21 July 2008
Top-level talks between Thailand and Cambodia have failed to resolve a dispute over who owns an ancient temple. The talks were called after Thai soldiers entered Cambodia and troops from both countries gathered along the disputed border. Liam Cochrane reports from Preah Viheah temple on the Cambodian-Thai border.
The Defense Ministers of Cambodian and Thailand met Monday at a border town away from the disputed temple site.
They spoke for eight hours, but the discussion ended without a solution to the dispute or a schedule for further talks.
The Director General of the National Authority for Preah Viheah, Professor Hang Soth says the two sides had different ideas on how to resolve the standoff, but said the Cambodian government was committed to finding a non-violent solution.
"No matter how long it takes, Cambodian government still calm, still use any new way to find peace, never want to make the conflict and no want to have fighting with each other," he said.
At Preah Vihear temple, Cambodian and Thai soldiers chatted and posed for photographs together in an atmosphere that was mostly friendly.
But both sides have hundreds of well-armed troops and heavy machine guns in place in case fighting does break out.
Thailand sent troops to the border after anti-government demonstrators attacked Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's government for supporting Cambodia's request to designate the temple a UNESCO World Heritage site.
The Thai protesters say the temple's new status will undermine their country's claim to land around the site.
The Defense Ministers of Cambodian and Thailand met Monday at a border town away from the disputed temple site.
They spoke for eight hours, but the discussion ended without a solution to the dispute or a schedule for further talks.
The Director General of the National Authority for Preah Viheah, Professor Hang Soth says the two sides had different ideas on how to resolve the standoff, but said the Cambodian government was committed to finding a non-violent solution.
"No matter how long it takes, Cambodian government still calm, still use any new way to find peace, never want to make the conflict and no want to have fighting with each other," he said.
At Preah Vihear temple, Cambodian and Thai soldiers chatted and posed for photographs together in an atmosphere that was mostly friendly.
But both sides have hundreds of well-armed troops and heavy machine guns in place in case fighting does break out.
Thailand sent troops to the border after anti-government demonstrators attacked Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's government for supporting Cambodia's request to designate the temple a UNESCO World Heritage site.
The Thai protesters say the temple's new status will undermine their country's claim to land around the site.
32 comments:
Hun Xen knows any tricks to win and to crush his own people, but appears foolish and brainless facing yuon and siam.
do ma ah Kapiik!!!!
remember an educated citizen never wait for gov't to do something, we all can help as we all are in this together. so, it's never right to just wait for one man to take action . we all have interest in cambodia as well as mr. hun sen and others, so we all can do something to help, no matter how big or small the help is. it is called being "proactive", my dear!!! this is a good philosophy or attitude to keep in mind. god bless cambodia.
We khmer should know that we should not make war. It's shame for us to sent troops there first. Getting Thai mountain won't help our people live better. It will cause longer problem in our country. We should do it win-win. We have the main building. Why not we just build up our economy with it. We don't really need thai's land. It's not good to make our people die there.
DEAR COMPATRIOTS,
WE SHOULD ASK OURSELVES WHY HUN XEN IS EXTREMELY ANXIOUS TO NEGOCIATE WITH SAMAK AND DOESN�T WANT TO TAKE THE PREAH VIHEAR ISSUE TO the UN, the International Court of Justice or the Association of South East Asian Nations� (ASEAN) Forum.
I AM TELLING YOU WHY!
THE REASON IS HUN XEN WANTS TO HIDE THE SECRET AGREEMENT THAT HE SIGNED WITH SAMAK AND GAVE SIAM THE 4.6 SQUARE KILOMETRES OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS OF KHMER TEMPLE PREAH VIHEAR IN EXCHANGE TO GET THEIR SUPPORT TO LIST OUR TEMPLE AS World Heritage site and further HIS OWN BUSINESS INTERESTS WITH THAI POLITICIANS (SAMAK, TAKSIN...) TO EXPLOIT THE TEMPLE.
HIS FIRST BETRAYAL WAS ON 11th NOVEMBER 2006
IN SIGNING THE SUPPLEMENTAL TREATY, HE HAD PAID TRIBUTE TO HIS YUON MASTER, OUR LAND, OUR ISLE KOH TRAL, OUR SEA!
THIS MAN IS A TRAITOR TO OUR NATION!
REMOVE HIM BY VOTING SAM RAINSY IN THE 26 JULY ELECTION!
http://www.samrainsyparty.org/index.html
SRP position on Thai invasion of Cambodia
19 July 2008
Sam Rainsy Party (SRP) Members of Parliament recognize the invasion of the Thai army near Preah Vihear temple as a violation of Cambodia's territorial rights and international law. According to the treaties signed in 1904 and 1907 between France and Siam (now Thailand) recognized by the Hague International Court on 15th of June 1962, the recent invasion of Preah Vihear violates this international agreement. SRP Members of Parliament request that the current government immediately file a complaint to United Nations Security Council such that the UN body will immediately uphold Cambodian sovereignty, a stipulation of the Paris Peace Agreements of 1991.
The proposal to designate only the temple of Preah Vihear with a new map and not its surrounding lands to the World Heritage List by the current government as requested by Thailand and a joint communiqué signed by Deputy Prime Minister Sok An and Thai Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama on the 18th of June 2008 is a illegal document, which has not been approved by the Cambodian Parliament, is the main cause of the Thai army invasion on Cambodian territory. SRP Members of Parliament strongly request that Cambodia government repeal this document and demand that the government presents a strong position which refuses to negotiate with the Thai government as long as the Thai army remains on Cambodian territory. In addition, the government must request the withdrawal of the Cambodian ambassador from Thailand in display of our firm disapproval of the invasion.
Defending the country is the duty of the government, thus we must strengthen the armed forces into a national army that is capable and well-equipped with adequate weapons to withstand the invasion of neighboring countries. SRP Members of Parliament request that the Royal Cambodian Armed Forces be strengthened by maintaining decent salaries for soldiers and commanders, and by eliminating current misconduct where soldiers are only promoted to high ranks through means of nepotism and bribery. SRP Members of Parliament urge that the national army be structured in a way where soldiers are promoted because of merit and experience. This will ensure that the Cambodian army will fight bravely and effectively to defend its nation and provide security to the population.
SRP Members of Parliament also request that the indigenous Khmers, who live in former Cambodian provinces currently occupied by Thailand, such as Surin and Sisaket, to demand and to teach the Thai government, politicians and army to respect the Cambodian current territory and to know the facts of history if Thailand wishes to be respected and wanting to insure that the internal violence in her southern provinces will not spread to the northeastern provinces.
SRP Members of Parliament
For additional information, please contact 012 858 857
(Translated from Khmer by Rachel Sam & Audrey Tan)
I had noticed during the 1997 coup of AH PRINCE RANANRIDTH from power by AH HUN SEN military thugs and AH HUN SEN military thugs were well equipped and well dress up to fight any war! Since 1997 to 2008, Cambodian military are falling into disarray and they are ill equipped and poorly dress up as a soldiers due to corruption within the Cambodian military! I have no doubt AH HUN SEN will BE overthrown by a foreign power!
Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-pAksDMmgU
Yeah 4:01am! The trick that you are talking about is called SREET TRICKS .Just take a look at his military background.He was just a simple junior khmer rouge officer.It was yuon who did all the fighting against KR , CPP took all the credits, and he was put to the top job by YUONS and finally became super millionaire prime minister of Cambodia.In term of fighting a war against country ,don't count on him.I have praised day in and day out that THAI will not attack.He did not deserve to be 5 star general.In general,khmer ARMED FORCES was not regard as national army but rather CPP's guard dogs.
I don't know which one is good or bad. But, seem our politics and government also lead us to future problem with neighbour countries. For Thai's mountain, I don't think it will bring better life to us. I think Thailand is not a bad country. They help our childrens to survive. We should respect their land. They always open for trading, we should not fight with them. This problem is cannot be solve if we don't learn to give and reduce hate.
It's sad. The government now bring us back to the history. How can our people live without peace in the area.
my dear, it's not about hate here. it's about thailand violated the treaty of 1907 and their contempt of court, the icj verdict. that's all. it's not yours so stop making a fuss out of it, thailand. didn't you lose the icj verdict already due to your disrespecting of the treaty of 1907. cambodia took thailand to court in the first place because thailand violated the this same treaty of 1907 we're talking about here. and thailand lost already. no part of the temple or the surrounding area in accordance to the treaty of 1907 is yours, none. give it up already. you can't win, trust me!!!! you people can protest until you all die, and it won't change a thing on this issue. not even money can buy you people out of it. and land and temple is priceless. case closed forever!!!!!
Hey you fucking fag Khmer. Why the fuck are you bitching your traitor mouth at other Khmer, Hun Sen or anyone, at the moment? Are you really that fucking stupid huh? You fucking asshole. This is a time for Khmer to unite, not fight or blame one another. Shove that political affiliation you have up your ass and shut the fuck up. You assholes are a disgrace to the forefathers for keep fighting your own Khmer, especially in a time like this. So, stop blaming another Khmer and unite to stay strong against Thai invaders.
:)) I agree with you 5:08AM.
I still support Hun Sen all the way. He just has to use the map our King Father won at ICJ in 1962 that is all.
Person who posted@ 4.29 AM and 4:52 AM, what the F#$K are you Thai Bitch talking about? The god-dame Thai thug send the god-dame murdere to Cambodian soil, disturbing Khmer monk with guns and nun from Khmer temple and you talking not to send Khmer army there? Everybody know these thugs black clad murdered love to kill un-arm civilian, and rap woamn, and now they are ready to spill monk and nun blood too? They are not welcome anywhere in Khmer land less in Khmer temple. They are evil re-incarnated. They got blood on there hands.And you Thai bitch even dare to suggest Khmer are on Thai mountain? What the shit!!
Down with the Thai thug aggressor!
Shut the f*** up,
"I think Thailand is not a bad country"? You make wrong comment at the wrong place and wrong time. I wonder how big your head compared to your brain? Put it this way: Don't you have a mother or father who owns property? If the neighbor let their dogs shit on your mother/father's property everyday, what are you going to do? Tell me!
F*** A SIEM
The LAW says Preah vihear temple belongs to Khmer and Siem took it.
I agree that our khmer government shouldn't take Thai mountain. It is not benefit for whole country. It cause longer trouble in our country and neighbour. Government should bring peace to people instead of bring trouble and hate to us.
Before we send troops there, I didn't see Thai has problem with our people. But, now we lead problem to people already.
We, Khmers, we are unlucky with our leaders.
I remember:
- In the sdach thmil sihanouk era, our brave soldiers were poorly equipped and used them to dig canals... because this thmil was afraid of the COUP.
- With the disabled Lon Nol, things went bad to worse. Our brave soldiers went to war with all their familybarefooted, badly equipped, badly paid.
- With Pol Pot, they were almost killed.
- With the last one, brainless Samdech AKEAK BOS DEY, they are use to any illicit trading except war training:
The reason why our powerful neighbours dare to compel us to give them our land.
Oust him on 27 before we will be homeless!
To ah comment 5.08
Ah eng at pouch mer ah eng min ches prodao niyeay youkong, chan es chan as ba psart.
Ah chos norork!
To 5:26AM
What Thaicong mountain? What the fuck are you talking about? Do you bullshit base on INTERNATIONAL MAP or the Thaicong map?
Get real you stupid Thaicong motherucker! Tell me who want the fucken trouble? Do you see Cambodian move their troop onto the Thaicong side of the border?
Stop blaming the victim stupid mother fucker! What belong to Cambodia will belong to Cambodia and what belong to the Thaicong will belong to the Thaicong according to INTERNATIONAL LAW and INTERNATIONAL MAP!
Sure Cambodian will welcome the fucken Thaicong with flowers and cheer them on to step on the Khmer head! Yeh right! The fucken Thaicong will be sorry if they don't withdraw from Cambodia!
I would support AH Hun Xen if he takes the Preah Vihear issue to international court.
But I won't support him to negociate with ah Siam thiefs to have our own land.
Hun Xen has something to hide, I am sure.
5:08am! asshole bastard.
How can you not get mad at the leaders who are so fucking corrupted, and so fucking negligent on the khmer's military.It's so fucking disturb to see some soldiers wearing sandal at the front line and knowing the leaders rob all the monies from them for themselve and became millionaires.Now the Thai are looking down on khmers, and invade us primarily because we are so fucking weak and so damn incapable in standing up against them ,and why don't you motherfucker see that.Khmers can be unite at this moment but khmers should also speak up against the fucking corruptions of its leaders,and every time someone did that then there is some fucking fag motherfucker like you standing up and defend them.Go to hell .
What? Just because people to wear sandal, their government is neglected them? What type of twisted logic is that?
""I agree that our khmer government shouldn't take Thai mountain. It is not benefit for whole country. It cause longer trouble in our country and neighbour. Government should bring peace to people instead of bring trouble and hate to us.""
Answering to who said this!! You are fucking crazy. Go to hell... Your head should be cut off then throw away because no value at all.You shit don't know even yourself and no education at all...
being a thai... I don't want anywar at all. now we have problems with rebel on the south and many more.. I don't want war with khmer brother. I know the Temple of Preah Vihea belong to you and all the area around. Pleas e forgive us thai people and our stupid government for making trouble on the area already awarded to Cambodia by International court. Please thai stop our stupid dream.
"To ah comment 5.08
Ah eng at pouch mer ah eng min ches prodao niyeay youkong, chan es chan as ba psart.
Ah chos norork!"
This guy is an example why Khmer keep fighting Khmer! This guy is an example why Khmer Empire fell. Khmer lost land because Khmer loves to fight and kill each other and meanwhile the Siam and Viet take advantages of that.
Hey, stupid Khmer that likes to fight other Khmer, you need to put aside your liking or dislike of other Khmer for any reason and stick together as one. Thai wouldn't be looking down on us if we're one strong people together.
Angkor fell because Khmer started fighting each other and too busy killing each other to stand against Siams.
So, stop all your bullshit and support each other in the time of crisis like this.
"One stick is easy to break but a bunch of them together is unbreakable." You should know that saying by now if you are really koun Khmer men. Now, it is the time to put that to practice and show Siams that we are united together unlike them (disarrayed and divided).
Come on guys we need to prompt Hun Sen to ask for the assistance of the UN.
The Siam is clearly buying up time to justify their invasion and claim the area around the temple.
How can the CPP government let this linger, Samak is changing his mind like every hour. It' obvious that you cannot have a serious talk the Siam.
The time that the Cambodia government waste will not help us kick the Siam troops out of our territory.
Stop denying the truth, Ah Karmen. Get your asses back to Cambodia for your own sake.
Who is fucking denying the truth huh? Ah siem motherfucking motherfucker!!! Open your fucking eyes and you'll see how the world is seeing your greedy nation, let us see when the case reach the UN, you cheap bastard nation!! What a shame nation in this century.
I did opened my eye, Ah Karmen, and I didn't see shit in the area that belongs to Cambodia: No school, no electricity, no road, no medical clinic...., and no people. What make you thing that the area belongs to you?
You are a traitor Khmer pretending to be ah fucking chiphai siem. No matter what, you are always against khmer.
Our ex-Khamen daeng will bleed you to shit there.
Stop changing the subject, fool. We are waiting for proof of ownership. Hurry up and stop stalling. No one can live forever, you know?
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