The implications of the Thai-Cambodian border dispute reach far beyond the 4.6 sq km of scrub around Preah Vihear
Tuesday July 29, 2008
Piyaporn Wongruang
Bangkok Post
The disputed area adjacent to Preah Vihear covers only 4.6 square kilometres - a very small area when compared to the total size of the countries of Thailand and Cambodia.
But neither of the countries can afford to lose any of this land.
This is not only because the area carries with it the issue of territorial sovereignty, which no modern state can bear to lose, but also because the final fate of the area could signify the future of other overlapping areas still to be demarcated, particularly those in the sea, military analysts say.
While a lot of people are concerned about the possible loss of territorial sovereignty over the disputed land to Cambodia, Vice-Admiral Pratheep Chuen-arom (retired) has been pondering what will happen to the disputed areas in the Gulf of Thailand, which cover about 20,000 square kilometres.
For months, the vice-admiral has reviewed the information to hand and applied the lessons he learned when commander of a patrol fleet in the Gulf. He has decided to make public his concerns.
"When we lost Preah Vihear temple, we lost spiritually," said Vice-Admiral Pratheep.
"But if we lose the claimed land again, there is very much more at stake to be lost."
Over a hundred years ago, Thailand was forced to demarcate its borders with two imperial powers, Britain (which ruled Burma and Malaya) and France, which had colonised Indo-China, including Cambodia.
Some maps helping define the borders between Thailand and states under protection of those imperial countries were drawn up. However, these were not officially accepted by Bangkok, especially those covering the border between Thailand and Cambodia.
While Cambodia continues to use the French maps, Thailand has its own versions and has used them as its border references. And because they use different maps, the two countries claim different borderlines.
Along the 800km territorial border between Thailand and Cambodia, there are at least 15 areas awaiting agreement from both sides.
But the issue does not stop there.
According to Vice-Admiral Pratheep, the border line was drawn down to the sea. From the 73rd kilometre territorial border peg in the district of Khlong Yai, in Trat province, France had drawn the boundary line cutting through part of Thailand's Kud island, while Thailand drew a different line close to Cambodia's Kong island.
This resulted in the different marine maps showing different sea boundaries. Typically, a marine border extends out 12 nautical miles, or about 22km, from a country's coastline.
The sea territorial boundaries play a crucial role in determining exclusive economic zones, where countries can claim natural resources, including those under the seabed.
Exclusive economic zones usually extend out to 200 nautical miles, Vice-Admiral Pratheep said. Because the two countries claim conflicting territorial boundaries, their claimed economic zones in the Gulf overlap by about 20,000 sq km.
Besides marine resources, those problematic zones also house huge petroleum deposits, which both countries thirst for, he said.
So, if the French-drawn maps were accepted, much of the area containing oil and gas deposits would go to Cambodia, Vice-Admiral Pratheep said.
"What is foreseeable is that the disputed territorial areas on land can be a model for the overlapping sea boundaries, because they are based on the same French mapping principle.
"The problem comes from the same root, which is mapping based on unequal treatment by powerful countries in the past," he said.
Over the past few weeks, Vice-Admiral Pratheep has teamed up with other senior officers, including Gen Pathompong Kesornsuk, to awaken the public to the implications that the loss of the 4.6 sq km of overlapping land near Preah Vihear would have on the overlapping sea territory.
Gen Pathompong, who is a chief adviser to the Supreme Command, previously raised his concerns about the ramifications of the French maps, writing letters to high-ranking military officials, as well as Privy Council president Gen Prem Tinsulanonda.
The general cited the lack of continuity and integration of work by Thai officials, from policymakers to officials at implementation levels.
Thailand and Cambodia formed the Joint Technical Committee in 2001 to work on the matter, but little information has been released, triggering suspicions of conflicts of interest by the politicians involved.
According to Vice-Admiral Pratheep and reports from Cambodia, the Cambodian government has already granted permission to some US oil companies to explore petroleum resources in the disputed waters.
In November 8 last year, Cambodia's Deputy Prime Minister Sok An, who is chairman of the Cambodian National Petroleum Authority (CNPA), declared a "breakthrough" regarding the petroleum exploration by Chevron Overseas Petroleum (Cambodia) Ltd, which obtained permission from Cambodia to explore petroleum resources in 2002.
The speech delivered by Mr Sok An that day noted that Chevron had drilled up to 15 wells in Block A, which covers about 6,200 sq km and is around 200km off the coast of Cambodia.
The company has found some evidence of oil deposits.
The CNPA now has other petroleum agreements signed with various companies for six offshore blocks.
Mr Sok An's speech further noted, "We remain committed to resolving the matter of the Overlapping Claims Area in the Gulf of Thailand with the Royal Government of Thailand.
'The overlapping area covers around 27,000 sq km that is thought to be highly prospective for petroleum accumulations."
Tuesday July 29, 2008
Piyaporn Wongruang
Bangkok Post
The disputed area adjacent to Preah Vihear covers only 4.6 square kilometres - a very small area when compared to the total size of the countries of Thailand and Cambodia.
But neither of the countries can afford to lose any of this land.
This is not only because the area carries with it the issue of territorial sovereignty, which no modern state can bear to lose, but also because the final fate of the area could signify the future of other overlapping areas still to be demarcated, particularly those in the sea, military analysts say.
While a lot of people are concerned about the possible loss of territorial sovereignty over the disputed land to Cambodia, Vice-Admiral Pratheep Chuen-arom (retired) has been pondering what will happen to the disputed areas in the Gulf of Thailand, which cover about 20,000 square kilometres.
For months, the vice-admiral has reviewed the information to hand and applied the lessons he learned when commander of a patrol fleet in the Gulf. He has decided to make public his concerns.
"When we lost Preah Vihear temple, we lost spiritually," said Vice-Admiral Pratheep.
"But if we lose the claimed land again, there is very much more at stake to be lost."
Over a hundred years ago, Thailand was forced to demarcate its borders with two imperial powers, Britain (which ruled Burma and Malaya) and France, which had colonised Indo-China, including Cambodia.
Some maps helping define the borders between Thailand and states under protection of those imperial countries were drawn up. However, these were not officially accepted by Bangkok, especially those covering the border between Thailand and Cambodia.
While Cambodia continues to use the French maps, Thailand has its own versions and has used them as its border references. And because they use different maps, the two countries claim different borderlines.
Along the 800km territorial border between Thailand and Cambodia, there are at least 15 areas awaiting agreement from both sides.
But the issue does not stop there.
According to Vice-Admiral Pratheep, the border line was drawn down to the sea. From the 73rd kilometre territorial border peg in the district of Khlong Yai, in Trat province, France had drawn the boundary line cutting through part of Thailand's Kud island, while Thailand drew a different line close to Cambodia's Kong island.
This resulted in the different marine maps showing different sea boundaries. Typically, a marine border extends out 12 nautical miles, or about 22km, from a country's coastline.
The sea territorial boundaries play a crucial role in determining exclusive economic zones, where countries can claim natural resources, including those under the seabed.
Exclusive economic zones usually extend out to 200 nautical miles, Vice-Admiral Pratheep said. Because the two countries claim conflicting territorial boundaries, their claimed economic zones in the Gulf overlap by about 20,000 sq km.
Besides marine resources, those problematic zones also house huge petroleum deposits, which both countries thirst for, he said.
So, if the French-drawn maps were accepted, much of the area containing oil and gas deposits would go to Cambodia, Vice-Admiral Pratheep said.
"What is foreseeable is that the disputed territorial areas on land can be a model for the overlapping sea boundaries, because they are based on the same French mapping principle.
"The problem comes from the same root, which is mapping based on unequal treatment by powerful countries in the past," he said.
Over the past few weeks, Vice-Admiral Pratheep has teamed up with other senior officers, including Gen Pathompong Kesornsuk, to awaken the public to the implications that the loss of the 4.6 sq km of overlapping land near Preah Vihear would have on the overlapping sea territory.
Gen Pathompong, who is a chief adviser to the Supreme Command, previously raised his concerns about the ramifications of the French maps, writing letters to high-ranking military officials, as well as Privy Council president Gen Prem Tinsulanonda.
The general cited the lack of continuity and integration of work by Thai officials, from policymakers to officials at implementation levels.
Thailand and Cambodia formed the Joint Technical Committee in 2001 to work on the matter, but little information has been released, triggering suspicions of conflicts of interest by the politicians involved.
According to Vice-Admiral Pratheep and reports from Cambodia, the Cambodian government has already granted permission to some US oil companies to explore petroleum resources in the disputed waters.
In November 8 last year, Cambodia's Deputy Prime Minister Sok An, who is chairman of the Cambodian National Petroleum Authority (CNPA), declared a "breakthrough" regarding the petroleum exploration by Chevron Overseas Petroleum (Cambodia) Ltd, which obtained permission from Cambodia to explore petroleum resources in 2002.
The speech delivered by Mr Sok An that day noted that Chevron had drilled up to 15 wells in Block A, which covers about 6,200 sq km and is around 200km off the coast of Cambodia.
The company has found some evidence of oil deposits.
The CNPA now has other petroleum agreements signed with various companies for six offshore blocks.
Mr Sok An's speech further noted, "We remain committed to resolving the matter of the Overlapping Claims Area in the Gulf of Thailand with the Royal Government of Thailand.
'The overlapping area covers around 27,000 sq km that is thought to be highly prospective for petroleum accumulations."
13 comments:
I thought that Preah Vihear was built by the Khmer Kings who're mostly Hindu, and why Thais claimed to lose the land when they didn't have one from the begining?
Thais were from black river in China and millions still live in North Vietnam, and Thais were never been Hindu, why do they cry over the Khmer Hindu Temple?
Why this guy said Thais lost spiritually, after ICJ returned Khmer Hindu Temple to the rightful owner Khmers?
Sins of the Thais come to haunt them for what they did to Khmers in the past.
Everyone just pray if this dictator King Bhumibol of Thailand will speak on his deathbed and confess why did he shot King Ananda Mahidol, his own brother on the head in cold blood?
Thailand is the only country in the world still practices Lese Majesty Law created by the absolute Chakri family, commonners for more than 200 years, since
1782. Hopefully he is the last King in Thailand after enjoy his rule and reign for more than 60 years, he will finally be dead, so every Thai can stop displaying his picture or stop standing up in the theater without punishement of going to jail or being killed by his criminal son HIV infected or by his military, or by his ah mey ah thong.
I think the Thai needs to use its military might and test the current leadership to see if this leader is up to the challenge, or just bluffing. Yes, I really want the Thai kick the current administration.
DEAR THAI FRIEND !
Thai is not lost the land
(1). Because 4.6 Km sqaires is recognized by your King Choula lang Korn, Thus if you do not recognized it mean you look down your ancester, You know SIEM-INDOCHINA treaty we have give the lnad to you such as Surin, Sisaket, Tun Borey, Daun Say, and we just get back our land Battam Bang, Preash Vihear(Molouprey), and Siem Reap. Thus if you do not accept this treaty mean we still wanted to get our land back Surin, Sisaket, Chanborey,..etc.
We are heart a lot that you never learn to live in peace. Your heart see and happy on our khmer land.
Your king Event in 1962 your respect King now, Adol Ya Deth, recognized it. Now you draw a mape that said those are your land. Please make an analysis again.
(2). We have many of land spots that are being invaded by you. As we are being in the war.
(3). You never recognized it mean you cut your throught your selves as your ever invaded others countries like Malaysia land, the ex. Sri Vijaya. Myamar, Lao.
(4). Now it is the year 2008 , man, look at it every countries they respect people not the time of NANCHAO, that your nation started, with no land and became Thailand today.
(5). If you are intelligence enough you have to make an ballance why all nations around you dislike you like a faecus...aninal...etc
(6). Be a people be a Nations thus rethings again you wanted to go out of law like NANCHAO period or what asked your queen SURIN THORN.
(7). IN 1995 we know that your country have been making a secret contract with Vietnam to shares our sea 30.000Km AND 30.000KM to Vietnam. This is a bullshit 0f your animal King and Queen SURIN THORN. You steel us. This is the SIEM.
(8). We never get any land from you !
(9). If you do not wanted to learn in peace one Day you will go back to NANCHAO, China. because even now Malaysia, Mayamar,Lao , Khmer, will seeking to push you back.
You are not a man or women you are the ANIMAL as you do not know what is right, what is law, ....international peacefull,...ect
The end of THAI, SIAM, back to NANCHAO, younan, China.
MUSLIM, in Thailand
I think so too, but the thugs in PP are Khmer rouge and they have some tough guys behind. Furthermore Thailand cannot afford to have war.
We have people behind that we prepared all bom and militants, administration,...etc to fight the SIAM back.
Muslim, the groups of Binladen
this is interesting...the CPP make a great stand against the thai; however, they give away much-much land include a major island to the viet...why didn't they defended khmer sovereignty against the viet???
12:05 PM
You are idiot anti-royal Thai. Who cares the shit about your damn country?
Samdach Decho Hun Sen Should use Iron Fist/Steel Fist as he used to use within Cambodians..." But I think Khmer fight strongly only with Khmers...."
We have many Generals, Excellencies, Samdachs.. Ministers Deputy Minister Deputy Prime Ministers....
Governors..... Pleasde use Iron Fist NOT plastic Fist.."
The Khmer army is brave only with Khmer... this remind me about the Land Dispute with People in Cambodia... Thai understand well the Psycological Conditions of Khmers through land dispute while Armed forces are used to grab Lands by high Rank Officials,,Tycoons...I remember they also shot People Cows/buffollos when they walk around the Land of Tycoon Ly Yong Phat in Koh Kong... alot of cows/oxes...as animals were killed by our armies... BUT WHEN THE SIAMS CAME/COME IN OUR TERRITORY OUR GENERRALS ARMIES BECOME QUIET UNDER PRETEXT OF PEACEFUL PATIENT NEGOTIATION.....
"I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT KHER ARMY DO NOT DARE TO SHOT SIAMS ROBBERS....."
"THAI LOOK DOWNM ON OUR GOVERNMENT"
Thi believes that Khmer Leaders will surrender.."
"..This is a National Embrassement"
Please remember Copmpatriots....
Excellency Bandit General Oknha Achar Knoy= Phd. from Chea Chamreorun Unv. PPenh.
I hope HUN SEN will do anything to guard our lands and sea.
Do not exchange or swap of nothing with Thai.
Thai have nothing to excange with us only steal from us and exchange with us.
Please take a closer look HUN SEN.
Khmer have a golden opportunities can overcome all these obstacles.
4.6km2 is important to us. If you let this lost the surrounding area will be Thai's tourist attraction.
We can develop and build alot of infrastructures on that 4.6km2.
HUN SEN needs to be tough with the SIAM. Please keep your strong stance.
Go Khmer Go!
Go Decho Sen go!!
if thailand can't accept the france map, then the boundary with vietnam and laos that cambodia lost should also be returned to cambodia to include wat phu temple, and the entire mekong delta region belongs to cambodia if it weren't for the french-made map. hello!!! the bottomline is thailand stole our land by looting and invasion when cambodia is fighting each other for the throne in cambodia. again, wasn't that the dark ages though? however, we are not in the dark ages anymore, so why are we talking about this? just respect the treaty of 1907 and stop making any more lame excuses, thailand. you lost the icj verdict and violated the treaty of 1907 by unilaterally redrew your own map to claim land and seas boundaries from cambodia. that is so in violation of the treaty of 1907. and this is what the UN council will scrutinize - the legality of the treaty for the entire boundary line, not just around preah vihear or whatever!!!!!! god bless cambodia.
"The problem comes from the same root, which is mapping based on unequal treatment by powerful countries in the past," he said (Thai Vice-Admiral Pratheep).
= There is no one on this planet Earth who has more irrational thinking and illogical reasoning than the Thai leaders! These Thai leaders like to twist Cambodian history to fit their need and their ego to show the world of how powerful and influential the Thai politic on Cambodia!
Now! I want to know. What is so unequal treatment about the Thai who doesn't want to be colonized by the European Powers? If the Thai were willing to submit to colonialism and maybe the Thai can get special treatment from the British or the French! But the problem is the Thai was never wanted to be colonized and now they complain about unequal treatments which help save them from colonialism!
So who can blame Cambodia for wanting to be French Protectorate which helps save Cambodia from Thai and Vietnamese aggression! For Cambodia being a French Protectorate, Cambodian people were never treated anything special more than the Vietnamese! Because the French allowed the Vietnamese to work as Cambodian government officials at every level in Cambodian government while Cambodian people were looking down by the French as being lazy, uneducated, and not hard working! So is this how the Thai people want to be treated under the French colonial master? Of course not! So what is the point for the Thai to complain about unequal treatment under the French?
Now that the Thai leaders are in the spot light on the issue of violation of Cambodian territory, The French map of Cambodia which recognized by International Community and United Nations will be used to verify every square inch of Cambodian territory on Thai side and the Vietnamese side to see if they both had violated Cambodian territory in anyway shape or form! Cambodian leaders can’t afford to have endless ongoing bilateral talk between the Thai and the Viet to solve Cambodian border conflict because bilateral talk is nothing more than a whisper which nobody can hear or understand including International Community or the United Nations!
I believe International Community and United Nations have a role to play in helping Cambodia in verifying the French International Map to end the Thai-Viet-Cambodian conflict! Otherwise the Thai and the Viet will insist on using their own map to violate Cambodian territory forever! At the end, I believe there won’t be peace and stability in the mainland Southeast Asia!
Now you know why even the Vietnamese government blocked Cambodian leaders from seeking the help from United Nations to solve the Thai-Cambodia conflict because the Vietnamese government is also in violation of Cambodian territory too!
I do not want that people/publics Call "My Samdach Decho as A frog in the nmarrow well.."
Samdach should use all force physically, mentally morally diplomatically, politically and militarilly to protect our territory as You have had effort to protect your Power for some decades... Please Samdach.....
Do like you have done so far with Innocent Khmer People e.g in land Grabling....and with all political Parties to hand Power Gaining...."
Samdach I frankly ask you ARE YOU AFRIAD OF THAIS THIEVES???"
If so tell us franmkly we will unit our human resources worldwide to help solving this problem.. Come on .."
History will note your name forever......
Excellency Bandit General Oknha Achar Knoy-Phd. from Chea Chamreourn Poli-Technical Multi-Techn. Unv. Phnom Penh, Cambodia
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