Wednesday, September 19, 2007
The Associated Press
"We provide him with the best services we can" - Reach Sambath, ECCC spokesmanPHNOM PENH, Cambodia: The top Khmer Rouge suspect awaiting trial before a U.N.-backed genocide tribunal will get cable TV and regular visits from doctors while in detention — amenities out of reach for most impoverished Cambodians.
"Four Cambodian doctors, five nurses and one ambulance are also available for round-the-clock services for both men (Nuon Chea and Kaing Kek Ieu)."
Former Khmer Rouge ideologist Nuon Chea — who is 82 and in declining health from an earlier stroke — was arrested Wednesday in the northwestern Cambodia and flown to the capital, Phnom Penh, where he was formally charged with crimes against humanity before the tribunal.
Nuon Chea spent his first night in a detention cell at the tribunal headquarters on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, tribunal spokesman Reach Sambath said Thursday.
"We have been informed by medical doctors and detention guards that he is in good spirits. He is in good health for an elderly person," he said. "We provide him with the best services we can," he said, adding that it was important to keep Nuon Chea healthy so that he can face trial.
The tribunal is investigating abuses committed when the communist Khmer Rouge held power in 1975-79. The Khmer Rouge's radical policies have been blamed for the deaths of 1.7 million of their countrymen from starvation, ill health, overwork and execution.
The tribunal said in a statement late Wednesday that panel judges put Nuon Chea in "provisional detention" after charging him "for crimes against humanity and war crimes."
Nuon Chea has consistently denied any responsibility for the regime's mass brutality, though he has said he was ready to face the tribunal. He made no comments upon his arrest Wednesday, but his son indicated that Nuon Chea would cooperate with the panel.
"My father is happy to shed light on the Khmer Rouge regime for the world and people to understand," Nuon Say said.
Nuon Chea joined the Khmer Rouge in the 1950s in its formative stages as the country's underground communist party, later becoming its chief political ideologue and right-hand man to Pol Pot.
Nuon Chea is the second, and highest-ranking, Khmer Rouge leader detained to appear before the panel.
Kaing Guek Eav, also known as Duch, who headed the former Khmer Rouge S-21 torture center, was charged on July 31 with crimes against humanity. Prosecutors have recommended three other suspects for trial, but have not named them publicly.
Duch has told Cambodian government investigators that Nuon Chea had "direct command" over S-21, where many purged communist cadre were detained, tortured and executed.
Reach Sambath declined to say how far Nuon Chea is being held from Duch, but said that his cell — like Duch's — is equipped with a cable television and a radio.
Nuon Chea has previously told journalists he spends most of his time listening to radio news or watching English football including his favorite team Liverpool.
He said Nuon Chea will be given three high-calorie meals a day to ensure he stays healthy. Four Cambodian doctors, five nurses and one ambulance are also available for round-the-clock services for both men.
"Even Cambodian people in general do not get the kind of services they are getting," Reach Sambath said of the two inmates. "But we want them to live as long as possible so that they can defend themselves and confront with the law."
Pol Pot died in 1998 and his former military chief, Ta Mok, died in 2006 in government custody. Nuon Chea's senior-level colleagues — Ieng Sary, the former foreign minister, and Khieu Samphan, the former head of state — live freely in Cambodia but are in declining health. They are also widely believed to be on the prosecutors' list.
Trials are expected to begin early next year.
38 comments:
Wow ... my family died of starvation, didn't get a single grain of rice to eat, which was ship mostly to China during the darkest years.
And Nuon Chea gets 3 well balanced meals and cable TV ... makes you think what happen to the justice there, and has the inhumane deaths that occurred on our Khmer brothers and sisters during the Khmer Rouge being over-looked?
Have a good appitite and a nice dream, brother number 2!
You will know for sure what happens to the mind of those in jail that old time.
what boggling mind all these days is the guy " duch ". He looks vietnamese. Don't anyone here agreed ?
8:10 refrain from placing indirect judgement on other nations through you immature comments. Who ever is responsible it will be shown soon.
It is immature also to say you want justice then you say you want to starve the defendant. What, do you want justice from a ghost? These guy aren't going to live that much longer. While we still have them,they are ironically a living history. Cambodian needs justice from them by learning as much as they can from their mysterious operations and crime.
Enjoy your meal and nice medical check up. It won't last too long. But enjoy!
This is a payback times for Uncle SAM! Luxury or not!
Uncle SAM remembered how the Khmer Vietminh or the Khmer Rouge team up with the Vietcong to kill American soldiers.
Uncle SAM remembered how he was cheated out by King Sihanouk for building Cambodian National Road #4 with intention to use to fight the Vietcong.
Uncle SAM remembered how he used and supported the Khmer Rouge in 1980 to fight the Vietcong aggression.
Uncle SAM doesn’t forget when he withdraws his troop from Vietname War and now it is payback time!
It doesn't matter now. He is in jail, can't see his grand children, unless they spend money travelling to see him. Freedom is more important than services. 9:31pm is a mature person. We need more people like you... Thanks. USA.
Can't please the world, everyone enjoys to express his opions. Just to keep this old defendent alive so to get his testimony, these gangs get too excited. If this old man #2 treated badly these gang posters would say "Oh they wanted to kill him before he testifies, they tried to cover up.."
This KRT is not going to be fair but you stupidoo asked for it, you get one. The KRT can only be fair if it is not inside Cambodia.
we need a trial like this to bring out the un-spoke of truth. for example, when sihanouk was underpressure recently. He spoke. We khmer need everyone to speak about our history. until then, there is no resolution.
Khmer people want justice and hope to learn more about the truth and who is really behind the mastermind. we don't want speculation.
we need to learn from this so there will be history book and that subject will be taught in school. If the vietnamese is really behind khmer rouge, we want it to be in the book and them vietnamese responsible. Even if so is hun sen.
too many victims and indirect victim who today are still suffering from the past. everyone responsible need to be reveal.
I hope to see the successful of the trial so if the vietcong is involve that they will be brought to attention. so that these cunning vietcong won't think that they got away scott free.
anyway, justice and freedom is not free and not without a price. no demand, no justice.
I suspected some of these posters may be Yuon Communists.
Why do they want the trial in Cambodia and under Vietnam/CPP?
Where is the UN troop?
Read this dumbo 11;21 PM wrote:
"I hope to see the successful of the trial so if the vietcong is involve that they will be brought to attention. so that these cunning vietcong won't think that they got away scott free."
The KRT organized by Viet/CPP and how this dumbo expect to get vietcong involved? Viecong were teh one who created it, they were with KR fought against US and Lon Nol inside Cambodia, and the KR leaders said the Vietcong never left. That's why the killing started to be so progressive between them.
If the current government is not CPP/Viet but another independent party like SRP it may be somehow at least fair, or otherwise it has to be at outside of Cambodia.
I do believe there is a big country right behind the Khmer rouge regime. But
it's so obvious that the main problem is our own People, Khmer people, who see each other as an enemy and start killing. We don’t need to blame anther country to responsible for. If we are patriot enough to our nation and people, there is no such powerful country in the world force you to mass murder our own people.
Hor Nam Hong, Hok Lundy,...were all KHMER ROUGH, but Viet Cong Agents. Why don't we see those KHMER ROUGH of Viet Cong Side get ARRESTED?
Yes When DID the VIET CONG TROOPS that HELPED KHMER ROUGH TO FIGHT US & LON NOL LEAVE CAMBODIA?
Ask NOUN CHEA When did Viet Cong Leave Cambodia after they helped them to fight the uS & Lon Nol?
Read this Dumboo 11:35PM wrote "If we are patriot enough to our nation and people, there is no such powerful country in the world force you to mass murder our own people."
How are you going to answer 11:38 PM's question?
Vietcong helped KR to fight the US & Lon Nol, and when did they leave Cambodia? So how patriot would you be if you were one of the KR and Viet Cong were with you and thousand of them like Hok Lundy and Hor Nam Hong?
This powerful question and it is legitimate question "When did the Viet Minh/Cong leave after they created/helped the Khmer Rouge to fight against the US & Lon Nol?
Did they leave the same as they do now in XKhmer Rouge Hun Sen?
I have no doubt it that the Viet Cong/Minh Troops did not leave Cambodia during Khmer Rouge regime after they helped them, they still controlled over them the same as they do to Hun Sen.
That was why the Khmer Rouge broke up to TWO Factions: One is with China and one is Vietnam. Since the Vietcong were all over in Cambodia already and China troops were not in Cambodia, the two factiosn became paranoid so the killings were becoming so progressive, King Sihanouk on China side was put under house arrested by the Viet faction, but... He was freed by China faction run all the way to China. The story of Pol Pot invasion of Vietnam came and then Viet Cong showed their real faces from Vietnam while their agents were already inside Cambodia.
Viet Cong/Minh never LEFT Cambodia even in Khmer Rouge Regime and now.
Right after they won over the US and Lon Nol, they immediately emptied the city. That was called EXTERMINATION of Khmer Race.
To 12:01AM
I agree! The Vietcong never left Cambodia and that is why there are two factions of Khmer Rouge!
This is the very reason why the Khmer Rouge killed each other for power!
To12:01AM Your history 's record most of them all the way are accurate ,but I oppose you on your last line was Vietcong/minh never LEFT Cambodia...........
Right after they won over...............immediately emptied the city. Please take a look on www.utube.com Cambodia.Sihaknouk&Vietcong(6 of 7) and Sihaknouk &Paris Math May 1975(KI Media) so you will find out whose is the head of emptiness the Cambodia city,anyway you are good with that I am agree with you,and after you watch that documentation you will hear the life voices and the telegraph record from 1975 who plan that genocide will show right there.
Thank you
I don't go with youtube or papers you collected from human created, but I ask the logical question. The troops of Viet Cong/Minh created KR then helped Khmer Rouge to kick the US and Lon Nol out of Cambodia so WHEN did the troops of Viet Cong/Minh LEAVE Cambodia? WHEN? They took Cambodia in 4/17/1975 and they promptly emptied the whole capital and cities. The Viet Cong troops cannot possibly have left right away. If some left don't you think they had some stayed to help their puppets (KR)? If they lefy right away then what were the purposes of creating the Indochinese Communist Party?
My equation shows that the emptiness of the capital and cities were the retaliation towartd the rich and intellectual people and to exterminate them at the same time. Exterminating the intellectuals was the priority strategy for every enemy such as Nation vs. Nation only but not within the same race, not all.
Some time the books don't write all, and if you go by your books or by the politicians said, you will leave the facts embeded in the black hole which I just posed the question to you.
it is very important that we Khmers know how to ask the questions and know how to apply the right equations rather than relying on others. Your youtube and/or papers don't show this black hole we cannot see, but it exists.
Youtube and papers are al propaganda by Viet Cong against King Sihanouk. The politicians would say everything to feed their political views or need. Just because Bush said the WMD existed in Iraq and it was not found does not mean it did exist. How could anyone find the WMD if Bush has too many enemies? Who knows if Iran or China or Russia evacuated the WMD so to make Bush look stupid?
Jus because what King Sihanouk said does not mean his political views pleased the Viet Cong. They both are always enemy and shook hands were just a show.
Just because Bush said the WMD existed in Iraq and it was not found does not mean it did NOT exist
Those Youtube benefit to Viet Cong a great deal to show the whole world that they Viet Cong are good and King Sihanouk was the one who killed his own people. Some voice on radio said that was King Sihanouk's voice calling people to get killed? I have to admit that Viet Cong are good in voice dizitizing techniques. They killed million Khmers and keep washing their hand with Khmer blood; now they cannot answer us WHEN did they leave Cambodia after they helped Khmer Rouge to kick the US and Lon Nol out of Cambodia?
Those Youtube and papers are all propaganda to benefit Viet Cong only. They made a film Forest Gump shaking hand with President Kennedy, but it did not mean Tom Hanks (Forest Gump)really shook ahnd with President Keneny.
Whatever those Youtube or papers showed or King Sihanouk said, still we all must know WHEN did the Viet Cong Troops LEAVE after they defeated the US and Lon Nol?
12:48 PM I know that you will support your comment al the way ,I understand that your comment are very useful for Cambodian PPL but not for the UN court,now it 21 century and it turn to be hearsay they are not going to work,the court languages they need the black and white(paper trail) and pictures it has thousand words ,I know you worked hard for your document but I do not want you to lose your debate for your client in the court if you are the the Lawyer because ,because it sound serious to be true.
Ahah! do not feel offended if my observation it ignorance but remember one thing black and white in the international court.
This is not hearsay information as you try to avoid it. It is the question based on the events took place in Cambodia.
The true is not with your youtube and papers wrote and some by propagandizers you collected. This question is very legitimate and it can be allowed to cross examination. The question based on the event is not a heresay, you need to get it straight. Why is this legitimate question cannot be used in UN court or any court? Who says so? What are you saying? 21 first century cannot ask the question based on the events or based on what may have happened between the Viet Cong helped Khmer Rouge whille they both fought to kick the US and Lon Nol out of Cambodia? This question is a black and white, because the two Viet Cong helped the Khmer Rouge to fight the US and Lon Nol, so when did they leave? How do you know these witnesses such as Noun Chea will not support the question I asked?
So what side are you on? With the real killers or with the victims?
If you are with the killers, you attempt to belittle this legitimate question is well served, but if you are on the victim side, you are entitled to ask the question, because you want to know every detail of the killings. Don't predict the witness's testimony, because you are not on trial, but Nuon Chea and his comrades are.
FYI: This KRT is not under UN it is under CPP/Viet supervision. Just recently Hun Sen threatned to terminate the trial, does it not tell you something? The UN is only witness that KRT is moving; but whether or not this KRT is going to be terminated the UN is still the UN.
The Viet Cong troop helped the Khmer Rouge to fight against the American and Lon Nol, then the Viet Cong and their puppet Khmer Rouge reached the victory on April 17, 1975. Then one or 2 days later they emptied the Capital and all cities.
When did the Viet Cong troops leave Cambodia?
Why is this question becoming a hearsay? This person does not even understand what does it mean "Hearsay" or "Question"?
2:48PM It doesn't matter you try to paint me as you wanted, But one thing you have to remember if Seihaknouk,Noun Chea,Khiev Somphan,Ing Sary and Hun Sen not admit the cause of genocide in Cambodia how can you and I fighting each others for ? Nuon Chea have said he not going to say because we are still poor and they donated us? and Seihaknouk doesn't want to give up his immunity and another is that court not going to be fair for him and Hun Sen try to kick that court out now USA put money in to help the UN court . As long as they prolong the trial the old khmer rouge not going to be survived ,whose going to responsible for this killing field? Youn yiekcong like you claim? Common it has been 37 years already the people who knows that is you ,I understand what you mean ,but we have to make KRT understand that,and our Cambodian call you the hero, one thing that you have comment that the KRT under Hun Sen control
I am not going with you.KRT they are from every where around the world, they won't scare that mafia low life Hun Sein I still believe they can do what they want to bring all us a hope ,they won't make fool of them self especially USA if they lose with that Seihaknok accusation they will in hot water,and you know the power of money rite ? they can buy the angels to dance.
Thanks you
You are way off track. Your mind is to nail those Khmers whether you lack of reasoning or not. When I asked the Question "When did the Viet Cong Troop Leave after they fought side by side with Khmer Rouge agaisnt the US and Lon Nol on April 17, 1975?". Did they leave right after their victory or before the Capital was emptied or vice versa?, you then are becoming too paranoid worring that it could drag the Vietnamese in it, and afraid that Noun Chea and his comrades were not convicted.
Just read your response I now realized that you are not what you have claimed you are. Don't waste my time to reply with your incompetency. I hope you are not Cambodian, but if you are, sad for her.
3:45 Pm. Don't worry, your Vietnamese counterpart won't be in KRT, because they are the organizers.
3:45 PM is the same the dumbest Kulen Monorom.
And do not tell the world all of you are born to be ignorance let Yiekcong take over your country free and even Khmer abroad turn their back to Cambodia, I tell you what all of you are idiot you do not know how to fight with your brain ,you only know how to use your rice power,you are not make any references from the frog from a little pool,when you are crazy you just get the knife and chasing people try to stab them,the knife just for killing chicken today they use hi-tech, and they just put their ass in USA and their missile could target and kill Sadam'son in Iraq easily
so with your little brain you will make yiekcong getting dirty with your mud ? you can't even kick hun Sen out of the ring how can you want to beat the crap out of yiekcong, I am on you site but if you still stupid do not know how to fight ,you can take all our beloved to fight with youn you have never won, so please put your ass down rethink again to save the country because not me gonna fuck up you are all over there are fucking up.
No one can save your life if you do not know how save your own.
Thank you
1:33 AM. No 3:45 PM is not the same dumbest Kulen Monorom, but he is one from the old school who thinks himself he know everything.
We don't need this kind of clueless who thinks he can fight Viet Cong by going after the King knowing that Viet Cong have never left Cambodia since in 4/17/1975.
You can see this one is very stubborn and still believes he knows all from his Yuotube and papers. When I asked "Did Viet Cong leave Cambodia after they helped KR to kick the US and Lon Nol out?"
No answer, but persisting to persecute our King.
Man I tell you these people are clueless.
10:30AM Who invited youn in Cambodia in the 60 and 70 so why don't you ask your old king? By supporting king=yiekcong lover=supporting Hun Sen=Cambodian treason,so by invited youn yiekcong in Seihaknouk must has been know when is youn leaving? By keeping his mouth shut and mumble,it mean he still hiding youn in Cambodia and you are supporting Seihaknouk it mean you are the youn ,it doesn't matter you have Cambodian blood but you are serving and benefitting to the youn you might condemning as the treason, so after Seihaknouk has his neck hung you are the next because you are Cambodian but you got virus from Viet it doesn't matter you and your king should be executed ,we are still have 13,999,998 Cambodian to go. Go to hell Cambodian treason!
Com on' Sore looser 6;51 PM. Those 13999998 are not with you, you are in hell alone sore looser.
No wonder you aren't a politician, b/c of you stupidity.
Don't you touch our King we will burn you alive. Stop breaking up Khmers for ah Yiek Cong.
Get a life, your time is up. You cannot help Cambodia let alone you can help your self.
We're trying to rebuild our country little by little but there ia always sore loosers like you and psycho kulen monorom disrupt it. You need to shut up once and for all.
This dog 6:51 PM keeps barking. Don't worry mate this sore looser going to hang him self pretty soon.
9;20AM and 6;51 PM your mother took some wrong pill while gave birth to you ,why you so messed up I'm telling you what it doesn't matters the doctors from French or US can't accept you both as their patients because you loco since you were in your mother belly, now you try to spread contagious of your disease all over the room? I tell you both,if I and Koulen become to be one of your leaders ,Cambodia is the batter place to live ,because I believe our human has the right to press their concern for their country,not born to be monkeys put the king toilet paper on the head ,breath from the dust of king feet,how low lives you guy are? while the whole world start seeing you are stupid and we straight you up in the right way ,you still yelling with the king 's toilet paper on your head that your rotten old king is the best,let me has some time to through up cuz I can't hold that naughty of your comment, and find out your own life, I have one so the best advise for your both find the sergeant to replace your brain now,and tell them you want the ape's brain this time ,because the monkeys people said it not good. And take some more pills,oops by the way find the new pairs of your eyes glasses,because while the world seeing Seihaknouk is create genocide in Cambodia you say your king just the killer, hey those two idiots one last advise hug your king ass so hard and smell it while he is farting how the smell? and take all your supporters to beat the crap out of Hun Shit not me and Kulen because we just the Cambodia lover.
Thanks you both
Go on keep barking psychopath 10:16 AM. Just read your crazy comments, you deserve to stay as a dog. HAHA.. man, any psycho Dr. around to treat you huh?
I come to think that you are not human but ah Preit.
3;03Pm I'm not just only barking I bite it too ,especially the ignorance ,low life and shit talker like you,I have known for sure if you are the real educated people your comments were well respect ,but this is just the junk I tell you what I have never shit mouth to any body except stupid like you,no wonder slapped on your mom face while you were born,because the doctor said why you give birth to the retarded kid?that is you, Please learn how to be nice with people in return of respect.
Thanks you
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correction the doctor slapped.6;45PM
Yeahh keep barking and biting, psycho.
Don't ask me to respect, you don't deserve it. I don't claimed to be educated BS and I don't care you are shitt in the toilet, get it?
I'm not here to get a respect from any psycho like you Bull shit.
Since you are ignorance and then you need any of respect I know for sure that your mother fucker is low live have never gone in school before that to have shame on you that Cambodia do not have enough school for you to study,but any way the jerk like you,none of any school can keep you ,only gangsters school can have people like you, go to get some life mother fucker and go to fuck some where else 4:31AM do not so stupid the way you are right now shame on me too because I'm from Cambodia but I am not retarded like 4:31AM
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