Brief discussion paper
March 18, 2012
After being back yesterday from a business trip in Singapore, I am outraged to see few of Cambodians consider other Cambodians who denounce Vietnam’s growing influence and intrusion in Cambodia as “racist”.
What shocks me even more is that the use of the term “racism” comes from a few people who are supposed to have a certain level of intelligence which is high enough to help them fully appreciate the consequences of such a statement addressed to the Cambodian and foreign public.
I invite you all to review the definition of “racism” and the conditions under which it was used and is still used today. Being unable to further develop my views, due to the lack of time, on this topic, I just would like to raise one and only one question that could help us put our mind in order.
During my stay in Singapore, I met few of Australian, French and British diplomats. In talking with them about everything, I sympathized with them. And one of them told me the follwing fact:
“In all ministerial departments and at every level of the Cambodian government, Cambodians only have a role of facade. The political backstage is led with a strong grip by Vietnamese politicians, holding Cambodian citizenship and officially act as advisors but who have the real political and military power”.
The question I ask myself which surely and certainly could help people to assess if the use of the term “racism” is appropriate regarding the current situation of Cambodia or is just a way to “give a weapon” to “criminals” to then stab us in the chest.
Can we call them “racist” when:
- Tibetans denounce the annexation of Tibet by China and Chinese oppression?
- the people of East Timor denounced the colonization of their country and the bloody repression perpetrated by Indonesia?
- Martin Luther King denounced segregation practiced by the “White” against “people of color”?
- Laotians who denounce the transformation of Laos by Hanoi into a mere Vietnamese province?
Kith Chamroeun
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Brève note de réflexion
Mars 18, 2012
De retour hier d’un voyage professionnel à Singapour, je suis outré de voir qu’un certain nombre de Cambodgiens qui qualifient de « racisme » le fait de parler de tout ce qui touche les agissements du Vietnam au Cambodge.
Ce qui me choque encore plus c’est que l’utilisation de ce terme « racisme » relève du fait de quelques personnes qui sont supposées avoir un certain niveau d’intelligence suffisamment élevé pour mesurer pleinement les conséquences d’un tel propos adressé au public à la fois cambodgien et étranger.
Je vous invite tous à revoir la définition du terme « racisme » et les conditions dans lesquelles il a été utilisé et est toujours utilisé aujourd’hui. Etant dans l’impossibilité de développer davantage mes points de vue, faute de temps, sur ce sujet, je souhaite juste soulever une et une seule question, qui pourrait nous aider à travailler un peu notre intellect.
Lors de mon séjour à Singapour, j’avais croisé des diplomates australiens, français et britanniques. En discutant avec eux detout et de rien un soir, j’ai sympathisé avec eux. Et l’un d’entre eux m’a discrètement raconté ceci:
« dans tous les ministères et à chaque niveau de l’administration cambodgienne, les Cambodgiens ne jouent qu’un rôle de paravents. L’arrière scène politique est maintenu d’une main de fer par les politiciens vietnamiens, qui détiennent la nationalité cambodgienne et agissent officiellement en tant que conseillers mais qui détiennent en réalité le pouvoir politique et militaire…. »
Voici la question que je me pose qui pourrait sûrement et certainement aider les personnes concernées à savoir si l’utilisation du terme « racisme » est bien appropriée dans la situation actuelle du Cambodge ou n’est juste qu’une façon de « tendre unearme » aux « criminels » pour qu’ils nous l’enfoncent ensuite dans la poitrine.
Peut-on parler de « racisme » lorsque :
- les Tibétains dénoncent l’annexion du Tibet par la Chine et l’oppression chinoise?
- le peuple du Timor oriental dénonçait l’ « indonéisation » de leur pays et la répression sanglante qui s’en suit?
- Martin Luther King dénonçait la ségrégation pratiquée par les« Blancs » à l’égard des « personnes de couleur » ?
- les Laotiens quidénoncent la transformation du Laos par Hanoi en simple province vietnamienne ?
Bonne réflexion
Kith Chamroeun
26 comments:
my dear, i think it is righteous so for khmer people to feel resentful and show displeasure toward viet/youn meddling in khmer affairs if there are evidence to iindicate so. for me, what i found annoying is that some politicians started labeling everyone who have a different opinion or perspective from them as youn. you know, in khmer way, if you call us "youn" this or that when in actuality we're not, then it is using the race card way too much. so, please next time, before you start labeling khmer people as "youn", (of course khmer people do not want to be called as "youn") please stop using the race card to attack khmer people who want nothing to do with "youn".
and by the way, i don't think cambodia is all about "youn" this or that either. for your information, there are more to cambodia than youn this or that, really! i think people are beginning to get sick and tired of being labeled as "youn" when they are not, you know.
it seemed like everytime something came out of their mouths about cambodia(the accusers'), it's always youn this or that. that's so insulting to khmer person like me, you know. i don't like to be called "youn" because i'm khmer, not youn, ok! i don't care about youn, i only care about khmer and cambodia, you know. after all, this is a khmer topic we're discussing here, isn't it? so, i wish people stop bring up the youn when talking about cambodia. that's all
Stupid analysis! First, Tibet is official under China's rule. Despite of many conspiracy theories, there is still no concise evidence that Cambodia is under Vietnamese rule (that is why Hun Sen is not taking the Vietnamese side against China on the South Sea, and China is giving allowances to Hun Sen & cronies, and no Khmer dare to speak out against Chinese government). Is Hun Sen sometime influenced by Vietnamese govt? Yes, not as much as by Chinese govt, and that is for his own benefit, they are not putting the gun to his head.
Second, You cannot degrade the entire Vietnamese race for the action of its totalitarian communist regime (what if everyone in the world lump you with Hun Sen& Pol Pot. Also, Tibet never use derogatory racist terminology in their fight for independent (When did Dalai Lama or any other Tibetan use derogatory language the entire Chinese race?
Unless you check yourself, you will reck yourself. Elevate your mind people
6:48 AM and 6:48 AM
I think you are just 12 years olds boy.
6:52 AM and I know you are just a 10 year old monkey
MR. KITH,
PLEASE HELP TO FIND WAY TO ENCOURAGE ALL CAMBODIANS TO VOTE TO TOPPLE HUN SEN SO THAT OUR LOVELY HOMELAND WILL BE FREE OF ALL KIND OF HOSTILITY AND CATASTROPHY.
I REALLY HATE THE WORDS " KROM HUN", "DAYKOU PAKDEWAT", "SAMPATEAN SEDTHEKEC", MITAPHEAP MEUN CHHNAM".
6:20 AM and 6:48 AM
you know!
really!
ok!
etc!
How hard is it to understand about the Vietnamese?
Youn or Vietnamese, are controlling the political arena, economic arena and the social arena of Cambodia and Loas.
Cambodia are no less then the Thai (Siam) or Loas or any nations that uses the word Youn instead of Vietnamese.
Its the Redneck Westerners that say we Khmer are racist for playing the race card game.
Yes, we need to stop blaming the Vietnamese for everything and start standing up. But there is nothing wrong and there are plenty of evidence that the Vietnamese are the reason why Khmer people are suffering.
But keep on voting for CPP!!
MR. KITH,
WHAT YOU WERE TOLD ABOUT THE INVOLMENT OF VIETNAMESES IN THE HUN SEN'S GOVERNMENT IS RIGHT.
PLEASE LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THE VIETNAMESE ACCENT THAT MR. TEA BANH AND HOR NAM HONG HAVE.
THEIR NAME ALSO SURPRISE ME.
Ah Comrade Hor Nam Hong is another Vietminh leader sucking the Khmer soul.
Bravo CPP!!
To 6:48AM
Are you saying that the Vietnamese government is not the same thing as the Vietnamese people? Are you saying that every fucken time the Cambodian people talk about the Vietnamese government and you blame the Cambodian people for talking about the Vietnamese people too? This is exactly what you are implying!
Well...when the Vietnamese government took over Khmer Kampuchea Krom they sent in their people (the Vietnamese) to populate the whole Kampchea Krom! The fucken Vietnamese government is doing exactly the same thing in Cambodia under AH HUN SEN Vietcong puppet government! The Vietnamese government allowed over 5 million illegal Vietnamese people to take resident in Cambodia to take over Cambodia!
Don't you see the Vietnamese people are a tool or weapon use by the Vietnamese government to win over Cambodian people! The Vietnamese government and the Vietnamese people go together against Cambodian people!
Why are you here! Why are you still promoting racist card concept! You are good in standing up for the Vietnamese! But I have yet to see you stand up for the Khmer Krom people who have lost so much to the Vietnamese! The Khmer Krom people have lost their identity and their homeland to the Vietnamese and who is going to argue or speak for them now!
Shut your cake hole! Take your stupid analysis to Vietnam!
6:48 AM
Did you read English or read Yuon? The author said Tibetans denounced Chinese is the same thing as Rainsy denounced Yuon. It is about the weaker against the stronger, the black against the white American, etc.
If Khmer nationalist are racist and so are Tibetans.
Accusing the weak as they are racist is stupid. The weak people are crying for help.
6:20 AM
Hi lop lop.
Did you really read and understand this article?
It seems that the author of this article respond to Ta Kiri Tith, PhD who went on VOA and broadcasted himself to please Yuon calling his own Khmer Rainsy racist because Rainsy calling "Yuon" and yes they are "Yuon".
This cry wolf by Yuon to outsiders for sympathy while Yuon themselves destroying Cambodia behind their puppet Hun Sen.
Yiss ah lop lop Kampuchun niss.
You are gonna be soon meet Hoc Lundy, your idol soon.
Ta Kiri Tith as much as I want to respect him but since he lost the position Minister of Finance to Rainsy he is going after Rainsy to just destroy him, I am fed up with the old boy who does Yuon a big favor by tearing Khmers apart for Yuon.
The same strategy Yuon did in the past creating civil war among Khmers.
And when he joined with Kem Sokha against Rainsy is even more suspicious that Ta Kiri Tith is somehow is playing Yuon game.
Why? The old man who earned high degree would fall into this low?
As an elder with such high credentials why cannot he see? Forgot sake please stop tearing each others apart for ah.me Yuon kantorb.
ah khmer of yuon origin 6:20 AM named kampuchun of camdisc,org
read the article from a to z before you wrote a long stupid reply.
Many khmer people in cambodia don't know that they are called/known as "cambodian" by the english speaking countries. Many khmer people don't know that they are racist when they only know the word "youn" address their neighbor to the east because they don't know what is "vietnamese". By the way, what do vietnamese call khmer? I doubt that they call us "cambodian" or "khmer".
I believe the reasons why khmer people keep on blaming vietnam "youn" for the current problems (political, economical and social) and not blaming chinese, thai or laos because it's true that vietnamese are bad for cambodia/cambodian.
Again the word"youn" is not racist just because cambodia might be the only country that know that word.
If khmer people are so racist against youn, they can not live in cambodia, sihanouk would not married to a half youn woman like the previous kings before him.
The word "youn" was never been label as a racist remark towards "vietnamese" until CPP particularly Hun Sen's regime. Does this tell you anything about the CPP (hun sen) in relation to vietnam and the cambodian people?
Must we have to carry all the evidences to prove to all those that are "kloun khmer, kbarl youn" people so we can blame youn for all khmer problems? "kloun khmer, kbarl youn" people don't care about cambodian children future and don't care about what will happen to cambodia. THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE!
5:11 PM
You are absolutely evil. God or Buddha is not with you.
Sihanouk's wife named Monique is not Yuon. She was born in her country (Southern of French Colony) through her father side (French), and French owned 3 States: Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. Back then none of you: de Khmers, de Yuon and de Laotians owned the country.
Ps; Southern of French Colony is South Vietnam today, it was Cambodia before and at the time she was born, the 3 states belonged to France.
You Khmers or Cambodians have to stop this foolish accusation against her. You not only destroy the unity of your own people but you fight with each other for your enemy who watch your stupid fight happily.
De Viets take this word "Yuon" to the international community to judge de Khmers and they accuse de Khmers of being 'racist'. Now you added more fire accusing your own people because she mixed with white and her mother was not royal had many husbands as she is Yuon.
The Newspapers flashing all over the places in the US and Europe that de Khmers (Yuor ignorant Khmer racist) blamed her for everything bad in the country except a common COLD, calling her Yuon is RACIST. She is not YUON but Khmer-French.
Did God help de Khmers for being so BAD? NO. He left you and let you suffer almost died under Pol Pot while the Viets were rooming over Pol Pot killing you de Khmers.
You de Khmers must focus on how to stop fighting for your enemy victory. That exactly "Le Loi" dynasty wrote in his strategy :taking Champa is easy, we use force, but taking Cambodia we must divide them by creating a civil war.
Whenever I read this hate calling her Yuon I said to myself "God how long will you keep them? They are so evils false witness against their own people".
There are so many idiots on this forum, luckily there are reasonable Khmers out there who are sick of the stupidity, and quite frankly, ashamed of the racist attitudes of their kindreds. It is hopeless to reason with you dumb & blind people, let's just stick to your logic that Vietnamese govt is the same as Vietnamese people, and there is no such thing as reverse racism, and conclude that all your Khmers are just as fucked up as Pol Pot & Hun Sen, ok! Just that they 're smarter & luckier than you, otherwise, you would act and do the same. No need for further elaboration! Have a shitty life, you bunch of monkey!
There are so many idiots on this forum, luckily there are reasonable Khmers out there who are sick of the stupidity, and quite frankly, ashamed of the racist attitudes of their kindreds. It is hopeless to reason with you dumb & blind people, let's just stick to your logic that Vietnamese govt is the same as Vietnamese people, and there is no such thing as reverse racism, and conclude that all your Khmers are just as fucked up as Pol Pot & Hun Sen, ok! Just that they 're smarter & luckier than you, otherwise, you would act and do the same. No need for further elaboration! Have a shitty life, you bunch of monkey!
5:11 PM
Where is your proofs accusing Sihanouk's wife as she is half "Yuon"? Give us your "proofs" not hearsay.
You (Cambodians) are being accused of Racist because you called the Vietnmese "Yuon", and that's your problem.
But where is your proof accusing Sihanouk's wife as she is half Yuon? Bring your proofs not hearsay.
Now I knew why the American dislike the stupid Cambodians so much, and regardless they dislike the Vietnamese, they prefer them over Cambodians.
The Americans said "the Cambodians hate her so much they blamed her for EVERYTHING BAD in the country."
Amazingly, this poor old woman and her son are being blessed while you and your blockheads are doomed to be gone.
Your Buddha punishes you and your evil doers.
Sihanouk's wife named Monique Paul Izzi is Khmer-french, a daughter of Mr. Izzi and Pomme Peang. She was raised and lived in the House of Sisowath Sirimatak. She was intelligent and educated beautiful woman. She has class. Unlike her most royal family members are gambling and they are so nasty to the bone. They hate her and accusing her as she is Yuon.
This article is excellent article, but some of low class readers cannot reason, and thos elow class readers includes the Viet at 11:51Pm/11:52 PM as well.
The article said "denouncing the Viet govt.." not about the word "Yuon".
This article is excellent article, but some of low class readers cannot reason, and those low class readers includes the Viet at 11:51Pm/11:52 PM as well.
The article said "denouncing the Viet govt.." not about the word "Yuon".
i don't mind of being called "yuon or yuan or yue". it is my root so be it. i never got mad or headache of that term 'yuon or yuan or yue'.
i knew the history of my root was ruthless and so barbaric toward the cham people, the khmer people etc.., but i have nothing to do with them in the past nor i have anything to do with the yuon/yuan/yue commie in the present.
sooner we all will die and all the land we captured from others and shed their blood will be lost into the sea just like the Atlantis we just discovered.
i'm proud to be freed and live in a free america.
i think the race card came from the royal family of cambodia, they always use race card to incite people. you know royal attitude is. that's where it came from. i don't say all royal members, but most of them are very rude and bad attitude, they are royal of course, that's why! if you don't believe me, just observe the royal family, they talk very nasty to each other like ah, mee, anh, hong, etc. those are all nasty word, especially if if is used in front of your name. i think that's just the khmer way, but it's nasty and bad attitude, you know! i think they should stop using those bad terms, instead just call people by their first name like in america like john jeff, paul, jill, jerry, etc... just first name.
2:07 AM
You left out Bao Dai, the Yuon playboy King. He looked down on Yuon commoners like they were animals to him. And you left out Thai crown prince Vijaralongkorn who called his wife a whore porn star. Not even that he ordered her to wear nothing a G-string at the pool for his dog's party.
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