Thank you Sokha for pointing out this letter!
Open Letter from NHRC to the UN Secretary-General on Pra Viharn
NHRC
29 July 2008
News
Dear Mr
Secretary-General,
United Nations.
No. 0001.04/224
26 July B.E. 2551 (2008)
Dear Mr. Secretary-General,
I am writing to you to express and register the most serious concern and dismay of the National Human Rights Commission of Thailand, an independent organ established under both Thai Constitutions of 1997 and 2007, over the blatant violation of human rights committed by organs of the United Nations in total disregard of the letters and spirit of the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, namely, the inscription by the World Heritage Committee (established within the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization pursuant to the Convention Concerning the Protection of the World Cultural and Natural Heritage of 16 November 1972) of the Temple of Pra Viharn or Preah Vihear on the World Heritage List, as unilaterally proposed by Cambodia.
Such decision with the reference number 32 COM 8B.102 by the World Heritage Committee at its 32nd Session in Quebec City, Canada, has clearly contravened the noble purpose of the UN Charter in promoting the development of friendly relations among nations, the very concept echoed in the preamble of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, as well as the provisions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights itself, especially Article 28, namely, “Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized”.
The events before and after the making of such decision by the World Heritage Committee show that the issue of sovereignty over Pra Viharn Temple itself and its surrounding areas has been highly contentious ever since the decision of 15 June 1962 of the International Court of Justice and the responding letter by the foreign minister of Thailand dated 6 July 1962 to the Acting UN Secretary-General, expressing Thailand’s disagreement with the said decision of the International Court of Justice and reserving whatever rights Thailand has or may have in the future.
Furthermore, the massive popular protests in Thailand over the perceived attempt by the current Government of Thailand to support Cambodia’s unilateral nomination of the Temple of Pra Viharn, culminate in the ruling by the Administrative Court granting an interim injunctive relief to suspend all the effects of the Joint Communique of 18 June 2008 between Thailand and Cambodia, and the decision by the Constitutional Court that the signing of the said Joint Communique was unconstitutional. These events were widely reported by domestic, regional and international media, making it somewhat inconceivable for UNESCO with its long presence and experience in this Southeast Asian region and its World Heritage Committee to profess ignorance of the ongoing dispute and the controversy surrounding the Pra Viharn Temple before the making of Decision 32 COM 8B.102, especially in the face of the protest of the Thai Government at the 32nd Session of the World Heritage Committee against the lack of due process in dealing with the unilateral nomination of the Pra Viharn Temple by Cambodia. Besides, the issue of Pra Viharn Temple has always been a special case stirring strong passion and a sense of injustice in Thailand. There was also the incident of the burning of the Thai embassy in Pnom Penh in January 2003. So the relationships between the 2 countries and peoples have gone through trials and tribulations already and should not be subjected to undue extra stress that will cause greater animosity and bitterness inside and between Thailand and Cambodia.
The above have raised serious doubt and questions about the manner in which the World Heritage Committee made its decision regarding the inscription of Pra Viharn Temple on the World Heritage List, especially from the human rights perspective, a fundamental international instrument of which, namely, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is supposedly enjoying its 60th anniversary this year. I therefore would like to bring to your attention some, if not all, of the questions and doubt as follows:
1. Who is responsible for the violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? The above decision of the World Heritage Committee has endangered the lives of those who live along the Thai-Cambodian border especially if a violent conflict arises and those people’s rights to life, liberty, and security has been seriously jeopardized. On 17 July 2008 there was a violent clash between the protesters from all over the country protective of Thai sovereignty and some villagers living near the Pra Viharn Temple fearful of losing their livelihood and security permanently due to the ongoing conflict. Unfortunately, the seed of a serious discord and threat to life has somehow, intentionally or unintentionally been sown by the World Heritage Committee. The 17 July incident could be merely a glimpse of things to come.
2. At present, the troops of Thailand and Cambodia are facing each other in combat readiness creating tension along the border which could escalate into a larger scale confrontation. The people of the 2 countries who have been living peacefully are now seeing peace being undermined by the decision of the World Heritage Committee. It is clear that the conflict as it is has deprived the peoples of Thailand and Cambodia of a favourable social and peaceful environment to exercise all their rights under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights because of internal disturbances and the escalation of animosity between the peoples of the 2 countries. Who, then, is responsible for this violation of Article 28 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
3. Why did the World Heritage Committee so hurriedly make the decision on “an exceptional basis” on 7 July 2008 overlooking the criteria of integrity crucial to the sustainability of the World Heritage status especially with full knowledge that the Pra Viharn Temple and its surrounding areas are still a matter of dispute between Thailand and Cambodia. Of course, the World Heritage Committee could claim that its decision does not prejudice the rights of the parties in the dispute by citing the wording of Article 11 (3) of the 1972 convention concerning the protection of the world cultural and natural heritage, namely, “the inclusion of a property situated in a territory, sovereignty or jurisdiction over which is claimed by more than one State shall in no way prejudice the rights of the parties to the dispute”. But such as attitude would reflect its insensitivity to the highly contentious nature of the Pra Viharn Temple issue and the sufferings of the people on the ground. In any case, such kind of decision does not help to promote friendly relations between nations, nor does it help create the social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights can be fully realized. On the contrary!. The World Heritage Committee should have a more mature judgment and care to consider that the joint management approach as the Pra Viharn Temple and its surrounding areas have still remained contentious, rather than arbitrarily allowing only the unilateral nomination by Cambodia.
4. Why did the World Heritage Committee not ask Cambodia to resubmit the nomination in the light of the change in the map of the property of Pra Viharn Temple as is normally the case? This neglect of the well-established practice concerning the documents submitted in any nomination has raised the suspicion if there is any hidden motive in this hasty decision of the World Heritage Committee in total disregard of the fundamental human rights of the peoples of the 2 countries.
5. Is the decision of the World Heritage Committee based on a sound archeological analysis taking into account the views of all parties concerned? It seems that the views of the Thai side have been consistently overlooked although the buffer and management zone as well as the overall landscaping of the Pra Viharn Temple is in the Thai territory.
6. It is even more puzzling that the World Cultural Heritage Committee has requested Cambodia, in collaboration with UNESCO, to convene an international coordinating committee for the safeguarding and development of the property no later than February 2009, inviting the participation of the Government of Thailand and not more than seven other appropriate international partners. How is the World Heritage Committee empowered to request Cambodia to convene such a committee in the first place and how could such invited countries be empowered to delineate the lines of the buffer and management zones in the areas where sovereignty and territorial integrity has been hotly contested? They are dealing with the matter of sovereignty which is clearly outside the authority of the World Heritage Committee.
All the above questions and doubt underscore a need for UN-related agencies to have transparency, consistency, integrity, and good governance as well as respect of the highest order for human rights. The acts committed by the World Heritage Committee and UNESCO have shown their insensitivity and total disregard to human rights especially of the peoples of Thailand and Cambodia. I wish to request you to set up an inquiry committee consisting of impartial persons of highest moral authority to find the answers to the above questions and to set a strong example that human rights be respected not only by member countries of the UN, but also by the UN itself and its related agencies. This should be a meaningful way to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Yours sincerely,
(Prof.Saneh Chamarik)
Chairperson National Human Rights Commission of Thailand
CC:
Mr. Koichiro Matsuura, Director-General, UNESCO
Mr. Francesco Bandarin, Director, UNESCO World Heritage Centre
Ms. Louise Arbour, High Commissioner for Human Rights
Mr. Homayoun Alizadeh, Regional Representative, OHCHR Regional Office for Southeast Asia
Member countries of ICOMOS including the under-represented ones
Member countries of the World Heritage Committee
All related and interested institutions
NHRC
29 July 2008
News
Dear Mr
OPEN LETTER TO THE UN SECRETARY-GENERAL
Mr. Ban Ki-Moon,Secretary-General,
United Nations.
No. 0001.04/224
National Human Rights Commission of Thailand
422 Phyathai Rd., Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330,
THAILAND.
422 Phyathai Rd., Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330,
THAILAND.
26 July B.E. 2551 (2008)
Dear Mr. Secretary-General,
I am writing to you to express and register the most serious concern and dismay of the National Human Rights Commission of Thailand, an independent organ established under both Thai Constitutions of 1997 and 2007, over the blatant violation of human rights committed by organs of the United Nations in total disregard of the letters and spirit of the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, namely, the inscription by the World Heritage Committee (established within the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization pursuant to the Convention Concerning the Protection of the World Cultural and Natural Heritage of 16 November 1972) of the Temple of Pra Viharn or Preah Vihear on the World Heritage List, as unilaterally proposed by Cambodia.
Such decision with the reference number 32 COM 8B.102 by the World Heritage Committee at its 32nd Session in Quebec City, Canada, has clearly contravened the noble purpose of the UN Charter in promoting the development of friendly relations among nations, the very concept echoed in the preamble of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, as well as the provisions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights itself, especially Article 28, namely, “Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized”.
The events before and after the making of such decision by the World Heritage Committee show that the issue of sovereignty over Pra Viharn Temple itself and its surrounding areas has been highly contentious ever since the decision of 15 June 1962 of the International Court of Justice and the responding letter by the foreign minister of Thailand dated 6 July 1962 to the Acting UN Secretary-General, expressing Thailand’s disagreement with the said decision of the International Court of Justice and reserving whatever rights Thailand has or may have in the future.
Furthermore, the massive popular protests in Thailand over the perceived attempt by the current Government of Thailand to support Cambodia’s unilateral nomination of the Temple of Pra Viharn, culminate in the ruling by the Administrative Court granting an interim injunctive relief to suspend all the effects of the Joint Communique of 18 June 2008 between Thailand and Cambodia, and the decision by the Constitutional Court that the signing of the said Joint Communique was unconstitutional. These events were widely reported by domestic, regional and international media, making it somewhat inconceivable for UNESCO with its long presence and experience in this Southeast Asian region and its World Heritage Committee to profess ignorance of the ongoing dispute and the controversy surrounding the Pra Viharn Temple before the making of Decision 32 COM 8B.102, especially in the face of the protest of the Thai Government at the 32nd Session of the World Heritage Committee against the lack of due process in dealing with the unilateral nomination of the Pra Viharn Temple by Cambodia. Besides, the issue of Pra Viharn Temple has always been a special case stirring strong passion and a sense of injustice in Thailand. There was also the incident of the burning of the Thai embassy in Pnom Penh in January 2003. So the relationships between the 2 countries and peoples have gone through trials and tribulations already and should not be subjected to undue extra stress that will cause greater animosity and bitterness inside and between Thailand and Cambodia.
The above have raised serious doubt and questions about the manner in which the World Heritage Committee made its decision regarding the inscription of Pra Viharn Temple on the World Heritage List, especially from the human rights perspective, a fundamental international instrument of which, namely, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is supposedly enjoying its 60th anniversary this year. I therefore would like to bring to your attention some, if not all, of the questions and doubt as follows:
1. Who is responsible for the violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? The above decision of the World Heritage Committee has endangered the lives of those who live along the Thai-Cambodian border especially if a violent conflict arises and those people’s rights to life, liberty, and security has been seriously jeopardized. On 17 July 2008 there was a violent clash between the protesters from all over the country protective of Thai sovereignty and some villagers living near the Pra Viharn Temple fearful of losing their livelihood and security permanently due to the ongoing conflict. Unfortunately, the seed of a serious discord and threat to life has somehow, intentionally or unintentionally been sown by the World Heritage Committee. The 17 July incident could be merely a glimpse of things to come.
2. At present, the troops of Thailand and Cambodia are facing each other in combat readiness creating tension along the border which could escalate into a larger scale confrontation. The people of the 2 countries who have been living peacefully are now seeing peace being undermined by the decision of the World Heritage Committee. It is clear that the conflict as it is has deprived the peoples of Thailand and Cambodia of a favourable social and peaceful environment to exercise all their rights under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights because of internal disturbances and the escalation of animosity between the peoples of the 2 countries. Who, then, is responsible for this violation of Article 28 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
3. Why did the World Heritage Committee so hurriedly make the decision on “an exceptional basis” on 7 July 2008 overlooking the criteria of integrity crucial to the sustainability of the World Heritage status especially with full knowledge that the Pra Viharn Temple and its surrounding areas are still a matter of dispute between Thailand and Cambodia. Of course, the World Heritage Committee could claim that its decision does not prejudice the rights of the parties in the dispute by citing the wording of Article 11 (3) of the 1972 convention concerning the protection of the world cultural and natural heritage, namely, “the inclusion of a property situated in a territory, sovereignty or jurisdiction over which is claimed by more than one State shall in no way prejudice the rights of the parties to the dispute”. But such as attitude would reflect its insensitivity to the highly contentious nature of the Pra Viharn Temple issue and the sufferings of the people on the ground. In any case, such kind of decision does not help to promote friendly relations between nations, nor does it help create the social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights can be fully realized. On the contrary!. The World Heritage Committee should have a more mature judgment and care to consider that the joint management approach as the Pra Viharn Temple and its surrounding areas have still remained contentious, rather than arbitrarily allowing only the unilateral nomination by Cambodia.
4. Why did the World Heritage Committee not ask Cambodia to resubmit the nomination in the light of the change in the map of the property of Pra Viharn Temple as is normally the case? This neglect of the well-established practice concerning the documents submitted in any nomination has raised the suspicion if there is any hidden motive in this hasty decision of the World Heritage Committee in total disregard of the fundamental human rights of the peoples of the 2 countries.
5. Is the decision of the World Heritage Committee based on a sound archeological analysis taking into account the views of all parties concerned? It seems that the views of the Thai side have been consistently overlooked although the buffer and management zone as well as the overall landscaping of the Pra Viharn Temple is in the Thai territory.
6. It is even more puzzling that the World Cultural Heritage Committee has requested Cambodia, in collaboration with UNESCO, to convene an international coordinating committee for the safeguarding and development of the property no later than February 2009, inviting the participation of the Government of Thailand and not more than seven other appropriate international partners. How is the World Heritage Committee empowered to request Cambodia to convene such a committee in the first place and how could such invited countries be empowered to delineate the lines of the buffer and management zones in the areas where sovereignty and territorial integrity has been hotly contested? They are dealing with the matter of sovereignty which is clearly outside the authority of the World Heritage Committee.
All the above questions and doubt underscore a need for UN-related agencies to have transparency, consistency, integrity, and good governance as well as respect of the highest order for human rights. The acts committed by the World Heritage Committee and UNESCO have shown their insensitivity and total disregard to human rights especially of the peoples of Thailand and Cambodia. I wish to request you to set up an inquiry committee consisting of impartial persons of highest moral authority to find the answers to the above questions and to set a strong example that human rights be respected not only by member countries of the UN, but also by the UN itself and its related agencies. This should be a meaningful way to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Yours sincerely,
(Prof.Saneh Chamarik)
Chairperson National Human Rights Commission of Thailand
CC:
Mr. Koichiro Matsuura, Director-General, UNESCO
Mr. Francesco Bandarin, Director, UNESCO World Heritage Centre
Ms. Louise Arbour, High Commissioner for Human Rights
Mr. Homayoun Alizadeh, Regional Representative, OHCHR Regional Office for Southeast Asia
Member countries of ICOMOS including the under-represented ones
Member countries of the World Heritage Committee
All related and interested institutions
47 comments:
"Great!!!!!!!Great!!!!!!!!
well said!! Well said
It was really a total violation of total violation of human rights
We must protest
We must protest"
Said some stupid Thais representing stupid Thailand.
Unbelievable...they are human beings or dogs???
Saneh Chamarik really great
he he as great as tupid man
this is just bullshit!!
Hey, What the hell of your stupid open letter to UN. What is Hunman rights committee in Thailand, like cruel and inhumanity? Mr. Saneh Chamarik, you look sound like gay was writtent this letter to UN.don't forget Mr. Bankimoon is not a gay like you shit?
P&P
Our Khmer brothers and sister around the world, please let your voices be heard by writing a responding to this idiocy as the address is available.
I didn't know that there are that many stupid people in Thailand.
What kind of professor is he?
An open letter to UN from a Cambodian:
Dear Mr Secretary-General,
I would like to stress that to accept a so-called Thailand as a seoverign country severly violates the Human Right of Cambodian people. I would like to ask some questions:
1. who is responsible for the shooting on Cambodian innocents at border
2. who is responsible for thai invading into Cambodian soil.
I would like to ask your excellency to rethink about the downgrade a place called Thailand to just a sub-state of soverign country Cambodia.
haaaaa,,,,,Thai complaints my ass,,if registering Preah Vihear as world heritage violates their fucking human rights, my complaints above is lawful too.
How Saneh Chamarik, this stupid guy can be a university professor? Damn shit professor? How can you live on this planet and ignore all the decisions by the international bodies as The Hague ICJ and the UNESCO? as well as the map signed by your own king Choulalongkorn? How ignorant this guy!
Siam is a criminal nation in southeast asia. Historical facts have proven this. Its people are a group of criminals who would do any thing to destroy rather than help fellow human beings to live in peace. And now it's talking about human rights violation. It's one really sick group of criminals so called siamese that changed to thai. An unleashed nuclear bomb is called for this criminal nation. Kill this Siam.
Another a Siem-Drunk who asks for the Thug's Human Rights .
Stealing is a Crime ?
Don't Prof. Saneh Chamarik know it,does he ?
Oh, we are fed up with the losers.
Where is the human right violation on the UNESCO decision? It is not a thai buisness at all.
Who built Preah Vihear?
Khmer or Thai?
The right answer is: Khmer.
Dear Prof.Saneh Chamarik,
We Thais support your decisions 100%, and invasion if needed.
We Thais couldn't withdraw our troops from the Prah Viharn. If chao Sihanouk wants to go to war, we are ready, our F-fighters pilots are standing by, our Canons H-105mm H-155mm and 175mm are ready for the order, our Tanks Model M1-A1 and A2 were deployed to the area to support our ground troops, We think, if the war breaks out, The Thais' Army will smash the khmene Army within a second.
Chao Sihanouk, wants to be the national Hero once again. Chao Sihanouk denounced Khmene to fight with Thais, he will be the big lost. This time Thailand's border realy at Vietnamese's border for sure. We can't wait for 100 years.
Khun Moeung Klang Kamhaeng,
Sukhothai,
Thailand.
Prof. Saneh Chamarik should investigate mass murdered of Thai army has been committed refugees and on going on unarm civilian since he is Chairperson National Human Rights Commission of Thailand. Also, the professor must investigate the army in the South whose heavey hand put stress on the minority there. There was an occurance happen that the army stacked all men in the army truck, hand bound that some of them died because they could not breath and that was a blantant/ourageous violation of human right.
And obviously, the Professor should put those Thai General on trial who committed treason by send the army to Khmer Land which is a violation of neighbor sovereignty.
Now, imagin if Saneh Chamarik is really is a Professor whose overtly ourageous with no shame, even dare to write a letter to a respected institution loaded with reason pulled from air how about the ordinary Thai whose lied has been spread by their school system would think about Preah Vihear?
Saneh Chamarik is really stupid and ignorant.
What the hell in the world is he talking about.
The UNESCO or world body is very clearly stated and listed Preah Vihear because it is belong to Cambodia (Khmer).
Go study the history, we (Khmer) built this temple.
The access to this temple was once part of Khmer (Cambodia) and Cambodian lands is way further inland to the Myanmar border.
Khmer will win!!
Chamarik is completely insane. He must be drugged by his king to write such a non sense letter.
Letter like this is not helping your country at all. It will bring contempt from the world community to Thailand.
For a human right guy have absolutely no respect for the international law.
Thai is a nation to invade its neighborings, before 13 century, Thai has not been formed a country yet as it did not have soveignty. Today all its neibors dont like Thai Such as Malaisia, Burma, Lao, Cambodia ....
From UN Secretary General,
Dear Dummy Saneh Chamarik,
I already received your dummy letter. Thank you so much for your concern regarding human right. It seems to me that you are like a KID who always skipped the school and outcry for candies even it is not belong to you. My question is that where you obtain your PHD and Professor title? bang cock university?..
I wonder why there is human right issues regarding PV as WH. It is really a domestic affair of Cambodia in which Thailand has no authority to deal with it. But instead it is your shit head army who created this problem by INVADING A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY. YOUR ARMY comes to threat and create fear among the Cambodian people.
I suggest you to study more and more about history and the root of your people and don't be ignorance to write such shit letter to me. I am so busy and I have no time to read such a dumb letter from your bastard.
Thank for your greed to Cambodian people.
UN secretary General.
Reported by Bang Cock Post
This Guy knows nothings about the World outside Thailand,
Keep on moaning, sore looser, It's just Human nature.
Ah Nan Chao 4:53, du ma cong cak, fool. Hhahha. You savage barbarian. Return the Khmer town of Sukothai to Khmer people of Cambodia, now you know what is good for you, fool. Hhahha. In this civilization age, you Thais are simply savages because you just can't respect the international law. Since you are lawless and history-less people, I suggest you savage barbarians return to Nan Chao shitholes and die there. Hahha. You want to fight the Khmer troops, you azzhole, here is a recommendation for all you stupid Thai. Before you even think of engaging the Khmer troops, first you should pour acid on your eyes. Then cut off your legs and arms. Then cut off your heads. Then you can roll your useless chopped up bodies to fight with the Khmer troops. Hahha. Stop being barbarians, you stupid illogical Thais. Learn to follow the rules of law, ah Siem arch kri. hhaha. Du ma Siem cong cak pler pler, Choy deck euy. Hhaha. User your war planes to drop the stink bombs on your heads and mouths because I heard that Thai people love to suck Khmer kador thom thom. Hhaha.
This letter may not even pass the Secretary desk. It so Childish.
Elder in LB, USA
Ah Nan Chao 4:53, du ma cong cak, fool. Hhahha. You savage barbarian. Return the Khmer town of Sukothai to Khmer people of Cambodia, now you know what is good for you, fool. Hhahha. In this civilization age, you Thais are simply savages because you just can't respect the international law. Since you are lawless and history-less people, I suggest you savage barbarians return to Nan Chao shitholes and die there. Hahha. You want to fight the Khmer troops, you azzhole, here is a recommendation for all you stupid Thai. Before you even think of engaging the Khmer troops, first you should pour acid on your eyes. Then cut off your legs and arms. Then cut off your heads. Then you can roll your useless chopped up bodies to fight with the Khmer troops. Hahha. Stop being barbarians, you stupid illogical Thais. Learn to follow the rules of law, ah Siem arch kri. hhaha. Du ma Siem cong cak pler pler, Choy deck euy. Hhaha. User your war planes to drop the stink bombs on your heads and mouths because I heard that Thai people love to suck Khmer kador thom thom. Hhaha
This is from my men in baja Cambodia,I think, and I like it.
Elder in LB. USA
CRY ME A RIVER YOU BLOODY SIAM!
When you fucking Thais over ran Angkor Empire and killed their Kings, queens, and millions of Khmers was that A VOILATION OF HUMAN RIGHT? you fucking retard! Now you lost a piece of ROCK and you CRY A RIVER.
Then you dumped Khmers refugees (like myself) in the landmines, was that A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHT?
Get the fuck out the here, you fucking bestard!
Don't let me see your fucking face in public!!!!
I hate the fucking Thais!!
Regards,
KhmerNY
You said it too much!!!!! and it is all wrong. It does not make sense at all Professor.
whatever, remember preah vihear is a cambodian affair not thailand. i'm sure cambodia think differently from the lame thai excuses. after all, they want steal cambodia's preah vihear all along, so why should it matter what they say about our preah vihear. no wonder the lost the icj verdict and the unesco decision recently. what else is new about thai's claim? cambodia, just take the case to the UN council and the icj once and for all so the world can tell thailand to stay out of our state affairs. god bless cambodia.
Where was the fuck Saneh Chamarik when the evil Thai killed hundreds of Cambodian during the 80s?
Hi 4.53 Am
As you mention
"Khun Moeung Klang Kamhaeng"
Where is it? or What does it mean?
Thai or Khmer language :D
Be brave!!! Be yourself
PRETENDING to be other/making a mistake between others...
it's a kind of COWARD
Stupid Saneh Chamarik,
what are you preaching about the Human Right? You evil Thai never respect the Human Right. You evil Thai killed many Cambodian refugees when you evil sent them back to the Preah Vihea mountain in the early 80s. Where were you, Mr. Human Right, Saneh Chamarik?
Violation of human right? This professor couldn't find anything else better to do and just found some lame explanations against the listing of Preah Vihear as a world heritage.
The temple is now a world heritage! You, a professor, should appreciate the effort of the Cambodian government and the decision of UNESCO and should not give any more problems to the UN.
Isn't it better to see the temple well-protected and well-maintained by having it as a world heritage? and your whole argument is about human right? You are disgrace! Isn't it better to have a good relationship between the two countries? or you're just being greedy and ambitious and would not spend one minute thinking about the suffering that Cambodian people have had endured? At this instance, people from both sides become very nationalistic but don't forget we still need to maintain conscience and rationale.
I'd like to reply to the comment made by a Thai guy who claimed "If chao Sihanouk wants to go to war, we are ready, our F-fighters pilots are standing by, our Canons H-105mm H-155mm and 175mm are ready for the order, our Tanks Model M1-A1 and A2 were deployed to the area to support our ground troops, We think, if the war breaks out, The Thais' Army will smash the khmene Army within a second." Without thorough thinking, this guy believed that Thai armed force will win EASILY! what a joke! Overconfident usually lead to failure. The international community is watching, Thailand will suffer great consequences if any military attacks (Army, Navy, Air-Force, paramilitary, paratroopers etc) on the Cambodian armed force and civilians are made and that does not even include the deep resentment that Cambodian people will have. Cambodian armed force may have not been modernized much but it is not a weak force. Troops stationed at the border are war-experienced troops. They have the morale, they have enormous and all types of support from the whole nation and their compatriots all over the world. Also, King Sihanouk has been a hero king and still is a hero of Kingdom of Cambodia. Thai must admit THEY LOST THE CASE IN 1962. For those Thais who are ultra-nationalist, I don't know how you live your life. You're isolated group of people who protest against your elected government and even clashed with your Thai people. You should be ashamed of yourself. Finally, I am from a younger Khmer generation and I am ready anytime to join my Cambodian army at the border and would not be scared a bit if I'm asked to go into battle with non-rational, ultra-nationalist Thai troops.
Canberra, Australia.
He only try to get a Job in Samack Government, since there is about a dozen to be filled.
Elder in LB, USA
Cambodians....My child
Go ahead beat the F... out of Thailand till she is Headless, same ways She did to us when We were in Turmoil.
Elder in LB, USA
After all, where does the Siam get their education from. This idiot called professor!
Their so-called higher educations is not so high after all.
1- UNESCO IS NOT STUPID AS THIS MOTHER-FUCKER SAID.
BEFORE THEY MAKE A DECISON THEY STUDY VERY WELL.
2-LET THIS MOTHER-FUCKER PROFESSOR CRY.
Dear Prof. Saneh Chararik,
In regarding to your letter, please explain...what is Pra Viharn? Do you mean Preah Vihear the KHMER Temple (NOT Siam) that was built by the KHMER king (NOT Siam) for KHMER people (NOT Siam) 900 years ago? If you are a Professor, you must be a very educated man; therefore, please use the correct name or else the world will not understand what you are refering. Professor, this is a 21 century and it is out of date if you are attempting to fool the world by twisting your history. Furthermore, it will yields a negative reflection on your educational system by robbing the history of your children.
For those of you that favor "invasion" to Cambodia...Are you sure that your "superior" military power is up to the task with the Khmer experience fighter? Can Siam afford to wage war with Khmer while the South Muslim brothers licking their chops? How about the Thai soldiers (Khmer Surin etc.) who considered themself to be Khmer race..what will they do when the war brake out? HUH..never thought about that did you? Please do invade us and you will see what will happen. Just like you, we Khmer have been waiting for more than 100 years and it is now our golden opportunity to get all of our land back. Please come in, we are waiting....
Dear all,
I'm a real Thai (not fake as your rude cambodian friends usually refer to motivate people of two nations hate each other).
I wonder that, Don’t you guy know the 2505 B.E. trial that the judgement indicate that Cambodia has the Sovereignty over only Pra viharn temple . Yes, you attach the French map but ICJ didn’t mention the map yet ICJ judge only 3 from 5issues. At that time Thai reserve all right to recall for Prasat Pra Viharn back in the future if we have the tight evidence.
Go back!, ask your PM what information he hide his people, ask for all documents (everything is centralized there, ask him). Your PM know well for this.
He tried to ask Thai Govt. many times to propose the only one side in the inscription Prasat Pra Viharn as a World heritage list but Thai Govt. had never accept. If it doesn’t, why he had to ask Thai Govt. (and also ask him what your nation’s properties have been sold to tyrant Thaksin)
Hun Sen should explain the truth to the people instead of let people misunderstand.
Your PM always lie to you and you also always lie to yourself.
It will be good if you see the all documents used for trials as Thai saw.
The surrounding Prasat Pra Viharn (4.6 km2) hasn’t been demarcated.
Thai try do everything in compromised way, set up a committee to demarcated join together with Cambodia. Insisting the watershed is standard criteria as the world do.
"Khom" is the ancient people who create Hindu style building in central/NE of Thailand and North of Cambodia. Khom is miserable vanish.
"Khom" is not Khmer.
More infomation about this you can find at National Library.(Don't find at Propaganda source)
Actually, it doesn't matter who build Prasat Pra Viharn but Where is the WATERSHED?
Whatever you compare Thai as Vietnam invade your land.
I don’t mention about Vietnam it’s your business.
For the things we did is only protect our sovereignty, what is ours, is ours.
We do the right thing in judicious and civilized way .
We don’t afraid of any international organizations but we have to be prudent more
for any operations.
But Why do you afraid of doing step by step? Why so hurry?
Slow but steady for the sake of 2 countries.
Does your Govt. afraid of facing the truth held by bilateral conference?
Now your Govt. accept anyway.
The things you guys do nowsaday is just open the war of word. It seems you don’t accept or listen anything except cry day by day for the things you want. Like a child want to have the toys. Emotion is over reason.
Don’t you accept peace, Cambodian?
Is it funny for you to just say in immature way or persuade people to be enemy?
What kind of living do you want to have in this word?
and How is your country going to develop with this situation?
Take it easy, anyway :-) :-D
From the dictionary of Human Rights, the new definition for Thais mean childish, stupid and doom.
Let me reply to 1:58 - the real thai:
- Damn straight: the judge indicated that the temple only belong to Cambodia! But Thailand is so damn coward afraid of letting the third party to interfere in the recent incident. AS a bully, and more powerful- if thailand think they are the real goody goody .... and the real-right owner of the area... why so damn coward!
- GO BACK to ask the PM: OH man! cambodia no need to ask anyone for their own HIstory, they did know well about their own HIstory. It is thailand who are unfaire offered not-all-fake history to their own CHILDREN: Let me say ... History education system in thailand just only make thai look good... the same as USA like to brag about WW1 WW2 KOrea War but dont like to talk about Vietnamese War. Thai are that KInd of guy...
-He try to ask to propose one-side: HOlly shit! are you some kind of bastard? It is my property why i need to share my own benefit with you guy! here is what in Cambodian Gover. think. It is you, thai coward know nothing but fake history and claim anything like a jerk!
-To let People not misunderstood: Thai are stupid enough to let their leader to fool them.... but not all thai,,, their some recognised thia Prof. who know hIstory and even give fair comment about temple, and he even know about the History... EVERY cambodian know the same history... but among thai the history are different from the know-nothing-stupid-and-fool-by-sentiment thai to the international recognized scholar.
-KHOM: Shit! Are you retard..? The word Khorm is made up by Thai for not allow themself to admit the whole old khmer empire and cowardly not admit khmer are descendant of Khmer Angkor. How many western People know about KHom, talking about Khorm, nothing... because they know that is just some stupid rediculous thai made up by their envious sentiment of their own history.
-Watershed: Dont kidding me man?
IF in contrast, the old map is belong to Thai, and said the area is belong to thailand...? do thai agree to the so-call watershed Map drawed by only thailand and her back-boss-brother USA more than 60 years later? Hell NO, This show that thailand just a coward BULLY.
-Thailand do not afraid of INternational ORg: Dont be a thick-face-no-shame Human Being...
-Afraid of Bilateral: Man, Who want to talk to a non-sense-unreasonable BULLY.
-Dont ACCEPT Peace: Everyone like Peace... but only in case you can.. NO one stay calm when someone come and hit them. Does thailand is reallly peacefull...NO because of your damn behavious,,, YOu call yourself live in peace yes maybe.. but why your country damn slow in pregressing,,, you are still in developing country list!
-HOw Develop: Without War... and Internal Problem,,, any country surround your country will rise higher than your head soon... example Vietname... Thailand ve never have war but look how far thailand go....marked as developing country... all thai are stupid, dont know how to develop their own Country? NO because thailand always make trouble with the niegbor Country as A BULLY.
Thai should take it easy! and dont act like you are some smart guy when what you are saying are non-sense with thai-standard which not recognized by international Ground
Be well,
STIMA
Siam guys, your guys have done on worst commitment onto Khmer for long period while KHMER FALLING DOWN IN SOME ERA, robbing, killing, jailing along the border. In the anscient era, there was no Siam homeland in Southeast Asia, remember and don't try to correct from Siam to Thai.
Khmer at the border and now at oversea.
The answers for prof. Saneh
1 - Who is resposible.... is THAILAND
2 - Who, then, is responsible for this violation of Article 28.... is Thai military
3 - Why did the World Heritage Committee so hurriedly make... they knows the history very well
4 - Why did the World Heritage Committee not ask Cambodia to..... they knows very well that land is belonging to khmer
5 - Is the decision of the World Heritage Committee based .... From the thai side, they see nothing
6 - How is the World Heritage Committee empowered to request Cambodia to convene such a.... they knows that it have not buffer or managent zones
I hope with this anwsers, prof. can sleep very well. The elephant dies, you try to hide it with a small fan, prof. ???
Khmer Human Rights Activist,
khemara,
Haha, dear professor ! Thanks for your ending,if you hadn't stated that you are holding a position as a professor,I wouldn't know anything about it. Your writing is great; but to my surprise it's just kind of freshmen's writing at my college. Anyway, I do appreciate you Thai people know every sorts of tricks. I should have joined you. But as my nature a Cambodian one, I have my ethic and concience. Oh let you know I am only 25 this year. But I think my word can tell and reflect more about my wisdom. Well, I can run a private class for you to strengthen your viewpoints or whatever, but not that trick. Sorry I can....
who cares!
these siemsare not worth wasting time on
I heard the rumors that this guy Prof. Saneh Chararik, is going to resign too.
Wow Thai is starting to crumbling!!
Wow, what kind of professor is this guy? A professor of ignorance or a professor of stupidity? Also, his title should read: Chairperson National Inhuman Rights Commission of Thailand for his blindness to the mistreatment of Muslims living in Pattani and Narathiwat regions.
I also have some comments for Sukhothai about going to war. You have no idea what war is, buddy. You think your classroom army can frighten our combat tested warriors. Think again. Our warriors will be ready for you at any time, and we’ll promise you a bloody war that people like you will regret for generations.
It's about you fcuking Saneh Chamarik Prof. dog ate shit blamed the World Heritage Committee decision granted The Preah Vihear Temple to Cambodian. It's not about Human Right you shit.
You are one of the fucking many thai who responsible for all of these problems, that's include disturbing UN Secretary-General, ,Mr. Koichiro Matsuura, Director-General, UNESCO
,Mr. Francesco Bandarin, Director, UNESCO World Heritage Centre
,Ms. Louise Arbour, High Commissioner for Human Rights
, Mr. Homayoun Alizadeh, Regional Representative, OHCHR Regional Office for Southeast Asia
, Member countries of ICOMOS including the under-represented ones
, Member countries of the World Heritage Committee
All related and interested institutions and personal included me, Wasting my time for reading your stupid open later.
You fucking Siames just like the Fucking Vietnamese crying thieves.
To 1:58 PM....
You got completely brainwashed by your king. Krom was referred to as Khmer Krom (Khmer below). Read this article written by a Thai scholar.
http://preahvihearnews.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/thaikhmerlovehat_2003.pdf
For the border and the temple. If you can make your map, so can we, if needed. ICJ judged that the temple belong to Cambodia and the had 10 years to prove otherwise. It did not happen. The disputed area is simple. To be a good neighbors, I would suggest that we divided the land equally by two. The story and hatred on both sides will end. History is history. Your monkey king who the one that has lied you.
The article on the site has the link
thaikhmerlovehat_2003.pdf
Please send email to Office of National Human Rights Commission of Thailand:
interhr@nhrc.or.th
or visit the site at:
www.nhrc.or.th
I have written him already:
Professor Saneh Chamarik,
Please kindly and gently inform Professor Saneh Chamarik that he should resigned from your post as Chairperson of the National Human Rights of Thailand, due to your ill and bias letter of the Secretary of the United Nation regarding to the Khmer Temple, Preah Vihear. This is not an human right issues. This is political issues. If he is so concern about human right issues, he ought to travel to Burma, Pattani, and other places in East Thailand.
KevinKhmer
Ah Siam schkourt!
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