Monday, May 10, 2010

Development can debilitate

Vendors cross the border in Banteay Meanchey province’s Poipet town last year. A professor from Thailand’s Shinawatra University says new research indicates infrastructure projects such as Poipet’s Cambodian-Thai Friendship Bridge can facilitate trafficking. (Photo by: Steve Finch)

Monday, 10 May 2010
David Boyle
The Phnom Penh Post

In the supermarket, what can we find? Is there anything from Cambodia? There are some natural products packed in Cambodia. But the majority of the stuff is Australian or Thai, or some stuff is Chinese and some stuff is Vietnamese and so on. Almost nothing is from Cambodia.
John Walsh warns that infrastructure projects can exacerbate human trafficking

Though often touted by the government and donors as evidence of development, infrastructure projects can in some cases negatively affect the Cambodian economy while simultaneously fuelling human trafficking, said John Walsh, a professor at the school of management at Thailand’s Shinawatra University, at a regional conference on migration last week.

On the sidelines of the gathering, dubbed the “International Conference on Mobility Patterns of Cambodian and Other Nationals in the South East Asia Region”, Walsh elaborated on his research into Cambodian migrant workers.

Walsh drew from interviews with 59 Cambodian migrant workers employed in jobs he described as “3D” – dangerous, dirty and disgusting. The interviews revealed that the workers gained little long-term financial benefit from their jobs in Thailand, and that they faced both isolation and discrimination.

Could you explain in a bit more detail how you think major infrastructure projects can exacerbate human trafficking?

Infrastructure, insofar as it means roads and railways and civil aviation and so forth – in this case it means mainly roads – it’s widely thought among the [Asian Development Bank] and the kind of international development thinking people that such infrastructure will inevitably help aggregate economic activity. But there is much less knowledge specifically about who would benefit and who would not benefit – I mean, who would suffer from it.

If we look at the [Cambodian-Thai Friendship Bridge in Poipet town, Banteay Meanchey province], this road is clearly facilitating migration because it’s just making it easier for people to go from one place to another much more quickly. And since we now have greater ownership of personal transportation like motorbikes and so on, people can go seasonally from one country to another and then go back for the harvest season or so forth, so that’s facilitating what’s going on. Since human trafficking is also clearly occurring across the border, then it is abetting human trafficking. That’s just one of the unintended consequences of the infrastructure development.

You think of a big, nice, new road and bridge, you don’t think of that as the standard avenue through which people would be trafficked.

But if, as so many people here have been arguing, there are established authority figures who have been facilitating human trafficking, then it makes sense for them to use the roads over which they’ve got control rather than taking them through the roads and the jungles through which they don’t have control.

What are the economic consequences of the Poipet Friendship Bridge?

Last night, I went to the Lucky Supermarket, because like all business-teaching people I have to see what’s being sold rather than go to the tourist places. In the supermarket, what can we find? Is there anything from Cambodia?

There are some natural products packed in Cambodia. But the majority of the stuff is Australian or Thai, or some stuff is Chinese and some stuff is Vietnamese and so on. Almost nothing is from Cambodia. OK, now, in a situation where very few Cambodian firms can produce and distribute food items on a reliable, high-quality basis, then clearly Lucky Supermarket as a representative of retail is going to get its stuff from overseas. So it’s easier, presumably, to get stuff from Bangkok and drive it across the Poipet border point than it is to try and get someone up-country in Cambodia for the same products.

So in this case, again, the local people, through lack of their own capacity and ability in business and so forth, are going to lose out, and the larger producers – through economy of scale, economy of scope, all this kind of thing – are going to take advantage of the opportunity presented by the road. But that’s a one-way thing because coming to Thailand you’ll find very few Cambodian products coming the other way.

So it’s not like it’s an equal exchange. It seems, so far as I can tell, to be going just in one direction principally at the moment. Cambodia, meanwhile, is exporting labour, and the research that we did said that remittances are so low that they’re not actually making a difference for the families on a day-to-day basis.

But even if the money is just going into, for instance, paying off debts, surely they will eventually pay off that loan and thus benefit?

Yeah, but is it a loan that is going to improve their lives for the long term? Are they buying livestock, are they building a farm or are they just repairing a house in which they have to live in any case? Or is it just a loan to meet living expenses or educational expenses and so on? The sense that I got from our research was that the loans are not making a qualitative difference to peoples’ lives. They’re enabling the families to keep going, but without necessarily improving themselves.

Interview by David Boyle

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

not necessarily! i think in the beginning it may look like it's a problem of easy facititating of trafficking, and a one way trade route into cambodia, etc; however, if we think in terms of development of cambodia, it is a good thing. of course, everybody has to start somewhere, somehow! how else is cambodia supposed to move toward progress if people always have fear of this or that, etc... in beginning of things, it seems like something got to give for something else, really. i think it is a good thing in disguise for cambodia, despite some negative view about all of it. cambodia has to learn somehow, whether it it in development, infrastructure, trade, mingling with other countries, etc, etc... this is part of life, we have to learn from others, especially in technology, ingenuity, professionism, new idea or concept, new interpreneurship, etc... it is life, believe it or not! i think cambodia should expose to other countries economic pies, especially given stupid KR destroyed cambodia, etc... despite a lot of pessimistic or cynic view, i think in the long terms, cambodia will be better off in terms of skills, development, progress, infrastructure, etc... don't expect cambodia to stop growing. remember, cambodia is a nation and a nation needs to grow all the time, you know! god bless cambodia.

Anonymous said...

don't expect cambodia to stay undeveloped for long, ok! if neighboring countries are growing and developing, then cambodia will too. who wants to stay in the stone age or dark age forever, you know! cambodia must develop just like any other nation in asean, etc... really! get used to it, ok!

Anonymous said...

i think some greedy people are trying to keep cambodia isolate or least known to the world, almost like a hid paradise. that is so evil. i want to see cambodia develop like the rest of the world. who to judge that it's bad for cambodia. not all bad, really. development can make khmer people think, learn and have new skills, etc... how else are people supposed to gain critical thinking, new skills, etc, if they don't get experiences from the developed countries out there? i want cambodia to develop, not shun from the world, ok!

Anonymous said...

in the beginning there's always that curiosity, that hype, however, once it is a common sight, then people don't even think twice about anything, really. same concept here in cambodia. wake up cambodia. look around the world for new knowledging, thinking, conepts, ingenuity, etc...

Anonymous said...

We don't need border between Thailand and Cambodia, after all, all of the provinces at the EST of Thailand were Cambodia's, all of people in those provinces are Khmers, destroy border posts and open everything and speak Khmer..

Anonymous said...

I have seen more furniture in Australia is made in Vietnam but the wood is made from the trees of Cambodia. What is your opinion of that?

Cambodian Government has no idea to improve lifestyle of the people in the countryside and in the whole country in general. It has no guideline to support and to lead the people to develop and to make their living in the right direction. The people only struggling to make their living from all sort of means doesn't matter legal or illegal from small to large business, from hunting wildlife to deforestation just need to bribe the government officials that's all.

Like the case of the boy who killed his girlfriend after having sex with her. What sort of people is he? So stupid, ignorant, uneducated and selfish worse than animal. That is a typical Khmer man under the current government.

The ruling party want to keep people in the dark then they can be easily controlled and cheated.

Don't try to boast about a few streets and roads, a few bridges and lots of buildings and villas in the city, they are not belong to common people. Bridges and roads only from donations.

Anonymous said...

agree that gov't need to learn how to provide and educate the citizens, especially rural folks to provide for them, not just through gift and donation, but a lasting assistance like creating the human services agency, the welfare system for the handicapped and the disabled, the elderly, the social security system for retired people, etc... why are they so lack of these concepts or ideas. can't they study from the american system because in america, they already created all these services systems, all in place there. so all cambodia need to do is ask america for assistance or education or training in these social welfare system so cambodia can have them too to help out all these poors or disadvantaged people, etc... of course, gov't should wake up and do whatever necessary to put a system in place for the people can have a good living, a good care, a welfare system, etc, to help them through hard or difficult time as we all need help sometimes in our life time. we all know that cambodia lacks so many services, law, education, skills, etc..., but again, that what diplomatic corp and foreign embassies are there for, do ask them for assistance to help train and provide education to cambodia so we can be self-sufficient. i don't blame the current leaders because it is everyone in gov't responsibility to help make a difference. it is the one who blame or point fingers or do nothing except bitching, whining and complaining are the ones we have to be waried of as they are no good. it is the one who get out there and do something about it that is the one that deserve respect, praise, recognition, etc... you can have all the education in the world, but if you do nothing with it, you're no better than someone who did not finish high school but gone out to be successful, to make a real difference, to improve self, etc... nothing stays the same forever, including people, you know! why not make a real difference by direct or indirect contribution in any way we can. now contribution doesn't necessarily have to be in monetary form, you know, contribution can be in any forms, really.

Anonymous said...

helping cambodia and khmer people to become self-sufficient is very important.

Anonymous said...

This is a very productive criticism from John Walsh to Hun Sen and his cronies.