Hun Sen (L), Sean Pengse (C), and Ear Channa (R)
Left: Vietnamese soldiers (arrow) preventing SMD students from visiting an encroached area in Kampot province. Right: border makers newly installed by Vietnam in the "white zone" of Snuol district, Kratie provinceSunday-Monday 02-03 March 2008
By Sila
Sralanh Khmer newspaper
Translated from Khmer by Heng Soy
Recently, prime minister Hun Sen said in Koh Thom district, Kandal province, that the claim made by those who accuse his government of losing Cambodian lands is tantamount to looking down on the Khmer Nation. However, the Cambodia Watchdog Council International (CWCI) said that Hun Sen’s words are lies to both himself and the Cambodian public.
The Cambodian government deposited maps at the UN in 1955 which indicates that its lands juxtapose with the Vietnamese borders along a length of 1,230 km, the Lao borders along a length of 540 km, and the Thai borders along a length of 804 km. The maritime borders with Vietnam and Thailand extend over a length of 507 km, if measured according to actual border delineation, however, this length is 215 km if measured along straight line.
Civil society, the opposition party and the general public used to criticize the Hun Sen regime which allowed the loss of Cambodian territories, beginning from the 80s when it allowed neighboring countries to move their borders inside Cambodian territories from all directions. However, Hun Sen declared recently that “Based on their propaganda, maybe the current Cambodian borders would be located in Pursat province, and from the east, it would be located at Kampong Chhnang, therefore, the Cambodian borders all disappeared… but Khmer in Koh Thom are witnesses, those who live and are born here in the past, their number still remains the same.”
In response to Hun Sen’s statement regarding the border issue, Ear Channa, the CWCI Secretary-general, said from Norway that, 2 or 3 years ago, he visited the areas where Cambodia lost its territories. He said that in 2004-2005, while he was the deputy Secretary-general of the Students’ Movement for Democracy (SMD), he performed an visit study tour along the eastern borders, next to Vietnam. The SMD clearly observed the loss of borders which are part of Cambodia’s territorial integrity due to Vietnamese violations, almost everywhere, and in particular in the Phnom Prochiev area, located along the border in Kampot province; in the southern area of the province of Takeo; in the area of Pak Nam in Kandal prince, the entire island of Koh Ta Mao was lost; in Kampong Cham province, several areas were lost; in Snuol, Kratie province, large swath of Cambodian territories were lost, therefore, the claim made by Hun Sen saying that Cambodia did not lose any territory is nothing but a lie to deceive not only to himself, but also the entire Cambodian public.
Ear Channa confirmed that his group visited Cambodian victims living along the borders who lost their lands due to Vietnamese aggression, and he said that his group of students visited those areas several times, each time with a group of 50 to 80 students. However, the armed Vietnamese border guards always prevented the students from entering the areas lost by Cambodia, and they were also forbidden from taking pictures showing the truth in these areas as well.
Mr. Sean Pengse, President of the Paris-based Cambodia’s Border Committee, said that in the Cambodian maps deposited that the UN in 1955, there was no indication of so-called “white zones” (disputed border areas). The “white zones” issues raised by the neighboring countries are nothing more than a prevention to stop Cambodian people from entering these special zones along the border. These “white zones” were created stemming from the successive agreements signed by Hun Sen’s regime with neighboring countries, in particular, the border treaties with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam in 1979, 1982-1983, 1985, and more recently in 2005.
Mr. Sean Pengse declared that these white zones are lost territories as far as Cambodia is concerned, because Vietnam and Thailand can do whatever they want in these zones, but Cambodia cannot. Therefore, these are loss territories, and the most blatant case is the Ta Moan Temple which belonged to Cambodia in the past, and it was recognized as such by local people living there, but nowadays, when Thailand proceeds to repair this temple, Cambodia does not even dare say anything at all. Furthermore, Thailand decided that a border road is the borderline, whereas during the French protectorate era, this road belonged to Cambodia, and now Cambodia is not allowed to touch this road at all, therefore, this territory is lost. He said that based on his study, Vietnam encroaches about 40 square-km into Cambodia in the province of Ratanakiri.
Mr. Sean Pengse, the former Minister of Industry, Mining, and Energy of the Khmer Republic regime, claimed that because of Hun Sen’s treaties with neighboring countries, Cambodia also lost a large extent of its maritime territories. Mr. Sean Pengse said: “Cambodia signed a recognition of the border treaty in 1982, and this led to the loss of 30,000-square-km (of our seas), Cambodia also recognized that the Krachak Ses and Koh Tral (Phu Quoc) Islands belong to Vietnam, that was why Vietnam took 10,000-square-km of our seas and turned it into historical waters (to be shared by both countries)… Following the conclusion of the 1982 agreement, Vietnam concluded a treaty with Thailand allowing the latter to occupy about 30,000-square-km of Cambodian seas. Cambodia originally had 95,000-square-km of seas, but Vietnam took away 30,000-square-km, and Thailand took another 30,0000-square-km, so Cambodia is left with about 35,000-square-km of seas only.”
Mr. Sean Pengse calls on Hun Sen’s regime to protect and defend our ancestral territories, and he said that is a good thing that Hun Sen claimed that he can protect our lands, however, Hun Sen’s government should also protect the land and maritime territories as prescribed by the maps deposited by Cambodia at the UN in 1955 as well. Otherwise, Cambodia will surely lose its lands, and those losses can be blamed on Hun Sen’s conclusions of agreements with neighboring countries starting from 1979 and extending until 2005.
The Cambodian government deposited maps at the UN in 1955 which indicates that its lands juxtapose with the Vietnamese borders along a length of 1,230 km, the Lao borders along a length of 540 km, and the Thai borders along a length of 804 km. The maritime borders with Vietnam and Thailand extend over a length of 507 km, if measured according to actual border delineation, however, this length is 215 km if measured along straight line.
Civil society, the opposition party and the general public used to criticize the Hun Sen regime which allowed the loss of Cambodian territories, beginning from the 80s when it allowed neighboring countries to move their borders inside Cambodian territories from all directions. However, Hun Sen declared recently that “Based on their propaganda, maybe the current Cambodian borders would be located in Pursat province, and from the east, it would be located at Kampong Chhnang, therefore, the Cambodian borders all disappeared… but Khmer in Koh Thom are witnesses, those who live and are born here in the past, their number still remains the same.”
In response to Hun Sen’s statement regarding the border issue, Ear Channa, the CWCI Secretary-general, said from Norway that, 2 or 3 years ago, he visited the areas where Cambodia lost its territories. He said that in 2004-2005, while he was the deputy Secretary-general of the Students’ Movement for Democracy (SMD), he performed an visit study tour along the eastern borders, next to Vietnam. The SMD clearly observed the loss of borders which are part of Cambodia’s territorial integrity due to Vietnamese violations, almost everywhere, and in particular in the Phnom Prochiev area, located along the border in Kampot province; in the southern area of the province of Takeo; in the area of Pak Nam in Kandal prince, the entire island of Koh Ta Mao was lost; in Kampong Cham province, several areas were lost; in Snuol, Kratie province, large swath of Cambodian territories were lost, therefore, the claim made by Hun Sen saying that Cambodia did not lose any territory is nothing but a lie to deceive not only to himself, but also the entire Cambodian public.
Ear Channa confirmed that his group visited Cambodian victims living along the borders who lost their lands due to Vietnamese aggression, and he said that his group of students visited those areas several times, each time with a group of 50 to 80 students. However, the armed Vietnamese border guards always prevented the students from entering the areas lost by Cambodia, and they were also forbidden from taking pictures showing the truth in these areas as well.
Mr. Sean Pengse, President of the Paris-based Cambodia’s Border Committee, said that in the Cambodian maps deposited that the UN in 1955, there was no indication of so-called “white zones” (disputed border areas). The “white zones” issues raised by the neighboring countries are nothing more than a prevention to stop Cambodian people from entering these special zones along the border. These “white zones” were created stemming from the successive agreements signed by Hun Sen’s regime with neighboring countries, in particular, the border treaties with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam in 1979, 1982-1983, 1985, and more recently in 2005.
Mr. Sean Pengse declared that these white zones are lost territories as far as Cambodia is concerned, because Vietnam and Thailand can do whatever they want in these zones, but Cambodia cannot. Therefore, these are loss territories, and the most blatant case is the Ta Moan Temple which belonged to Cambodia in the past, and it was recognized as such by local people living there, but nowadays, when Thailand proceeds to repair this temple, Cambodia does not even dare say anything at all. Furthermore, Thailand decided that a border road is the borderline, whereas during the French protectorate era, this road belonged to Cambodia, and now Cambodia is not allowed to touch this road at all, therefore, this territory is lost. He said that based on his study, Vietnam encroaches about 40 square-km into Cambodia in the province of Ratanakiri.
Mr. Sean Pengse, the former Minister of Industry, Mining, and Energy of the Khmer Republic regime, claimed that because of Hun Sen’s treaties with neighboring countries, Cambodia also lost a large extent of its maritime territories. Mr. Sean Pengse said: “Cambodia signed a recognition of the border treaty in 1982, and this led to the loss of 30,000-square-km (of our seas), Cambodia also recognized that the Krachak Ses and Koh Tral (Phu Quoc) Islands belong to Vietnam, that was why Vietnam took 10,000-square-km of our seas and turned it into historical waters (to be shared by both countries)… Following the conclusion of the 1982 agreement, Vietnam concluded a treaty with Thailand allowing the latter to occupy about 30,000-square-km of Cambodian seas. Cambodia originally had 95,000-square-km of seas, but Vietnam took away 30,000-square-km, and Thailand took another 30,0000-square-km, so Cambodia is left with about 35,000-square-km of seas only.”
Mr. Sean Pengse calls on Hun Sen’s regime to protect and defend our ancestral territories, and he said that is a good thing that Hun Sen claimed that he can protect our lands, however, Hun Sen’s government should also protect the land and maritime territories as prescribed by the maps deposited by Cambodia at the UN in 1955 as well. Otherwise, Cambodia will surely lose its lands, and those losses can be blamed on Hun Sen’s conclusions of agreements with neighboring countries starting from 1979 and extending until 2005.
39 comments:
Enough is enough. Where is a sniper when you need one. It's time to eliminate this disgusting rat.
There are plenty of sniper on Planet of the Ape. Go and don't come back, will ya?
any true Khmer son and daughter would feel sad and wanted to cry when we see and read something like this. those who denied about border encroachments are heartless. look at the pictures and seeing the newly and freshly marked borderlines made by vietnam, for a true khmer son, one must feel so sad. i almost cry.
Hey, people cried in Hollywood movies too.
Correction: I mean people cried watching Hollywood movie too.
As a neutral observer what bothers me most is that all those allegations about the loss of territory today are made by people living overseas. They determine the loss of so much land by just looking at the border. Have they ever heard of surveys? Naturally, this Sean Pengse has an ax to grind so his views can hardly be deemed objective. He may have been a minister before 1975 so he should know that everything that happened after that wasn't always out of Cambodia's free will. The Khmer Rouge made incursions into Vietnamese and Thai territories themselves, eventually prompting the Vietnamese invasion. 1982 didn't really see an independent Cambodian government, did it? A country that loses a war, and Cambodia did just that against the Vietnamese, always loses something, a lot of times territory. Sean Pengse was a member of government that lost control of their own country and were ousted by Pol Pot. Sihanouk and later Lon Nol are to blame for the subsequent history of Cambodia. Maps are redrawn in history all the time. Sean Pengse lost all rights to speak for Cambodia since he belonged to a government that led Cambodia to its downfall.
These hun sen government brought shame to khmer, and khmer's history.
Khmer people, its not up to these khmer leader. ITs up to all of us and our voices, and Action will only bring justice and truth. To us, our history, and those suffering now in srokhmer and those who suffered during the khmer rouge error.
Let's rise up, for us, history, and future. Let educate each other, younger one and encourage each other.
have a good day everyone.
Now Cambodia territory is shrinking just that much. Hun Sen next term, Cambodia will be as big as the size of a pond in your backyard. Khmer people will look up and all they see are Vietnamese soldiers surrounding that pond and Khmers cannot go beyond it.
No, Cambodia is expanding.
11:16PM
Your comment is absurdly misled. Sean Pangse himself is not a dreamer when he talks about border issue. He has not allegedly been groundless.
His standard survey is the map recognized by international community during 1954.
And his standard survey is the true voice of Cambodian peoples along the border.
But what Hun Sen leadership and your cronies standard survey? As I can observe, Hun Sen leadership has not depended on any international recognition and people voice in the actual land, but he is good to justify for his illegal treaty with his Master during 1980, 83 and 89 etc
Khmer Rouge didn't invade Vietnam. Paranoia Khmer Rouge leaders were stimulated by VN to go into their land in order they can use it as their pretext to invade Cambodia.
KY
Well, if map is a solution to all border dispute, how come the US and most countries around the world still has border dispute?
The truth is the corrupted idiot (Sean Pengse) is just making trouble for everyone because he got nothing better to do. Furthermore, a border settlement with Vietnam mean the robe is cut between Ah Khmer-Yuon and Khmer, and they can't live with that reality. It is time for them to grow up and stop being like a baby. Khmer Leu, has been living with the Thai for centuries, and they don't mind it at all.
Stupid 2:10AM
For the interests of the nation, we should minimize the loss. We should not expect 100% to gain from neighboring countries while we are weaker than them.
In this momentum, we have huge potential to use our recognized map, actual voice of border-peoples, and Khmer Krom issues as our main means to negotiate with VN.
But what you have seen Hun Sen leadership has done; he has only tried to justify his wrong doing to become worse and worse.
We are losing and losing the land to VN because Hun Sen has used supplemental border treaties as his main pretext to negotiate.
Or we can say that under Hun Sen leadership, Cambodia is not independent at all, and the benefit of Cambodian nation has been slip away.
If you are Cambodian man, please use your brain!
KY
Forever as long as the Viet leaders still oppress 10 million Khmer Kampuchea Krom and the psychological of the Khmer people will be destroyed and the Khmer inferior complex will hang over Khmer people head forever because the Khmer Kampuchea Krom issue will always lingering and reminding to all Khmer people as a whole that their race is something to be subjugated and to be oppressed by the Viet! And the Viet will always continue to look down on the Khmer race and see themselves as the victor, the aggressor, and the oppressor and their role is legitimate by the law of nature that is to eliminate the Khmer race from the face of the Earth!
The Khmer border issue is intertwined with Khmer Krom people issue without a doubt and the two can't be separated from each other! I don't know how any Khmer leaders and Khmer people can choose to deal with the Viet leaders and pretend not to know that there are 10 million of their kind live next to them still oppress by the Viet government!
It is very hard to imagine that some Cambodian leaders can choose to deal with the Vietcong without taking their Khmer inferior complex into consideration as if something didn't happen between the Khmer and the Vietcong! But something did happen between the Khmer and the Viet and the Viet still oppress over 10 million Khmer Krom people in Southern Vietname! For any Khmer leaders or people to give in to the Viet oppressor’s demand and the Vietcong will continue to make more demands on the Khmer people because the Viet will always see the Khmer race as something to take advantage of and exploit and something to be subjugated and to be oppressed and to be wipe out from the face of the Earth!
Khmer people have only two choices in solving the border issue with the Viet leaders! One choice to verify the Cambodian boundary by enforcing the Paris Agreement! The second choices are to help the Khmer Krom people struggle for independent nation and it would be much easier to deal with the border issue because now Khmer can deal with Khmer or choose to become one or whatever like the West Germany and the East Germany reunification!
The Vietcong government is exploiting the Khmer inferior complex big time by pushing the Khmer leaders to accept all kind of agreements and treaties such as border treaties and economic agreement because the Vietcong leader felt that the Khmer leaders belong to a group of people who are weak and oppressed and the Khmer leaders are nothing more than little children which need constant supervision and to be led to do anything! So far the Viet leaders have been very successful in dealing with the Khmer leaders and if you have any doubt in what I am saying just take a close look of the current Cambodia government which was installed by the Vietcong government as a puppet government since 1979!
Please don’t tell me you don’t know what a puppet government is!
2:34AM
I understand your inferior thought then think about Khmer Krom. Of course, it is so easy. Khmer Krom Federation and Khmer Krom NGOs have their own clear vision to achieve their mission: to pertain their basic rights, to practice their culture freely, to have access to public services equally, to have been treated fairly in the society, ....etc
We don't see any agenda of KK to separate the land from VN. KK and their group are working correctly according to the international laws.
Cambodian national constitution has recognized Khmer Krom peoples by their Khmer race, not by their territory land; the constitution accelerates and supports the struggle for human rights.
And Cambodian constitution is using the map which is internationally recognized, not include Khmer Krom land.
So it is clear in both KK agenda and Cambodian national constitution.
But what we have seen Hun Sen leadership is undertaking is to manipulate and mix up the situation in Cambodia. His act shows us only the justification that he has to pay back debt or gratitude to his Master.
In case of Khmer Krom monks in Cambodia who has been disrobed and sent to be tried in VN and injailed till nowadays is the evidence of painful act that Khmers have never forgotten. Khmer should not oppress Khmers in order to save other alien nations.
KY
Lost forever is coming to Khmer! Who is cursing Khmer now?
May the ancient Khmer reborn and help us!
Khmer this day are so GREEDY. All of the leaders I see now, no matter Hun Sen and his parties, but SRP, HRP, NRP(Worse) and FUNCIPEC.
Only CHINA can revenge for Cambodia by biting VN land.
Even us who use this forum quite often still fighting each other.
Hope that ASEAN revolution will make it stable.
LOL, 3:17, don't you see the perpetual reincarnation of Khmer people? Look hard, my friend. We are the same people 1000 years ago, dude. Nothing has changed. We still love to fight each other and invite foreigners to help. Really, don't you see it?
Gentlemen
Trying to understand the in depth of this issue.
Would someone care to explain about the map, in particular the current map for demarcation of border.
By the way, would someone care to answer the below question.
[Before reaching the agreement on demarcation of borders with both Thailand and Vietnam]
Is there a map or proposal submit by RGC to the Senate or National Assembly for debate?
Thank you
Everything was done legally and democratically step-by-step and according to our law, Everyone debated, all votes was casted, all signatures from kings and queens was established. And the case was close long ago. Anything else I can help you with?
to 11.16pm,
"all accusations of border encroachments often made by people living overseas?" son chhay, mam sanando, sam rainsy, pang sokhoeun, choup kampuchea, rong chhun, chea mony...... and especially villagers living along the borders who are crying for help because their farms and ricefields have been taken by vietnam everyday. these are all people living inside cambodia. you said you are a neutral person but nothing is neutral in your views. anyway, this is not the point. the point is there are many border encroachments along the borders, viet and thai sides. do you agree that there is any border encroachments?
Dear 5:34 AM
Thank you for your explanation.
The reason for asking "Is there a map or proposal submit by RGC to the Senate or National Assembly for debate?" is because the reasons below:
[many of you out there might not agree to the view and opinion written in this particular column but it is OK because all of us is different in many way from point of view to thought]
1] It is easy for people of Cambodia if not all but a handful [majority of critics are supporters of opposition leader and opposition party itself], to blame the ruling party for many things, in particular this issue.
2] To supporters of opposition party, if 5:34AM comment is right then would you please ask yourself a question "Does this border agreement is in any way against or inferior to the democratic way?"
3] To opposition party, in particular the leader and members who are elected by people to represent them and theirs voice in NA and Senate:
a] be reminded that people have trust in your party and you that you will make the different.
b] Ask yourself a question: do we [opposition] perform effectively in NA?.
c] Though you are not junior member of the RGC who don't currently hold any position in ministries or having any rights to run those ministries but as the opposition party in NA you are part of the RGC as well simply you all are paid from the national budget [national coffer either derived from tax revenue or fund from donors] and and therefore shall take part or full responsibilities and blames for all right and wrong decisions made by the government - can't just point fingers to RGC alone.
Thank you
HUN SEN will sell his home if he has to... That is the kind he is; in fact he is a stray dog.
All those fucked-face people who lost all their conscience over power and money, I hope this border issue will awaken before your bedtime.
What is your point, idiot (8:27)? Everyone will sell their home if they have to.
Yes, 6:56, all maps was submitted in the debate before the voting took place. How can anyone think we debate such issue without maps. We are no gorilla, you know?
As for the vote, we did have some "neh", some "abstain", but a lot of "yeh", Thus, it was passed democratically and fully supported the his Majesty (Sihamony) himself.
Therefore, I reiterate that everything was legally done. And as usual, it is normal to have some people not satisfied with this outcome. I too not satisfied with some of the laws that we passed, but I never made any scene from it because it was passed according to our law. People will have to more mature about these thing. If they don't like the system, change it to something else, but don't act like babies here.
6:37, in order to be "Neutral", you must look at both sides (Cambodia and VN,) not just Cambodia. No international court will look on just Cambodia side, in case you don't know.
In any case, all court will always urged all sides to settle it because the court never like to render a verdict. That is because the winner will be happy, the loser will be sad and lost money, and the court get caught in between. Accordingly, I am sure that the international court would be happy for all of us that we managed to settle this among ourself. I guarantee it.
Dear 9:26
Thank you for your explanation and comment.
It is inevitable for people to be unhappy, not satisfy and say and express their opinion [again everybody is different].
My view here is very simply.
Ruling party, junior partner in government and opposition alike are having duties, responsibilities and obligations for people of Cambodia due to the fact that everybody is in the government - comprising of ruling party, junior partner and opposition party seating in National Assembly and in Senate [If people out there think that opposition party is not part of the government then shall think twice]; therefore opposition party, its members and supporters shall not in any circumstances keep attacking the government, but rather asking opposition party, parliamentarian/law makers from opposition party to look into their performance.
Thank you
Yes, but most of these oppositions are immature and had no experiences in running a country. They are still on a long learning curve, and they are not gaining much experiences with lip services and from constantly trying to screwed the government instead of working with the government to effectively promote businesses for the people in Cambodia. They have been using people suffering to gain their fame. And had they done what they supposed to do, we will be 30-40% better economically because right now only about 50-60% of the government is working for the people and the country.
I don't know about you, mate (10:36), but to me, this is blatantly robing the tax payer money. What is a shame?
Oh well! When AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave was installed by the Vietcong as the leader of Cambodian people at the age of 34 years and no Cambodian people said that AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave is immature and inexperience!
Some of these same stupid Cambodian people forgot that it was because of AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave immature and inexperience that is why Cambodian people inherited many of these fucken problems from the Vietcong and the Thaicong!
Getting a PhD without going to school is very and mature and experience? This is just another Vietcong theory and logic! Ahahahhahahahhahahah!
No, I said it time and time again. It is just that your didn't hear me.
No one had experience in running the country. PM for instance have made some mistakes and learn from it. He have changed a lot since he was elected as PM. The one think I noticed the most is his control of his short temper, LOL. He was a military commander, and I don't know any Khmer commander without short temper. He used to lashed at almost everyone, but now here rarely does that. He's like a different person now, but not without breaking point.
11:51AM
No kidding Hun Sen has learned nothing from the beginning to now. His continual success is not from Hun Sen's ability, but from a very well-organized advisers, you should ask who they are? Not those 1000 advisers (cronies) who are continuing to exploit the national budget and assents. They are well-trained from Hanoi...go and check in cabinet as well as in ministry of interior.
PM Hun Sen's words are incendiary. He needs more education in public speech. Though peoples like to listen his speech, but it doesn't mean his speech is productive and sustainable to Cambodia future politics.
KY
Only people with poor judgement that believe 9:26 AM. This is a tactic, employed by the Vietnamese experts to invade Cambodia. Nowadays, both the King father and his son are doing things to keep its monarchy regime. They are losing all of the respects from Khmer new generation. Their royal family has done a lot of damages to Cambodia, including Sihaknou 's adopted son, Hun Sen. These people are born with brain defects coz they have everything to serve the foreigners, especially Vietnam. 9:26 AM 's explanations are not from Khmer nationalistics, but from a fool, viet Agent.
To 11:51AM
"PM (AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave) for instance has made some mistakes and learns from it."
So are you saying that only your leader AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave mother fucker can mistake and learn from it but not for the opposition officials? I didn't know that AH HUN SEN was such a special human!
Listen fool! Anybody can excel in any environment if given the opportunity to do the fucken job and they will learn on the job and with time they will grow into the job!
I just wish that all Cambodian people were given the same opportunity as AH HUN SEN! But it is too bad that Cambodian people especially women were given a choice either to be a housemaid to clean toilet or street prostitute or Karaoke girl!
By the way it took AH HUN SEN 30 years just to learn how to behavior, to be mature, and to control his temper! Talking about late bloomer! Aahhahhahahahhahah!
No, what I said was opposition had made some mistake and still not learning shit from it. They are still doing the same thing as they did since day one.
KY and the rest of the retarded gorillas:
Everyone of you are full of shit, no wonder your eyes are brown.
To 7:15PM
All human ancestor start out with brown eye including you! Ahahhahah!
Check it out!
http://healthnewsdigest.com/news/Research_270/Where_Your_Blue_Eyes_Came_From.shtml
if this is true that the current was under duress to sign treaties at the expense of cambodia during the early 1980s when cambodia just woke up from the nightmare of pol pot, then a unified, peaceful cambodia of today can not accept such forced treaties back then as it was the neighboring countries was taking full advantage of cambodia without our people's consent; thus that was so illegal and went against the UN charters of nation's rights not to mention the neighboring countries violated cambodia's sovereignty under duress. and all such treaties signed then are considered illegal and should be discarded as such. please push the gov't to use the old maps of the time when cambodia was fully recognized by the entire world community and cambodian citizens had also consent to their leaders for such go ahead. please continue to push for a sound solution from gov't to gov't diplomacy. must remind those gov'ts that they must not take advantage of a weak, dictatorship type of gov't of cambodia back then and now is the time for cambodia to dig through old files and old maps for the reinstatement of old maps in order to perform this task of marking the border. otherwise, cambodia can not accept that it is fair and just at the expense of cambodia.
yes, please call on the gov't to support and use the 1955 maps deposited at the UN as an official agreed upon by all cambodian parties as the legitimate map to use any marking of borders now. otherwise, cambodian people can not accept this. any new treaties signed later on under duress by the vietnam and thai gov't to cambodia is so illegal and should be discarded as such. please continue to push the cambodian gov't use the old maps as this is the only way all parties are agreed to. otherwise, we will have have problem losing our lands to neighboring countries. thanks
PS: that's why cambodia had kept the map at the UN in 1955 because we see that map as a legitimate map of cambodia and should always be that way; so any new, later treaties were considered illegal by us. case closed!
Get real, you idiot, a lot of people kept maps in the UN but in ain't any good when the damned UN is highly corrupted.
The fucken Vietcong is more corrupted than UN that why AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave want to kick the UN out of Cambodia!
The fucken Vietcong and their slaves want an easy way out! Ahahhahahahh!
Well, that just show you how much you know about the real UN. Keep watching the stupid American movies, dude.
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