Sunday, July 20, 2008
Bangkok Post
Pipop Thongchai, one of three PAD core leaders, said the time is opportune for Thailand to inform the international community that if the border demarcation between Thailand and neighbouring Cambodia is based upon the natural watershed, the contested area is definitely in Thai territory.Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej on Sunday said the disputed border area between Thailand and Cambodia is in "no-man's land" and that talks between officials of both countries are needed to iron out the dispute.
The Thai premier made the remarks after the Cambodian representative to the UN informed the UN Security Council on Thursday of alleged Thai incursion into its territory.
Speaking in his weekly television address, Mr. Samak said he preferred not to talk about the issue as the matter had already reached the United Nations and the Thai foreign ministry would take care of it.
Cambodia's permanent mission in New York submitted a letter to the chairman of the Security Council and the chairman of the General Assembly to "draw their attention to the current situation on the Cambodian-Thai border,'' Information Minister Khieu Kanharith said.
"Cambodia is not asking for UN intervention. We still stick to Prime Minister Hun Sen's instructions to try to solve the problem peacefully between the two sides,'' the Associated Press quoted the minister as saying in the Cambodian capital, Phnom Penh.
The disputed area claimed by both countries is the 4.6 square kilometres adjacent to the ancient Preah Vihear temple.
Troops of both countries have been reinforced in the area recently as Thai Supreme Commander Gen. Boonsang Niempradit and Cambodian Defence Minister Gen. Tea Banh are preparing to confer on Monday in Sa Kaeo province opposite Cambodia's Poi Pet on issues related to the ancient temple.
Officials of both countries have already inspected the hotel's meeting venue to ensure the safety of delegates attending the meeting which is scheduled to start at 10 am local time.
Meanwhile, the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), a group which coalesced thousands of people rallying for months to pressure the premier to step down, on Sunday urged the Thai government to inform the United Nations that the disputed zone adjacent to Preah Vihear temple belongs to Thailand.
Pipop Thongchai, one of three PAD core leaders, said the time is opportune for Thailand to inform the international community that if the border demarcation between Thailand and neighbouring Cambodia is based upon the natural watershed, the contested area is definitely in Thai territory.
He said past misunderstandings happened due to the Cambodian government use of a map drawn during the French occupation of Cambodia which determined the 11th century temple as well as the adjacent area to be in Cambodian territory.
18 comments:
Samak. You bastard son of bitch. Why do you send ThaiPolPot in black uniforms to invade Khmer territory?
Samak. Fuck off ah Siam Kri, May ah ThaiPolPot suffer in hell, may earthquake ad Tsunami hit hard and destory Bangkok soon like scientist predicted.
Stop your fucking arsewhole ah Samak Thaipolpot bastard son of bitch.
I would like to share my own opinion about the disputation between Thai and Cambodia. I have the pessimistic feeling for the meeting of the both country on monday next week in Sra Keo province. WHY? Because there are many reasons:
1) The General Anupong Padjinda, supreme commander of Thai Army said we must send more soldier to the disputed area to presure on Cambodia side for their negotiation.They don't have willing to deal this problem by fair and equality.
2) The prime minister of Thai, Samak Sundaravej said for replying letter to Mr. Hun Sen that The Kirisvarak Pagoda called ( Wat Pra Sat Preah Vihear) is locted in Thai sovereignty. But the real situation, it is in Cambodia sovereignty by legal of international law (ICJ decision 15 June 1962, The Franco-Siam treaties in 1904 and 1907, 46 years without proclaim this area belong to their country) and the historical area ( The Cambodian people have been living there too long year ago).
3) The representative of Thai for this meeting is Genaral Boonsang Niempradit. He is just a deputy chairman of Thai's GBC only, he does have the power to decide their decision and ordre to the thai soldier. the main powerful is in the hand of General Anupong Padjinda, a supreme commander of Thai Army.
4) The most powerful man is General Anupong Padjinda, not Prime minister Samak Sundaravej. Samak is hasitate to decide because he faces many enemies such The General of Army group, politicians of opposite party, King Phomvibol Adulyadeth, Adhisit Vejjajiva, leader of PAD and so on.
So it mean this meeting on monday in Sra Keo in null value for the both country.
According these points, we put the question how to deal this tension? the answer:
The firstly, the both country must try to find the solution by faithful negotiation. if no solution the both country must complain to ASEAN, UN's security council, ICJ(international Court for Justice) and UN because the both country are a member of ASEAN and UN. So the both country must respect the UN rule and UN's decision. if the any country don't respect the UN's desicion, The UN must kick out that country from the UN's member like UN has done on Taiwan and then UN must the UN's force to disputed area such KFOR at Kosovo in Serbia, UN's force at Darfu in Sudan and Estern Timor and so on. UN must protect the small and weakness country by international Law. I think it is the time for Cambodia follow this way to prevent the civil people and soldier life of the both country.
I hope the both will be glad to get this cool solution, they don't want to fight because of provoking of some small ultra-nationalist group. These small group don't represent the whole country. They are a just a small group who want to get power by using the extreme nationalist idea, they don't care the civil people, soldier life, economic in their country and whole area. They are the idiot people!!!
From Ramy, Chungnam University, South Korea.
If they kept on insisting that all this properties belong to them. Now it is time for us (KHMER) to announce to the world that we have the rights to reclaim our provinces (Main Lands) back.
We demand that Thailand give us back our provinces.
Never..ever trust this unworthy Thai!
Dear Mr Stupid Pipop Thongchai,
What's wrong in your head? why you said if the border demarcation between Thailand and neighbouring Cambodia is based upon the natural watershed, the contested area is definitely in Thai territory.
I can if the border demarcation is based on lively natural evidences, most part of Thai territory would be No THAI, but Cambodia!! Remember how many Khmer provinces are in Thai, and how many Khmer ancient temples are in Thai now?!!
If you don't want us to use the map and treaty between Siame & French, which map you want us use? Angkor Empire map??. Don't forget that your map was drown by Thai and recognized only by crazy Thai, but French&Siame and Angkor Empire's map is recognized internationally. The world knows that most of your land is part of Khmer Empire. So, that is ok if you want Khmer use this map!!
Angkor-Empire
HUN SEN, where is your Moeun Chhnam friendships of the three brothers?? The indochinese brothers!
Where are they?
Don't all these three brothers looking after each other??
HUN SEN do something!!
11:08 PM , SORRY I CAN'T DO NOTHING TO THIS MATTER , BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY BILLOIN DOLLAR DEAL WITH MY THAI COUNTER PART , SORRY MONEY COME FIRST.
HUN SEN ( KHMER , AH TI TEP )
Oh shut da fuck ah 11;32PM.U an't Khmer but ah Thai pol Pot from ah Xcamrainsy.
Good Thai is only the death Thai, ah 12:03Am ah looser need help? 911 Menthal hospital
#1: "Pipop Thongchai, one of three PAD core leaders, said if the border demarcation between Thailand and neighbouring Cambodia is based upon the natural watershed, the contested area is definitely in Thai territory."
Rebuttal: F*ck you azzhole stupid idiotic Pipop Thongchai. You are a stupid Nan Chao Siem and you will continue to be as such until the day you die, you stupid azzhole. You base your reasoning on the big "IF", you stupid mather f*cker??!!!?? There is no IF, you faggot Nan Chao Siem freak. Just review your Franco-Siem Treaty, you azzhole. However, if you want to argue based on "NATURALNESS" of the things and matters, then everything is all belonged to Cambodia because a Nan Chao Siem like you is just a stranger in the Khmer territory, you stupid mather f*cking retarded Siem arch Kri. hahhah. Just go back to your ancestral shitholes in Nan Chao ah pler Pipop ThongChai. Hhaha. You stupid son of a bitch, even your name of "Thong" already shows that you are perverted creep. Stop wearing "thong", you perverted criminal of Cambodian territory, you azzhole. hhahah.
#2: "He said past misunderstandings happened due to the Cambodian government use of a map drawn during the French occupation of Cambodia which determined the 11th century temple as well as the adjacent area to be in Cambodian territory."
Exactly, you azzhole PipopThong freak. It is based on legal document as you mentioned you stupid. You said it yourself you Thong perverted creep: Here it is:"...a map drawn during the French occupation of Cambodia which determined the 11th century temple as well as the adjacent area to be in Cambodian territory."
Now shut the f*ck up and go back to nan Chao you azzhole. The land is of the Khmer, for the Khmer, and by the Khmer, you stupid freak. hahhah. Man I am really annoyed this one mather f*cking Nan Chao Siem hellish creature.
Amen and God Bless Cambodia
I agree with you 100000%, 11:07 PM. Let use the map from Khmer empire.
this Pipop Thongchai is stupid idiot who speaks baselessly nonsence.
The Siam is returning to their root, talking one thing to day and another the day after.
Stay cool their must withdraw their troops unconditionally period.
if the border was perfect in all area, then what about the shade fo the dangrek mountain continue on into the present-day thailand boundary when thailand should have follow the watershed of the dangrak mountian. just look at the western end of the dangrak mountain chain, it's not even in accordance to the thailand claim to follow the watershed of the dangrak mountain chain. i guess siam expect it to be perfict marking or something without regards to the real, actual treaty that their gov't signed and agreed with at the time of the ratification of the treaty of the 1904 - 1907 franco-siamese treaty. i guess so much of their argument, that was why they lost to the icj verdict with their same argument. nothing new at all! same old argument that caused thailand to lose the icj verdict and now they still use same shit different day. i guess they must be retarded people and not able to understand the icj verdict and the franco-siamese treaty of 1904 - 1907 and not to mention unesco's recent verdict to list preah vihear as well. so, all in all, thailand violates all international laws and cambodian laws as well for incursing into cambodian sovereigned territory with intent to steal cambodia's land and preah vihear temple. very stupid and thieve-like of them, to say the least. i hope the world will give them a stern warning to give it up already as they seem to only afraid of the world's power as their national livelihood is so dependent on the global economy like export and import of their consumer goods to sale outside of their country like in the USA, cambodia, etc... perhaps they need the USA, the UN, the EU etc... to tell them to give it up already as they have no respect for the law and cambodia for that matter. no wonder khmer people like myself hated thailand and their people so much. what goes around comes around. god bless cambodia.
We have to stop living in the Dark Ages. It's time to start an New Era and move into the 21st Century. Let Joint Development paves the way.
That's right the Siam should start living in the real world not in the fantasy one.
There something call International Law, start by respecting and will talk later.
The problem is Thailand is not ruled by the corrupted International world. It has it owns sovereignty and laws.
The thai and vietcong can't be trusted !
To deal with the thai and the vietcong. Game have to played !
They both need to prove to khmer that they can be trusted or else, can't never be trusted.
Cause of history and current situation that is WHY!
Now you want to play this political card? Ok so here's the scenario: Perhaps you know you will gain some part of the territory coz you have
know that based on the ICJ'S VERDICT AND THE FRANCO-A SIAM BASTARD-TREATY, YOU MORON STUPID THAIS WILL NVER HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE. Or coz you base your invasion on any treaties signed by FOOLISH AND CORRUPTED POEPLE IN CAMBODIA GOVERNMENT, SO THAT'S WHY YOU ARE SO SURE TO WIN THE CASE. OR YOU WILL RELEASE THE SECRET THAT THE GOVERNMENT OF CAM DOES NOT WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR AS FOR YOUR WINNING TOOLS? OR TO PROVE THAT SAMAK GOVERNMENT HAS MADE WRONG DECISION WITH THE PREAH VIHEAR TEMPLE AND TOPPLE THE GOVERNMENT?
Now WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY AH THAI CHKOUT?
KHMER EMPIRE
Dear Thai Excellency,Mr Pip Pop,
I learned from your speech:
" Pipop Thongchai, one of three PAD core leaders, said the time is opportune for Thailand to inform the international community that if the border demarcation between Thailand and neighbouring Cambodia is based upon the natural watershed, the contested area is definitely in Thai territory.
You should find out any Thai advisors in mapping, if could not I could find out for you I know some thais who are former my Classmates in a University in Europe... they know well how to map and how to define demarcation naturally and/or techinical Dejue and de facto??
He said "past misunderstandings happened ......"
Are you Stupid or Ignore it ????
You should talk like normal educated people.
Oknha Achar Knoy
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