spark of new Indochina war.
Before it’s broken it must be fixed, so ASEAN can’t sit on hands longer. In due to inadvertent effect, then it should bring in UN Permanent Security Council to help.
The world knows by now that Cambodia has had enough of war. Contrary Siam would not want to enter Cambodia to its imperialist war. Definitely it can’t afford two wars while its southern provinces inhabitants are fighting for independence and home rule. That has not escaped human rights observers and sympathizers attention. Plus the Communist China will not stand idle to watch its investments in Cambodia, its old and loyal ally, gone to waste in Siam unrealistic conquest. So the matter will be taken straight away to UN Permanent Security Council by China anyway.
From records, Siam has been the bully and trespasser toward Cambodia for the past 771 years. Much Cambodia territory and people were annexed to Siam control via manipulation, holding Khmer royal families hostage, or plainly wars. Recently PM Abhisit Avijjajiva wasn’t helpful in the process in launching his private website “I love Thailand” to erroneously insinuate Cambodia had taken Siam land several instances. That’s typical of most foreigner descents born into Siam confused mentality and twisted history. After much criticism and uproars, the website was off.
Subsequently Cambodia was not well received in world view because its Viet Cong trained Khmer Rouge killing fields’ atrocity in 1975-1979. In reality Cambodia has been in defensive and the receiving end throughout history.
The irony of Hun Sen harsh words should not blind Bangkok Post from knowing that Siam started the plots when UNESCO admitted Khmer Preah Vihear into world heritage site in 2008. Cambodia effort to register Preah Vihear with UNESCO was made known to Siam all along.
The real problem is not just UNESCO acceptance of Preah Vihear without listing Siam in partnership but the unilateral Siam drawn map post 1904-1907 Siam–French drawn map. Siam knew then that the colonized Khmer demanding the return all of its provinces along north and west of Dangrek –Cardamom range. But both colonialists french and siam ignored and forced new map down Cambodia throat until to date.
After the narcissistic Sarit Dhanarajata and Thanom Kattikachorn invaded and illegally took control of Preah Vihear, in 1962 the not so modern Cambodia took matter to the International Court of Justice in Hague. The ICJ had ruled that Preah Vihear temple located on and the surrounded site per 1904-1907 map belongs to Cambodia rightly. Also the Court ordered Siam to return all stolen artifacts from Preah Vihear to the proper rightful owner. None was complied and respected.
In retaliation dictator Sarit banned Khmer inhabitants, living under Siam control, from carrying on their tradition and heritage. Khmer language was outlawed and forbidden from teaching to children. Countless old Khmer scriptures and books found in pagodas were confiscated and burned down as an ultimate warning.
Again, in October 1991, Siam has signed Paris Accord to recognize and respect Cambodia territorial integrity and sovereignty. But when Cambodia is ready to demarcate its boundary line, Siam threw fits and tantrum over Preah Vihear admittance to world heritage registry.
It’s ludicrous of Bangkok Post to paint Siam as innocent virgin and victim in matter. The former colonists like France and England knew Siam history and its active intent to conquer Cambodia.
Now under royal backing, Siam current government seems to suffer memory lapse. As long as Siam royal stooge, PAD, will continue to twist politics to pressure the 2006 Royal Junta accomplice, Democrats Party and Abhisit government, the inevitable is expected.
The long range plan is Siam wanting Cambodia land with its concerted diplomacy in ASEAN circle and using US back door to enter UN permanent Security Council.
Cambodia is well aware of Siam twisted history and ill will toward Cambodia dating back to Phlek, Khuong and Sarit eras. Also during the refugee era 1975-1993, many international witnesses have learned first hand how Siam mistreated Khmers from both sides of its present border with Cambodia.
In 1979, Thai Task Force Unit 80 dumped 45,000-49,000 Khmers off Preah Vihear steep cliff to die from landmines, shots, dehydration and starvation. Those who ran back into Siam controlled territory were shot to death at point blank. The number of casualty was unreported and hidden from world press to date. The notorious Siam Task Force Unit 80 terrorized, robbed, raped, murdered and tortured countless refugees in camps. The sad part is many Thai Task Force members are Khmer descents.
Since 1907, in reality Cambodia avoided war with Siam at all costs even it had to lose provinces along Dangrek – Cardamom range. Now Cambodia wants Siam to respect 1904-1907 map and 1991 Paris Peace Accord. Ridiculously Bangkok Post exaggerated the 2003 incident led to destruction of Siam embassy and businesses because of the confused subject of Siam kingdom belittled Cambodia and Angkor Wat.
Nonetheless, Cambodia had not held public protest against Siam on going violations yet. Also note all the Siam property and business damages during 2003 protest were compensated in full. As Kasit Pyromya, current Foreign Minister and active PAD instigator, has called Hun Sen, the thug, who saw to fix problems to sooth Siam investors feeling.
For the so claimed modern Siam, yet it had not compensated Khmer property damages and live losses which caused by the Royal thugs, PAD. Days ago, Siam black clad soldiers arrested, shot and burned one of the 16 Khmer trespassers alive to death.
Other word, if Bangkok Post speaks of Hun Sen retaliation in harsh words that were just words. Yet his reaction was merely a reflection of the Bangkok ruling house hypocrisy. Shamefully Bangkok Post failed to print out Siam hypocritical ruler behavior. One can ask if the ruler lives the hypocrisy how could the subjects not to follow.
Borderline between Siam and Cambodia will never be resolved without the international commission step in to monitor the entire episode. The ASEAN will face the impasse of its 2015 aim unless Siam is fully reformed its present regime to restore 1932 democracy and world confidence. All 16 manipulative military coups to subjugate people into worshipping same hypocrite and inhumane ruler are quite enough. After all, is it Siam modern in broad definition?
Cambodia knows Siam too well and its words from the past or present government can not be trusted. Siam will always try to blame others for its own responsibilities. So the best bet for Bangkok Post to do is to call out the singular vision guy who divides and destroys Siam and its neighbor harmony. Then its condemnation of Hun Sen belligerence shall be heard and lauded. But as long as Bangkok Post dares not to condemn the sole culprit of Siam on going turmoil, then Hun Sen will not do otherwise.
Apparently Bangkok Post journalistic candor and modern civility seems missing from its conscience. Other than that Siam must stop playing victim over its spilled milk.
20 comments:
On behalf of all Khmers, I strongly urge PM Hun Sen to take the following actions:
1) Stop all bilateral negotiations with Siam
2) Take the matter to UN and or ICJ
3) Prepare for an all-out war with Siam
Even a guy like me who don't understand much about politics, knows that a weak country drive on cruel and ridiculous claims. Siam/Thailand tries to hard to influence the world to believe their stories. Thai folks open restaurant with Preah Vihear temples with their flags and all don't bother me much until I said "I am Khmer.", a waiter went crazy drop his tray and yell "Kun-khmer bal leu" meaning "Khmer shut-up". This Thai restaurant is in LOWELL, MA near the city hall with many WHITE folks from the city hall eating their. I was surprise and never ate there again. Talking about discrimination these Thai folks.
I find that Thai folks often say that they built Preah Vihear and Angkor Wat which is false claim. I read many publications and author about Cambodia history. Thai spend their time being jealous of Cambodia wealth and busy scheming to claim these wealth.
If Thai people were capable of building advance artistic work then why Sukothai lack the knowledge to build anything big.
I met many Thai folks who are both living in US and from Thailand visiting US. They are wild about the topic ANGKOR WAT and PREAR VIHEAR. Cause the can't build such amazing work and that they believe that everyone of those work belongs to them.
I bet if it weren't for that CHINESE TRAVELER WHO VISIT CAMBODIA BACK THEN DURING ANGKOR PERIOD and write a book about Khmer people. Thais people would lay claim to creating of Khmer language and Khmer never exist.
I strong support the article.
Because of dirty ambition to neighboring countries, Siam become blind and stupid.
IT IS A NATURE OF A THIEF NATION!!!
Great and fair writing! Thank Kok Sap! And you too make the good point 3:13AM
In Solidarity
Thai is not stupid and not thief. Thai are smart and see weakness of Cambodia Corrupted Politic Leader.
It was Cambodia Political Government from the previouse King to today 3rd great educated former Khmer Rough that are stupid and thief of their own peoples. That the Thai see weakness in Cambodia.
I agree with 2:56AM
2) Take the matter to UN and or ICJ
3) Prepare for an all-out war with Siam
Cambodia government is not capable to negotiating anything 'cause they're only 3rd greater educate that's why it delay for so long. If Cambodia goverment is 12th greater US education level they should think this way: ==>>
2) Take the matter to UN and or ICJ
3) Prepare for an all-out war with Siam
We are "Three Stooges" Khmer, Thai, Laos. Same word, same meaning the different is dialect.
FAMILY bong pauon = Khmer pi norng = Thai pi nong = Laotian
LIE go hok = Khmer go hogk = Thai ki tort = Laotian
COMPLAIN dtor waa = Khmer dtor waah = Thai dtor wah = Laotian
CHEAP taok = Khmer tuuk = Thai tuug = Laotian
CHOOSE rerh = Khmer rerk = Thai
rerg = Laotian
CHANCE oa gaah = Khmer oa gaan = Thai oa gat = Laotian
ARREST jup = Khmer jaaup = Thai jaup = Laotian
NOW aylounih = Khmer deelnie = Thai deelni = Laotian
more to list...same, same, same
come, justice, life, learn, age, here, there, that, those, overthere, overhere, meat, reason, clever, clock, near, occur, open, close, paper, pair, practice, plate, promise, robber, rob, read, shape, sky, sport, special, story, table, week, plan, bag, along, smooth, spend, society, smell, time, type, side, air, according to, remember, week and etc.
CALENDAR: week, month, year, number, horoscope and script same, same, same.
Khmer562
ASEAN is useless. It's hiding behind its non interference policies, unable to solve any issues or initiate any useful things that a member state in need. It's simply just a talking exercise group work nothing else. Cambodia should withdraw its membership from ASEAN.
The Thais folks they are weird and allergic to Khmer people. Once they know you are Khmer you just observe their behaviours towards you. I'm not surprise of their reactions. This shows that there is a systematic program within the Thais education system and society to educate their people to hate and look down on Khmer people and falsify their history, but Khmers seem to look up at Thais people…..every thing made in Thailand is good……most Khmers watch Thais soap opera. This is not a perception it's a fact.
The Thais are the most hypocrite people in SE Asia. If given the chance they would love to kill off the Khmer race. They won't hesitate to do it.
So true on the belligerent Thai toward Cambodia. Thank you Kok Sap for putting this in writing. I like it a lot. All facts on the Thai are true. I would like to put this on my blog.
Sorry I haven't been writing much lately. KI Media -- the best! I'm very much a regular reader here. Thank you!!
Vanak
Phnom Penh.
The Thai Thief royal family that rules over Thailand, a country famous for its child prostitution, thieves and drugs mafias.
3:13
Why don't you go to a website
about local resturant and leave a comment. Or local newspaper and leave a comment about that disgracful place. That would tell a lot to customers.
Khmer governments need to be more smarter in term of who they should be dealing with? If you want something done, you have to know where to go about getting things done, e.g. the head of the UN... or head of National Heritage Protection Rights and let them rule out to end this invasion crisis, or talk to supper power leaders such as the presidents of China,USA,USSR and other political leaders around the world. I believe, once you know where to go about of getting things done, it would takes only a second. Therefore, Hun Sen please try to understand this theory, if you knock the door will be opened, if you call out for help, help will come to you, there is nothing to lose when asked but you will lose alot more when you don't ask!...
I agree with 2:56 Am
Hun Sen Shoukd stop to say something with Siam and do as
2:56 AM Said.
thank
Khmer Voraman
don't be stupid! preah Vihean has been ours Thailand! Sut up you Kom!!!
Wipe out Thailand with another Tsunami acid.....whatever left flash on the first pig of Cambodia...
If Thai really cornered Cambodia, Cambodia will say wipe out Thailand off the map.
siem people like this one can be so ignorant, sometimes!
in my khmer opinion, nothing good is becoming out of siem stinky mouths, really! go back to nanchoa province of china and stop stealing from cambodia, ok. by the way, the uniform this siem guy was wearing was stole from cambodia court custom, too, you know. in fact everything about siem court so khmer because they stole from cambodia, of course!
Rorneath and kluy are now the intruments of music which Siem or Thailand had intruduced to the world as their own. Isn't it sad? Come to visit the Amazing Thailand they say. Sure and it's going right back home, my Cambodia.
Thanks for a good article.
I post this link of Dr. Giles Ungpakorn may be some of you want to know the politics inside Thailand that could impact on Cambodia. Dr. Giles Ungpakorn is British-Thai.
http://wdpress.blog.co.uk/
Hi me again.
I want Cambodian readers to read "Two faces of Thailand", Dr. Giles wrote:
"The temple was built by the ancient Khmers and clearly belongs to Cambodia, both from a legal and historical point of view."
Now you see there're no Khom but Khmers who built Temples like Preah Vihear. Thais have falsefied Khmer history, but Dr. Giles disagrees with them.
http://wdpress.blog.co.uk/2009/09/20/two-faces-of-thailand-7003973/
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