A THAI RATH writer said it would be unfortunate if Thailand and Cambodia see relations sour further over the temple
Saturday July 05, 2008
KAMOL HENGKIETISAK
Bangkok Post
Tackling existing problems by adding on new ones is rarely a good strategy. Sometimes, however, a new problem may help reduce conflicts inflicted by an existing one, said a Thai Rath writer. Such is the case in the Administrative Court's ruling to temporarily halt government support for the Cambodian government's unitary application to the Unesco World Heritage Committee (WHC) to list Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site.
The court's ruling has the following immediate effects:
1. The cabinet can no longer proceed with the Foreign Ministry's proposal to support the Cambodian government in listing Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site.
2. The joint communique between the Thai and Cambodian governments on this issue, signed by Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama, is not enforceable.
3. The Thai government must inform the Cambodian government that its prior agreement to support Cambodia's unitary effort to list Preah Vihear is no longer applicable due to the court's ruling.
4. The Thai government must inform Unesco's World Heritage Committee, now meeting in Quebec, about the hiccup facing the Thai government.
In short, the Administrative Court's ruling halts any proceedings from the Thai side supporting Preah Vihear's listing as a Cambodian World Heritage Site. If and when the court ultimately rules that the government acted legally, then the government can proceed with its support of the Cambodian government's application to list Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site.
If, on the other hand, the court finally decides against the government, any prior agreements made by the Thai government with the Cambodian government on the Preah Vihear issue become null and void.
This would mean that the Thai government must reserve its right to ask the WHC to allow the two to jointly list Preah Vihear. The Thai Rath writer had his doubts that the Cambodian government would agree to this, as the World Court at the Hague ruled in 1962 that the temple belonged to Cambodia and the Cambodian government has already submitted a new map that does not encroach on Thai territory to avoid any Thai objections. He then asked if the Thai government would allow the joint listing if it were in Cambodia's shoes.
Thai Rath noted that the issue is very sensitive on both sides, and no one is happy with the present situation.
Thai people believe that allowing Cambodia to unilaterally list Preah Vihear would result in a loss of territory, while the Cambodian people will accuse Prime Minister Hun Sen of giving in to Thailand if the disputed territory is jointly listed.
What is certain is that the Cambodian government would not be pleased if the Thai government no longer supported its listing of Preah Vihear, because the application has been in the preparation stages for several years now, and there have been several rounds of discussions between the two countries, as well as with the WHC. Prime Minister Hun Sen certainly won't be pleased if he cannot use the successful listing of Preah Vihear to court votes in the forthcoming general election.
Thus, the Administrative Court's temporary injunction on Preah Vihear might help lessen the conflicts between the two peoples.
The Thai Rath writer said it would be unfortunate if the two countries which share an 800 km border see relations further souring over the issue.
In any case, he added, it is now too late for the Thai government to agree in time for a listing of Preah Vihear this year, as the issue still has to pass a final hurdle at the Constitution Court.
The Democrat party on Thursday asked the Constitution Court to rule on whether the government violated Article 190 of the constitution in regard to Preah Vihear, and there can be no movement by the Thai government until the court gives its ruling.
The court's ruling has the following immediate effects:
1. The cabinet can no longer proceed with the Foreign Ministry's proposal to support the Cambodian government in listing Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site.
2. The joint communique between the Thai and Cambodian governments on this issue, signed by Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama, is not enforceable.
3. The Thai government must inform the Cambodian government that its prior agreement to support Cambodia's unitary effort to list Preah Vihear is no longer applicable due to the court's ruling.
4. The Thai government must inform Unesco's World Heritage Committee, now meeting in Quebec, about the hiccup facing the Thai government.
In short, the Administrative Court's ruling halts any proceedings from the Thai side supporting Preah Vihear's listing as a Cambodian World Heritage Site. If and when the court ultimately rules that the government acted legally, then the government can proceed with its support of the Cambodian government's application to list Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site.
If, on the other hand, the court finally decides against the government, any prior agreements made by the Thai government with the Cambodian government on the Preah Vihear issue become null and void.
This would mean that the Thai government must reserve its right to ask the WHC to allow the two to jointly list Preah Vihear. The Thai Rath writer had his doubts that the Cambodian government would agree to this, as the World Court at the Hague ruled in 1962 that the temple belonged to Cambodia and the Cambodian government has already submitted a new map that does not encroach on Thai territory to avoid any Thai objections. He then asked if the Thai government would allow the joint listing if it were in Cambodia's shoes.
Thai Rath noted that the issue is very sensitive on both sides, and no one is happy with the present situation.
Thai people believe that allowing Cambodia to unilaterally list Preah Vihear would result in a loss of territory, while the Cambodian people will accuse Prime Minister Hun Sen of giving in to Thailand if the disputed territory is jointly listed.
What is certain is that the Cambodian government would not be pleased if the Thai government no longer supported its listing of Preah Vihear, because the application has been in the preparation stages for several years now, and there have been several rounds of discussions between the two countries, as well as with the WHC. Prime Minister Hun Sen certainly won't be pleased if he cannot use the successful listing of Preah Vihear to court votes in the forthcoming general election.
Thus, the Administrative Court's temporary injunction on Preah Vihear might help lessen the conflicts between the two peoples.
The Thai Rath writer said it would be unfortunate if the two countries which share an 800 km border see relations further souring over the issue.
In any case, he added, it is now too late for the Thai government to agree in time for a listing of Preah Vihear this year, as the issue still has to pass a final hurdle at the Constitution Court.
The Democrat party on Thursday asked the Constitution Court to rule on whether the government violated Article 190 of the constitution in regard to Preah Vihear, and there can be no movement by the Thai government until the court gives its ruling.
27 comments:
Writer,
Don't you know the Cambodia's stand on Preah Vihear temple?
Whether we our temple can be listed in WHC or not Cambodian government still can develop this area (without thai) to attract more tourists and investor and we will also close the border point(s). In Preah Vohear province, there are not only Preah Vihear temple but we also have Koh Ker temple and other temples, places which are the tourist destination. Preah Vihear can be link with Siem Reap province and Kampong Thom which it has many monuments or temples in Angkor and Pre-Angkor period.
Do you clear about that?
This is Siam chartacteristic from its birth. If their king is good enough, he should say something to calm down the situation. But what he is interested in to do the coup the government in order to prevent his reign now and next in the hell. Shit
Only the Siam can do this without shame.
Siam has nothing to do with it. It is all Khmer in Issan province who just trying to defend their temple from the French or fake Khmer in Cambodia.
8:16 PM
Snif snif...
It's so sad.
Don't blame us in Issan province, blame Ah Fake Khmer who goes around and rob land from everyone.
Hey...9:42 PM
How can you dare to say that Khmer rob land from Thai...You should go back to learn the history of this ASEAN. Most of your land nowadays at Isan belonged to Khmer before.
What you said is like smell shit...you're not shame of what you're saying...If you don't believe go to ask the history professor at Chulalongkorn clearly about your land history.
Thai never teach their student in the right history concerning Cambodia territory.
Go back to read history...boy...you're still young....
Well then, what are you doing in Khmer's Issan province? Get your arse outta there, Ah Fake!
i think the question is simple: unesco should ask this question to thailand: does preah vihear belong to thailand? and i'm sure we all know the answer already given the affirmation and verdict of the 1962 icj ruling, period, end of dispute!!!!!! god bless cambodia.
The Thaicong saga must come to an end because they have no right according to international law to violate Cambodian sovereignty!
The Thaicong can go on jumping like a monkey on the issue of Khmer Phrea Vihear temple and it will never and ever going to change a damn thing!
Keeping jumping all you fucken Thaicong monekys!
Yes, Cambodian sovereignty is only in your dream; so keep on dreaming.
As a Cambodian citizen, I pray that His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej call on his subjects to respect the world court decision on Preah Vihear in 1962 as he once did then. This would quell nationalists' sentiments on both sides to protect Thai-Khmer relations.
Your prayer ain't gonna do you any good. Buddha doesn't help thief.
If you consider that Preah Vihear belongs to the Khmer Issan, then first you should be independent from Ah Nan Chao Siems. If you are still a lowly minority group mistreated by ah Nan Chao siems, then just shut the f*ck up, fool. Gain your independence from Ah Nan Chao Siems and rejoin Mother Cambodia, you f*cker! Stop dismembering more of the Mother Cambodia's territory, you stupid azzhole!
Who said that Preah Vihear belong to Khmer Issan?
Did the International Court mention Khmer Issan anywhere?
So to us Khmer Issan is like Mickey mouse claiming Preah Vihear!!!
Who say that we have to be independent of our protectorate. You fool was under the French protectorate and control for about 100 years, remember?
9:54 AM
Hey Siamland were just a neutral buffer zone between Britain and the French.
You were just lucky and that's it.
Anyway we don't really care about you asshole.
The Siam you should worry about their business about in Cambodia, I guess it's too late now.
You gonna have some hard time doing business here.
Cambodia is hot spot for business baby, and you just kill your opportunity!!!
Good luck Siamland.
Thai historian Charnvit mentioned that Preah Vihear was given to France by Chulalongkorn in order to preserve the rest of Thailand from being a western colony!
I'm a real kol botr Khmer surin and I know that Charnvit is a respectable Thai historian currently a professor at Thammasat University in Bangkok.
I support 100% our brothers in Cambodia!
Phom pen chao Thai "Kamen jag jangwat Surin" phom kho rong hai chao Thai leuad Kamen tuk tuk kon samaki gub pinong khong rao tee prathet Kamphucha.
There is no gain to do business with thieves.
And what was it that Pol Pot said?
To keep you is no gain, to kill you is no lost?
"Who say that we have to be independent of our protectorate. You fool was under the French protectorate and control for about 100 years, remember? 9:54 AM"
100 years?? Ah Pler, you are stupid and can't even do the math, ah pler. What are you good at now? It was necessary that the French protected Cambodia from Ah Nan Chao Siems and Ah Red Delta Youns. But at the end, the Khmer kicked ah French out already. What about you, ah pler? Since the 13the century until now it is long over due that Ah Khmer Issan like you need to grow some spine and dignity to DECLARE your own independence from Ah Nan Chao Siems, ah pler. First Ah Lieve took over Issan from Angkor, then Ah Siems took over, now ah pler need to stand up and say enough is enough and be free ah pler. Stop being a STUPID mather f*cker with twisted thinking.
Yeah, but you wasn't protecting shit, you were invading and raping our (Khmer) land, Ah Jau Masseert(2:47).
Ah 8:57, if it is just Khmer land so why don't I ever see a representative from the Khmer Issan saying anything about it, except ah nan Chao siems instead. Ah Kone mee konjees ah Siems for generations. ah pler. Hhaha.Tell ah Khmer Issan government to come to Cambodia and we will sit down as brothers and sisters, but for now..we don't talk to the slaves of ah Nan Chao Siems, understand. In addition, Cambodia is much smaller than the Issan Region, so you need to grow some spines and declare your Indpendence from ah nan Chao Siesm. I can't believe it Cambodia is much smaller than the Issan Region and Cambodia's Khmer are free while ah Khmer Issan of the much larger Issan Region are still slaves of ah nan Chao siems. Hahha. Grow some spines ah pler.
To: Khmer Kbott Jeat ( Khmer Traitors to the Khmer Nation)
HAVING NO PRIDE FOR YOUR OWN RACE/LACK OF SELF-IDENTITY/AND LACK OF HONOR....part of you has already been dead, so.....
"To keep you is no gain, to kill you is no lost?"
Khmer in Cambodia is dead long ago. Today, there is only Gay French King, Korean, African, ..., and Zimbabwean in Cambodia.
Ah 8:12, the Khmer of Cambodia are the Khmer that retreated from Angkor and fought back ah Nan Chao Siems and Ah Red Delta Youns, not to mention against ah Nan Chao Lievs as well. We are still independent and alive and well. Unlike you who are dead and can't even speak or read or write Khmer properly. In fact, even in the Issan Region, the Khmer are still the ethnic minority people while ah Nan Chao Liev and Siem outnumber them. So you are the one who are dead in spirit and number and now problably will go extinct soon as ah Nan Chao Lieve increase their number.
Nonsense, you can't compare a province to a country. In any case, minority in Issan still have the right to own their house, car, and temple and what have we. And you have no right to steal anything from us.
Now if you are talking Khmer population in Thailand, we are over 25 millions, which is twice your population, not to mention most of you are Yuons, not Khmer, according to Ah Karmen-Yuon in Vietnam. Thus it is you who are the minority, not us.
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