Driven into exile, Sihanouk initially allied himself with the Khmer Rouge movement. This now infamous picture shows him with Khieu Samphan [left], a key Khmer Rouge leader.Monday - Sunday, August 13 – 19, 2007
Somne Thmey # 155
Translated and published in English by Development Weekly
Posted at KRtrial.info
A few days after an unidentified group scattered anti-Sihanouk leaflets near Phnom Penh’s Wat Phnom demanding the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC) try former King Norodom Sihanouk and China for forming the Khmer Rouge, the retired monarch wrote a letter in French on his website seemingly in response. The six-page-long letter is entitled “Who were the real people responsible for the complete victory and rise to power of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia on April, 17, 1975?”
In the letter, the former king said, “men and women from Field Marshal Lon Nol’s republic groups, have alleged that I bear the greatest responsibility for the matter, an accusation made in early August 2007.” In response, the retired monarch said, “from 1940 to 1950 and 1960, the Khmer Rouge considered itself as my long-term enemy with whom I couldn’t seek compromise and decided to do anything to topple me and dissolve the monarchy.”
“During the Sangkum Reastr Niyum regime, I strongly supported the Khmer Rouge’s young intellectuals. My administration gave them good positions based on their abilities. The Khmer Rouge intellectuals even received positions as chiefs of various services in the Cambodian government. Some worked as National Assembly members, while others were government members holding positions as ministers, secretaries of state or undersecretaries of state,” Norodom Sihanouk said.
“Finally, the Khmer Rouge decided to abandon, criticize and severely slander me. Moreover, they ran into the forest to struggle against Sihanouk and the Cambodian monarchy including the rebellion in Battambang province’s Samlot district,” the former king added.
In 1967 a peasant uprising broke out in Samlot, though its significance was not appreciated at the time, Sihanouk later claimed the attacks had been carried out as a group he labeled the “the Khmer Viet Minh,” or the “Khmer Rouge.”
On March 18, 1970, a military coup was staged by Lon Nol and his accomplices against Sihanouk and the monarchy, said the 85 year-old retired king, adding, “a short time after the successful coup, former senior Khmer Rouge leader Ieng Sary and several other Khmer Rouge leaders went to Beijing. They went there not to support me, but to seek all possible means to establish and operate a strong movement in Beijing against Sihanouk and Cambodia’s monarchy and to use the capital of China as an important base to destroy other nations.”
“With unexplainable excitement and pleasure, Ieng Sary kept on saying in Beijing that ‘[I] would like to say “thank you very much” to Lon Nol and Sirik Matak! The historical coup to overthrow Sihanouk is what we, the Khmer Rouge, never expected. Our fight to end Sihanouk’s regime and Cambodian monarchy is a process which we thought would require a very long time. In regard to the coup by His Excellency Lon Nol on March 18, 1970, we, the Khmer Rouge, had expected to spend at least 20 years trying to get rid of Sihanouk’s regime, Sihanouk’s groups and monarchy,” the former monarch stated. “With the greatest pleasure and unlimited boasts, the Khmer Rouge who supported Ieng Sary but opposed Sihanouk and many other Cambodian royalists dared to come to my residence in Beijing to shout out in front of me “we would have spent at least 20 years trying to overthrow you!”
To confirm that what he claimed is true, the aging monarch said, “Both General Oum Manorin and General Bour Hol, who currently reside in France, can act as witnesses.”
“Since, 1973, the Khmer Rouge never stopped its policy of cruelly destroying anything established by Sihanouk,” the retired king added.
Authorities hunting the leaflet’s distributors
To date, there has still been no light shed on who spread the leaflets though authorities are focused on the investigation, claimed Daun Penh District Police Chief Phorn Pheng. He added that police at all levels have been taking action to uncover the distributors, but that he had very little hope of apprehending the perpetrators.
The leaflets which demanded the retired king and China be prosecuted by the ECCC, come as the Khmer Rouge tribunal is selecting five Khmer Rouge leadership suspects deemed most responsible for the deaths of nearly two million Cambodians during the reign of the Democratic Kampuchea (DK) from 1975 to 1979.
Kaing Khek Iev, better known as Comrade Duch, chief of the S-21 detention center, is the first Khmer Rouge suspect to be charged by the ECCC with committing crimes against humanity. In reference to the claims made on the leaflet, ECCC spokesman Reach Sambath has stressed that the ECCC does not have any jurisdiction to try the retired monarch or China, stressing that “the Cambodian constitution states that the king is inviolable.”
“The jurisdiction of the ECCC can try only two groups of people, top Khmer Rouge leaders and people who bear the greatest responsibility for crimes against humanity committed during the DK regime between April 17, 1975 and January 6, 1979,” the spokesman said, adding that the ECCC is not entitled to try any countries or organizations.
Criticism of the anti-Sihanouk leaflets
Youk Chhang, director of the Documentation Center of Cambodia (DC-Cam), said the anonymous perpetrators should not have scattered pamphlets publicly accusing the retired monarch and China, reasoning it is unfair to the former king.
“Today, we have the ECCC, so [we] should let the court complete the work,” the director said. The former king has repeatedly said that he is also a Khmer Rouge victim, adding that during the regime he was detained in the Royal Palace and that some of his relatives were killed during the brutal regime. The aging monarch had also demanded the cremation of the remains of Khmer Rouge victims so that their spirits can reach a peaceful place.
In the letter, the former king said, “men and women from Field Marshal Lon Nol’s republic groups, have alleged that I bear the greatest responsibility for the matter, an accusation made in early August 2007.” In response, the retired monarch said, “from 1940 to 1950 and 1960, the Khmer Rouge considered itself as my long-term enemy with whom I couldn’t seek compromise and decided to do anything to topple me and dissolve the monarchy.”
“During the Sangkum Reastr Niyum regime, I strongly supported the Khmer Rouge’s young intellectuals. My administration gave them good positions based on their abilities. The Khmer Rouge intellectuals even received positions as chiefs of various services in the Cambodian government. Some worked as National Assembly members, while others were government members holding positions as ministers, secretaries of state or undersecretaries of state,” Norodom Sihanouk said.
“Finally, the Khmer Rouge decided to abandon, criticize and severely slander me. Moreover, they ran into the forest to struggle against Sihanouk and the Cambodian monarchy including the rebellion in Battambang province’s Samlot district,” the former king added.
In 1967 a peasant uprising broke out in Samlot, though its significance was not appreciated at the time, Sihanouk later claimed the attacks had been carried out as a group he labeled the “the Khmer Viet Minh,” or the “Khmer Rouge.”
On March 18, 1970, a military coup was staged by Lon Nol and his accomplices against Sihanouk and the monarchy, said the 85 year-old retired king, adding, “a short time after the successful coup, former senior Khmer Rouge leader Ieng Sary and several other Khmer Rouge leaders went to Beijing. They went there not to support me, but to seek all possible means to establish and operate a strong movement in Beijing against Sihanouk and Cambodia’s monarchy and to use the capital of China as an important base to destroy other nations.”
“With unexplainable excitement and pleasure, Ieng Sary kept on saying in Beijing that ‘[I] would like to say “thank you very much” to Lon Nol and Sirik Matak! The historical coup to overthrow Sihanouk is what we, the Khmer Rouge, never expected. Our fight to end Sihanouk’s regime and Cambodian monarchy is a process which we thought would require a very long time. In regard to the coup by His Excellency Lon Nol on March 18, 1970, we, the Khmer Rouge, had expected to spend at least 20 years trying to get rid of Sihanouk’s regime, Sihanouk’s groups and monarchy,” the former monarch stated. “With the greatest pleasure and unlimited boasts, the Khmer Rouge who supported Ieng Sary but opposed Sihanouk and many other Cambodian royalists dared to come to my residence in Beijing to shout out in front of me “we would have spent at least 20 years trying to overthrow you!”
To confirm that what he claimed is true, the aging monarch said, “Both General Oum Manorin and General Bour Hol, who currently reside in France, can act as witnesses.”
“Since, 1973, the Khmer Rouge never stopped its policy of cruelly destroying anything established by Sihanouk,” the retired king added.
“The jurisdiction of the ECCC can try only two groups of people, Khmer Rouge top leaders and people who bear the greatest responsibility for crimes against humanity committed during the DK regime between April17, 1975 and January 6, 1979.” Reach Sambath, ECCC spokesmanWith regard to the Khmer Rouge’s victory in April 1975’s, Norodom Sihanouk said “because the US air forces kept bombarding and destroying our Cambodian people’s rice fields, plantations, villages and properties and lives. The situation encouraged compatriots to join a struggle to liberate their nation from the claws of corrupt traitors whose bosses were imperialists, colonists and South Vietnamese; among those who precipitated hardship, robbery, and destruction of pagodas in Cambodia and who encroached on our villages, communes, districts, land, islands and sea.”
Authorities hunting the leaflet’s distributors
To date, there has still been no light shed on who spread the leaflets though authorities are focused on the investigation, claimed Daun Penh District Police Chief Phorn Pheng. He added that police at all levels have been taking action to uncover the distributors, but that he had very little hope of apprehending the perpetrators.
The leaflets which demanded the retired king and China be prosecuted by the ECCC, come as the Khmer Rouge tribunal is selecting five Khmer Rouge leadership suspects deemed most responsible for the deaths of nearly two million Cambodians during the reign of the Democratic Kampuchea (DK) from 1975 to 1979.
Kaing Khek Iev, better known as Comrade Duch, chief of the S-21 detention center, is the first Khmer Rouge suspect to be charged by the ECCC with committing crimes against humanity. In reference to the claims made on the leaflet, ECCC spokesman Reach Sambath has stressed that the ECCC does not have any jurisdiction to try the retired monarch or China, stressing that “the Cambodian constitution states that the king is inviolable.”
“The jurisdiction of the ECCC can try only two groups of people, top Khmer Rouge leaders and people who bear the greatest responsibility for crimes against humanity committed during the DK regime between April 17, 1975 and January 6, 1979,” the spokesman said, adding that the ECCC is not entitled to try any countries or organizations.
Criticism of the anti-Sihanouk leaflets
Youk Chhang, director of the Documentation Center of Cambodia (DC-Cam), said the anonymous perpetrators should not have scattered pamphlets publicly accusing the retired monarch and China, reasoning it is unfair to the former king.
“Today, we have the ECCC, so [we] should let the court complete the work,” the director said. The former king has repeatedly said that he is also a Khmer Rouge victim, adding that during the regime he was detained in the Royal Palace and that some of his relatives were killed during the brutal regime. The aging monarch had also demanded the cremation of the remains of Khmer Rouge victims so that their spirits can reach a peaceful place.
39 comments:
I believe that there are at least 3 millions of victims of Khmer Rouge regime are still alived like myself. Therefore, all of us are still remembering how former King has intensifying to call all peasants and citizens to join Khmer rouge in the marquis to revenge with National Armies to bring him back to power. I believe that the former King should held responsibility for all destructions caused by his immature determination in the past to have all his opponents to be killed. He must dare to stand trial and make a public apology so that the public can forgive him and will give him back his honour. If he still refuse his recognition for his desastrous determination of the past, he will die with bad name. The people will not forgive for their sufferings. His name will be in the history after his death as one of the evils on earth.
Why not? If wanted to get to the bottom of this endless misery, I want to hear what the former King has to say...
no use to try this old King. He will deny deny deny as he has been doing. He will only confess when he goes to hell. He will not escape from going to hell since he killed many people during he was in power.
Let God decide. It's easy. God knows everything.
What you do, you must receive.
That is gutles Old king ,shame on you it about time lay down& resting but still keep secrete,there weren't a secrete, Who create khmer rouge =Seihak nouk
Who feed supply the place for Youn to hide
=Oumanaarin,Monique and Seihaknouk.
Kampuchea Neutral in 67,68 ,69 and 70 who hide the Yiekcong and American bombed us=Seihaknouk ,Who told In Tam & Lon Nol to do that coup in march 18 1970= Seihaknouk.AS SIR 10:20 AM that is respectful & meaning full. Sdech TA please do not take that digrace & trator with you, here no peace for your soul to rest ,because there are more than two million souls are waiting and welcome you there.
khmer pheas khluon
ALL BELOVED TRUE KHMER COMPATRIOTS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ALL THE FOREIGN HELPERS,
YES! I BELIEVE IN ALMIGHTY GOD TOO,GOD KNOWS EVERY THINGS, HE IS IN CONTROL, BUT SOMETIME YOU HAVE GOT TO HELP GOD A LITTLE BIT BY TELLING THE TRUTH, SPEAKING THE RIGHT WAY AND ACTING CORRECTLY.
POL POT KHMER ROUGE WAS PHYSICALLY TRAINED BY YUONS AND VIETMINH COMMUNISTS AND FINANCIALLY SUPPORT INCLUDING ALL WEAPONS AND ARMS BY CHINA.
EX-KING SIHANOUK CRAZY ABOUT HIS YUON WIFE MONIQUE AND LOVED YUON'S INVADERS, THEREFORE THE ECCC MUST PUT EX-KING SIHANOUK ON TRIAL TOO FOR 1-ABOUT KHMERS GENOCIDE,
2-ABOUT ALLOWED YUONS TO DESTROY CAMBODIA FROM 60'S UNTIL NOW.
LON NOL WAS NEVER STAGGED A COUP D'ETAT AGAINST SIHANOUK(SIC).
IT WAS SIHANOUK HIMSELF WHOM HE COULD NOT CONTROL YUONS THE EXPANSIONIST INTENTION AND RAN AWAY FROM CAMBODIA BY LEAVING EVERY KHMER BEHIND TO FACE THE MUSICS BY YUON'S COMMUNISTS EXPANSIONISTS(VIETCONG) ARMFORCES.
IT WAS NOT LON NOL WHO DEPOSED SIHANOUK, BUT IT WAS HIS OWN GOVERNMENT ASSEMBLY WHO GAVE A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE ON RUN-AWAY SIHANOUK.
LON NOL HAD TRIED HIS BEST BY SENT SIHANOUK COUSIN PRINCE NORODOM KANTOL AND JUSTICE MINISTER HIS EXCELLENCY YEM SAMBO TO INVITE SIHANOUK BACK INTO CAMBODIA TO HELP TO FIGHT THE YUON'S COMMUNISTS ARMY(VIETCONG).
SIHANOUK REFUSED NOT TO COME BACK BUT TO CO-OPERATE WITH YUONS AND KHMER ROUGE TO KILL HIS OWN INNOCENT KHMERS IN MILLIONS.
1973 ONCE AGAING LON NOL TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH SIHANOUK TO COME BACK TO HELPL CAMBODIA, AGAIN HE REFUSED HE RATHER LISTEN TO THE KHMER'S ENNEMIES YUONS AND CHINA.
THE REALITY IS YUONS STILL SWALLOWING CAMBODIA EVERY DAY, AND SIHANOUK HAPPILY WATCH AND KEEP QUIET WORRYING THAT HIS YUON'S WIFE MONIQUE WILL BETRAY HIM(SIC)
SIHANOUK + CHINA + YUON COMMNISTS MUST BE JUDGE BY ECCC KRT, THEN THE WORLD COMMUNITIES WILL SEE CLEARLY THAT YUONS STILL OCCUPYING CAMBODIA AND DISGUISED AS KHMER AUTHORITY IN EVERY CORNER OF CAMBODIA AFTER THEY DISGUISED AS KHMER ROUGE SOLDIERS AND KILL MILLIONS OF INNOCENT KHMERS.
FINALLY IF SIHANOUK + CHINA + YUON'S COMMUNISTS NOT PUT FOR TRIAL BY ECCC, KRT THE ENTIRE CAMBODIA'S JUSTICE WILL BE IN VEIN.
PLEASE THE WORLD COMMUNITY HELP CAMBODIA FIND JUSTICE.
IF SIHANOUK + CHINA + YUONS ARE FREE FROM PROSECUTIONS THE ENTIRE KHMER PEOPLE WILL BE SWALLOW BY YUON'S COMMUNISTS VERY SOON IN THE FUTURE.
AMERICA BOMBED CAMBODIA BECAUSE SIHANOUK LET YUON'S COMMUNISTS USED KHMER TERRITORIES TO ATTACKED AMERICAN ALLIED FORCES(SIC)
MR,Miss or Mrs 12:PM I do not know you nor see you before ,but this exactly what SEIHAKNOUK DID. the truth is about the truth,I support your comment-100% best history recorder.
Viva mr.mrs. or miss-12:27 PM
khmer pheas Chloe
Picture can be used as propaganda and even in writing! I see a lot of bad people take a picture with famous people and does this mean that famous people are bad people too? Of course not!
Let not look at thing in a snapshot because it is very dangerous! The Khmer Rouge’s issue is being looked in a snapshot! Think about it! Even without King Sihanouk, do you think that Russia and China can't play a role in the Khmer Rouge movement not to mention the Vietcong?
Russia and China are the biggest SUPER POWER in the communist world and compare that to King Sihanouk! There is no comparison here because King Sihanouk is just a shrimp among whales! Now I know why King Sihanouk want to hold on to Cambodian neutrality so bad and it is too bad that he must choose side because million and million of Cambodian people will have to die!
Mr,Mrs and miss I strongly support your comment and please tell me who is Sihanouk, and why he wrote a letter in French six-pages-long? Could the Khmer people understand? Sihanouk never though about Kampuchea and Khmer people. Does he truth Khmer and love Kampuchea? Why he use the foreign bodyguard? The head of killer and destroyed the country is him.
To all the idiots who said ask god for help and let god decide,
you all wouldn't be saying this if you were in the middle of the khmer rouge regime's terror and dying of starvation.
Sihaunok should be renamed as the used and abused king.
he was used by the chinese, vietnamese, communists, french, and the khmer rouge.
if he was a common person, he would be just a sickly, miserable loser and nobody gives a damn about him.
but because he was the king of Cambodia, he dragged the khmer people along and made them suffer. the sad thing is he doesn't even realize this.
I JUST HOPE THE RECENT KING WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUN GIRLS OR EVENTUALLY MARRYING ONE. LET SEE IF THE SEED IS CLOSER TO THE TREE OR NOT ( FORMER KING ).
All leaders abuse power not only Kings who abuse power.
But what we are looking for is who was the real Khmer Rouge's creator and who did all the killings within the regime. Did King Sihanouk actually create the KHmer Rouge or did Ho Chi Minh create the Khmer Rouge for his Indochinese Communist Party since 1930 while Indochina was still under French controled?
If anyone thinks that Vietnam has nothing to do with the genocide in Cambodia is wrong. Why did Vietnam create Khmer Rouge (Indochinese Communist Party)? Not only chased the French but to take over Cambodia and Laos.
King Sihanouk perhaps tried to play games for what he thought he could save his country, but now what he got? A tragedy.
Either way, Vietnam has the intentions to take Cambodia and Laos with or without Sihanouk that was the FACT. Keeping Cambodia is to keep the risk to Vietnam, Cambodia will never let Vietnam to have peace because of Kampuchea Krom that Vietnam took it.
Recently Vietnam wrote a phony history about Kampuchea Krom; so eliminating Cambodia will give Vietnam peace; and Thailand also worked together with the plan.
This Dynasty (Chakry Dynasty) and Vietnam from the begining controled Cambodia. Cambodia lost to Thailand and Vietnam until French was invited to take over (Saved by the Bell).
KHmers did not study why Vietnam and Thailand want to exterminate them, that is so sad.
Kampuchea Krom Vietnam wanted, and Nort eathern Provinces (Preah Vihear) Thailand wanted and therefore, they both wanted to exterminate Cambodia with or without Sihanouk.
Not long ago, Thai scholar? who made a statement that ~100 years or so Thai and Vietnam border will be met. Does it tell Khmers something? It said no more Cambodia and Laos but Vietnam and Thaialnd.
Vietnam will do every possibilities to exterminate Khmers, and the fabrication story of the monument of Viet_Khmer friendship was to go after KHmer Krom.
Yet these Khmer people do not see the danger that Vietnam and Thailand are about to kill them all.
Do you all think with or without Sihanouk Khmers will get away from being exterminated? NO.
Khmer Rouge was created by Vietnam.
Dear all,
Cambodia is not an independent country since the fall of Angkor and specially since Khmer monarchy is held y Chey chetha II clan, and this till present day. While a country is not independent, the power should not in the hand of a man or a bunch of people, barbarous, unconscious and evils. Because in this context, politics become chess game, so if enemies held or killed the king, all the rest will be held, killed and destroyed, this is what always happened in Cambodia, in particularly since seventy. Viet, china and other foreigners seen, planed and full played this game to their advantage to the detriment of Khmer nation and people. Unfortunately, Khmer people was unable to do anything to stop it to happen because they were mentally, intellectual not ready to do that. Now things are too late but I believe, nothing is too late for change as long as people have a dream ….And our people dream is too free their lives, free their life, physically, mentally from viet messing culture/influence and viet killing field for a better life….
To khmer taing oss khnea.
Khmer rouge was created by khmers and was NAMED as such by Norodumb SIHANOUK .They are khiev samphan,salot sar a.k.a POL POT,ieng sary etc...These khmers communist were supported by yuons and chineses communist because they all have the same ideology.The question is if you are yuons vietcong whom are you going to support?Gen lon nol? or khmer rouge? of course you go for the KR.Don't blame anybody, just blame your fucking khmers THEMSELVES for killing their own race.
Sihanouk please stop make us confuse about the year 1940 all the way to 1960.We are talking about 1970 to 1975 the duration in which you were a mouthpiece of the khmer rouge. You lured all innocences khmers who so faithful to you to join the khmer rouges and ultimately got slaughtered by KR. Sihanouk, you are in the eyes of the world A KHMER ROUGE's ACCOMPLICE period. So go ahead and volunter for trial along with your buddy khiev samphan with whom you hug so passionately.
Thank you 12:08AM. I support your very clear opinion and position. This is about who are responsible for killings of 2M Cambodians or more that occurred between 1975 and 1979. So to the ignorant Khmers who are obsessed with your anti VN and racial stance, stop writing about Khmer history with Vietnam and Thailand so you can put the blame on others instead of yourselves, and stop giving the VN credit for being responsible for every aspect of Cambodian life. You make Cambodian leaders irresponsible for what they do. For your information, the Khmer Rouge believes in “Ekareach Mchas Kar”, independent self- sufficient, self-managed self control. Telling them that Angkar is under VN control or created by the VN was regarded as a deadly insult that would make you a clear target for execution as “khmaing” or enemy.
Suppose one day, Hun Sen is put on trial for the killings of some innocent Khmers and the loss of Cambodian territory to the VN, if he argues that he was under the control of the VN, would that make him not responsible, not guilty, or innocent, and would that be acceptable to you? Obviously these ignorant Khmers cannot see that far.
Sihanouk is living in denial. He’s the one who lost the most. The longer he lives, the longer he suffers, and history will not judge him kindly, because of the results of his handling of Cambodia’s state affairs which brings enormous sufferings to the people.
In theory, Sihanouk (monarchy) has nothing in common with the Khmer Rouge (communism) and VN. His collusion with the Khmer Rouge and the VN was because he thought he could use them to get his power back from Lon Nol, regardless of the price we are all going to pay for. And the Khmer Rouge used Sihanouk to recruit their fighters who were mostly poor and ignorant peasants. In 1975, he got his revenge, but not the power and the communists (KR and VN) turned against him. At the collapse of the Khmer Rouge regime, Sihanouk was freed and immediately asked the American (imperialist) Government for political asylum.
As a result, the poor, ignorant (KR), innocent, educated and nationalist Khmer people all are paying a big price.
And the VN has everything to gain from these greedy, ignorant, power-hungry leaders.
my tribute to all the victims.
I sensed many Yuon speak Khmer and live in Cambodian land. They ignored that Yuon Ho Chi Minh who created Khmer Rouge since 1930's.
As long as KHmers keep fighting with each other Yuon are happy to see the destruction of Khmer continues. 12:08 AM, you are purely Yuon of Ho Chi Minh.
Read this Yuon Ho Chi Minh very careful, why did he/she ignore the Khmer Rouge's creator, Yuon Ho Chi Minh? Check history, and ask why did Yuon create Indochinese Communist Party and then create Khmer Rouge?
Cambodia has never reached a real independent since after Siam sacked Angkor then Yuon came in.
I am totally an ANTI_YUON.
11:42am you are just a kid who knew a shit about khmer rouge so fuckoff. i really believe you are in your thirty.If you don't know shit just keep quiet and learn.
I used to admire Youk Chhang, but for now NOT ANYMORE! he is a politician nowadays and try to kiss Hun Sen /CPP ass whenever he can... WHAt a fake hero!
I think Vietcong and its cronies don’t need to insult and persecute Khmer people more than that because these insults wont clean any of viet crimes. Yuons must know that while Khmer talk about yuon’s crime, it is not for the pleasure of blaming yuon or anyone but it is about truth, justice and most of all historical facts that every Khmer must know and must learn to look face to face to those REAL murderers who always killed them and make them those miserable. So it is not about blaming game or not blaming yuon, it is neither means that Khmers will leave those who stood with yuons to kill and destroy Khmer get out of their crime, no matter who they are… nis ke hav tha pouch sat krobei dombao knang min chaol putt vir,.. …
As for who create Khmer rouge or not, it is neither yuon or anybody can change the course of history, and even yuons and its company had tried so bad, but no matter the truth will win as long as there are people who love truth and justice still exist on this earth and they continue to stand against yuon crimes, crime against humanity.
As I know, ‘Khmer rouge or Khmer vietminh’ was created by Yuon since 1930 through different phrases, imagined by Ho. Its group was primitively name Khmer Isarak, a movement Khmero-yuon resistance created to fight against French colonization but this idea was initiated by yuon so all controlled and managed by yuons. Later at sixty and seventy, Khmer isarak was converted by yuons to Khmer Vietminh, all controlled and manage by yuon under the command of a yuon who took Khmer name “A char Mean (or Son Nhok Minh, its viet’s name) At that period, yuons had captured many thousands khmer little boys to train to be yuon’s tools/yuon killing machine, among these boys there are pen sovann and company…etc Yuon hope to install these yuon’s tools on the heads of khmer to execute yuon order and yuon wills, it means to kill and destroy Khmers for yuons. These kmeng Vietminh, some are still alive other were killed, they never know who are their family, where they come from! They were tore out from their family and those they loved since they were so little and needed all loves and cares from their love ones to be trained to become yuon killing tools ! How sad ! All these much suffering just to become yuon killing tools, murderers of their own people and their loves ones ! So it is not rare that during their missions or operations, these kmeng vieminh killed their own family and parents without knowing that those victims they killed were their beloved ones! How cruel…. !!! And say that, there are millions people, and even among intellectual one, still support yuons and yuon’s horrible atrocious crimes !!!!
Later, while Sihanouk jointed yuons/khmer rouge clan, yuons had convinced sihanouk to change Khmer Vietminh name into Khmer rouge because according to yuons, Khmer Vietminh sound too much yuon to lead genocide against khmer. Yuons want to kill but keep clean hand, that’s is evident. On the other hand, it is necessary for yuon to hide behind the killing field in regard of international laws and opinions. It is simply yuons.
Pol pot and lots of his comrades too, used to be Khmer vietminh and worked under yuon supervisor obeying to his beloved master ho chi minh. And apparently in sixty, seventy and even after 7 jan 79, yuon still did the same with thousands and thousands orphans of the killing field. They sent many thousands of these orphans to be trained in viet to become viet tools. These people, after being mentally conditioned and programmed by yuons, will be sent to Cambodia to execute yuon’s wills. But this is not the only way to become yuons or yuon’s tools, but through their control, influence and administration over Cambodia in particularly through their full ands over Khmer medias(propaganda), education and culture influence, yuons have created on millions of Khmer Vietminh/Khmer rouge(yuons) These people colonized by yuon mentality and wills, will not easy to help…. And they largely contribute to maintain and run yuon genocide industry.
These below documents found on the net will testify what is really happened in Cambodia, no matter those criminals tried hard to hide it from Khmer the world and from Khmer people.
http://devaraja.free.fr/1Opinion/1cambo-freedom00.pdf
http://devaraja.free.fr/1Opinion/0documenthist01.pdf
http://devaraja.free.fr/1Opinion/0documenthist02.pdf
http://devaraja.free.fr/1Opinion/0documenthist03.pdf
http://devaraja.free.fr/1Opinion/0documenthist05.pdf
http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/0mtes-tum-files/frenchosinoyuon.pdf
http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/1sihanouk-crime.htm
The V
Documment from soth polin, a high khmer scolar, regarding the killing field http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/1sothpolin/1snake-of-khgenocide.pdf
IF SEIHAKNOUK KNOWS CLEARLY THAT YIEK MINH YIEKCONG WERE BLOOD THIRSTY,WHY MONIQUE AND PEOPLE FROM PALACE SUPPLY FOOD MEDICINE TO YIEKCONG THROUGH KRATIE AND RATTANAKIRI PROVINCE? WHY SEI HAKNOUK ADMITTED IN YOU TUBE ? WHY SHEIHAKNUOUK PICK YOUN AND CHINA INSTEAD OF US? THIS WHORE NAMED SEIHAKNOUK DON'T MAKE UP HIS MIND? TOO MANY MEN SOME TIME THE GOOD MAN (USA) DOSN'T WANTS HER INFECTED (SEIHAKNOUK) AND WE ALL CAMBODIAN SUFFER ,BECAUSE WE GAVE THE FATE TO ONE MAN TO CONTROL ,AND THE DISASTER STILL REMAIN BECAUSE CAMBODIA FATE STILL IN ONE MAN CONTROL. IF SEIHAKNOUK NOT THE KHMER ROUGE CREATOR WHY 2 MILLIONS OF US WERE EXECUTED ,WHY SHEIHAKNOUK AND HIS FAMILY SURVIVE? THINK ABOUT THAT.
Eh, 3:24 PM.
>You said "11:42 AM you are
>just a kid who knew a shit
> about khmer
>rouge so fuckoff. i really >believe you are in your thirty.
>If you don't know shit just
>keep quiet and learn.
I still sense you are Yuon or at least part of the Yuon agent.
Listen!! I read and I watched/learned from too many documents such as HISTORY.
I am a product after Khmer Rouge (born outside of Cambodia) and although I don't have experiences in KR but my friend, I knew more than you can think.
So SHUT UP before I will SLAB you more with HISTORY.
WHY DO YOU ERASE THE BIRTH of THE INDOCHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY CREATE BY HO CHI MINH in 1930?
King Sihanouk was only a teenager when he was crowned in 1940.
You can convince these audiences but you cannot do to me.
Khmer Rouge were created by Ho Chi Minh the Yuon Communist.
Do you think at that time there were no YUON Agents inside with Pol Pot? Pol Pot was Ho Chi Minh's student. They were all together in Cambodia.
You may be a YUON ESPIONAGE.
Moi28 you never have any exprient with the Khmer politic and you never know at all. You usually want to bo under the dust of the royal familly members. So when you never stay in Kampuchea shut your mouth up or you want sihanouk or the royal familly members fuck your asshole? You don't listen from real world you listen only one side you are so damm.
kj, insult cant make you a better person than what you are now. On what fundament you based to accuse moi28 of listening only onside story? What is your other side of truth? Please be more specific
Eh 1:57 AM. Please udnerstand the age has nothing to do with the person's knowledge. I debate based on the history I learned not based on my experiences with which I was not yet born. Many Scientists today were not born during Einstein was alive, they can study and they can find way to land on moon, now on Mars and they will create Oxygen on Mars; so do not use your baseless arguement to threat me. Your cursing, insulting won't change the facts hidden in the history although there may be more facts are being hidden in it and no body talk/write about.
Since Angkor was sacked (defeated) around ~ 14 century by Thai then Yuon invaded, later Yuon and Thai joined controlled Kampuchea; and the threat of Yuon force after took CHAMPA, Cambodia has never had an independent. Thai controlled Northern Provinces such as Siem Riep and Battambang, and Yuon were all over in Cambodia. The only one time Cambodia had her shaky independent from Yuon was when the French came; and Khmers got their Northern Provinces back from Thai after Thai were defeated in war by the French.
BUT the Khmer Politiciencs and the Khmers allowed the opportunity slipping away, they made enemy with the French, then another nightmare came upon Cambodia. The nightmare was that the French hired the Yuon to control Cambodia's state affair, and at the same time the Yuon started to build their own giant army.
Yuon not only built the army but they created "The Indochinese Communist Army" created KHmer Rouge since in 1930, long prior to 1940 King Sihanouk was crowned King of Cambodia; and in 1940 King Sihanouk was just a teenager. He has nothing to do with the birth of the Khmer Rouge during 1930 when he was under 10 years old at that time. It was Ho Chi Minh who created KHmer Rouge and Communist Laos for the intentions to take over Cambodia and Laos after they kick the French out by the help of Josef Stalin (Former Soviet Union Leader) and the help of Mao Tse Tung (new leader of Communist China).
Cambodia was always under Yuon even during the French controlled.
The Yuon have fear of Kampchea Krom may be taken back by Khmers, so the Yuon have always attempted to exterminate Khmers until today.
During KHmer Rouge although no body knew the facts inside Cambodia but based on the history of Khmer Rouge was created by Ho Chi Minh, the Yuon were in Cambodia with Pol Pot, and they are still in Cambodia with Hun Sen.
I proved the world that King Sihanouk did not create Khmer Rouge, not what he is my favorite person.
Since you ignored the history of Yuon who were the one created KHmer Rouge now created Hun Sen, I have every right to accuse you of being an espionage of Yuon Communist Hanoi.
The Yuon Communist Hanoi have always attempted to divide Khmer Community as your arguments proved to be truth.
KHmers have always killed each others and have continued to kill each others as long as Yuon are in it.
I will SLAB you more with more Documents (History) if you ever defended Yuon again.
I believed taht King Sihanouk had no chioces but to play politic games along with it because he saw the mighty army of Communists Soviet Unions, China, Cuba helped Yuon, and he knew that the US would never commit with any nation.
King Sihanouk took a chance to play all games; and at the end his nation fell into the hand of Communists. Both if King Sihanouk joined with only the US, the communists would have taken Cambodia for good; and perhaps, Khmers were may be all killed by the foreign Communists Yuon et al.
Or may be there is no Hun Sen Regime today.
You all can blame whatever you want, but that's what when the GIANT(Communist) vs, GIANT(US +democracy), small nations will die.
Now you know why I defend King Sihanouk? Because I am TOTALLY against Yuon.
If you think you are not an ignorant who still questions about the Khmer Rouge bloody regime, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge
The term "Khmer Rouge," meaning "Red Khmer" in French, was coined by Cambodian head of state Norodom Sihanouk and was later adopted in English.
And here is I quoted from the history:
"It was during Monivong's rule that Cambodia became open to outside communist influences. It was also during his reign that Ieng Sary, Pol Pot, and other future Cambodian communist leaders were born. In 1930, the Vietnamese leader Ho Chi Minh founded the Indochina Communist Party which subsequently obtained popularity in Cambodia. The Cambodian communists were intent on their primary objective of overthrowing the French."
And here is the link of the history who created Khmer Rouge in the very 1st place:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisowath_Monivong
It said the Yuon named Ho Chi Minh did create the Indochinese Communist Party in 1930, and the Indochinese Communist Party contains YUON, Laos, and Cambodia(KR). What the purposes of Yuon to create Indochinese Communist Party?
You all have to understand the SOURCE of the FIRE. Yuon were the source of all EVILS who created the Indochinese Communist Party to take over Cambodia and Loas and to erase the chapter of Khmer krom Land. Today Yuon changes the history of Kampuchea Krom and continue to divide Khmer community within the Cambodian community, and they do successfully, taht is why many Khmers go after King Sihanouk alone and let the Yuon go free.
The Khmer Rouge were BORN long prior to King Sihanouk was crowned King since he was under 10 years old. What do you all suppose to want him to do when the giant army of Communist, Yuon supported by Soviet Unions and China attacking the US and the French?
The EVIDENCE is Clear that Ho Chi Minh CREATED Indochinese Communist Party and created Khmer Rouge since in 1930, and King Sihanouk became King in 1941 he was still a teenager.
I defend King Sihanouk and I have all reasons to believe that Yuon are the most arrogant, aggressive creature that all Khmers must not forget. Look at the situations today why Yuon are so arraogant even using their name "Vietnam" on Khmer Agnkor Watt, arrested Khmer monks in Cambodian land. etc..
If Yuon can make these Khmers like Tep Vong to defrock his own people then why don't I believe that Yuon agents were also in Cambodia during Pol Pot regime? Pol Pot was Ho Chi Minh's student after all. The two joined hand to kill KHmer people.
Dear all,
Sihanouk was not founder of Khmer rouge movement for the simple raison « BECAUSE HE WAS NOT » *and even he helped yuon by different ways to install its army over Cambodia by influence of people around him but sihanouk was not yet decided to joint yuon. He just jointed Viets/Khmer rouge later in a movement that is already created by yuons even interior of the period he was topped as king by French. Anyway, founder of Khmer rouge or not, sihanouk does has less responsibility in the massacre of millions Khmer people. Sihanouk definitely bears weightily his own weight of responsibility in this crime in front of nation and history because it was sihanouk who made possible yuon’q plan and the killing field till present day. Without sihanouk Khmer rouge movement would annihilated before they can see the day because they were still so few in seventy, poor people, poor educated (beside their leaders), poor armed, poor in military training, no plan, no real target, lots know nothing about communism and why they are here. And even with the rest of Khmer isarak and Khmer Vietminh from thirty and sixty, they were a small bunch of losers, because few are khmer who jointed with yuons/Khmer Vietminh. Khmer people HATE communism and they also know that if they joint communism they will become yuon’s slaves, obey to yuon’s wills and sure will be killed by yuon because communism in Indochina was supervisor and managed by yuons. But while sihanouk decided officially to joint yuons/Khmer rouge in early seventy, many Khmer were forced by Vietcong or by love for sihanouk to join sihanouk, and by this they jointed yuons and worked for yuons, under yuon direction. But even though, Khmers rouges were in impossibility to win Khmer republican until Sihanouk and Pol pot requested yuons for more. This it was not only yuon who took Khmer skin, worked since years with Khmer vietminh but many thousands of real yuons army force. This late yuon big supply is determinate to make possible 17 April 75 and the killing field began since then…. Here is the document testified about that event by Nguyen co thach, yuon foreign ministry of that period: http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/nguyen-cothach.ram
http://amekhmer.free.fr/republic-songs/0republic-songs.htm
Some times I personally believe that AH moi28 taking side because of family conflicting problem ,so keep Ah moi out of this jury room,nothing not gonna be fair and balance she will erase all the true story, for the reason of the kingdom ,is her umbrella no matter that umbrella under hot water, so have a good hope that all Cambodian had been through the darkest time THEY ARE BELIEVE IN YOU.
thanks you
khmer pheas khloun
Let me bring another story to the ignorant kid who thinks he knows Khmer history perfectly clear. Does he know that Sihanouk has different view than his about the KR?. He can forget about kissing Sihanouk's ass, after he reads this report:
PARIS (AFP) - A Cambodian prince, Norodom Narindrapong, died of a heart attack in his Paris apartment this week aged 49, French police and the Cambodian embassy here told AFP.
Prince Norodom, one of King Norodom Sihanouk's 14 children, was declared dead Tuesday when paramedics arrived at his flat in the French capital's 13th arrondissement after answering an emergency call from a relative. Police said Wednesday that it appeared the prince had died of a cardiac arrest. The embassy said Prince Norodom lived in Paris but had no official functions in France. The ailing 80-year-old king of Cambodia, a figurehead figure with no real powers, has reportedly been thinking of abdicating his throne to an elder son, Norodom Sihamoni, 50, who also lives in Paris as Cambodia's ambassador to UNESCO (news - web sites). Norodom Narindrapong and Norodom Sihamoni were full brothers, born of the king's union with Queen Monineath, his fifth wife. Prince Norodom Narindrapong was said to have fallen from grace with his father after sympathising with the Khmer Rouge (news - web sites), the bloody rulers of Cambodia between 1975 and 1979 who slaughtered thousands of people, including several of Sihanouk's other children. The king has frosty relations with his eldest son, Norodom Ranariddh, who leads a royalist party, FUNCINPEC, and who is currently trying to block the formation of a new government led by Prime Minister Hun Sen's ruling Cambodian People's Party. Because Cambodia has an elected, not hereditary, monarchy, it is the government that essentially controls the succession.
I think, people cant be anti yuon and at time sell head for royal palace or sihanouk because khmer monarchy is a yuon institution since long ago, and sihanouk is condemned to be yuon slave, serve yuon interest no matter the perfect political game he can play to divert opinion. Serving monarchy is serving yuon, the rest is only political game because these things are YUON
i went to chat in yahoo chartroom sometime with my pots and met a man with a screen sopheap boros, some people call him jame. this man has a lot of doucments and know all the history about vietnam and everything . dam, this man an't anti sj sihanouk but sometime he can da damn harsh with sj. Unlike a group of yaoun haters and antigov, he taught us that Vietnamese never want to kill Khmer, any time. The khmer who were kill before k5, 17, 18,19 century,were killed in various wars between vietnamese, Thailand and khmer, so vietnamese never kill Khmers at all. It is the same in the cold war, he said, vietnamese never want to invade Cambodia, not at all, the kiling field is about damn khmer rouge affair, nothing with the vietnamese because the Vietnamese were so usy with their own countrymen problem, they had nor heart nor time to think 2 invade Cambodia. dman, I like this man because he goes through with the young and pass through easy with everyone one and unlike those losers cpp and yaoun haters, we formed a block with this man and danm, my friends and I like to piss off on these yaoun haters till they shut up from yahoo
damn yaoun haters
Some stupid Cambodian people always blame King Sihanouk as Youn or even his wife and I mean come on! After all King Sihanouk is a King and a King needs a Kingdom and subjects to rule! Now if the Viet rules everything in Cambodia, what is left for King Sihanouk to rule? Nothing! Nothing! Nothing!
If I were a King I wouldn't be stupid enough to let the Viet rule Cambodia because only I the King can rule Cambodia otherwise it will be a fucken war! This is exactly what happened with King Sihanouk and the Vietcong!
King Sihanouk realized that Cambodia don't have ATOMIC BOMB and has only a few thousand army while the Vietname can afford to have million of standing army!
Since King Sihanouk can’t hang on his neutral Cambodia and he invited the Viet in the North and the South to come to Cambodia and kill each other and beside King Sihanouk had made an ally with Chinese as insurance policy who are situated only an arm length from Vietname who will use force to tame the Vietcong anytime they want! Ahahhahhah!
A real King will to risk everything including go to war to save his Kingdom! But for a fake King, he will never go to war or worse the fake King is willing to collaborate with the enemy as long as he has the power to save his skin at the expense of his subjects!
To 2:49AM Vietcong dog eater!
Fuck all your Vietcong documents! The Vietcong are good at fabricating bullshit to fit their action and history! I bet a fucken fool like you didn't know that recently the Vietcong came out with new a history book to distort the Khmer Krom people history with the aim to deny their right to claim their ancestral land and to deny their right to live as human!
All of you fucken Vietcong will never have peace because you have deny peace to other while you fucken Vietcong continue to lie and lie and more lie to the world community! How many more lie?
God create human in his image and for the Vietcong to destroy God's image is unforgivable and it must be deal with violent and eye for an eye!
No peace to the fucken Vietcong!
What did I tell you all that you can't recognize Yuon or Khmers anymore. This poster 2:49AM used "cdara" then applaud any Khmer who embraces Yuon as a good person? I have my reasons why I hate Yuon. I followed the history since the fall of the empire and
until today. Yuon are too jealous with Khmers and are so obsessed even use Khmer Angkor WAtt as their logo.
Check this out:
http://www.indochinavacation.com/vnguide.htm
http://www.rfa.org/khmer/images/2007/08/22/phone-card200.jpg
Yuon never wanted to kill Khmers? Where did it say that? Of course Yuon have to speak highly about themselves. How many Khmer Krom, Montagnards, and other indigenous people were dragged to be executed without a trace?
None of these posters can answer my question:
Why DID Yuon Ho Chi Minh CREATE
"The Indochinese Communist Party?"
WHY???????
This party was created by Ho Chi Minh since in 1930's.
"INDOCHINESR COMMUNIST PARTY" Does it not bother anyone of you Khmers at all?
I am not biased, but I have my reasons why I defend HM King Sihanouk. If he was to stand trial which I believe is not going to happen, because all the Kings/Queens in any Kingdom (except during revolutions) are immune from prosecution, I will summon Yuon for a subpoena (only if the trial is at outside Cambodia).
Because Yuon CREATED "INDOCHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY". YUON Were the sources of the destruction of Cambodia until today.
How about Yuon just falsefied the history?
Addition: I am not going to do Yuon a big favor for these Yuon want King Sihanouk dead. I am not going to kill Khmers when Yuon want. There're thousand and thousand Yuon agents with Pol Pot and both factions Pol Pot & Yuon killed Khmers.
Because of these barbarian Yuon killed and destroyed Cambodia since in the past history until today such as dragged Khmer Monk from his own country to sit in jail.
Who knows these arrogant, racist, facist Yuon do to Khmer Monks in jail? Those names we hear and know about, but how about many KK we have never heard that Yuon killed?
Again, I have my reasons why I hate Yuon.
Reasoning is not something accessible for the fanatic type, psychotic and psychorigid. No matter the evidence and reason, this type of people perceives to believe only they want to believe. Rigid, mean, malicious, intimidating, determination, .. those are few words to descript this kind of psychotic .
How can people can be hate yuon while he/she serve yuon institution (sihnouk/royalism)? This type of people “hate” yuon, are not different from the Khmer rouge hate yuon because the Khmer rouge always said, they hated yuon while this group is yuon’s fundament, yuon institution and always serve yuon interest, obey to yuon’s wills. May be the word hate that is different, it is only yuon/khmer rouge political game because normally Khmers don’t hate yuons but just against Yuons crime, it is yuons who hate Khmers and other people around because yuons always led terrify genocide policy against other people who are not theirs.
cda
Putoise my ass, I come here awhile back to see some damn as slur provided by this ass lainsy crep. I never seen so many kuk talking together on the same tail. You are so right mat, there are too much khmer rouge, yan haters here. My ass I wanna test my new balls with these kuk here, mostly with the one da mr ya bitch historian sopheab boros from ny. as u, my mats, so son in law of our pm, met this man few times online, my mats and I just come to chase after some kuk and see khmer porno online show from usa, these girls are damn hell eating my guts. I first heard talking about this man because he had big mouth and acted as if he knows althing, even our high placed officers, ta hoc, ta hor, ta chan, ta noun, ta rith.. etc, he is also being played as cia agent, my ass. I know this man is useful for us org while our tata or high pups come to visit usa, more important of al, he is used as our rada to control oversea khmer activities, these man get all information we need, efficient and less cost. But this man is really a 8 heads viper, drink water from our hand, eating from plat but dare to betray us nis min khaeunh kbas mchous min klaach. This man do anything to show us that he is 200% with us and will be with us whetever but a niss, mdang slur us party, mdang slur yauk, mdang slur sj, mdong slur lainsy, while he is with opposition group, a niss jee us party, while he is with us, he become so obeying dog and slur those who are against our government, some mats told me he even posted some documents in some khmer forums to prove americans who paid him and read in the forums that he worked for them but in reality, I don’t think he is, for this man, all is about game, scam and cheat. I tell my org und tata about this, I damn lost my patience with this guy but they told me that, it is his role to play multiple faces to mystify his real secret role in our rank etc and as long as he is expert of chasing after those kuk yauk haters and over khmer oversea activities, we are done with this guy, nothing to lose, they said non one can replace him, not big fish but at least big lar, anyway I don’t trust this duk 8 heads viper at all. I sure will ask my mats to bork sbaerk muk a muy nis jang deng tha muk a muy nis yong meech daer and first of all, I really want to know who this monkey is really working for, yaukang, cham, chinn, akaing, akuk, a laingsy or something else
* sik, i will leave for awhile mat, see ya
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