By Marwaan Macan-Markar
BANGKOK, Jul 18 (IPS) - Amornchai Sirisai has been a regular visitor to the Thai-Cambodian border close to where a 10th century Hindu temple sits atop a steep cliff. But it is not tourism that takes the Thai national to the ancient site.
He has been working for two non-governmental organisations (NGOs) engaged in clearing landmines on the Thai side of the border near the temple in the northern Cambodian province of Preah Vihear, where the Khmer Rouge made its last stand before surrendering in 1998.
The area is pockmarked by shell craters and land mines being cleared by the Japan Alliance for Humanitarian Demining Support (JAHDS) and the Mekong Organisation for Mankind (MOM) to make the temple, built by the Khmer kings who ruled Cambodia, more accessible to local and foreign visitors.
But these days it is not the fear of people stepping on landmines that worries the project manager of MOM. The temple has been at the centre of a bitter dispute after Cambodia won international approval this month to recognise Preah Vihear as a World Heritage site. The committee that gave Phnom Penh the nod to list the temple as its own is an affiliate of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO).
by Thursday with hundreds of troops ordered by both countries to maintain vigil near the border. Fuelling this tense environment were hundreds of Thais belonging to an anti-government group who rushed to the spot to chant nationalist slogans, Tension between the two South-east Asian neighbours reached a dangerous leveldeclaring that the Preah Vihear temple belonged to Thailand and had been ‘’stolen’’ by Cambodia.
‘’The situation here is getting bad. It has not been like this before,’’ Amornchai said during a telephone interview from Si Sa Ket, the Thai border province that faces the temple. ‘’Both countries have ordered soldiers near the border. They are facing each other.’’
The growing wave of strident Thai nationalism -- and anti-Cambodian slogans -- has already delivered a sharp blow to the government of Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej.
Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama was forced to resign after he returned to Bangkok on Jul. 10 following the meeting of the World Heritage committee, which ruled 8-1 in favour of Cambodia getting the ancient temple, dedicated to the Hindu deity Shiva.
Across the border, Prime Minister Hun Sen’s Cambodian People's Party (CPP) has been using the UNESCO approval to list the temple as a World Heritage site to advantage in its campaign for parliamentary elections scheduled for Jul. 27, 2008.
Moderate Thais say nationalists are refusing to accept recent history and facts that strengthen Cambodia’s claims to the temple upheld in 1962 by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at The Hague. The Thai government, under a military dictatorship in 1963, accepted the verdict but claimed ownership of a small area of land between the temple and the Thai border which offers the main access route to the historic site.
‘’As a member of the U.N., Thailand had to accept the ruling and hand the temple over to Cambodia. In the decades since, there has been no legal bid to reclaim the site,’’ wrote Supalak Ganjanakhundee in a commentary in Thursday’s edition of ‘The Nation’ newspaper. ‘’In the language of the law, de facto and de jure, the Hindu temple of Preah Vihear belongs to Cambodia.’’
Yet the recent burst of tension at that particular point on the Thai-Cambodian border is not the first. In November 2004 Thai troops were ordered to patrol their side of the border over another disagreement regarding the sliver of no-man’s-land area. And there have been times over the past seven years when locals and foreigners seeking to enter the temple from the Thai side have been denied access by Cambodian officials.
The dispute is seen as a legacy of French colonisation of Indo-China when Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam were under the grip of Paris. Thailand, which was never colonised, remained a buffer between the French colonists, to its east, and the British, to its west and south. The current border that separates Thailand and its two eastern neighbours was drawn up by French officials.
Yet the border that separates Thailand from Cambodia and Laos is dotted with grey areas that have sparked disputes in the past. Towards the end of 1987, Thai and Laotian troops clashed over a territory that Laos claimed was part of its Xaignabouri province, while the Thais claimed the area belonged to its Phitsanulok province. By the time a ceasefire was declared in February 1988, over 1,000 soldiers were killed, most of them Thais.
The current dispute which threatens to sour Thai-Cambodian relations could not have come at a worse time for Bangkok. It is getting ready to take over as the head of the Association of South-east Asian Nations (ASEAN), a 10-member regional bloc of which Thailand and Cambodia are members. The others are Brunei, Burma, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Vietnam.
Last November, ASEAN leaders signed a charter for the regional body aimed at greater integration to create a unified community at the political, economic and social level by 2015. This legally binding document was an attempt to revamp the group’s relevance on the world stage.
ASEAN was created in 1967 to stall the spread of communism in the region and advance free-market policies. But its usefulness began to fade with the end of the Cold War in the early 1990s and the financial crash mid-way in that decade.
Now, a growing wave of nationalism is posing a further challenge to the new chapter on stronger regional unity that ASEAN wants to write. ‘’Bruised nationalism is stimulating feelings of hatred between Thais and Cambodian,’’ says Supalak. ‘’Anti-Cambodian sentiment is growing stronger as Thais -- who consider themselves superior to their south-eastern neighbours -- feel they have lost face (because of the temple).’’
BANGKOK, Jul 18 (IPS) - Amornchai Sirisai has been a regular visitor to the Thai-Cambodian border close to where a 10th century Hindu temple sits atop a steep cliff. But it is not tourism that takes the Thai national to the ancient site.
He has been working for two non-governmental organisations (NGOs) engaged in clearing landmines on the Thai side of the border near the temple in the northern Cambodian province of Preah Vihear, where the Khmer Rouge made its last stand before surrendering in 1998.
The area is pockmarked by shell craters and land mines being cleared by the Japan Alliance for Humanitarian Demining Support (JAHDS) and the Mekong Organisation for Mankind (MOM) to make the temple, built by the Khmer kings who ruled Cambodia, more accessible to local and foreign visitors.
But these days it is not the fear of people stepping on landmines that worries the project manager of MOM. The temple has been at the centre of a bitter dispute after Cambodia won international approval this month to recognise Preah Vihear as a World Heritage site. The committee that gave Phnom Penh the nod to list the temple as its own is an affiliate of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO).
by Thursday with hundreds of troops ordered by both countries to maintain vigil near the border. Fuelling this tense environment were hundreds of Thais belonging to an anti-government group who rushed to the spot to chant nationalist slogans, Tension between the two South-east Asian neighbours reached a dangerous leveldeclaring that the Preah Vihear temple belonged to Thailand and had been ‘’stolen’’ by Cambodia.
‘’The situation here is getting bad. It has not been like this before,’’ Amornchai said during a telephone interview from Si Sa Ket, the Thai border province that faces the temple. ‘’Both countries have ordered soldiers near the border. They are facing each other.’’
The growing wave of strident Thai nationalism -- and anti-Cambodian slogans -- has already delivered a sharp blow to the government of Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej.
Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama was forced to resign after he returned to Bangkok on Jul. 10 following the meeting of the World Heritage committee, which ruled 8-1 in favour of Cambodia getting the ancient temple, dedicated to the Hindu deity Shiva.
Across the border, Prime Minister Hun Sen’s Cambodian People's Party (CPP) has been using the UNESCO approval to list the temple as a World Heritage site to advantage in its campaign for parliamentary elections scheduled for Jul. 27, 2008.
Moderate Thais say nationalists are refusing to accept recent history and facts that strengthen Cambodia’s claims to the temple upheld in 1962 by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at The Hague. The Thai government, under a military dictatorship in 1963, accepted the verdict but claimed ownership of a small area of land between the temple and the Thai border which offers the main access route to the historic site.
‘’As a member of the U.N., Thailand had to accept the ruling and hand the temple over to Cambodia. In the decades since, there has been no legal bid to reclaim the site,’’ wrote Supalak Ganjanakhundee in a commentary in Thursday’s edition of ‘The Nation’ newspaper. ‘’In the language of the law, de facto and de jure, the Hindu temple of Preah Vihear belongs to Cambodia.’’
Yet the recent burst of tension at that particular point on the Thai-Cambodian border is not the first. In November 2004 Thai troops were ordered to patrol their side of the border over another disagreement regarding the sliver of no-man’s-land area. And there have been times over the past seven years when locals and foreigners seeking to enter the temple from the Thai side have been denied access by Cambodian officials.
The dispute is seen as a legacy of French colonisation of Indo-China when Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam were under the grip of Paris. Thailand, which was never colonised, remained a buffer between the French colonists, to its east, and the British, to its west and south. The current border that separates Thailand and its two eastern neighbours was drawn up by French officials.
Yet the border that separates Thailand from Cambodia and Laos is dotted with grey areas that have sparked disputes in the past. Towards the end of 1987, Thai and Laotian troops clashed over a territory that Laos claimed was part of its Xaignabouri province, while the Thais claimed the area belonged to its Phitsanulok province. By the time a ceasefire was declared in February 1988, over 1,000 soldiers were killed, most of them Thais.
The current dispute which threatens to sour Thai-Cambodian relations could not have come at a worse time for Bangkok. It is getting ready to take over as the head of the Association of South-east Asian Nations (ASEAN), a 10-member regional bloc of which Thailand and Cambodia are members. The others are Brunei, Burma, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Vietnam.
Last November, ASEAN leaders signed a charter for the regional body aimed at greater integration to create a unified community at the political, economic and social level by 2015. This legally binding document was an attempt to revamp the group’s relevance on the world stage.
ASEAN was created in 1967 to stall the spread of communism in the region and advance free-market policies. But its usefulness began to fade with the end of the Cold War in the early 1990s and the financial crash mid-way in that decade.
Now, a growing wave of nationalism is posing a further challenge to the new chapter on stronger regional unity that ASEAN wants to write. ‘’Bruised nationalism is stimulating feelings of hatred between Thais and Cambodian,’’ says Supalak. ‘’Anti-Cambodian sentiment is growing stronger as Thais -- who consider themselves superior to their south-eastern neighbours -- feel they have lost face (because of the temple).’’
9 comments:
The Preah Vihear temple must be free of damaged.
Otherwise, Thai must responsible.
It is belonging to the United Nations.
Why ah Hun Xen don't dare to fight the thief Siam?
In my opinion, this maffia leader has already sold our land to Samak as he had sold our land and KOH TRAL to YUON.
Dear compatriots, Wake-up, remove this treaitor and his clan! and fight the invaders SIAM and at the same time to complaint to UN
as our King father did.
Together we will win!
King Father on Preah Vihear issue
Thursday, 10 July 2008
Unofficial Translation from French
Written by The Phnom Penh Post
Communique from Norodom Sihanouk
Phnom Penh, 8 July 2008
I. Certain journalists are writing that the main entrance to the Preah Vihear temple faces Thailand and not Cambodia.
II. The Thais have said, say and have written and write that one of the “proofs” of Thai ownership of Preah Vihear is constituted by the fact that access to the temple is infinitely more easy from the Thai side rather than from the Cambodian side.
III. These journalists and these Thais seem to ignore the following historic facts, ones which amply prove that the mountain and the temple of Preah Vihear are 100% Cambodian and belong 100% to Cambodia.
a/. The construction (10th and 11th centuries) of Preah Vihear by two successive Khmer Kings and is a purely Khmer work.
b/. The mountain and the temple of Preah Vihear could be found, during the 10th and 11th centuries, “very much in the interior” of Kampuchea, in the Khmer Empire, of which the borders extended for hundreds of kilometers, to the north, the east and west, much further than the current Cambodian borders with Thailand and Laos.
As a consequence, the mountain and the Preah Vihear temple could be found not on the Cambodia-Siam (Thai) border but “deep in the interior” of the Kingdom (of the Khmer Empire) and the “main entrance” of Preah Vihear “looked” not towards Siam (Thailand) but to Kampuchea.
c/. The International Court in the Hague, which in 1962, rendered justice to Cambodia, did not ignore all this, and let me, once again, offer them a respectful and admiring homage.
d/. Thanks to Khmer Sovereignty and the Khmer empire (Angkorian in particular) , present day Thailand is very rich in Angkorian style Khmer temples and monuments.
[It is] absolutely wrong and gives proof to the meanness, which, in Thailand, causes to Cambodia and its people undeserved and anachronistic troubles concerning the temple of Preah Vihear, instead of devoting ourselves to the harmonious and fruitful development of our friendship and our (authentic) brotherhood (Thai-Cambodian).
(signed) Norodom Sihanouk
There is not such thing called Issan province. It is the north-eastern region in Thailand. Are you Khmer from Si Sa Ket province? If so, go and help stop the demonstrators near the border. Can you speak Khmer? Your province is the poorest province in Thailand. You need our temple to economically survive. I understand that is why you want the temple badly. Don't worry, even though the temple belong to us, we will share with you in terms of tourists money. But first you have to stop the stupid Thais from claiming that the temple belongs to them. Use your brain, if you have one, to make sense of things nowadays. Things that happens centuries ago are histories. If you really want to talk about history, half of Thailand belongs to Khmer Kings. If you don't realize this, your brain may be of a side of a penut, which is smaller than those of monkies guarding the temple.
It is all started when the Thaicong government allowed their three undercover Thaicong civilian protesters to cross Cambodian border illegally and the three Thaicong civilians were detained by Cambodian authorities for breaking Cambodian law! The Thaicong government used the detention of the three Thaicong civilian protesters for breaking Cambodian law as an excuse to come into Cambodian territory to rescue them! The issue of Thaicong civilian protesters illegal crossing into Cambodia can be solved through diplomatic channel especially through the Thaicong embassy in Cambodia and why the fuck Thaicong military need to rescue Thaicong civilians who are break Cambodian law? Is this a fucken Thaicong hostage crisis on Cambodian soil? Of course not! So now as the Thaicong military personnel pour into Cambodian territory, the Thaicong government twisted the whole story 360 degree and now the whole story is about protecting Thaicong territory and sovereignty and it is no longer about rescuing the three Thaicong protesters who are breaking Cambodian law! The Thaicong government is blaming everything on Cambodia for violating Thaicong territory and Thaicong sovereignty! The Thaicong even blame Cambodian authorities for the troop build up! When did this happen about Cambodian military going to into Thailame to violate their territory and sovereignty? I want to know!
To make the matter worst, the stupid Cambodian authorities condoned the Thaicong aggression since day one by arguing for the Thaicong aggressor that the Thaicong aggrssor were using a different map which led to the confusion and that the local authorities can solve the matter themselves! So tell me what map does the stupid Cambodian authorities are using? Are they using the Thaicong map or International Map or the World Map? By saying the Thaicong were using a different map, the stupid Cambodian authorities had accepted military defeat because they allowed the Thaicong aggressor to use their map (not international map) to violate Cambodian territory and sovereignty at free will! And now the stupid Cambodian authorities are asking the Thaicong government to withdraw their troop from Cambodia? ahhahha It won’t be long the Thaicong military will use their Thaicong map to claim Angkor Wat and what can the stupid and incompetent Cambodian authorities do now? Oh well! The stupid Cambodian authorities can always say that is the confusion and the wrong map again! Ahhahahhahahhahahhah!
I never thought Cambodian authorities can be so stupid and incompetent! If anything needs to be done in solving the Thaicong civilian illegal border crossing and it would have been done on the very first day! It doesn't matter whether it is Thaicong civilians or Thaicong military personnel and they all must be stopped at the border crossing from entering Cambodia! And to allow the Thaicong military personnel to enter Cambodia in the hundred and heavily arm as if they are walking for a picnic and to have Cambodian soldiers sleep among as if they are brother and sister is unspeakable! It is a fucken joke to have stupid Cambodian authorities repeatedly warned Cambodian soldiers not to fire or start anything first unless the Thaicong fire on them first! As far as I am concerned the Thaicong military doesn't need to fire a single because they have successfully occupied Cambodian land and break Cambodian sovereignty already! Now it is too late for stupid Cambodian authorities to do anything and the Thaicong military is occupying Cambodian land and they are here to stay!
It is painful to be stupid and yes the Cambodian authorities are one motherfucker and they are feeling the pain right now because they can’t make the Thaicong government to withdraw their troop from Cambodia and all of them deserve to be executed at noon!
By the way, the Thaicong are creating the fucken problem in the first place and they are blaming the stupid Cambodian authorities for the problem! It is time to let the bullets fly and make the blood flow and I want to see death bodies because there is a price to be paid for violating Cambodian sovereignty!
superior my ass, the thai are stupid. they're not that better than cambodia. maybe just economic is a little better due to they have peace and prosperity due to foreign tourists, trades, etc. with the outside world like mostly the USA. however, wait until cambodia's turn for economics develop. watch, cambodia will be much better than thailand, soon to come. as for their culture, religions, tradition, etc. i think they have non, consider they borrowed most from cambodia's past, and of course, they also borrowed from the western world too. just look at their country 30 years ago, they weren't that prosperous, so everything modern like infrastructures etc. are built recently due to their economic develop with the western world. and don't forget they owed a lot of their economic prosperity from the millions of tourists who visited and spent their money in thailand. so, now it's cambodia's turn as nothing good can last forever in thailand. soon, tourists will find it boring and mundane in thailand and so they will come to cambodia for a change of scenery, food, and of course to be different as they see no boundary. cambodia may be left out for now, but believe me, it won't be left out for much longer to come. it works like this in a free market, water tend to percolate to the lower ground from the higher ground, and it can be said about cambodia as well, naturally. meaning, if you build and provide good service, tourists will come naturally to spend their vacations, holiday, visit, etc... in cambodia. they already did all of that in thailand, so it's cambodia's turn sooner or later. watch this space! god bless cambodia and all our beautiful khmer people.
Cambodia should be ashame for playing old trick to steal temple and land from poor Khmer people in Issan Province.
Yet the border that separates Thailand from Cambodia and Laos is dotted with grey areas that have sparked disputes in the past. Towards the end of 1987, Thai and Laotian troops clashed over a territory that Laos claimed was part of its Xaignabouri province, while the Thais claimed the area belonged to its Phitsanulok province. By the time a ceasefire was declared in February 1988, over 1,000 soldiers were killed, most of them Thais.
Thailand can't even defeat the lao that has a few millions people back then(1987-1988)with their 50+millions and all the advance weapon.The lao even has less experience fighting the war as compare to combodian.And now the thai want to test the cambodian ability????you will need much more than 1000 coffins,thailand.Just look at what they are doing in the preah vihear compound,they came in there as a target for cambodian troop who are well positioned above them.I bet these thai-black uniform will really turn black in the first day of fighting.I think they can come in very easily,but the cambodian troop may not let them out at all.what a dumb as thai soldiers and commander.they just don't have any clue to fight the war.No wonder why they can not control the situation in their south which caused by a couple of weaponless separatist with their 30,000 good looking troops.Muslim south,chance for you to gain your independence is getting closer and closer,don't give up yet.Their government are fighting and they want to cool their anger over cambodia.If thailand start the war with cambodia,you all muslim south just rise up and revolt against thai at the same time,cambodia may supply you with weapons you need.
You stupid idiot (3:32). Thai, Lao, and Viet are Chinese rooted people. They are not Khmer Rouge who massacre its own people.
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