Friday, November 25, 2011

Michiel Pestman, Nuon Chea Defence - Response to Opening Statement by the Prosecutor - but he was effectively gagged from putting Eccc (pronounced "icky") the Clown on trial


"The English have an expression: the elephant in the room
The issue which 
overshadows all others, but which no one dares to mention. 
I am here to speak about the elephant, or rather elephants, in this Court room.   

This Case, this Court, suffers from at least four major flawsflaws most people involved know exist  but prefer to ignore..."

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

Vietnam's bad intention toward Cambodia will be unmasked.

We need to take this land thief, Vietnam, to the international court; otherwise Vietnam will keep creating turmoil in Cambodia.

After 1989, did Vietnam truly withdraw all of its troops back to Vietnam?

Did Vietnam comply with the 1991 Paris peace accord?

Millions of illegal and legal Vietnamese have been residing inside Cambodia, causing extreme concerns amongst Khmer people about the prospect that Cambodia would be the second Kampuchea Krom.

The killings during the Pol Pot's era were committed by the Khmer rouge, the Khmer Vietminh, etc.
Notice that Khmer Vietminh were created by Vietnam to make Khmers fight with Khmers, to make Khmers kill each others.

How about the K5, which killed hundreds of thousands of Khmer people in the 80's? This K5 scheme was totally orchestrated by Vietnam.

We need to take Vietnam to the international court about this K5 issue regarding Vietnam’s catastrophic action in Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

To 10:21PM

You need to be original and don't take what I have to say and twisted it around! You were not born before King Sihanouk and what make you think that you know all the possible reasons why King Sihanouk conducts his politic that way!

You know only a fraction what King Sihanouk knew back then and this is the nature of any politic and it is full of conspiracy, hidden agenda, betrayal, and foreign powers intervention to change the course of Cambodian politic! If you want to put all the blame on King Sihanouk then you are so wrong!

King Sihanouk had been keeping the score on the battle field between the communist and the non-communist for years! The communists were winning on the battle field and love by the mass Cambodian population who are just emerging from the brutality of colonialism! The trend of the day was that the mass Cambodian population didn't like colonialism and the alternative was the communism because the communism was a new ideology and mass Cambodian population never knew much about communism and communism claimed to make people equal and beside the communist block was so good at propaganda and they show how advance they are in the field of science and politic! Remember! It is the Russian communist who was the first to put their satellite called Sputnik in space!

It is so easy to speak after what have happen to Cambodia! But don't just speak but speak with your mind!

Anonymous said...

"Elephant in the room" is metaphorical idiom for an obvious truth that is being ignored or goes unaddressed. It also applies to an obvious problem or risk no one wants to discuss.

ECCC ignored Yuon V/C and the collaborateur Sihanouk,Hun Sen,Heng Sarin,Hor 5 Hong, Keat Chhon crimes against people too.

Anonymous said...

please put hoon sen' face on the clown picture.

Anonymous said...

students learn by researching into the past, etc... isn't that's how we all learn about history, although we weren't there to witness the past history, but we can research in order to learn about it, same concept here. you don't have to be born before sihanouk or whatever to know or understand better than sihanouk, ok! now we can see your thinking way, so illogical and kind of not smart, not clever and not wise! please stop sound so ignorant, people can learn from doing research, ok! age with nothing about who we can become. there are young doctors, young lawyers,etc... can did they become doctors and lawyers, by study and research and graduation from school, ok! so stop give me that age thing, ok!

Anonymous said...

you understand progress, cambodia is progressing, ok!

Anonymous said...

One upone atime a Dickhead Prince find out that the Communist was not that so difference from him and more effective in killing people who waked up from his oppression!

So he used the hand of the Communist to do so and Claimed he was dumb and stupid to know any thing! And But the Stupid Prince is real stupid he deos not know how to clean himself till now!!!!! He act dumb and stupid now because he does not know how to work for a living like every body else!

So he sell his conscien, his country, his dignity for himself and his 7 generation relative living to China Communist, Vietnamese Comunist, and ah Young Youn Ah Kwack Hun XEN!!!! GET 3 ways fuckup, Eh?????


Ah Chkourt 3!!!!

Anonymous said...

students learn by researching into the past, etc... isn't that's how we all learn about history, although we weren't there to witness the past history, but we can research in order to learn about it, same concept here. you don't have to be born before sihanouk or whatever to know or understand better than sihanouk, ok! now we can see your thinking way, so illogical and kind of not smart, not clever and not wise! please stop sound so ignorant, people can learn from doing research, ok! age with nothing about who we can become. there are young doctors, young lawyers,etc... can did they become doctors and lawyers, by study and research and graduation from school, ok! so stop give me that age thing, ok!

12:32 AM

Anonymous said...

12:011 I happen to see the same some of your way! and I do some speak with my mind not just repeat and believe there only one way to do thing and afraid to say what other do stupid thing IS stupid!!!

Anonymous said...

To 12:32AM

You just bullshit yourself! Do you really think that historian can record every fucken detail about what happens and what is going to happen in Cambodia in a way that show the true intention of any Cambodian leaders? So tell me who are these historians that wrote about Cambodian history? Are they foreign born or native born Cambodian writer of Cambodian history? History is written by winner and by loser!

You don't have to look far and by taking a close look at AH HUN SEN regime! AH HUN SEN did his best to rewrite Cambodian history in favor of Vietnam by giving up vast land and sea boundary to Vietnam and by honoring January 7, 1979 the day of Vietnam occupation of Cambodia as the day of liberation of Cambodia! Now Cambodian people see Vietnam as their savior not as their historical enemy! Remember Vietnam still oppress million and million Khmer people!

What you read in history book is just a snap shot of event that happened in the past is and not the same if you been in the country and experience and live through event unfolding before your very eyes! The different between you and me is that I lived through the event and see what is becoming of Cambodia!

Anonymous said...

From 1:18AM

Correction!

History is written by winner and not by loser!

Anonymous said...

All of Khieu Samphan, Nuon Chea and Ieng Sary have proved is they are idiot and why they followed Pol Pot.
Instead of deny that they did not kill or say that they were forced by Pol Pot to kill and they did it because they could be killed by Pol Pot, they invoque what and how Vietnameses wanted and did, and those things don't help them to be acquited at all.
Poor dumb Khmer rouges.

Anonymous said...

There is no sign of intelligence at all, none whatsoever, here on KI-Media (period.)!

P. fron Long Beach

Anonymous said...

To 1:59AM

"There is no sign of intelligence at all?" What are you smoking? Are you on the moon?

Here let me help you define what intelligence is! Intelligence is the ability to find food! Now when my turkey is done and I know where to find it! Thinking about it makes my mouth water and hungry already! Hurry up turkey!

Anonymous said...

P. fron Long Beach stands for Poop from Long Beach.

Anonymous said...

Thank you to KI in bring us news and allow us to express our opinion!

Thang you to all KI comenters your small idear can build and share the knowledges and excercise our brain!!!! And idea that read and cutch by one reader cand travel to 100 mind if not 1000,000,
Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

Anonymous said...

Thank you to KI in bringing us news and allow us to express our opinion!

Thang you to all KI commenters your small idea can build and share the knowledge and excercise our brain!!!! And idea that read and catch by one reader can travel to 100 minds if not 1000,000!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

Anonymous said...

Let me tell you all something - There is no sign of intelligence at all here on KI-Media, none whatsoever!

P. from Long Beach

Anonymous said...

Agreed 6:00 am,

I let Khmer screw me; all Khmer screw Viet; they love Viet's food, they love Viet's ass...whether or not they surrender themselves to Viet, Khmer is now Viet (period.)
Hun Sen is a dumb Khmer/Viet!

Any more question, you dumb Khmer?
Kiss my ass...


Ms. Soap

Anonymous said...

7:23! no luck man!

Anonymous said...

6;00 back too school, kid!

Anonymous said...

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សាខាបក្សប្រជាជនកុម្មុយនិស្តកម្ពុជាមានមូលដ្ឋានតាំងនៅ ៖
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Anonymous said...

Vietnam's bad intention toward Cambodia will be unmasked by the international communities.

We need to take this land thief, Vietnam, to the international court; otherwise Vietnam will keep creating turmoil in Cambodia.

After 1989, did Vietnam truly withdraw all of its troops back to Vietnam?

Did Vietnam comply with the 1991 Paris peace accord?

Millions of illegal and legal Vietnamese have been residing inside Cambodia, causing extreme concerns amongst Khmer people about the prospect that Cambodia would be the second Kampuchea Krom.

The killings during the Pol Pot's era were committed by the Khmer rouge, the Khmer Vietminh, etc.
Notice that Khmer Vietminh were created by Vietnam to make Khmers fight with Khmers, to make Khmers kill each others.

How about the K5, which killed hundreds of thousands of Khmer people in the 80's? This K5 scheme was totally orchestrated by Vietnam.

We need to take Vietnam to the international court about this K5 issue regarding Vietnam’s catastrophic action in Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

The written Khmer history was not
really true.But the words came out
from the regular people mouths were true.
Some old generation people were bad
and others were good.Learned from
the past,we are discussing in the present.
Khmer people should not just learn
Khmer history,but history of Thai
,of Vietnam,and of Lao.Then do the research.
Time has been from to time,young
generations are learning from the
old generations.Each generation
learned from each other.
This generation learns so quick
because it has computers and new
things to operate.
New generation can be bad too.
Watch your steps,the following
generation will criticize you also.
It takes turn.
The old generation did not want
this generation to make a fault
step.
What happened in the past
,happening in the present in Cambodia;be careful in the future.

Anonymous said...

Judging Khmer rouge without judging yuon hanoi is just a CRIME because youn hanoi are mastermind of Khmer rouge and the killing field. Yuon hanoi are the real murderers. Letting yuon hanoi get out of the crimes committed against Khmer is another crime against humanity and the DENY of justice for the victims of yuons’s atrocity and crimes. Internal community must STOP TO BE ACCOMPLICE of hanoi crimes by deny yuon Hanoi crimes and atrocities against Khmer and other weak and innocent people in SEA.

Sihanouk who worked along with hanoi and allowed vietcong to maneuver the killing field against Khmer must be the first to stand trial and judge for the killing of millions of innocent during the killing field. Sihanouk and yuon Hanoi are the MURDERERS of Khmer people.