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“Angkor Wat is ours; there is such thing as copy right.”
by School
of Vice
When I
initially came across the news that the construction of a replica of Angkor Wat
in the Indian state of Bihar is underway, I hadn’t given it much thought until,
that is, someone wrote something about how India had snubbed Cambodia’s request
for help in upgrading some outdated jet fighters, and then there’s the mention
of the issue of copyright. . .
Angkor
Wat is of course the national symbol and emblem of the Cambodian nation, with
all that implies in respect of that nation’s living history, culture, and
civilisation, past and present achievements as well as her sense of national
pride and uniqueness that underpins her identity as a people and her ‘sovereignty’
as a state. All this may be of incalculable asset and value to a people still
perching precariously on the precipice of national oblivion - given enough
time!
Irrespective
of India’s perceived historical role as ‘cultural midwife’ to the emergence of
the Angkorian civilisation, it can be argued that Angkor Wat is too unique and
potent a symbol for the Khmer people for it to be replicated and reproduced on
any comparable scale and dimension[standing at 222 feet - 68 metres - or five
stories when completed in ten years. It will be just slightly smaller than the
Khmer complex], and most disconcerting of all, outside Cambodia and far beyond
her shores, and where once completed, will have left Cambodia’s posterity and
the rest of thinking humanity wondering as to why such an act of cultural counterfeit
on an unprecedented gigantic scale had not encountered any resistance from the
nation’s elite and policy-makers who otherwise claim to be in charge of their
country’s affairs and destiny? Would other nations or states - India included -
be so keen as to have one of their national cultural symbols [say the Taj
Mahal] be copied and reproduced as though this were cheap, but
marketable commodities by other countries?
The
other underlying issue is of course [like the Preah Vihear question] is
the economic and commercial dimension of such reproduction. It is not at all
unusual for countries to recreate “model villages” of “Little Paris” or “Little
Italy” etc. out of genuine admiration for things ‘foreign’ or eye-catching; or
seeing in such recreations a model of excellence and outstanding feats or
benchmarks to be reached and aspired towards. So it was in this latter spirit
that one of Siam’s Kings [Rama] built a small replica of Angkor Wat within the
compound of the Royal Palace in Bangkok as homage to human greatness and
ingenuity for his own subjects to live up to. In our age of science and ‘post-modernity’,
we witness countless sky-scrapers and architectural high-rises of breath-taking
sizes and proportions being erected round the globe; each project’s claim to
being the “Tallest building in the world” would as of inevitability be
superseded by the emergence of yet taller, more ambitious one in quick
succession. The Angkorian kings had undoubtedly been driven by similar impulse
to outdo their predecessors by erecting grander and more massive city-building
projects and, perhaps, also by the spiritual quest to entomb their earthly immortality
through these legacies of work and sacrifice as their ultimate answer to the human
soul’s yearning for union with the Devine. But it is not just the ancient
builders who experienced this spiritual need and embarked upon their pilgrimage
towards or in search of humanity’s Promised Land by staying in tune with the
soul’s rhythms and agitations in this way, but that this spiritual quest is
also very much present in many a traveller and backpacker the world over who
ever set out to pay homage to these religious sites and relics, from Egypt’s
Great Pyramids and the Inca ruins in Latin America to the Great Walls of China
and the famed royal cities of Angkor complex in Cambodia itself.
The
question is: will this prospective replica be enough of a substitute - in
economic and commercial sense - for the original model it will have replicated?
Will it dissuade potential visitors from making that [at least] once in a life
time pilgrimage to Siem Reap because the replica will be less than half the
distance to Cambodia from home? And according to the travel brochure, you are
certain to rediscover “The real Angkor Wat temple in its envisaged, imagined
pristine state, un-ravaged by the elements and almost half as old as time”?
Will Cambodia stand to maximise from this dispersed physical presence of its
national heritage, or will she live to regret her misguided generosity as her
quota of international tourist traffic will have been progressively cut down in
size and revenue?
On the
other hand, what moral, religious claim does India have to this most ‘quintessential’
of Khmer heritage? To say that Cambodia is “Indianised” is about as meaningful
as suggesting that Japan is “Europeanised” or that the French are “Americanised”.
The Khmer rulers ‘had made sure’ that all Khmer monuments were stamped with
something so tangibly and aesthetically “Khmer” or a form of “Khmerness” as to
render redundant the reference “Hindu” as an adjective and a prefix. Nay,
these rulers and architects were not at all conscious of such fine distinction
between what constituted ‘foreign’ and what was considered indigenous or Khmer.
Rather the ‘Khmerness’ of which one speaks had always been part and parcel of
their very consciousness or sub-consciousness so that the creation could not
have failed to mirror or embody the instinctive drive or impulse of the
creators themselves. Thus, to uncultured eyes and casual visitors to Angkor,
the scantily clad Apsaras and nymphs carved to adorn the walls of most Khmer
temples may speak of moral decadence; certainly it is visually striking, seductive
and ‘sensuous’ in its own right as still being conveyed by the delicately
subtle Khmer classical dance movement itself. Yet, there is nothing in the arts
or the numerous stone representations to suggest that the ancient Khmers had
allowed themselves the indulgence of being let loose or ensnared to excess by
the tentacles of bodily vice and in the kind of outward “eroticism” or
sensual license and freedom that in India itself can be said to have acquired
art form and spawn many a scriptural best-seller like the famed “Kama Sutra”.
Erotica in Indian art |
Except,
of course that one singular statue of a goddess on display at the National
Museum in Phnom Penh which so captivated School of Vice that he had
stood breathless and transfixed until being asked to vacate the museum at the end -of –business day’s opening hours. . .
But,
seriously . . . one other pertinent question is: how had the deal been reached
between the Hindu Trust and its relevant contacts in Cambodia? If the Cambodian
officials had opted to overlook the project’s wider implications as mentioned
above in favour of short-term private gains by means of granting it their
approval, do our Indian friends not have enough already with having their hands
in defacing most of the bas relief work at Angkor Wat that they now must have a
hand in adding more insult to injury as well by doing this replica? And no, the
spurious differentiation between the “replica” and “Angkor Wat” as two separate
entities is immaterial in this case, because the distinction made - a
metaphysical and technical detail or opinion – does nothing towards
compensating the overall adverse impact and consequences of allowing the
foremost heritage and symbol of a nation to be repackaged and marketed in this
way. And that is exactly what the Hindu Trust [with tacit connivance of the central
Indian government, and perhaps, assisted by its covert financial assistance too?]
is brewing up [The Second Churning of the Sea of Milk, and dollars...?] with
this replica business. Once completed, the state of Bihar will likely be
experiencing the kind of economic boom effect that had transformed the once sleepy
town of Siem Reap overnight, and is still carrying the potential to do the same
for the rest of Cambodia’s economy and development. If only, that is, Cambodian
decision-makers have the courage and vision to be and act like those Angkorian Builder-Kings§
98 comments:
how could anyone allow india to do this without cambodia's permission. there are copy right law in cambodia, you know. india will have to pay for copying angkor wat. copy right law means they will have to pay cambodia for using our national symbol like this.
Any replica of any temples of Cambodia, such as Angkor Wat etc...by any country must be strongly objected by Cambodia and all Cambodian political parties through all international bodies, such as the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, UNESCO etc...
Hun Sèn's regime leased it to fellow Viet by the name of Sok Cong/Kong(?) for like 99 years? What's in the contract, does anybody knows?
Could Angkor Wat deal here be really a jynx for Khmer race?
Can this be another distraction from the real issue of the Vietnamization of Cambodia and the Federation of Indochina?
Cambodia is no longer control by Khmer leader Hun Sen is Vietnamese citizen, so every countries can copy, duplicate and reproduce anything from Cambodia for a good reasons that Cambodian symbolic is existed in other countries when Cambodia is disappearing from the Cambodia map in 50 years from now by the Vietnamese expansion.
The real agenda is that most Khmer people never pioneer their own cultural heritage from the past or theorized the meaning of Angkor Wat. Why rebuild a replica in INDIA? To bring home the glory to India? Read the Mahabharata and why the Khmer King's adore the Kurukshetra war. Who really are the Khmer ancestor that hold dear to the very end the real secret of Khmer's past. Yet we never know who are the real Khmer of Angkor? Answer me if anyone who is scholar enough?
From: Prahamaebaitsait..Or Slaying Demon Leaders
I am in the lost state for this issue.Of course we receive influences from India but we have great mind of our own.We had Prasat Neang Khmao but never called it Kali Prasat.When India is willing to call Virat Angkor as such, I felt flattered!
Now they said they build it to house gods and goddesses with no mention of economic side of tourist involve. Not too many Indians came to visit Angkor and when Virat Angkor finish we would rest assured that none of Indian will come to visit real Angkor. How many world tourists will be diverted to Virat Angkor instead of coming straight to original Angkor? Will Thai built Prah Viharn in Sisaket?
I would say let Indian built it but they should recommend tourists to come to visit Khmer Angkor Temple as well.Will ICJ tell Khmer and Thai to share 4.6 sqkm,since we are a nice guy?I don't know why I mix the subjects,you can see how lost I am.
Have anyone ever wonder if Khmer emperor ever gotten Indian architectural right to build Angkor Wat centuries ago??? It is clearly Indian influence & likely to be designed and supervised project of architects at that time anyway. Khmer people should feel priviledge that their one and only meaningful ancestrial legacy, which was a derivative of Indian culture, is being replicated by India (because they know it is their idea to begin with) before being collapsed and ruined all together (read about the condition of Angkor Wat)
Copied or replicated Angkor Wat or other temples in Cambodia has never been restricted or needed permission from any CPP's departments. I am very happy that India is interested to build a replica of Angkor Wat temple is to attracting more tourists from India who wanted to see the real Angkor Wat in Cambodia. I wishes more countries will follow India. India will build a smaller scale not full size of Angkor Wat that cost at least $1 billion US dollar.
Prahamaebaitsait,I do not understand your question!!
First fine tune your Sanskrit
knowledge and spelling: Kurushetra war !? Are you sure?!!!!
We Khmer know how to spell Guru and used to be one too!!
How did they get the Angkor wat blueprint? Is it from the people work there?
I think to build it this big, they at least ask Cambodia for permission. This is something Cambodia can think about and decide what we want to do with that.
For the epic of Mahabharata of India who is Takshaka? Who is Janamejaya? Does these names or story sound familiar? Yet I guess none of you did any research like the rest of the slackers I meet who claims to be a real Khmer and yet don't know the history. A waste of time trying to circulate intelligence among these crowds. Later....
From: Prahamaebaitsait.
Check this link out KHMER COINS?
http://www.pandaamerica.com/NEWS_2004-5_Cambodia_Egypt_Coins_9_22_04.ASP
By the way...7:16AM--Sanskrit is a LANGUAGE NOT A WRITTEN TEXT...What now? I key my passage on my computer in ENGLISH on this blog. When you tell me to refine my Sanskrit that is the part that tells me your not that literate. What I ask about is the Mahabharta a written text during Ancient India. Look at Angkor Wat it tells allot about INDIA'S Mahabharta.
No wonder CPP and Viet make fun of SAM RANISY SUPPORTERS. I am not a CPP or Sam Ranisy support, but a neutral spectator of politics. Yet, I dislike CPP actions against the Khmer people right for democracy. More over I would to see more Sam Rainsy supporter or people who post comment here be more intelligent and literate.
Yet don't let this blog be a proof that Sam Rainsy Supports are uneducated. And the people who view the contents are easy manipulated.
From: Prahamaebaetsait
Wow! you are very smart 8:15 AM!
8:15 AM
There is a Cambodian saying that fits your talk:
Kaok heuy cham ang el kroy.
I pound you on the head and when you are hurt, I rub the hurt spot for you.
Is that your intention?
You said: “Sanskrit is a LANGUAGE NOT A WRITTEN TEXT.”
Check the link below Mr. Fake Expert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit#Writing_system
Read more Vietnamese in Cambodia and Hun Sen's violent forced evictions.
cambodia3000.blogspot.com
WRONG WRONG WRONG!!
What India is doing is commercializing our culture, exploiting our greatest achievement. How would India feel if Taj Mahal was copyrighted and to be build in Mexico??
Dumb Khmer please do not accept this deal, this issue should have been raised to the public before the decision was made under the Uneducated Vietminh. This should have been a controversial issues and been raised or question during the parliamentary debate.
I wonder if AH Kwak understand anything about national heritage. First he lease out our Ankor Wat to Ah Sok Kong for 99 years, now he allows the India to copy our Ankor Wat?
AH FUCKING HUN SEN Stop selling and exploiting our Khmer culture.
8:48 AM
So what did Sanskrit talks about? A language is like ENGLISH used to COMMUNICATE----a written text is a historical document or written document pertaining expression or opinion about a subject. SO WHICH is WHICH? SO SANSKRIT IS NOT A WRITTEN TEXT. SANSKRIT IS A LANGUAGE USED TO COMMUNICATE AND DOCUMENT INFORMATION AT A CERTAIN TIME IN HISTORY...
HAVE YOU ATTEND SCHOOL? WHAT UNIVERSITY? CAUSE IF YOU ARE LITERATE THEN WRITTEN TEXT IS REFERRING TO DOCUMENTED MATERIALS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_text
FROM: PRAHAMAEBAESAIT
Know what they know the ones they
did not know they should learn to
know.
Even people have had learned since
in their mom wombs until 125 years
old,they were dumb.
So,keep learning as much as they
could.
Some people knew something,but
the other ones didn't.
People learned from the past,adapt
in the present,and will discover
somethings in the future.
Can Indian engineers build Angkor
Wat in its country?
Yes or no,it is up to the Khmer
overseas and in Cambodia.
If they say NO,stand up and protest.
8:58 AM
"A language is like ENGLISH used to COMMUNICATE----a written text is a historical document."
So what am I writing now, in Hindi?
We probably don’t talk the same language that is we don’t understand each other. EOM
9:18 AM
Yes or no,it is up to the Khmer
overseas and in Cambodia.
If they say NO,stand up and protest.
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Khmer overseas are seen as traitor because AH Hun Sen and CPP suggested so. Khmer in Cambodia are dumb, because they believe everything AH Hun Sen says.
When Ankor Wat was being leased out to the Vietnamese AH SOk Kong did anyone say no?? Even if they did say no, was there AK47 at the protesting scene?
Btw, keep voting for CPP DUMB KHMER!
What Mr. PRAHAMAEBAESAIT means to say is:
The first draft of the US constitution over two hundred years ago was not written in English, but it was written in American.
I have mentioned so many times in this KI, exhorting to Ah Kwack to stop leasing Khmer's soul, Angkor Wat, to his master Ah Kantorb.
By leasing Angkor wat alone to Yuon Sok Kong, Ah Kwack should already have gotten the death penalty.
But because of Ah Kwack has made so many giant mistakes such as implementing the bilateral treaties with Vietnam, defying the 1991 Paris peace accord, allowing Vietnam to encroach land and maritime border, condoning the mass influx of the Vietnamese into Cambodia, massive land concession to Vietnam, etc...the issue of leasing Angkor Wat to Vietnamese Sok Kong became a secondary issue.
Concerning India replicates Angkor wat, the puppet government of Ah Kwack should have vehemently protested against this project from commencing. We do not hate India or anything, but Angkor Wat is Khmer's soul. Nobody should take anybody's soul away.
Can Khmer people do anything to prevent this Angkor replica from materializing?
What a painful era for Khmer people: Vietnam takes Khmer land while India replicates Khmer soul -Angkor Wat.
Asking for a Scholar but you can not use English to transliterate the Sanskrit word properly,how arrogant is that Mr.Brahmaphasit?!
9:31 AM
Hahaha…good one.
India has been a school of 'PROBABLE INSPIRATION'for Khmers ,now sticks to the label 'School of Vice',replicates Khmer Angkor Wat for business convenience. As a khmer, I suggest that India replicates all of Khmer temples within the same period, 10 years, and have their Hanuman transport the whole Khmer land into India to make things really indian.
stop using excuse like cambodia owed something to india or something. of course, we already acknowledge that the spread of india religion to cambodia and we credit india for that already, so that's not the issue. the issue is india violate cambodia's copy right law that prohibits others to replican or sell or copy or loot or steal or rob or whatever you want to call it from cambodia. where is unesco and all that in this saying? it is unlawful for india to replican cambodia's famous iconic temple without cambodia(khmer people's) permission, period. we are talking legality here, not whether cambodia owed religion or whatever to india two thousand years ago, ok. please, respect cambodia's national iconic. in fact, we, khmer people, would prefer india people come visit angkor wat iin cambodia, instead of building a replica of it in india. we welcome india people to come visit and worship their belief at angkor wat temple in cambodia. and we are against india copying our national icon to put it in india. thank you, india.
please don't get us wrong. cambodia likes india too and india is our friends, but we are asking india to respect our copy right law, not to replicate or copy our national icon to put it in india. it's not a question india past influence on cambodia religious belief, it's a question legality and doing the right thing, that's all. thank you.
The Indian engineers want to build
Angkor Wat as same as Angkor Wat
in Cambodia.Can they want to?
Please,don't give comments out of
title or subject.
The below of Goddess wrote,"Angkor Wat is ours;there is such thing as copy right".
Can Indian engineers build as same
as Angkor Wat?
Yes or No?
If Khmer people say NO,what can they do?
It is up to the bloggers say what
they want to say.It is their rights.
My rights is saying NO.
The Indian engineers can not
build Angkor Wat in its country.
I have the rights to say so.
Before you asked for a scholar,make sure you know how to spell guru!!So important is the guru that every year a
holiday, Gurupurnima, is celebrated. It takes place
on the full Moon in the lunar month of Ashadha
(June–July). It was dedicated originally to the sage
VYASA, who compiled the VEDAS and the MAHABHARATA,
but it is observed by worship or honoring
of one’s teachers and gurus.
It is time to make millions of bombs to destroy Hanoi and Yuon/Vietnamese bastards and bitches. Vietnamese leaders and followers of Yuon/Vietnamese masters are in a very danger when Khmer people could not stand anymore. Khmer people will take revenges to kill all Yuon/Vietnamese folks out of the planets because they [Yuon/Vietnamese] are very very very evil and hypocrite in the world. Khmer people will not be afraid of Yuon/Vietnamese anymore.
Khmer Magics will be on their way to destroy Yuon/Vietnamese in the return because Yuon/Vietnamese leaders and their followers had killed millions of Khmer people.
Keep dreaming, Yuon bastards and bitches!
Good luck, evil Yuon masters!
If we as Khmer people((including Laotians, Khmer Krom, Cham) are close to be all killed by Yuon/Vietmanese, then we all Khmer people (of all races, millions of us Khmer) will have the revolutions and riots (just like or more than Syrian people and Libyan people who are fed up) and will destroy Hun Sen, CPP Cronies, Yuon folks and invade evil Communist Yuon/Viet bastards and Vietnamese followers. Yes, we Khmer peopoe, will die to fight and destroy all evil Yuon/Vietnamese bastards. Maybe the U.S., EU or China will help us Khmer people who are dying to fight. So, Communist Yuon/Vietnamese Economy will be so weak and hypocrite Yuon/Vietnamese bastards and bitches will be used as Tea Pots just like they did in Khmer Khrom. Khmer people are so fed up and know that we, all Khmer people are going to die in the of Yuon's hands and CPP Cronies, Hun Sen. Khmer people will do that for our Khmer children.
Yes, it will be a timing to come. Yes, we have the rights to fight for our Khmer freedoms and peace for the world.
11:45 AM..
Err...how will you kill the Youn? Dont you know killing Youn or Khmer Krom or anyone can lead to life in imprisonment??
Dont you think talking about killing YOUN THIS YOUN That is old style?? Live in the 21st century, not the 70s.
Instead of trying to kill millions of YOUN by yourself riding your cow around Phnom Penh, why dont you try to kill the uneducated leader. You only need a silver bullet to save Khmer. No need to kill millions of Youn.
Deal? Ohh I forgot, you DUMB Khmer are only good at yelling and barking. But tell your families to keep voting for Hun Sen!
12:38 PM
When you barked "DUMB Khmer", who the hell are you? Ah Kantorb?
Ah Kantorb is smart at committing evil acts.
Have your Kantorb race ever invented anything to serve the world beside applying the guerilla war like a coward?
There is nothing impressive what the Indian are about to do in replicating the structure of Angkor Wat on their land! The advancement of modern technology can build almost anything but why the Indian choose to build something of the magnitude of Angkor wat? What is the point? There are million and millions of Indian people still live in slum and poverty and the resources are well spent to help those needy Indian people instead! I never thought that the Indian government can be so selfish toward their own needy people!
Just remember this! The Cambodian (Khmer) built Angkor Wat without modern technology and this is what makes it so inspiring and the ingenuity of human creativity!
1:05 PM. Are KHMER DUMB or smart?
If they are smart why do they keep voting for CPP? If they are DUMB why are they still lazy?
Which do you pick DUMB or LAZY? No, I am not YOUN. HAHAHA.
But tell your families to keep voting for CPP!!
12:38 PM,
This blogger is so dumb, don't know what he talking about? He is Plee Pleu.
1:29 PM is crazy like uneducated CPP military police and stupid Khmer bodyguards to kill his own Khmer people. That is whay 1:29 PM is a so dumb Yuon pretending to be Khmer to fight against Khmer! 1:29 PM is the most stupid Yuon person in Cambodia. He has no place until he was hired by CPP to hurt Khmer people for a living. He is worse than animal and blind.
Why are you DUMB LAZY Khmer are so egoistic. I told you, I am Khmer not Y-O-U-N. If you are so proud of being a Khmer or have an ounce of intelligent, then read between the line. What do I need to do to teach you DUMB Khmer in not a CPP supporter or youn?
Hey 12:38 PM, we want to kick your ass, too. You are a stupid person who has a very bad mouth and you are always in love with Yuon who killed your family and children to take Khmer land.
This 1:44 PM always bark like blah blah blah. 1:44 PM always claims that I am not Yuon, but he is Yuon himself, talking too much and being poisonous like Yuon snake!
1:44 PM said, "Why are you DUMB LAZY Khmer are so egoistic. I told you, I am Khmer not Y-O-U-N. If you are so proud of being a Khmer or have an ounce of intelligent, then read between the line. What do I need to do to teach you DUMB Khmer in not a CPP supporter or youn?"
This 1:44 PM sound like OK!, You Know!, Really!....
I'm going to enjoy this. DUMB Khmer, all I'm saying is only one traitor needs to die to save Khmer. Not millions. Nah, you are a DUMB Khmer, what do you know.
The CPP government is after money so it will provide any concession to any request of anyone or any country, in this case India, to build a replica of Angkor Wat in India as long as the CPP can lay its hand on money.
There won't be many tourists going there to see it anyway. For one reason, it will probably cost more to go to India to see it and the most important reason is that many people would not want to go and see a new building built with modern technology anyway, especially when they can see the real Angkor Wat and the Khmers she represents in Siem Reap.
We cannot stop the madness and stupidity of the CPP government, but our Angkor Wat, which survived years of wars, neglect and isolation, will compete with, win easily and put a death blow to the new whatever (I refuse to call it Angkor Wat because it is not; you may look like Sok, but you are not Sok) they build in India.
Angkor Wat can never be replicated because it was built with the spirit and culture of the Khmers which the Indians don't have!
Pissed off
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Hey....., if you build Angkor Wat there, who's gonna visit your Taj Mahal? Are you really want to do this, bring us to beat you at home?....
1:58 PM,
Can you call yourself "DUMB," too, because someone called you DUMB by your lovely Yuon. You remind us OK!, YOU KNOW!, REALLY!, ETC!...
If you called DUMB KHMER, that mean you are YUON and pretend to be Khmer to fight with Khmer to benefit your evil Yuon folks.
Miss OK! REALLY! Got mental issues and takes medication. I think she is also youn.
But I have already told you DUMB Khmer I am not youn nor am I her. Have you DUMB Khmer learnt any new syllables? So Mark is a Youn. Theary Seng is a Youn. What next? Indian are also YOUN? You DUMB Khmer needs to study abit more if you want our country to change. Okay DUMB Khmer?
How big your stinky virgina, ugly bitch 4:47 PM?
A copy is a copy. So if they copy our Angkor Wat is the same as some one copy an Ipot or Iphone, will the Iphoe company allow them to do it or not?? Why don't we do the same, Cambodia should sue them for copy right.
Hey 4:47 PM, Dumb Yuon Killer, be nice. Otherwise, the rocket is coming to your head! And don't forget to open your stinky Virgina to let the rocket come in. OK, 4:47 PM, Dumb Yuon!
5 49
As big as your mum? Got any other question DUMB Khmer? Your mum did a good job raising dogs.
DUMB Khmer either grows up calling people YOUN or grow up being DOGS. Which one are you DUMB Khmer 5 49?
Beware of the danger if you want to step in, it’s at your own risk.
This is an very unstable and angry hornets’ nest.
5:59 PM, Dumb Communist Yuon, open your stinky virgina and please let us know when you are ready for the rocket to come in your hole.
SRP supporters are going to send more rockets to your stinky asshole and stinky Virgina.
SRP will throw more targets in to your Yuon boobs, too. You are the evil Yuon who called DUMB Khmer.
No DUMB Khmer have ever won an arguments against me, cause you DUMB Khmer only know one word, "Youn" at least you think you know what it means anyway.
Maybe one day you can teach others why Mark(westerner) is a Youn or maybe why Theary Seng(Khmer) is also a Youn.
Are you DUMB Khmer good at anything else? CPP leasing Ankor Wat for 99 years to Youn, now CPP doesn't care if other countries are copying our heritage. What are you DUMB Khmer going to do, yell out YOUN again? Oh yea your mum did a good good raising cowards.
LOL @ 6:13 PM,
How stupid this person "6:13 PM" is? Where do you learn the words "DUMB KHMER"?
This 6:13 PM is always letting Khmer people down when they are stuck? You blame and point finger at poor Khmer people who are helpless instead of help and educate them. Just bark and call hopeless and poor Khmer people DUMB KHMER. That is how your teach the Neighbors (Thai and Viet) to look down on Khmer people. Can you seen that, Yuon bitch? If you keep call DUMB KHMER, then you are a Yuon bitch.
Again, you are so mean to call poor Khmer people bad. You are very mean and the pain in the ass.
Did your mom and dad call you dumb?
How much longer do you call Khmer people DUMB, huh? We are here to protect unfortunate and disadvantaged Khmer people. We never let Khmer people down like you, asshole/bitch.
6:13 PM needs to be slapped in the face.
6:13 PM is very suspicious!
All Cambodian please allow India to build a replica of Angkor Wat temple it cost us nothing. Today Vietnamese tycoon Sok Kong owned Angkor Wat and charge tourists $20 per day of visit those money goes to his pocket and Cambodian got nothing for 30 years. Today Cambodian in Cambodia has no power and no freedom of express we just have follow and listen to Hun Sen's regime. Cambodian owned nothing in Cambodia under Hun Sen's regime.
Hey Prahamaebaitsait @7:35AM,
Your lack of wisdom is quite disturbing. If you think you're intelligent, why don't you build something of your own rather than trying to imitate or copy other people'work without asking permission.
Obviously, you have not learnt anything about intellectual property right at school, have you? What a mediocre mind you are!
Thank Pissed off,
Good comment and answered the right
questions.
The arts and sculptures Khmer
talents were/are different.
The twin girls or boys are born
the same mothers or fathers,they still look different.
Thank few other bloggers a million.
As Khmers we should be happy,
Angkorwat will be more known,
Indians do it because they admire our Angkorwat,
don't worry, if tourists want to see Angkorwat, they would not go to see the fake one, they will come in Siamriap..
I think Mi Kantorb named Ms Soap or Ms Shit is spreaded her cheap words again in KI.
Actually, Ms Soap used to be a man.
The indians are very cheap people.
i wish some people stop bring the youn/viet politics, the dog or name calling politics or the opposition or srp party politics here. if you are in politics or a leader(s), you shouldn't go around spreading or lobbying or bias, discrimination, etc based on national origin, religion, sexual orientation, personal background, past or present status, etc, etc, ok! because that shows that you are unfit as leader or incompetent, evil, selfish, greedy, unethical, unprofessional, caveman, primitive, ignorant, etc, etc... leader(s) represent everybody and country, and should be an honor to do so, so, make your constituents proud of you, not seeing you as incompetent, unprofessional, conduct unbecoming, etc, etc, ok. that's the danger of putting or having that kind of person in politics or power to run or lead the country. but if you want to do that as a private citizens without any political affiliation, not a leader, etc, then it's fine to so do, but if you are competiting in election, held offices, etc, you shouldn't do these kind of thing, because it is a sign you are not playing by the rule, thus, you could be disqualifying from running for office, etc... so if you heading for office, make sure you don't involve yourself in unethical behavior, unlawful behavior, incompetent behavior, etc... otherwise, it is questionable of your ability to unite, to work well with other, to represent other, etc... so, those of you who like politics and want or dream about entering in politics for some kind of leadership position, etc, avoid the unlawful act like bias, discrimination based of the personal trait above, those are hates and spelling trouble. those of you in involved in politics know who you are, so stop it and get better education already, ok. shame on you for being unprofessional if you are in the leadership position. cambodia don't need that type of incompetent, not smart individual like that, ok. if you like freedome and want freedom of expression etc..., then don't run for office, instead get another job or change your major or whatever, ok! be educated, really! stop hurting cambodia because there are more to cambodia than you and i, don't think you are alone in running the country, the reality is we need others to help us all run the country, it's called teamwork, you can't work alone and run the country alone, that's unlawful and next to impossible to do. so think wisely about it, stop sabotaging and hurting and destroying unity and cambodia, ok! like ms becker said, don't fight among ourself and killing your most precious people like the stupid KR, instead at time of crisis, unite and work together for the common cause or goal for the sake of cambodia as a nation, not being stupid like the primitive, lawless KR regime, ok! that's all!
it is ok to talk or debate about different issues, but be mindful of your job or your position, etc; be honorable, not cheap, and disrespectful, etc, ok.
11:33 PM
You should advocate C P PEE (your party) to protect Khmer's territorial integrity and stop allowing the mass influx of the Vietnamese into Cambodia.
You sound like Cheam Yiip or Cheam Yiip's disciple.
12:36am, you're not very smart, are you. stop barking up the wrong tree for a change, really. instead, work toward reform, unity, etc before you start doubting people. i read a book called "extreme fear" by jeff wise. in his book jeff gave a good, sound advice to deal with fears in general. what stuck in my mind the most about his advice is the part he mentioned to first look at ourself how we react to fear, is it reasonable, what could be see differently, what could be have done differently?, etc, etc... always questioning our own thoughts. it is wise to learn to see things from many different angles, instead of one strict angle... anyway, your fear of youn this or that, first take a hard look at how we are brought up and how worldly educated we really are. nationalistic is one thing, but to put the entire country in danger due to someone extreme fear is uncalled for, i think. be reasonable and learn to see things from a different angle or perspect. yes, learning is an everlasting part of life. anyway..., i'm not here to preach to anyone, just want people to learn to think for themself, that's all! and don't call me your friend, i prefer having no friend here, ok! if you can't respect that, that's something else.
To 6:57 PM
Not fast! How about I build a replica your head and use your head as astray or use your head as bathroom tissue holder! How about I build a replica of you and have the replica stand in front of my restaurant greeting my customers? You just open the door to a whole new world! Hey! It doesn’t cost you anything!
I have been warned not to step in. Anyway let me try my luck, but please don’t sting me gentlemen. I come here as a friend and have no intention of stirring up a hornets’ nest brrrrrr…
I think we all need to ask the French and the Japanese how they worked their problems out, because the Tokyo Tower is modeled after the Eiffel Tower and its design is based on that of Eiffel Tower in Paris.
Go to the link below for the pictures:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=292252
Peace
Ridiculous!!! Who would allow such an act to happen. Angkor Wat is Cambodian's!!! There is only one Angkor Wat and that is in Cambodia. Can u imagine what happen in 100 years when all of a sudden people know there are two Angkor Wat in the world??? Which one is the real one, who built it first? No i don't agree to let India build a replica of Angkor what!!! I don't.
Washington was the first president of the US.
Some two hundred thirty some years later, the world still remember him let alone a monument as big as Angkor Wat.
Angkor Wat is a world heritage. IT IS NOT FOR PRIVATE COMMERCIAL. Period.
For example, There is no such thing as Great Wall of Vietnam, The Colosseum of Singapore, and there shouldn't be a second Taj Mahal.
What dont the Indians understand? Angkor Wat is Angkor Wat, there can never be a replica of our Angkor Wat.
CPP are to stupid to understand what world heritage is, thats why they are leasing out Angkor Wat to the Vietnamese for 99 years..
If you Indians really care about us Khmer and our Angkor Wat, get rid of the Vietnamese, and take over the lease and the management or better yet, PUT A BULLET IN AH HUN SEN's Head to save Khmer from being extinct in our own country.
Indian knew Khmer will be extinct from earth in 50 years by the Vietnamese expansion and Angkor Wat will be destroy like other temples in Khmer Krom motherland.
Indian please build it now there are no laws or permission needed.
India’s [Hindu Trust’s] ‘replication’ of Angkor Wat: Will it help or hurt Khmer?
Hun Sèn's lickspittle Phay Siphan, in Phnom Penh (dpa) posted herein on KI-Media by Heng Soy, appeared to have suggested the negative reaction of the Viet controlled regime in Phnom Penh to India's nostalgic ideas of being part of Khmer empire back in Angkor era already.
However, as in anything to do with Khmer, whether it be Preah Vihear issue or the free flow of the Vietnamese population into Cambodia, or this very instance of replica of Angkor Wat by India, you and I and all Khmer and the world for that matter, already knows that it is in the hand of Hanoi.
Will Hanoi spare Khmer at this stage of the Vietnamization of Cambodia? Your guess is as good as mine!
Thank you.
Kalonh Chuck
P.s. Mr. School of Vice, would you be kind enough have Heng Soy's posting moved up to right below your article please? Thanks a million
All Cambodian and CPP did not built and owned Angkor Wat temple, why are we thinking negative image of Indian replica is not an original. It will never look exactly the same as original. Plus it is not your money and your land anyway. We must say thank very much to Indian if they allowed a CAMBODIAN TOWN close to the new Angkor Wat. Indian is trying to save Khmer heritage and Hindu temple is an Indian God to the next century when Cambodia is disappearing from the World Map by the Vietnamese expansion.
7:31 AM
Indian are trying to save Khmer? Dont be DUMB. LOLZ. Saving Khmer from who? Dont you know CPP built Angkor Wat, they are now leasing it to the Vietnamese. What are you going to do?
Re: Dont you know CPP built Angkor Wat
8:18 AM,
Do you really mean it when you said that CPP built Angkor Wat?
Re-read what you wrote before saying somebody is "DUMB", please?
Dear Lok Kalonh Chuck,
I've just seen your note, and the posting you mentioned. Unfortunately, I can only repost my own postings or comments. That prerogative lies with Mr Heng Soy since it was his posting. So hopefully he has read your note too.
Kindest,
Listen to the Khmer post radio and world Khmer radio every day at www.thekhmerpost.com and www.worldkhmerradioonline.com
Thank you.
Building a replica won't be a problem, but a bigger and taller replica..? WTF is that?........and it cost only 20 millions...? That's cheap India...? China help us built only a small Pyramid building and it's cost about 45 millions.....
By the way, how India come up with that idea? First of all, they should choose better place to build, near the Gange River??????????? that's sound so GangGGGGGGGGG. And secondly, we let only on God to stay, Vishnu. And now you let more Gods to stay....., that's crowded India.., Oh, I forget that's you have the largest Gods population in the world....
Mr. School of Vice @9:51 AM,
My profuse thanks for the prompt communcation, Sir! Could you please do me a favor - drop that "Lok", please?
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The wife will ask your guys "why your face is black and blue and purple?"
"Yeh, I just had a fight......in KI forum.
The wife will ask your guys "why your face is black and blue and purple?"
"Yeh, I just had a fight......in KI forum.
Baay Kdaing
Baay Kdaing @12:20 PM
She would have believed if you told her that you got stung by the angry hornets at KI forum and in a couple of days your hairs would turn white. Hehehe…
Never knew you're that funny, Baay Kdaing!
Bai Kork
Can the Viet controlled regime in Phnom Penh do anything positive for the good of Khmer race besides just getting irritated by India's 'replication' of Angkor Wat???
Bihar state should also include Sihanouk,Hun Sen,S-21 and Pol Pot images as well to embellish the Angkor repplica visibility.
Historically the people of Indochina were shared between two great civilizations : India and China.
While the greatness and influence of India, Hinduism and Buddhism have conquered the whole region of Asia.
The traces of the ancient influence of Indian civilization and Hinduism in history and culture of Cambodia remains numerous.
The first Khmer empire was strongly influenced by Indian culture and Hinduism. This is in Cambodia that Theravada Buddhism is firmly established and had become the religion of successive Khmer kings.
Pali, the sacred language of Theravada Buddhism was derived from Sanskrit the oldest writing of Hinduism.
It is also in honor of Hindu Gods like Shiva, Vishnu, Indra, as the temples such as Angkor Thom, Angkor Wat, Bayon, Banteay Srei, Baphuon, Preas Vihear, were built by successive Khmer kings.
This is from the 11th century that Indian influence began to decline in cambodia.
With the decline of Hinduism and Indian civilization in this region, the influence of Chinese civilization takes over the Indian civilization in Cambodia.
The acid attacks in the affairs of love jealousy in Cambodia is also a tradition coming from India.
In Cambodia, if you're white skin, you are descendants of Chinese, if you're black skin, you are the true descendants of the ancient khmer kings who were all servants of the divinities of Hinduism like Indra, Vishnu, Shiva ... according to a old saying khmer that says : "a khmao, chao preah in (nephews of Gods), a sor kdor chen".
Islam came after the decline of Hinduism.
Christianity came to this region later after other religions.
People of the West came late in Cambodia after the other.
The construction of Angkor Wat imitated by the Indians is a tribute to the centuries-old history of close relations between India and Cambodia .
The construction of Angkor Wat imitated by the Indians is a good thing or bad thing, only depending on the use that will make the Indians about that copy. This copy will may be make more popular and famous the original.
Because people are not all idiots, they can distinguish the original and the copy.
I am not a priori hostile to this imitation.
In gratitude to the Indians, I think I'll to translate and publish in Khmer the famous Indian book "Kamasustra" which means in Sanskrit (erudite language of ancient India): "the theory of supreme pleasure" which is a collection of erudite rules to allow couples run out of imagination to rediscover the full conjugal bliss.
I don't know about the copy right issue, but if I would like to think possitively it will goes like this :
I think this construction will advertise Angkor Watt to the rest of India. The real Angkor Watt will gain publicity in the region.
The poor will buy the Rolex watch made in China !!
The rich will buy the real Rolex watch. This kind of duplication that make Rolex beccome famous.
Just think about it !!!
It's not my favorite subject, but one has to ask:
1) where were Khmers coming from? Based on the world history, India used to have many kingdoms just like China used to have many kingdoms before those small kingdoms became One India and One China.
The history told the world that all the ancient Temples spreading in Southeast Asia such as in Champa, Indonesia, Cambodia, Thailand, etc., were built by Hindu (Hindu Civilization). If we said Khmers built its own, then where the Khmers got the arts from? Then trace back where they original came from.
Furthermore, India is a an old country even before China.
Remember Angkor Wat was built less than a thousand year, may be about 800 years or so?
Searching for who were Khmers and where did they coming from we have to search Khmer-Mon or Mon-Khmer not by hearsay but by DNA that scientists did their research.
They already knew that the Yue/Yuon/Yuan,Viets, Thais, and Laotians were Chinese (not HAN) except the Mon-Khmers.
As a matter of facts I have observed that the Indians are selfish ignorant the same as the Mon-Khmers.
To find out who are these people click on this link and study their origins.
Asian and non-Asian origins of Mon-Khmer- and Mundari-speaking
Go to this site and learn who were the Khmer-Mon instead of biting each others:
http://janecadhlanews.blog4ever.com/blog/lire-article-462157-8639870-asian_and_non_asian_origins_of_mon_khmer__and_mund.html
11:51 PM/11:57 PM,
I've read the whole thing but I still don't understand that family tree business.
So, call me dumb, call me stupid or call me whatever you like to call me personally, but please could you tell us what that link does really means in plain and simple English...in just a couple of sentences if it's all possible...
It's not without thanks, of course.
JoK (Just One Khmer)
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam condemns homosexuality.
Hinduism and Buddhism tolerate homosexuality. You see what I mean?
Indian cares about the $$$ They are no better then the foreigners destroying Cambodia by leasing our land for 99 years then destroying our forest, for mines, minerals, oil, then used our young women as slaves, maids, cheap labours and dogs.
If you Indians cares about our country, put AH CHKAE CPP and AH HUN SEN out of their misery. Then we will give you our Angkor Wat
11:50 PM said:
“ The poor will buy the Rolex watch made in China !!
The rich will buy the real Rolex watch. This kind of duplication that make Rolex become famous.
Just think about it!!! ”
Think about what?
If you were the original Rolex watch maker in Switzerland would you be happy about it, when you see your sale going down and you are losing money instead of making a profit?
But the original Rolex watch is patented, so it is protected by copyright and trademark.
Unfortunately there is no patent for Angkor Wat, but I believe it is protected by our trademark. So the Indian can copy it but they have to omit the word “Angkor Wat” from their building named ‘Virat Angkor Wat Ram Mandir.’
They can name it ‘Virat Shit Head Ram Mandir.’
@11:51 PM,
Are you try to say that we enslave Indian to build Angkor Wat? OR you are trying to say that we learn the technique from you to build it so it's technically belong to Indian. But what I see is that we learnt the architecture from you and we made better than you. Are trying to take all credit from that too....
1:36pm
I'm not scholars or scientist or historian to know where the hell everyone migrated from (tribes), so why did you put the world in my mouth that I was trying to say Khmers were Indian slaves etc. I read the scientist were trying to trace Khmer-Mon roots through DNA.
Khmer-Mon tribes were found in some place in India. A nation built by so many tribes.
Indians were known as the traders in ancient time. They may be Indians but from Khmer-Mon tribes.
The men who built Angkor Wat was named Suryavaraman II. Was not his name and other names of the ancient Khmer Kings were Indian names? Yes.
Hindu civilization scattering all over South East Asia, we cannot challenge with that.
And about replication of Angkor Wat, why everyone is so pissed off with this news. It's not new at all, because Thais also just built their Ankgor just like Khmers have and I am so surprised that many don't know about.
And furthermore China too has a giant Angkor Wat built by Indian civil Engineers and it is going to be Hotel for tourists very soon.
One Hollywood actor has his bedroom and swimming pool inside his mansion full of topless Apsara and he made it like in the real forest in Cambodia.
One former diplomat in the US has his house decorated with Bayon and Jayavaraman vii's head and most paintings painted by the Is it not something?
my post 3;25pm
One former diplomat in the US has his house decorated with Bayon and Jayavaraman vii's head and most paintings painted by the White artist. Is it not something?
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