Sunday, November 18, 2007
The Associated Press
"Khieu Samphan alleges that Cambodia's social ills and injustices today are comparable to those under a U.S.-backed 1970-75 government, rife with corruption and misrule, that 'the Khmer Rouge crushed' to come to power."PHNOM PENH, Cambodia: Former Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot was a patriot concerned about social justice and fighting foreign enemies, the regime's ex-head of state says in a new book, dismissing claims the group was responsible for the deaths of 1.7 million Cambodians.
Khieu Samphan also denied that the Khmer Rouge had a policy of starving people or had ordered mass killings during its 1970s rule, but added that Pol Pot was responsible for all its policies, right or wrong.
The book, "Reflection on Cambodian History Up to the Era of Democratic Kampuchea," offers a possible preview of what Khieu Samphan might offer as a defense if, as is expected, he is charged soon by Cambodia's U.N.-backed genocide tribunal. Democratic Kampuchea was the country's name under Khmer Rouge rule.
Most historians and researchers believe the radical policies of the Khmer Rouge, which sought a utopian communist state, led to the deaths of at least 1.7 million Cambodians through starvation, disease, overwork and execution.
Evidence in the form of documents and survivors' testimonies, as well as mass graves found throughout the country, is abundant. The society was in a shambles when a Vietnamese invasion ousted the 1975-79 Khmer Rouge regime.
Khieu Samphan, however, says the Khmer Rouge was resilient "in the struggle to defend national sovereignty, (and) in demanding social justice."
"There was no policy of starving people. Nor was there any direction set out for carrying out mass killings," he writes. "There was always close consideration of the people's well-being."
After seizing power in April 1975 after a bloody civil war, one of the group's first moves was to evacuate the 3 million residents of the capital, Phnom Penh, with just hours' notice and no provision for transporting them to the countryside. Those who survived the arduous trek were forced to work in giant rural communes.
Khieu Samphan said the action was necessary to keep the Khmer Rouge revolution clean of foreign infiltrators, especially from its archenemy Vietnam. The communist government of Vietnam had in fact helped build and arm the Khmer Rouge, and attacked them only after massacres of Vietnamese civilians along their common border.
"Coercion was also needed" in making the entire population work "exhaustingly" to address food shortages facing Cambodia following the end of the civil war, Khieu Samphan says.
While historians agree that the country faced a food shortage at the time, the Khmer Rouge refused most foreign offers of food aid, its communes were inefficient at production, and there was no distribution network for what was grown.
Khieu Samphan portrays Pol Pot as a leader who "sacrificed his entire life ... to defend national sovereignty."
At the same time, he assigns Pol Pot responsibility for the group's polices, and says he was involved in the purges of any Khmer Rouge suspected to be disloyal or spies, claiming they probably only numbered in the hundreds.
Youk Chhang, director of the Documentation Center of Cambodia, an independent group researching Khmer Rouge crimes, dismissed the book as "an old story of denial that contributes nothing new to shed the light on what happened" during the group's rule.
Four of Khieu Samphan's former colleagues have been charged by the genocide tribunal this year, and their trials are expected to begin in 2008.
Khieu Samphan, 76, is also expected to be charged. He was hospitalized last Wednesday in Phnom Penh after suffering a stroke and being flown from his home in Pailin in northwestern Cambodia by a helicopter dispatched by Prime Minister Hun Sen.
The most surprising passages of the book criticize the current regime, which allowed Khieu Samphan to live freely after he surrendered in 1998.
Khieu Samphan alleges that Cambodia's social ills and injustices today are comparable to those under a U.S.-backed 1970-75 government, rife with corruption and misrule, that "the Khmer Rouge crushed" to come to power.
"Now such a regime is gradually re-emerging in Cambodia," Khieu Samphan says, listing the problems of land grabbing by the rich and powerful, illegal logging, drugs, decadent nightlife and "widespread corruption throughout the country."
"Government officials, military officers, the rich, indulge themselves with excessive spending," Khieu Samphan writes. "Clearly, if the present situation continues, our country will unavoidably see its own dissolution."
Information Minister Khieu Kanharith, who is the government spokesman, could not immediately be reached for comment.
33 comments:
Don't let him die naturally, hang this motherfucker now.
I agree with Khieu Samphan!
then hang this mother fucker too
I am really disgusted to see the face of Doctor chamkuot lilea which has brought Cambodia into hell. Ah Chkuot chrouk Khiev Samphann.
This a member of Chon deracharnn who is an offspring of a chon antheapeal. Puok Derachhan tried to destroy the happiness of others. Chon Antheapeal are those who are also anti-human social development
Fuck your mother 1am, 2.17am and 2.21am. Three of you should be hang like Saddam.Don't understand Cambodia politice and pretend to know. Ah youn slave.Go back to Hanoi.
I think, in order to stop blaming on each other, the ECCC have arrest all former Khmer Rouge by starting from "leader group" and up to the top organization.
Because, most of the killing are at the low level of the organizations or Local government.
That way could be included Hun Sen, Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Keat Chhon, Sok An, Hor Nam Hong, Var Kim Hong....etc...
4:57AM
NAI Ah kaun me kduoy. Be nice. Go and screw your own whore mother.
Hello 6:15AM I support you 100%. Kaun mikaduoy 4:57AM was a chon Derachharn. He knew nothing about Khmer politic. Kaun Michorka choy Khiev Samphann , Michoar kachoy mai ah Chamchout Ieng sary sot te dek cimuoy chke hoeuy teup bangkeut kaun Deracharn dauch niss. Vear Teang orss knea samlap chaet eng heuy chleuy dak Youn deumbei ruoch kluon. Yeung kor meun sralanh yuon dai. Tes nona samlap yeung ta neak nouss.
To 4:57am from 1:00am,2:17am,2:21am
Chos vea yang mech ban chea ah choy mray eng kan choeung ah khmer kroham mless, yi ah kaun mi kduoy nis.
Below is Khmer (Unicode)
យើងត្រូវនាំគ្នាកំចាត់ពួកអាយួន troller ឲ្យចេញអស់ពី "ខេអាយមីឌ៉្យា"៕
អរគុណ
To 4:57am
who are you? Pol Pot? why these KR evils were hiding in Pailin?
why are they in custody now?
Min Ding chea mi choymrayna bangkeuth kaun muok dauch ah chkai Khiev samphann, Ah Chkai Ieng sary ning ah ah Chkai khmer krahoam kruop knea orass niss. Puok miorss niss chbass chi mean barb kamm hoeuy bann chea bangkeut Kaunn Chkai orss niss.
"Khieu Samphan also denied that the Khmer Rouge had a policy of starving people or had ordered mass killings during its 1970s rule"
You keep on prentending what you though good for you and your gang, idiotic. To say this only means that all the Cambodian that time are only " masochist"!
You are so pervers and your perversity has engendered million of victim, idiotic!!!
Watch out Vietnam! Any identification in court of any Vietnamese agent involved in any plot against Democratic Kampuchea would be a bombshell.
Khieu Samphan still has some popular support. His references to Vietnam and border disputes with that country would only increase that support.
His conviction could well turn him into a martyr.
He is a former university teacher of mine and was also my role model in my student days. But, in 1986, in a letter published in Far Eastern Economic Review in Hong Kong, I publicly called for an international trial of the Khmer Rouge, Khieu Samphan and other leaders and cadres included.
LAO Mong Hay, Hong Kong
Hello Dr lao Monh Hay,
Where were you from 1975-1979?
If you believe what Ah Khiev sam phann has said, then you must be another idiot. All of us knew very well about Vietnamese tricks. But these idiot khmer rouge have killed their people worst than our longterm ennemy Vietnam. If they were really compatriot, why they kiled all their innocenses citizen from day 1 when they arrived in the cities. Why they have to kill all Cambodian educated, professional, high skilled people ( Human resourses)?. All their killing were all being done systematically. Why they killed all their own camarades in tuol Sleng? All Khmer rouge authorithies have received their killing instruction from the top to the bottom. No one can accepte these idiots khmer rouge leaders explainations. They keep liar and liar all the time. Areak Prey
Stop asking stupid questions, 9:38. When you changed the government from democracy to communist or vice versa overnight, you have to kill some rebels or be killed by them. Is that too hard for you to comprehend, monkey brain?
The Khmer rouge has set up death traps to kill all their oppositions soon after they have fully controled Cambodia by dividing Cambodia into zones, regions and co-operatives. Each co-operatives have a group of powerfull leaders who have their authorities to make all decisions to all citizen destinies in their co-operative. If anyone has moved from one Co-operative to another, that person will be killed by their old co-operative or by their new co-operative. All Pot Pol administrations have sent their message to the commune level through their network from one level to another level.
They have told their authority that Cambodian should have only one social class to survive, all other classes should be crushed to death and be elimianted from Cambodia in 1978. Their one class ( vannak Kak Sekor) agriculture class be allowed to live. Other classes eg school teacher, merchant, medical professional, factory workers etc,. and etc.. were being killed to eliminate from Cambodia. All factory workers working in Battambang city were all being killed in Tramkorng, Pursat in 1978. At the end of 1978, three hundred thousands of people from Svay Rieng, Prey Veng, were being sent to Pursat and Battambang for execution. People were being killed by hundred and hundred by khmer rouge themselves. They were all instructed by Pol Pot and Khiev Sam Phann to kill them. How can a Leader of Nation can denie all the sufferings of the people under their regime? They must be animals. Areak Prey
Well, when one is serious about removing all classes from Cambodia, they will have to kill many oppositions. Not to do so is stupid, get it? Furthermore, the KR isn't rich enough to feed no prisoners, thus, they are not in position to keep them. Everyone must work equally to eat equally. They ain't gonna feed you for doing nothing in prison.
The best way to change government is via slow reform, just how China is slowly moving toward democracy; however, I must admit that is it much harder to move from democracy toward communist in the same manner, but I haven't fully thought about it either, to see what the true possibility is.
Areak Prey,
You can hardly write a good sentence of English let alone anything else. You can't see beyond the tip of your nose. You think you are credible?
A retired Cambodian-American
To 10:25Am,
I am writing all of these sentences without checking all the sentences correctly. But I think most people can anyway. May be my english is not your american english. In every day life, I used this universal english for all the time. Sometimes, I found that those who write very english are only designing for school teacher and history writers. Only englsih alone you can get any better life OK. Cambodian proverb goes " Chess Koap puopuok Chruok Ach Chrorlen. Areak Prey
Okay, let's not bickering on language here. It really doesn't matter if the English, French, or Khmer is syntactically or grammatically correct, so long the idea is understood. And if you don't understand the idea just ask the poster to clarify it, okay?
Areak prey !
Don't worry about your English.It's good enough.If anyone can not read it just say:<< Oh ! go to hell and don't come back you bastard >> .
You retired Cambodian-American,
nothing wrong with areak prey writing. you just hate him because you are an ignorant Khmer or a KR and he is not
Come on Mr. Samphan.tell the full story and let the people and the world make the decision who is right and who is wrong, i want to know who is behind all the killing and what other countries involve?!!
At your age you shouldnt be afraid of dieing be brave and accept your mistake.
Well, no one is stopping Kieu Samphan from telling us everything in the trial. All we are saying here is he should check with his lawyer first before saying anything; that is if he know what is good for him.
dear 10:02AM
I just want to let you know that I had met one of the mobile youth armies squad leader was a vietcong that can speak Cambodian fairly but in viet accent and also one of my friend said the same thing that he met another viet mobile group squad in TRAMKOK,CHHOUK of Kampot province.This info maybe considerable help.
To A retired Cambodian-American on disability! Ahahhah
Gee! You wrote only three sentences and here you are criticizing how other people misused the English language? I am sorry to say that you are unqualified to make any judgments! Ahahhahhah
Listen! I know that most Cambodian people put their posting on this website have a second languages other then English! And who are you to judge the way how Cambodian people write the English language? Do you think these people get pay for their writing? Ahahhahh Don't gets me wrong here but I do expect more from the so called professional writers!
Honestly! I really admire and commend those Cambodian people who are trying hard to convey their messages in the English language because the English language is the only medium that Cambodian people will have to work with if they want their writing to be posted on this website! It kind of sad when this is a Cambodian issue and the Cambodian people can't express in their language unless they want to Romanize the Khmer words and even that really confuse me too! Hey! I don't want to be seen as complaining too much here because the English language is the best medium there is when communicating to the world!
So say this to you! Please just try to understand the ideas and concepts what the other person is trying to say even there are some mud and pebble in their writing but since you are such an educated person you can clean it out to see the true writing to understand the ideas and concepts unless you want to be the English teacher! Do you want to be English teacher? Ahahhahhah
For me there are times when I feel guilty about butchering the English language because most people would make judgments that I am English limited or need a course in English as a second language! You know what and I would say fuck to all of them because I had taken the fucken courses and here I am still writing like this! Ahhahhahaahh
Who want to be my English teacher?
The United Nations trial must take the Vietcong double agents into consideration because their aims are as evil as the Khmer Rouge because the Vietcong spies just want to sabotage Cambodia and Cambodian people!
Even Monk Tim Sakhorn couldn’t escape the Vietcong spies’ networks! And he got kidnapped by the Vietcong spies to be judged by the Vietcong court and to be jailed in Vietname!
Hey can you blames us (Vietcong) for being better than CIA?
To 12:57PM! Vietcong mother fucker!
If you want to know how the Vietcong spy better than the CIA and I recommend that you check the following link:
http://www.newsbusters.org/node/12411
I will say again and I will say in the future that nobody understand or know more about the Vietcong than Cambodian people!
Wrong, 1:18, Khmer is not good at spying, and they know very little about it. On the other hand, Ah Khmer-Yuon is good at those things; that is why the Vietcong is keeping a close eye on them.
The Vietcong government never admits that there are Khmer Krom in Vietname and how you say that there is Khmer-Youn in Vietname?
How could you contradict the Vietcong government’s claim? Ahhahah!
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