Thursday, May 15, 2008

The French lawyer of Hor Namhong, a Khmer citizen, threatens to sue Artist Sacrava, an Aussie citizen, which country will have the jurisdiction?

Original letter posted at Sacrava Blog site
Case Breakdown:
  1. David Meas, a French (Franco-Khmer?) attorney claiming to representing Hor Namhong
  2. Hor Namhong, a Khmer citizen
  3. Artist Sacrava, an Australian citizen
  4. The website is hosted by a subsidiary of Google, a US company
Dear Sir,

I am acting as French counsel for Foreign Minister of Cambodia, Mr. Hor Namhong.

I have noted that on your web site, named, the following caricatures are advertised, namely:

- “Hor Namhong , I am searching for the Truth .... I was a Khmer Rouge or the Boeng Trabek Jail Chief” (May 12, 2008);

- “Dam or Dum - Hor Namhong: My Xmer Govermment wanted Cambodia to be the Battery of South-East Asia" (April 7, 2008);

- “Hor Namhong: I'm going to sue you with this deformation searching ” (April 19, 2008).

Those caricatures could be sanctioned by a court of law, as being in particular libelous, slanderous and defamatory for Mr. Hor Namhong.

In this respect, I draw your attention to the fact that in a 1991 judgement, the Paris courts ruled that similar allegations were defamatory for Mr. Hor Namhong.

Therefore I put you on notice, on behalf of Mr. Hor Namhong, to immediately take all measures so that those caricatures, and other caricatures which would be in the same vein, be deleted from your web site.

Mr. Hor Namhong obviously reserves all his rights against you and any other participants or contributors to this matter. Please indicate me the name of your attorney-at-law in this matter.

Sincerely yours.
David Meas
Attorney at Law


Anonymous said...

It is just a warning to the cartoonist to withdraw all his particular characters out from his website.

If there is going to be a lawsuit, it will be an interesting one, just wondering how and wath David Meas would find a venue to do it.

Cartoon in Australia, did portrait all sort of people, and there has never been any lawsuit against the cartoonist at any stage.

Anonymous said...

Saccravatoon should send his stub to
Canard Enchainé to check the licence
of this lawyer.

Anonymous said...

Are you fuckdup Ah David Shit?

Meas is to fucking good for you!

Your mother will curse you, for being so stupid!

Go sue your father to make your mother to give birth to a stupid cheap scumbage like you ah Meas Clay! And you fucking name is not David your fucking imposter!

Anonymous said...

David Meas was a very stupid student, he got the diploma when he was 47 years old.

Anonymous said...

Ha! dummy david meas,you can't stop the freedom of express to the world. it's true that Mr. Ho Namhong was a chief jail. He himself say so and the evidence and the witness say so. And I myself lived through the horrible years of khmer rouge. Were you there? and where?

Anonymous said...

Ah Meas David is an ignorant student!

Anonymous said...

Sincerely yours
David Meas
Attorney at lorn

Anonymous said...

David Meas ជា អាមេធាវី គ្មានអ្នកណារាប់រក

អា David Meas ជាអាដើរទាត់ខ្យល់ (អាអត់ការធ្វើ)នៅប្រទេសបារាំង។

ខ្មែរនៅបារាំង ស្គាល់វា ដោយសារ ប្តីគេវាយវាពកភ្នែកខាងឆ្វេង កាល ៣ ឆ្នាំមុន ព្រោះវាបានញែប្រពន្ធគេ។

បើនៅអាមេរិក បែបហ្នឹង ប្រហែលគេបាញ់វា ងាប់បាត់ទៅហើយ!

Anonymous said...

From now on if you dare talking anything about HO Vietnam Kong. You will get sue by Ah Khmean KadarviWich attorney-oat(khmean)-law.

Go to HElL!!! and serve your Master HO! STOP! making us suffering! OK! get it!, Got it! shit Head!

Anonymous said...

Ho ahead stupid lawyer, you are in fact a brick layer.

If you want to sue journalist or cartoonist, go to do it in Nam Yang. It will backfire on your asshole. We an swear at a prime minister and they would still say thank you because it mean something wrongwith them they need to correct or improve.

Most Khmer lawyers overseas only got their diploma when they are already old - late 30s or 40s., becaue they have no brain to go straight to uni from school. Most of them just like to show off and bluff when they got their diploma. And most of them wouldn't last the probation in a mainstream law firm. So tjhey come out into solo to bluff and ripp of their Khmer clients in their own community. Hardly any non-Khmer clients would use them. They would starve without Khmer clients.

Anonymous said...

David Meas is having a daydream on the defmation lawsuit.

Hor Nam Hong was the chief, according to himself and Tuol Slaeng confessions, the B Deparment of B people or Monti B (30, 31.. etc). B stands for Boroteh, Foreign Affairs of the Khmer Rouge. These people officially were the employees of the DK Foreign Ministry under Ieng Sary. Long Visalo was the working with Chak Sarin at the department of cartography at the DK Foreign Ministry. He was the one who drew those colorful map of the DK which survive to today. Was HNH a KR.?? Yes, legally and officially.

Monti B(s), Boroteh Department at Bong trabak ws NOT the prison; no fence, no locked gate even at night.

NHH could be charged with complicity to murders along with Duch, a Chinese/Vietnamese descent (like HNH,) because when B people were implicated in the cofessions from Tuol Sl., HNH would facilitate the arrests etc. His job was to keep his hand over all pulses of the Department.

HNH Khmer rouge was Comrade Yaem, if people check the KR Standing Committee/Poliburo Meetings's minutes, they will see that Yaem paricipated in a lot of those meetings. Youk Chhang might of assitance locating those Minutes.

Truth is a defense to Defamation, lady Meas David.

Anonymous said...

To Esquire David Meas:
The school which conferred a law degree to you must be terribly shameful to have produced such a mediocre lawyer like you. Your action is laughable at best and stupid at worst. I hope that you take a good look at youself in the mirror and say it to youself this phrase: "What an idiot I am!" 100 times.
Forgive me for being so harsh on you, BUT PLEASE if you couldn't do anything admirable as a lawyer, just don't humiliate houself.
Thank you

Anonymous said...

Lacks of understanding in international (tort) laws and free speech, OR does he, Mr. Meas, try to build name for himself. The lawsuit abide no merit; he's undermine his legal ability.

Anonymous said...


I got my law degree from Columbia University Law School. Most of my clients are White and Khmer. Your statement is partial and bias! Look at the shapes and sizes of your fingers and think before utter.

Anonymous said...

4:27AM, no stupid person can achieve a law degree. Law school is intensive and harsh--let alone the bar exam. There aren't any restriction to pursue any college degree pertain to age. I got my Master at 22 and PhD at 53, so please be fair!!! Your comment s are stressed out from anger and frustration, nonetheless.

Anonymous said...

"Your statement is partial and bias! Look at the shapes and sizes of your fingers and think before utter."

-HA.HA. what expression is this? Khmer? English Expression?

Any Oun Meas, who spends times participating in KI-MEDIA outlet news also, you must have no client to serve.

Colombia Law University, isn't that in America? Why you claim yourself to be a French?

Being American you know better then to sue people for artworks! Hor Nam Hong (like Tai-Hong) is your God who cannot be be caricatured?

Anonymous said...

Don't worry Sacrava. Hor Namhong or David Meas can sue you in Australian court. David want to intimidate you by saying that Namhong won a law suit against ex-king Sihanouk in 1991. That law suit was lost because Sihanouk did not show up in court. No worry, there will be enough evidences for the Australian court to dismiss Hamhong's suit. Namhong want to sue anybody who said he is a Khmer Rouge, so he want to sue hundreds and thousands of people and journalists? there are many journalists who said that he was a KR,so let him sue the whole world.

Anonymous said...

Sir 7.21AM

There is no 4.27AM. What kind of lawyer are you ? No wonder you have no real job, coming to hang around KI. How many cases have lost in court ? How many times have the judges asked you to repeat your English in the court room ? It won't be long before I see you applying a job with the CPP.

Anonymous said...

Is this the same David Meas?
David Meas. Corporate Lawyer, Firm: Salans. Address: 9 Rue Boissy d'Anglas 75008 Paris, France. Phone: 33 1 42 68 91 42. Fax: 33 1 42 68 69 34 ...

money chase your blind said...

wow this is public talking about khmer ,we all had free dom to speed so what are you to sue me or all people over here .you closed khmer in country but not over see .how much you get money from ah Hor nam hong ,of chief in boeng tra bet prison .

Anonymous said...

I think the lawyer will have an other high profile line up for his brilliant service for a brand new tycoon, Mr Sok Kong who is appeared in the ABC, Foreign Correspondent Program called
Scambodia: The Double Mystery of Angkor.
Broadcast: 13/05/2008
Reporter: Eric Campbell
I can't wait to see the official announcement from David Meas to sue the Australian Broadcasting Corporation ABC. And I have no doubt that he will be receiving the very handsome fee from the plaintif tyrants.

Anonymous said...

Sacrava , this is a blatant act of intimidation from an immoral lawyer
He don't even know where you live.
Tell him to get lost , tell him to jump in the lake.
He should sue his computer screen instead for showing you artwork to his master.

Anonymous said...

In fact, the lawyer in Cambodia has not have the same prestige and money like in western and europe country. I can go there and got sponsor by someone for one year.. I can get the lawyer license.
Well, lawyers are just suckers...
They're worth something when they defend the poors.
Usually, they kill the spirit and soul of poor people.

Khmer Canadian

Anonymous said...

In a free country, all kind of medias have their freedom of expression. All public servants have to face with public scruitineer of their past and their present inlvolments with their crime. They cannot sue any media at all. Read with a recent resignation of a the most senior public servant in NZ. While, their story has gone to the media in public, the minister or any public servant inlvolve needs to resign for a full investigation. Where on earth this minister can sue media without clearing himself up first? Areak Prey

Anonymous said...

Bonjour Lok Bun Heang,

J'ai beaucoup apprécié votre travail, je suis pour votre job,

Pour Samamett Hor Nam Hong,
Vous êtes le ministre, si vous n'êtes pas d'accord que vous êtes l'un des Khmers Rouges et d'ailleur vous êtes d'origine vietnamien né au Pays Khmer, vous devriez vous présenter et dire la vérité devant le tribunal de KR " qui est Angkar Leu ? "

Pour Me David Meas
Je crois que vous êtes d'origine khmère naturalisée française. Ne pas utiliser le mot " Conseil Français " car il y a beaucoup de Conseillers Français font du mal aux khmers. Un exemple tout chaud, c'est Le Kampuchea Krom, la France ne parle jamais son erreur et si vous êtes fier d'être CONSEIL FRANCAIS, faîtes parler la France pour une bonne cause de Kampuchea Krom !

Anonymous said...

Cheyo Khmer!

Cheyo Sacrava!

Down with the Crony CPP and its Master.

Anonymous said...

Yes I'm really proud to be real Khmer & Ashame of Being Khmer with viet head like HNH & David tvea meas :)

Anonymous said...

This is the David Méas representing Hor Nam Hong.

Anonymous said...

Actually there is a criminal law in Cambodia call Disinformation (see UNTAC Criminal Law, Article 62) which states "The director or other party responsible for a publication or other means of communication who took the decision to publish, distribute or reproduce by any means information which is false, fabricated, falsified or untruthful attributed to a third person and did so in bad faith and with malicious intent, provided the the publication, distribution or reproduction has disturbed or is likely to disturb the public peace, shall be liable to a punishment of six months to three years in prison, a fine of three hundred thousand to three million Riels, or both.
-The issues are whether or not the publication "has disturbed or is likely to disturb the public peace.
It certainly offends the subject of these cartoons but does it disturb the public??? The other issued was whether is was done with "malicioous intent" or in "bad faith". These would be issues the judge would decide if such criminal action was filed in the Cambodia courts.

Anonymous said...

Defamation exists in any country, but there many defenses to defamation suit. The truth is the ultimate defense. Public interests is another one. Hor Namhong was a KR and ex-chief of Boeng Trabek, so what were said about Namhong so far by alot of people are true. So he can't win.

Anonymous said...

hahahaha. suing a cartoonist? I'm sure the Australian court will throw out the case.

Anonymous said...

Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison B32?

a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok 
d) Khieu Samphan 
e) Son Sen 
f) Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
g) Ieng Sary 
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) Hun Sen

Document Center of Cambodia

During the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime;
There are 196 prisons.
There are 196 prison chiefs.
There are 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples killed by the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime.

Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka
Hun Sen...

Kaing Guek Eav is a prison chief of Toul Sleng prison S21.
Document Center of Cambodia

The UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) must indict 195 other prison chiefs.

"I will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders, I rather let the court (KRT ECCC) fail.  Indict more Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders will lead the country into a civil war."
Samak Mith Hun Sen
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leader

Samak Mith Hun Sen will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders who is responsible for killing 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples.

Samak Mith Hun Sen threaten to turn Cambodia back into the Killing Fields all over again.

War with whom?
War with innocent Khmer peoples without weapon?

Once a Khmer Rouge, always a Khmer Rouge.

A good Khmer Rouge(s) is a dead Khmer Rouge(s)

Khmer Rouge(s) continue to kill innocent Khmer peoples.

Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...

"(Samak Mith) Duch (Kaing Guek Eav) 19 years sentence is too short and doesn't fit his crimes."
Samak Mith Yaem (Hor Namhong)
Prison Chief of Boeung Trabek prison B32

What's Hor Namhong trying to do is, he want the whole world to know that he is not a Khmer Rouge and a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.

Hor Namhong is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison B32.
Phnom Penh Post

Hor Namhong said to the French judge that he is not a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison, in fact members of his family was killed by Khmer Rouge(s).

Hor Namhong can lies all he want, at the end, he got summoned and will get indict, prosecute, convict and sentence.

Criminals likes to lies.

The place where criminals lies the most is inside the court room in front of the judge(s).

On October 7, 2009 Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun and Sim Ka has been summoned by the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC).