The Mekong Times, Xinhua & DPA
Just as the simmering controversy over the hilltop Preah Vihear temple seemed set to die down, a new agreement between Thailand and Cambodia appears to have ignited a flammable situation in Thailand.
With coup rumors again rife in Thailand, the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) are to march on Government House in Bangkok seeking to force the resignation of Thai Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej and his cabinet, who have been running the country for less than six months. A recent agreement over the potential listing of the hilltop sanctuary as a World Heritage Site has sparked allegations of corruption in the Thai government.
Thailand and Cambodia on Wednesday signed a joint communiqué concerning the Preah Vihear temple behind closed doors, after the Thai cabinet endorsed a new map drawn by Cambodia delineating the borders of the historic site Tuesday.
The new map will be the cornerstone of Cambodia’s presentation to UNESCO experts at a meeting in Quebec, Canada next month.
After the signing, Thai Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama and other senior officials told reporters that the new map delineating the temple ruins “did not affect each country’s rights on surveying and demarcating the common border.”
Pen Ngoeurn, an advisor to the Cambodian Council of Ministers, on Thursday noted that the map drawn “registers only the temple. The Thai government does not oppose Cambodia’s bid to register Preah Vihear temple on the World Heritage List.”
Chuch Phoeurn, secretary of state for the Cambodian Ministry of Culture and Fine Arts, played down concerns Thursday, saying that negotiations had been “positively fruitful.”
“From now on there will be no more obstacles because the two governments have officially signed the communiqué to inscribe Preah Vihear temple on the World Heritage List as planned,” he said.
Pen Ngoeurn declined to comment on Thai demonstrations against their government’s decision to back the Cambodian bid, saying it was an internal affair of the Thai government. “Cambodia always respects the internal policies of other countries. We will not interfere in the Thai demonstration,” he added.
However, it is clear that, as growing dissent raises concerns over another possible coup in Thailand, the Thai government’s decision to support Cambodia’s bid to list Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site has been seen there as part of a sinister business deal, typical of the Thaksin era, DPA reported.
Matters are not helped by the fact that Noppadon Patama is Thaksin’s former lawyer and one day after he disclosed the country’s support for Cambodia’s Preah Vihear bid, Thaksin announced plans to build a casino-hotel complex on Cambodia’s Koh Kong island.
Preah Vihear is a sensitive issue for most Thais. The magnificent Hindu temple was the source of a border dispute in the 1950s that ended up in the International Court in The Hague. The court ruled in 1962 that the temple belonged to Cambodia.
Noppadon’s approval of the Cambodian claim should pave the way for the temple’s listing at the July 2 UNESCO meeting, a result that will undoubtedly provide a publicity boost for Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen’s CPP party in the July 27 parliamentary election, DPA reported.
“It looks like Thailand decided to help Hun Sen in the elections,” said Kraisak Choonhavan, a member of the opposition Democrat Party.
“The government’s way of handling this has created the suspicion that personal gains are more important than national gains,” added Kraisak.
Still, Noppadon was adamant the two countries will jointly submit a management plan for overlapping areas to the UNESCO World Heritage Committee for consideration by Feb 1, 2010.
He stressed the new map does “not violate even an inch of Thai territory” and that there is no hidden agenda.
Noppadon denied allegations that Thai approval of the map will assist Thaksin in oil investments in Cambodian territorial waters.
Lt. Gen. Dan Meechooarth, director of the Supreme Command’s Royal Thai Survey Department, said his department has been surveying the disputed area over the last few decades, and assured that Cambodia is not encroaching on Thai territory in its application for Preah Vihear to be listed as a World Heritage site.
Veerasak Footrakul, permanent secretary for the Thai Foreign Ministry, said a tripartite committee will be appointed to discuss supervising the un-demarcated 4.6 square kilometers.
With coup rumors again rife in Thailand, the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) are to march on Government House in Bangkok seeking to force the resignation of Thai Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej and his cabinet, who have been running the country for less than six months. A recent agreement over the potential listing of the hilltop sanctuary as a World Heritage Site has sparked allegations of corruption in the Thai government.
Thailand and Cambodia on Wednesday signed a joint communiqué concerning the Preah Vihear temple behind closed doors, after the Thai cabinet endorsed a new map drawn by Cambodia delineating the borders of the historic site Tuesday.
The new map will be the cornerstone of Cambodia’s presentation to UNESCO experts at a meeting in Quebec, Canada next month.
After the signing, Thai Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama and other senior officials told reporters that the new map delineating the temple ruins “did not affect each country’s rights on surveying and demarcating the common border.”
Pen Ngoeurn, an advisor to the Cambodian Council of Ministers, on Thursday noted that the map drawn “registers only the temple. The Thai government does not oppose Cambodia’s bid to register Preah Vihear temple on the World Heritage List.”
Chuch Phoeurn, secretary of state for the Cambodian Ministry of Culture and Fine Arts, played down concerns Thursday, saying that negotiations had been “positively fruitful.”
“From now on there will be no more obstacles because the two governments have officially signed the communiqué to inscribe Preah Vihear temple on the World Heritage List as planned,” he said.
Pen Ngoeurn declined to comment on Thai demonstrations against their government’s decision to back the Cambodian bid, saying it was an internal affair of the Thai government. “Cambodia always respects the internal policies of other countries. We will not interfere in the Thai demonstration,” he added.
However, it is clear that, as growing dissent raises concerns over another possible coup in Thailand, the Thai government’s decision to support Cambodia’s bid to list Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site has been seen there as part of a sinister business deal, typical of the Thaksin era, DPA reported.
Matters are not helped by the fact that Noppadon Patama is Thaksin’s former lawyer and one day after he disclosed the country’s support for Cambodia’s Preah Vihear bid, Thaksin announced plans to build a casino-hotel complex on Cambodia’s Koh Kong island.
Preah Vihear is a sensitive issue for most Thais. The magnificent Hindu temple was the source of a border dispute in the 1950s that ended up in the International Court in The Hague. The court ruled in 1962 that the temple belonged to Cambodia.
Noppadon’s approval of the Cambodian claim should pave the way for the temple’s listing at the July 2 UNESCO meeting, a result that will undoubtedly provide a publicity boost for Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen’s CPP party in the July 27 parliamentary election, DPA reported.
“It looks like Thailand decided to help Hun Sen in the elections,” said Kraisak Choonhavan, a member of the opposition Democrat Party.
“The government’s way of handling this has created the suspicion that personal gains are more important than national gains,” added Kraisak.
Still, Noppadon was adamant the two countries will jointly submit a management plan for overlapping areas to the UNESCO World Heritage Committee for consideration by Feb 1, 2010.
He stressed the new map does “not violate even an inch of Thai territory” and that there is no hidden agenda.
Noppadon denied allegations that Thai approval of the map will assist Thaksin in oil investments in Cambodian territorial waters.
Lt. Gen. Dan Meechooarth, director of the Supreme Command’s Royal Thai Survey Department, said his department has been surveying the disputed area over the last few decades, and assured that Cambodia is not encroaching on Thai territory in its application for Preah Vihear to be listed as a World Heritage site.
Veerasak Footrakul, permanent secretary for the Thai Foreign Ministry, said a tripartite committee will be appointed to discuss supervising the un-demarcated 4.6 square kilometers.
36 comments:
Cambodia should divide to two. One west side becomes Thailand and east side becomes Vietnam.
Cambodian people many are stil too stupid behaving like animals.
I assume that's also including you! Or perhaps, you are talking about the so-called leaders like ..... (you can fill in the blank).
12:19
I don't think you are educted people. You cannot compare people to animal. If you compare like that it seems that you are also the one who have behavor like a stupid dog, and included your parents.
I don't know I'm educated it or not, I graduated with a PhD from Chulalongkorn University. My field is Chemistry. Oh My parents are in Isan and they don't want to be Khmers anymore. Get a clear message.
Good that I have reply from Phd. I am pround of your education, but please do not compare people to animal. Many khmer people are quite good, and they never agressive the neigboring countries. I am agree that some people are very bad. I am also Phd form University of Tokyo.
My comrade @ 12:34, if I had the opportunity, I would reform education system at your University. I don't like to see/hear a person like yourself claiming to be an intellectual/PhD but sound so uneducated.
I can understand why Khmer-Thais many don't want to be
Khmers anymore, because they feel so ashamed what they see. If Khmer people cannot unite for just a small country and less people, I think the borders of Thailand and Vietnam will be joined which means no more Cambodia and Laos.
Thai's astrologer already made a prediction.
perhaps, the Thai's astrologer forgot that -- Siam was the by-product of Khmer! Siam does not have any (Siam) national monument to show to the world. Why? Because they don't have any shit! That's is the main reason why the Siam has been trying, with their last breath, to snatch our Khmer Preah Vihea Temple. Even Khmer has legal documents to proof to the world that's ours, Siam choses to ignor, Ah lop!
Show us any ancient Temple that are now in Siam land that does not have Khmer writings on the wall!
Yeah! We Khmer have had some bad leaderships but we are trying our best effort to make sure that we don't have that kind of wacko head to lead the country again.
No, no, 12:34, don't let Ah Khmer-Yuon get to you. They had not done anything for Cambodia but to destroy it. Everywhere they go trouble will followed. They are nothing but a loser, and you don't want to take them seriously.
At any rate, You can changed what you are. You always be Khmer and we had not forgot that.
that is a good move. but why is there still overlapping area to join management? We lost too much land already with France-Siam treaty in early 20th century. we can not afford to lost more today.
dear foriener 12.19, 12.34,
i think you are the same person, i'm Khmer but i called you foriener, because you mentioned that you and your parent rejected to be Khmer, i did not went to university because i dont have enough money to pay for that, even local university in phnom Penh, that is fine it is my luck cant be born in rich family like you, but with my high school educted in coutryside of country called Cambodia, i love my country, my people and feel very proud to be Khmer to have great Khmer kingdom that built the great and best temples in this woorld, which any nations in this world cant challenge though with today technology,
i feel completely disappointed to hear a well educated like you, who has PhD (honestly speaking i dont know what is PhD stand for) speak and compared one country that you lay your feet first on earth to be animal............ your parent must be very proud of you and when you have a family and children they will be very proud to have parent and grand parent like your family. not much else to say for me now.
forgive me as well if i dont write proper english, it is because, i learned this language only at small school by paying 500 riels per hour, may be for you not even call this small thath roof cattage not a school.
Proud to be born as Khmer
Did the Thai astrologist tell you that Thailand will be divided very soon. They should have told you.
But I was wondering what kind of PHD Degree in Chemistry you have? Phd in sciences but believe blindly in superstitious ideas from the astrologist. I see no sign of education in what you claimed your self to be educated. The prediction is some sort of propaganda distributed to calm down the situation. This psychological approach to problem solving cannot help the Thais. Thais now are destroying themselves at least when it comes to demonstration over Preh Vihear. It sound funny, PHD from Chulalongkkon cannot see the difference between scientific knowledge. Is that academic tradition you have learned from Chulalong kon university? sound funny phd h hhhhhhhaa what a shame!!!
Animals mean being without intellectual and ethics. And I see no sign of intellectuals and ethical acts in Thai mentality and behaviors. I see not sign of intellectual and morality in what you said. So who are animal now. I am sure everyone will agree. That you animal
I am just an uneducated Khmer who is doing MA in Europe
Thai cannot afford to lost their land any more!! sound again funny, Where those lands belonging to THAIS?
We, the Khmer,our suffering brought to us by the Thais. They stole almost everything from us since 15 centuries. They stole even our people and reeducate them in the way people who have Khmer blood turned out to be Khmer enemies.
Who is the Ph.D from Chemistry in Chulalongkorn? What's your name and department? I'm also student from Cambodia studying Master in Chulalongkorn, Department of Civil Engineering, Faculty of Engineering.
I don't support your idea. If we confirm we are educated studying in Ph.D. We should know the moral of people and accept what the fact is.
Prah Vihear was build by Khmer Empire and should belong to Khmer now. Siam or Thai stole land much from Cambodia during 20th. Dont you know that?
Please stop talking about our temple. It's now Cambodian territory.
I'm proud to be Cambodian.
From Student, Chulalongkorn Uni.
Dear all Khmer patriots,
Please do not care about that idiot's comments. Preah Vihear is belong to Khmer all the time. Soon Thai's economy will jump down due to their current conflict.
Long Live Khmer! Long Live Preah Vihear!
Yo Yo Yo,....
Please do not stop fighting each other my slave Siams! Samak kill all your oppositionists. Why you let them demonstrate slave? Show me your power!
Froam a descendant of King Jayavarman VII
why isn't there reply from the Chulalongkorn PHD? If education has turned you to what you are today, you are better off to have been sent to jungle. At least you wont have the dirty brain to shamefully give such intimidation to your mother land and its people. you deserve a place in hell, the siem-wanna-be khmer. From Koun Khmer in Malaysia.
ចរិតពិតរបស់សៀម(១)
សៀមអើយៗសៀម សៀមកុំនៅស្ងៀម សៀមប្រឹងខាំគ្នា ទោះថ្ងៃឬយប់ ព្រលប់ព្រលឹម ខាំហត់នោះសឹម ខ្មែរឱ្យឆ្អឹងឆី។
សៀមអើយៗសៀម សៀមកុំនៅស្ងៀម
សៀមត្រូវឃ្មាតខ្មី សៀមណាពូកែ ខ្មែរអោយឆ្អឹងបី តែសៀមណាក្ស័យ ខ្មែរយកធ្វើជី។
សៀមអើយៗសៀម សៀមកុំនៅស្ងៀម
សៀមត្រូវសំភី សៀមចេញឱ្យអស់ ទោះឈ្មោលឬញី សៀមមកមូលមី ខាំនៅបាងកក។
(១)សៀមប្រែថា៖ ទាសកររបស់ខ្មែរ
និពន្ធភ្លាមៗដោយ កូនចៅជំនាន់ក្រោយរបស់ព្រះបាទជ័យវរ្ម័នទី៧
" Still, Noppadon was adamant the two countries will jointly submit a management plan for overlapping areas to the UNESCO World Heritage Committee for consideration by Feb 1, 2010."
They are dreaming again at day noon. ចរិតសៀមមិនចោលសោះ
I am pround to be khmer. Siam economie will go down due to their conflict. Siam try to agressive Cambodian amt hundred year already, they still manything from us. This nation alway agressive the neigboring countries.
Long live khmer!
Koun khmer in Japan
ខ្ញុំសូមគាំទ្រទាំងស្រុងនូវទស្សនៈអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិខ្មែរទាំងអស់ខាងលើ!
ប្រហែលនេះជាបាបកម្មដែលសៀមត្រូវទទួលនូវទង្វើដ៏ទុរយសរបស់ពួកវាដែលបានសាងមកលើប្រជារាស្រ្តខ្មែរដ៏ស្លូតត្រង់ហើយមើលទៅ!
ពិតជាសប្បាយចិត្តណាស់ព្រះជាម្ចាស់អើយ!!!
គ្មានអ្វីសប្បាយជាងការដែលឃើញសៀមឈ្លោះទាស់ទែងគ្នានោះទេ!!!
ជយោទឹកដីខ្មែរដ៏បវរ! ជយោប្រាសាទព្រះវិហារដ៏មានឬទ្ធិ! ជយោសៀមបែកបាក់!!!
12:34 PM,
A scholar with a PhD will express h/her logistics voice thru wisdom and dignity but not ignorance and disparity. I applause your conviction of doubt whether your‘re an educated individual. And truthfully, you are not. However, I don’t expect much from a country where her culture and history are bias, left alone the people. Remember, knowledge is power, so stop disgrace yourself.
Khmer pride.
Sino-Khmer
6th grader from America.
It doesnt' matched up with that guy claims that he graduatead with Phd and curse other people for being animals. I don't think he is smart. He is stupid like hell. If he is educated he wouldn't say such ignorant and arrogant like that. You stupid 12:19 PM, I don't like to hear that you claim to be Khmer. You lost your identity. You know what, most of the Thai are having its root to khmer blood including you but I do not want to see you as part of Khmer because you said Cambodia should be devided into two. You are so stupid and uneducated. Khmer will win over any obstacle. We have been through all kind of turbulence and we know how to handle it. If Thai having war among each other or having war with Cambodia I think Cambodia will smash them easy or just send a group of KR they will eat your livers alive. Jayo! Khmer!!! Bravo!! Khmer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phnom Penh Rolom,
Prey Nokor Roleay,
Banghoh Kchat-Kchay,
Sambay Angkor.
Siem Bay-Kry Dynasty is going down
hill.Believe or nor Siem are thieves
from its King to the People.
Thailand today was a part of Khmer Empire.
Yes very true!! Give us back or you will be suffer by the Karma!!!!! You damn Thai!! You theives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The Thai nation were born later after Preah Vihear. Why did they even want to claim it?
12:34
I think you a bandit. You are a lost person of your own identify. Remember everything is happened for a reason. If you just do some reasoning you would understand and be a good person as you claimed yourself to be.
Thank you very much, Thailand!
This is the result that you, Thailand, have been teaching your poeple improper ways.
This is not Samak Sundaravej's faults. This is the PM before him faults. Samak Sundaravej is scapgot only.
Thank you very much, Thailand!
This is the result that you, Thailand, have been teaching your poeple improper ways.
This is not Samak Sundaravej's faults. This is the PM before him faults. Samak Sundaravej is scapgot only.
You 12:19PM the Khmer images what you're seing should not so keen compared its to animal, you don't speculated from other angle; my personal view is SIam & Yuon are animal likely, they don't know who's territory is, they are fighting to get some share of cambodian land( this is typically animal).The Khmer people however, is The clever nation good memory always aware of theirown territory limited, compassion and foresight nation; not like an PHD 12:34PM from JULA..U,it's regretable to hear this individue comment such a useless idiology. I have known some of low educated Khmer LOEU Men & Women comment differently; because they have relatives in Cabbodia, many of them wanted to preserved Khmer culture, love what is Khmer belong to make them proud and distigue from Siamese culture. You should reinform your parents to embrassing Khmer nation rather other nation. I understand you're still young could merely see the darker cloud present over your head, you should realize that the weather is constantly changing. Though embrass Khmer nation My dear do not let this domestic Bird (youself)end up in other nation Restaurent's fried pan, You have the WINGS my dear......!
May god bless Khmer all in cluding you!
Shame on you Thai people. You stolen Cambodian land for more than hundreds years. Now, get you kamar.
Go down Thailand.
From Koun Khmer in the USA
7th grade student.
PhD is very easy to get these days especially in Thailand. How much did you pay for your? I'm looking into sell mine. By they way, mine is from UCLA.
just ignore the trouble-makers. by the way, thailand have one, too. it is useless for cambodia to even speak to them and plus, preah vihear is cambodia's since ancient time, not thailand. so, end of story already!
just ignore this stupid Thai, maybe his mother was raped by hundreds of Thai bandits, that is why he speaks like that.
12:34 PM shamefull of what you said.. how such stupidity and unworkable ideology occurs in a phd mind! Non Khmer shall be assimilated to either thai or youn nation. Although, they or you must have khmer blood. but you must think as the Nation. WE khmer shall stand unite as one. no thai or youn. because they're belong to diffent family. and I'm no no phd lol .. you're loser!
University of Melbourne!! lol
Hey Siems or Thais, why the hell you guys protest for? You know damn well that Preah Vihear Temple belongs to Khmers READ THE HISTORY, WHO BUILT IT? WHOSE LAND WAS IT? Oh yeah I forget the Thais are so stupid, you don't know how to read. You guys had a history of stealing somebody's lands. If that the case just shut the .... up and stay home let the Cambodians do their things.
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