CHA-AM, Thailand, Aug. 19 (Xinhua) -- No new agreement has been reached yet after hours of negotiations between Thai and Cambodian delegations led by respective foreign ministers over the disputed border around the Preah Vihear temple on Tuesday at Thailand's central resort town Cha-am, Phetchburi province.
The meeting between Thai Foreign Minister Tej Bunnag and his Cambodian counterpart Hor Namhong and a parallel study group by military and related border affairs officials opened on the morning at a hotel in Cha-am, some 220 kilometers southwest of Bangkok and near the beach resort town Hua Hin.
The meeting is aimed to find a peaceful solution to a long border dispute regarding a 4.6-sq-kilometer area around the 11th-century ruins of the Khmer-style Hindu temple of Preah Vihear, listed recently by UNESCO as a World Heritage, and to lay down foundations for future cooperation on demarcation and demining work along the disputed border.
The meeting lasted some six hours with a short lunch break before the two ministers left for a scheduled audience to the Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej at the royal summer palace at nearby Hua Hin, where the King now resides, at around 4:30 p.m. (0930 GMT).
They will return to the hotel in the evening to continue the meeting, which was supposed to end within the day. However, the anticipation for a conclusion of success or breakthrough was low, as both sides had strong claims over some points that made the negotiation hard to pass through, sources said.
This is the second-round talks on a ministerial level. The two foreign minister had their first talks on July 28 in Siem Reap, Cambodia, which produced no big breakthrough.
As a result of the talks and a good gesture before the second meeting, however, the two sides did remove most of their military personnel, which have been quickly strengthened since mid-July to an estimated 1,000 more from each side, along the disputed border around the temple since Saturday.
On Tuesday afternoon, outside the hotel, a number of Thais had a quiet protest against Cambodia's "occupation" of Preah Vihear site and surrounding border areas, by raising banners which reads "Cambodia get out."
Earlier before the meeting started, Tharit Charungvat, spokesman for the Thai Foreign Ministry, said the atmosphere between the two ministers was good on Monday when they met and joined in a dinner, and that the situation has been improving a lot, as the tensions at the border have been eased as a result of the military "redeployment" following previous talks under bilateral mechanism including the General Border Committee which started early July and the Foreign Ministers' first meeting.
Tharit reiterated that territorial dispute is normal for any two neighboring countries, and that the situation for Thailand and Cambodia has now cooled down.
Thailand hopes that Tuesday's meeting would turn out positive results, and "the situation will go back to normal as soon as possible", but he could not give the timetable for when the planned border demarcation work and complete military retreatment from the zone in question would start or finish.
Before Tuesday's talks, only about 10 soldiers from each side remain at the Keo Sikha Kiri Svara Pagoda on the access to the Preah Vihear temple, which sits at the border between Thai northeastern province of Si Sa Ket and Cambodia's Preah Vihear province, following a respective "redeployment" since Saturday, and some 20 others from each side at areas nearby for patrol.
The military stand-off, which has seen a quick increase of military personnel along the disputed border zone by each side, started after three Thais, including a monk, were briefly detained by Cambodian authorities on July 15 for "intruding Cambodian territory" by breaking into the Preah Vihear temple compound to declare Thai sovereignty over the temple.
The temple was awarded to Cambodia in a 1962 verdict of the International Court of Justice, which some Thais have been reluctant to accept. The dispute became a hot issue when Cambodia launched efforts to bid for the listing of the temple as a World Heritage Site last year.
The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) World Heritage Committee approved Cambodia's application early last month, triggering a wave of national sentiment in Thailand urging the Thai government to take counter actions in defense of territorial sovereignty.
Then Thai foreign minister Noppadon Pattama was forced to resign last month for signing a joint communique to endorse Thai support for Cambodia's World Heritage bid without prior parliament approval, which was later held unconstitutional. Veteran diplomat Tej Bunnag was appointed as the successor just in time for the first ministerial talks on July 28 in Siem Reap, Cambodia, which produced no breakthrough but an agreement on "military redeployment" along the disputed border.
Earlier Reports from Phnom Penh quoted Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Hor Namhong as saying before leaving for Thailand on Monday that he was optimistic about the second bilateral meeting "to seek peaceful resolution to withdraw the troops totally from the Keo Sikha Kiri Svara Pagoda and the surrounding areas of the Preah Vihear Temple."
The meeting between Thai Foreign Minister Tej Bunnag and his Cambodian counterpart Hor Namhong and a parallel study group by military and related border affairs officials opened on the morning at a hotel in Cha-am, some 220 kilometers southwest of Bangkok and near the beach resort town Hua Hin.
The meeting is aimed to find a peaceful solution to a long border dispute regarding a 4.6-sq-kilometer area around the 11th-century ruins of the Khmer-style Hindu temple of Preah Vihear, listed recently by UNESCO as a World Heritage, and to lay down foundations for future cooperation on demarcation and demining work along the disputed border.
The meeting lasted some six hours with a short lunch break before the two ministers left for a scheduled audience to the Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej at the royal summer palace at nearby Hua Hin, where the King now resides, at around 4:30 p.m. (0930 GMT).
They will return to the hotel in the evening to continue the meeting, which was supposed to end within the day. However, the anticipation for a conclusion of success or breakthrough was low, as both sides had strong claims over some points that made the negotiation hard to pass through, sources said.
This is the second-round talks on a ministerial level. The two foreign minister had their first talks on July 28 in Siem Reap, Cambodia, which produced no big breakthrough.
As a result of the talks and a good gesture before the second meeting, however, the two sides did remove most of their military personnel, which have been quickly strengthened since mid-July to an estimated 1,000 more from each side, along the disputed border around the temple since Saturday.
On Tuesday afternoon, outside the hotel, a number of Thais had a quiet protest against Cambodia's "occupation" of Preah Vihear site and surrounding border areas, by raising banners which reads "Cambodia get out."
Earlier before the meeting started, Tharit Charungvat, spokesman for the Thai Foreign Ministry, said the atmosphere between the two ministers was good on Monday when they met and joined in a dinner, and that the situation has been improving a lot, as the tensions at the border have been eased as a result of the military "redeployment" following previous talks under bilateral mechanism including the General Border Committee which started early July and the Foreign Ministers' first meeting.
Tharit reiterated that territorial dispute is normal for any two neighboring countries, and that the situation for Thailand and Cambodia has now cooled down.
Thailand hopes that Tuesday's meeting would turn out positive results, and "the situation will go back to normal as soon as possible", but he could not give the timetable for when the planned border demarcation work and complete military retreatment from the zone in question would start or finish.
Before Tuesday's talks, only about 10 soldiers from each side remain at the Keo Sikha Kiri Svara Pagoda on the access to the Preah Vihear temple, which sits at the border between Thai northeastern province of Si Sa Ket and Cambodia's Preah Vihear province, following a respective "redeployment" since Saturday, and some 20 others from each side at areas nearby for patrol.
The military stand-off, which has seen a quick increase of military personnel along the disputed border zone by each side, started after three Thais, including a monk, were briefly detained by Cambodian authorities on July 15 for "intruding Cambodian territory" by breaking into the Preah Vihear temple compound to declare Thai sovereignty over the temple.
The temple was awarded to Cambodia in a 1962 verdict of the International Court of Justice, which some Thais have been reluctant to accept. The dispute became a hot issue when Cambodia launched efforts to bid for the listing of the temple as a World Heritage Site last year.
The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) World Heritage Committee approved Cambodia's application early last month, triggering a wave of national sentiment in Thailand urging the Thai government to take counter actions in defense of territorial sovereignty.
Then Thai foreign minister Noppadon Pattama was forced to resign last month for signing a joint communique to endorse Thai support for Cambodia's World Heritage bid without prior parliament approval, which was later held unconstitutional. Veteran diplomat Tej Bunnag was appointed as the successor just in time for the first ministerial talks on July 28 in Siem Reap, Cambodia, which produced no breakthrough but an agreement on "military redeployment" along the disputed border.
Earlier Reports from Phnom Penh quoted Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Hor Namhong as saying before leaving for Thailand on Monday that he was optimistic about the second bilateral meeting "to seek peaceful resolution to withdraw the troops totally from the Keo Sikha Kiri Svara Pagoda and the surrounding areas of the Preah Vihear Temple."
6 comments:
I must admit that some Cambodian people are so stupid! This is getting ridiculous a how some stupid Cambodian people resort to reason that it is because of weak Cambodian government for the reason the Thaicong want to invade Cambodia and some even use the middle east conflict as an example of how the United Nations fail to play their role! The most famous reason is that Cambodian is tired of fighting the war even if the Thaicong or the Vietcong come to cut Cambodian people throat and burn down their house! So tell me what else I want to know!
It seems that Cambodia as a country is nobody business or interest and nobody want to help Cambodian people to protect their sovereignty in the face of the Thaicong naked aggression! If Cambodia is nobody interest why even bother sign the Paris Agreement involving the United Nations called UNTAC for! Why does United States have to build their embassy in Cambodia for? Why Cambodia has to join the ASEAN block for? Why...
So here are the logics!
Some stupid Cambodian people claimed that Cambodian government is so weak and the Cambodian government can never protect Cambodian sovereignty from the Thaicong naked aggression but why AH Khieu Kanharith claimed that Cambodia do have enough weapon to protect Cambodian sovereignty! Some stupid Cambodian people claimed that the United Nations can never help Cambodia because the United Nations can’t even help the Middle East conflict and the Middle East conflict is a religious conflict which supported by world super powers and there is no way the UN can help bring an end to the middle east conflict! What about the UN fail to stop US from invading Iraq? Well, the US is the world policeman and if Iraq decide to invade Kuwait and build mass weapon destruction to threaten the world peace and the US has an obligation as the world policeman to invade Iraq to restore the world peace and stability! Now does that mean the Thaicong can behave like the US by going around invading Cambodia? Of course not! The Thaicong isn’t world super power and the Thaicong is just shrimp among whale! Some stupid Cambodian people even claim that Cambodian people are so sickened tired of war and they just want peace but do Cambodian people really have peace over the years? Of course not! Well! Cambodian people had been getting use to the fucken war for long that they forget that they are living in a fucken war zone! To prove my point and just look at the living condition of dirt poor Cambodian people and it is not different from the Khmer Rouge and the Vietcong occupation because Cambodian people continue to live in fear! AH HUN XEN has been using his police thugs as his foot soldiers who are walking around with AK-47 and grenades and they do land grabbing, killing, and intimidating Cambodian people as if they were his enemy and AH HUN XEN even deport his own citizen such as Monk Tim Sakhorn without due process to please the Vietcong government!
The fact is too many stupid Cambodian have too much inferior complex and they see no value in themselves and they continue to play death and waiting for some unknown force to help them! Since the beginning the Khmer empire and if Cambodian people didn’t fight for the survival of Cambodia and Cambodia would have vanished long time ago! The fact that Cambodia continue to exist until today is because Cambodian people chose to fight the Thaicong and the Vietcong relentless aggression! Fear no more and if Cambodian people chose to fight to protect Cambodia and Cambodia will always continue to exist and Cambodian people will always continue to be prosper and multiply!
To Heng Soy: Always Heng Soy for you and your clan for gripping power. But Khmer inside the country will not follow your "Heng Soy" strategy.
While dog's bargking, men are walking, "CHHKER CHES TERE PROUS, MONUS CHES TERE DEIR". Look what's the result of the bilateral talk today...
These Phylosophy Handicap Doctors tried to expain us the 1991 Paris Accord coz of the effort of the UN... Cambodian people appreciated the UN... But the UN is not able to bring resolution for all case if no interest of the P5, particularly the US... You should read more, but not reading just the books published in the States, otherwise, you are brainwashing...
Wow...How many years Vietnam was in Cambodia? 10 years, idoit PhDs...So, you want war? I'm repeatedly again and again telling you, please send your clan and families to front line first to defend our territory...I think only the smart people like your peole fit well to protect our country in this 21 century...
Why's Paris Accord possible? Listen idiots: Vietnam got support by the former Soviet to topple Pol Pot and had been in Cambodia a dicade...When Soviet collapsed, Vietname had no one of the P5 to support them... This development gave the UN a possible to manage the course...
Why the US supported guarilla group including Pol Pot force? Yes, geopolitic interest of the US in the region...ASEAN is the close strategic parner of the US to prevent the comminist expension in the region during the cold war... ASEAN, particularly Thailand, was so affraid of Vietnam's T52 move into Bangkok...This is the importance of US's strategic goepolitic move....
Maybe to give you a long lesson to understand the world politic before you could know how to protect our nation....I don't have time, you should consult your master and US Rice...
To 11:06AM
You are addressing to the wrong person fool! You think that you are such a smart arse do you? ahhahah!So tell me Mr. Smart arse what about the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council? Didn't the Permanent five use small country such as Cambodia to fight their proxy war?
Tell me who can argue with the Vietcong for wanting to stay in Cambodia until their economy bankrupt and their living of standard go down the drain for invading Cambodia? Do you really think that the Russian has unlimited supply of money to help the Vietcong to occupy Cambodia forever? It is true that united States help the Khmer Rouge diplomatically but it is China who help arm the Khmer Rouge to bleed the Vietcong!
Tell me who doesn’t know that the ASEAN is Uncle SAM creation and without United States support for United Nations and there would be no United Nations in the world!
You paint a picture of how the Vietcong are so invincible that they can swallow up Thailame? You need to be realistic fool because the Vietcong were bogged down in guerrilla warfare in Cambodia like the American during the Vietname war! The Vietcong hands and feet were tied up in Cambodian conflict already and how could they swallow up Thailame! Do you really think that a few hundred thousand Vietcong soldiers can coexist peacefully with 8 million angry Cambodian people in the long term without addressing the social, economic, job, healthcare, housing, and education...issues? In addition, the Vietcong were living next to China the Superpower who is vehemently insisting that the Vietcong must withdrew their troop from Cambodia by all mean! So tell me does the Vietcong have a choice stay in Cambodia any longer? Ahhahhah
If the United States chooses to support the Thaicong to invade Cambodia and allow the Thaicong to behave like the Vietcong and there will be a response from other Super Powers!
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Thanks 5:33...I agreed, let them bark until die... We all Khmers in side the country are always united and do our best to protect our nation...
To 5:33PM and 5:40PM
It is funny that you said all Khmer in Cambodia are united but the fact is your leader AH HUN XEN whom you voted for is not uniting with you! AH HUN XEN is sending his foreign minister Hor Nambitch to negotiate with the Thaicong thief! Ahhahahhahhah
It is funny that your leader AH HUN XEN is negotiating with a fucken Thaicong thief!
By the way, I won’t negotiate with any fucken thief for entering my house!
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