The Nation
The International Councils on Monuments and Sites is opposed to Cambodia's application to register Preah Vihear ruins as a world heritage site, the chief of Thailand's World Heritage Committee has said.
Pongpol Adireksarn, who was attending the 32nd Session of the World Heritage Committee in Quebec from July 2 to 10, said the ICOMOS disagreed with the listing of Preah Vihear because the application did not meet basic requirements for the listing.
He said the fact that Cambodia sought to register the temple without its surrounding landscape became a main reason that prompted ICOMOS to be opposed to the listing.
Pongpol said ICOMOS expressed opposition to the registration of Preah Vihear as a world heritage site on the first meeting day.
According to Pongpol, normally an application for a world heritage site needed to meet 6 basic requirements but Cambodia asked ICOMOS to consider only 3 requirements.
Still, Cambodia met only one of the three requirements, Pongpol said.
He said ICOMOS endorsed the evidence of creativity thinking for the listing but ICOMOS saw that Cambodia failed to meet two other requirements because it failed to include parts of the ruins on Thai soils in the application.
"I see that ICOMOS' decision reduced bargaining power of Cambodia. And this supports Thailand's stand that the site must be jointly registered," Pongpol said.
"ICOMOS is a professional organisation and expressed its opinions based on reasons."
He said ICOMOS saw that without landscape registering, Preah Vihear Temple would lack its outstanding identity.
Pongpol said Preah Vihear application would be the last one to be considered by the World Heritage Committee on the second meeting day.
Pongpol Adireksarn, who was attending the 32nd Session of the World Heritage Committee in Quebec from July 2 to 10, said the ICOMOS disagreed with the listing of Preah Vihear because the application did not meet basic requirements for the listing.
He said the fact that Cambodia sought to register the temple without its surrounding landscape became a main reason that prompted ICOMOS to be opposed to the listing.
Pongpol said ICOMOS expressed opposition to the registration of Preah Vihear as a world heritage site on the first meeting day.
According to Pongpol, normally an application for a world heritage site needed to meet 6 basic requirements but Cambodia asked ICOMOS to consider only 3 requirements.
Still, Cambodia met only one of the three requirements, Pongpol said.
He said ICOMOS endorsed the evidence of creativity thinking for the listing but ICOMOS saw that Cambodia failed to meet two other requirements because it failed to include parts of the ruins on Thai soils in the application.
"I see that ICOMOS' decision reduced bargaining power of Cambodia. And this supports Thailand's stand that the site must be jointly registered," Pongpol said.
"ICOMOS is a professional organisation and expressed its opinions based on reasons."
He said ICOMOS saw that without landscape registering, Preah Vihear Temple would lack its outstanding identity.
Pongpol said Preah Vihear application would be the last one to be considered by the World Heritage Committee on the second meeting day.
20 comments:
Keep going on guys we will get the temple listed.
"professional organisation" organization don't weigh much in the UNESCO balance.
Tuesday July 01, 2008
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PAD fooling the people
I cannot believe the lunatics at the PAD have actually got the Thai people and the Puea Pandin party fooled over the Preah Vihear temple.
"The line was drawn by the French in 1904, the International Court of Justice ruled on it in 1962, and the new line agreed by the Thai and Cambodian government actually brings more land into Thailand than the old map".
(LOOK, DEAR COMPATRIOTS! hOW THE TRAITOR YUON XEN SOLD OUR 4.6 SQUARE KILOMETRES TO AH BANDIT SIAM AT TRAKOL AS HE USUALYY SELLS OUR TERRITORY TO YUON).
Remove him for the next election by voting for SAMRAINSYPARTY.
If the Cambodian government is happy to concede some land to the Thais while retaining the temple that is, and has always been, on Cambodian soil, then it is a win for the Thai government.
This is just another example of the PAD stirring up issues trying to validate its existence. The fact that Puea Pandin party has weighed into it is disappointing; you would expect them to know better.
As for the Democrats, I hope they find the same demise the Australian Democrats recently have. Throwing stones at the government is good fun, but if you are never going to get a chance to run the country then it's a choice you can make without fear of having to prove you can do a better job.
The last Australian Democrats were voted out in November from the Senate and, as of July 1, the Democrats will be dead in Australia. Hopefully, the Thai Democrats will become history in the near future.
SHANNON CRANE
Gold Coast, Australia
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Nationalist bombast a little too late
I don't know what possesses the Thais lately who have started reclaiming the Cambodian Preah Vihear temple, 46 years after an international tribunal awarded it to Cambodia.
Anyone with more than a bird's brain will surely understand that this temple is clearly Cambodian (ever visited the site and compared it to Angkor?) and realise it is rather late to fire up their nationalistic bombast in order to get back the temple, as a spoilt brat would do.
By the way, the disputed 4.6 square kilometres around the site represents less then 0.01% of Thailand's territory.
As if common sense weren't enough to let the issue drop, just imagine the damage this whole issue could do to the relationship with Cambodia and the backlash from the international community, where Thailand already commands very little respect.
Wake up and don't politicise the issue to topple the government. The current administration hasn't done a lot lately, but their handling of the temple issue should probably be the least of the Thai people's worries.
JAMES GREEN
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Cambodian citizens must continue to protest, they must support the legitimate protests by the victims, they must demonstrate against the Cambodian Government and its accomplices. Cambodian citizens must protest against the Superpower and Powerful governments which maintain the corruption and the dictatorship of Mr. Hun Sen and his CPP. Cambodian citizens must, at the very least, write to these governments, even personally, to alert them and to ask them to honor their engagements for a fair application of the Paris Agreements which they also signed. Cambodian citizens must tell these governments that their support to this regime must come to an end, if they sincerely want peace for Cambodia and the wellbeing for its citizens.
The Cambodian citizens must react, and they should not expect anything from those who betrayed them and abandoned them, if they want their Nation to still survive.
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The Cambodia’s Border Committee
in France and Worldwide
(Singed) Dy Kareth,
Vice-President
Labels: 16th Anniversary, 1991 Paris Peace Accords, CFC, Vietnamese influence, Vietnamese interference, Vietnamization of Cambodia
Date: 09/30/2007
A P P E A L*
Beloved Compatriots/Fellow Teammates of SRP,
After 60 years of long and perilous journey, the Khmer nation has arrived to
witness a moment of 'true democracy' -- courtesy of SRP 2007 congress.
This vibrant moment is a giant step of the Khmers on their march toward an
effective democracy and should be crafted in the history book as a
demonstration of courage and a determination to be free for the fact that it
happened in the midst of political turbulences and influence imposed by our
'special friend' to the East.
It is a proud moment for SRP family, all Khmer citizens, and all
democracy-loving people in the world. If there is any dissention or
anything that, during and after the conclusion of the congress, can be
looked upon as counterproductive, it is nothing more than a showcase of
democracy in the making. After all, when freedom of expressions is, for
better or for worse, allowed to be freely exercised in flying colors, it is
democracy -- a golden key to modernization of the Khmer nation.
General public should appreciate the fact that the congress has also served
as a platform for testing Khmer political water. In this critical day and
age where little margins can be left for error, it is imperative that any
Khmer citizen would and should not have an ill-will to take advantage of
this moment to downplay or diminish in any way the resolve of SRP and its
livelihood to do the right things to serve and protect the Khmer people and
to reclaim Khmer right and legitimacy.
Realities dictate that the Khmer nation cannot, for whatever reason, afford
to remain divided as SRP members cannot, for whatever motives, afford to
provoke any separation in the SRP family. Unity is the mother of a nation.
This should be enough compelling for the leaders of all ranks to look at
each other eye to eye and, together, rid all evils from the national
territory. They must, at least, make this spirit of national unity a
lifelong contract with the nation. Adlai Stevenson once ventured: "
....patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the
tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime." We all owe that to our
motherland.
Arguably, patriotism has never seemed to be a question for the Khmers.
However and more than often, personal egos go too far and too deeply into
their minds to the point that they become a disruptive force of grand scale,
capable of inflicting permanent damages to the nation. A truth is that the
'Khmer civilization' could never have reached the historical status of
worldwide recognition without the luxury of many sustained centuries of
unity and stability enjoyed by the Khmer people. A better perspective of
how disunity has done to the Khmers is to direct the spotlight on Laos'
present political life, think and see through the mind of Kampuchea Krom
Khmers, and look closely at what has happened to the 'Middle Kingdom,' last
chunk of the once-dominant empire in Southeast Asia. Having done that, one
only need to find good valid reasons to reject the notion of how critical
and immensely important the 2008 general election is for the Khmers to be
Khmers, sovereign, independent, and free.
We are living in an era and at another crossroad where no past mistakes are
allowed to be repeated and no seeds of old obsolete political culture should
be nurtured or salvaged. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over
and expecting a different result," said Albert Einstein.
The steady rise of SRP from the tears and cries of the Khmer people and
through the flying gun bullets and threats of all shapes and forms, bloody
at times, speaks volume about the party's togetherness, persistence,
resilience, and boldness. We have traveled a very long road and our mission
is far from being completed.
Let us not lose focus on the course and direction we have set.
Let us not point fingers at each other.
Let us be the menders, not the splitters.
Let us manage and endure the growing pains and make this conviction a
measure of our inner strength and maturity.
Let us adopt a code of conduct of "seeing no enemy when looking at a Khmer
or an individual of Khmer origin."
* This article is written :
by Limhuot Nong, Ph.D in Florida , USA . He is advisor for
SRP-USA/Canada
He can be reached at his email address: limhuotn@cox.net
It's illegal to register stolen Khmer temple without their permission.
12:49 PM
From the mouth of a thief it does not weigh much.
Are you Khmer Hassan?
LOL
That's right, and you ain't keeping no Khmer's temple and land, Ah Hypocrite.
to 11:52pm
whoever you are "Thai-Chin" you do not represent Khmer. You are just a Nan Chao slave...ma dood khouy goo si!
So as Ah Fake Karmen, They are nothing more than French's, Korean's, Malaysian's,..., and Yuon's slave.
be wary, cambodia, it came out of thailand's official's mouth,not unesco. plus, i'm sure icj will think differently when cambodia have to consult the court again.
what bothers me the most was thailand kept saying a joint registration of preah vihear. this wishful thinking alone is enough for cambodia to say no, not in this life time or any other life time as cambodia feels that we have the saying as to whom we choose to do business with, and for thailand to meddle with this rights of cambodia goes to show thailand is obviously violate cambodia's sovereignty. again, this is a contempt of court (the icj that is, not the thai court) to say the least. thus, unesco should enforce this icj verdict, otherwise, unesco is not doing their job right by allowing thailand to violate the icj ruling. god bless cambodia.
Cambodia doesn't have any decision in the temple that is stolen from Khmer people in Issan.
Ah 5:15, the Khmer Issan people do not control the temple, ah pler. It is rather ah Nan Chao Siems instead, ah pler. Ah Nan Chao Siems control you Khmer Issan, ah pler!!!! Regain your independence NOW ah pler and rejoin Mother Cambodia. Don't you know that the Khmer ancestors started from Cambodia, ah pler.
How can they control anything, when you immoral people stole everything from them, huh?
12:49PM....
Only the Thailand and Cambodia are involved in the listing of the temple. Either Thailand wins or Cambodia wins. You see, whatever happens you khmer issan stuffs will not be able to own it. Would you rather wants the tai to win or the khmers to win. All khmers should own the temple, you think? Isn't it fair?
6:24 AM
You should go cry in your room, that will do you some good!
No, the on who will be weeping will be you as usual.
6:57, we just want our temple back. It is none of your business what we do with our temple. It's ours, just like our house, car, and boat, and we can sell it to China if we wanted to.
I just don't get ah lop so-called this one "Khmer" Issan shit. He would rather have ah Nan Chao Siem controlling the Khmer ruins, instead of Khmer people themselves???? Ah Pler, there is no official name as Khmer Issan ah lop. Ah Nan Chao Siem already subjugate for many generations already, ah pler. In addition, the issan region is now heavily populated by ah Liev people already, ah lop. So it is best that the Independent Khmer people retain control of the Khmer ruins instead of ah nan chao Siem foreigners, ah pler. What don't you understand ah pler. you are not free or independent, ah pler. The Khmer ancestors started out from the sea and moved inwards to escape from ah Javanese powerful navy and domination, ah pler. Lop mech jess, ah kanjeas ah Nan chao Siem. Yoo yoo pler tuv roke reung Khmer knear eng tuv vinh, kone ah truv krop baek. If you want to squabble go attack ah nan chao siems, ah pler.
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