Saturday, August 09, 2008

Temple tantrum [-Could economic impact change Thailand's course in the border dispute with Cambodia?]

Saturday August 09, 2008
Bangkok Post
However, the temple issue has opened old wounds, and with calls already for boycotts of Thai products, Thai businessmen are feeling the heat, although publicly they do not want to admit it.
Thais hope rhetoric will cool before business climate sours, writes Umesh Pandey

With border tensions with Cambodia rising, Thai companies that have operations in the neighbouring country are wondering whether nationalistic rhetoric could threaten the closer economic relations the two countries are trying to create.

Cambodia, which only 13 months ago was pitching incentives and opportunities to Thai investors, is now a place where investors may be fearful of participating.

The Preah Vihear temple dispute, initially perceived as an election campaign rallying cry by the ruling Cambodian People's Party (CPP), has not died down. Now the dispute has spread to involve the Ta Moan Thom temple, located in Si Sa Ket near the border.

Tensions in Cambodia are not new. Everyone recalls the hostilities that resulted in major damage to Thai businesses and the Royal Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh in 2003 after Cambodian media erroneously quoted a Thai actress as saying Angkor Wat belonged to Thailand.

Last year, the government of Cambodia assembled an audience of more than 200 investors and declared that nationalistic issues would not be a factor in the future.

"Let's put the past behind us and build the future. That was a political issue and we took responsibility (by paying compensation for the burning of the embassy)," was the response at the time of Kong Vibol, first secretary of state for the government of Cambodia.

"Now we provide a guarantee to Thai investors in order to make them more confident."

Cambodia, he said at the time, was among the freest countries in the region and had set itself firmly on the development path, offering a free hand to foreign investors to set up businesses. They cannot own land but can lease it for 99 years. As well, he said, Cambodia had no foreign-exchange controls on current-account transactions.

However, the temple issue has opened old wounds, and with calls already for boycotts of Thai products, Thai businessmen are feeling the heat, although publicly they do not want to admit it.

"Yes, investing in Cambodia is risky and we knew that before we even decided to put our money in the country the first time around," said one major investor who asked that neither he nor his company be named.

"All I want to say is if the country wants to see funds flow into the country, it will have to avoid look at ways to avoid creating a situation where investors start to fear," he said.

Thai investors present in Cambodia include leading conglomerates Siam Cement Plc, Charoen Pokphand Group, Thai Beverage, PTT, Mitr Phol, Khon Kaen Sugar Mills Plc and more than 100 small and medium-sized companies.

Siam Cement, which only recently opened its cement plant in Cambodia, and CP Group, have both come out to openly state that their operations there are in good shape and are not being affected from the calls for boycott. But Saha Pathanapibul Plc, the maker of Mama instant noodles, is perceived as a possible boycott target.

ICC International Plc, a member of the Chokwatana family empire that includes Saha Pathanapibul, said it was seeing minimal impact in Cambodia so far.

"The impact we have had is very minimal as the business size that we have there is very small and it is our firm's policy to not invest too much in any single country that is new to us," said ICC chairman Boonkiat Chokwatana.

ICC sells a number of its cosmetic and apparel products in Cambodia.

"I must say that we are used to these kinds of downturns as we have experienced them in Burma too. What we do is we wait and see how things shape up and then make a decision," he said.

"They usually last for a short period and things go back to normal."

Despite the problems facing investors in the country, there are those who are brave at heart and are looking to participate in a market dominated by imported products.

With a population of 14.3 million Cambodia is "an interesting market to be present in", says one investor.

"Yes there are risks and we knew it after the 2003 incident, but Cambodia is a market where everything is basically imported and how many markets in this part of the world can you find where there is such a huge potential," he said.

"What we have to look at long-term potential and overlook the short-term issues."

The key, he says, is to look for a business that has potential and one that is less volatile in such situations. In all cases it is critical to keep Cambodian workers happy.

"Today despite all the perceived problems, we are not experiencing anything there, but then our project is not for mass consumption either and it would take years before we start to realise our returns," the executive said.

The key element of doing business in countries that are developing is not just your basic business model but also includes the key element of who you know and who is your local partner. As most SMEs are unlikely to have a risk management in place, seeking a partner who can be helpful in times like this.

Many large companies have good connections to Prime Minister Hun Sen and his allies, but those that don't need reliable local partners. The larger multinationals recommend that those looking to enter the market consult with the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh.

Despite all the problems, there has been an influx of investment into Cambodia, especially in labour-intensive industries. According to the Ministry of Commerce, exports to Cambodia grew by 71.8% in the first half of this year, the highest growth rate in five years, amid a surge in demand for Thai goods and growing trade relations.

Exports to Cambodia are expected to reach the target of $1.69 billion this year, an increase of 25%.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

They can't blame Cambodian, If German invade our country our French people will aslo boycott German's product. How about thailand, what are you going to do if Burman invade your country?. Any way thing will be bigger if they could not solve this proble in short period and Thai will lost more and more.

Roperto- France

Anonymous said...

dude. That's stupid to buy enemy products. You dont hate to wait to see things will be improved that khmer will buy your products. Just look at thai film industry. Before 2003 we liked to watch your tightland tv drama a lot but after that non of them is showing on our tv. See that? So no point that things will improve regarding your thai business in our country. The guy commented about france and germany got the point.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely sure, Khmer will not energize Thai as the invader.
Boucott is the best way to weaken our enemies with very cheap cost. It's spend only ideal and conscience.

Anonymous said...

Hey, during the terror attacked WTC in NY and BUSH rally for supports to go to war with IRAQ and French refuse to support, the US stop calling "French Fried" to named it as "Freedom Fried" cause of Bush thinking that French didn't just support BUSH of fabricating or creating evidence to go to war. US also boycotted French stuffs.

Khmer NY,

Anonymous said...

Preah Vihear - A Mountain of Undeniable Fact
Thursday, July 17, 2008
Originally posted at M|O|N|G|K|O|L
My friend Ann Sovatha, a fellow Fulbright scholar and recent graduate in anthropology from Northern Illinois University, recently submitted the following commentary to the Phnom Penh Post.

I thought the piece was very interesting and contained a lot of heartbreaking but true facts about an event happening to the first batch of Cambodian refugees to Thailand less than thirty years ago. Personally, reading this reminded me of my uncle and his family, who were victims of this cruelty and remained scarred till this very moment. Shame on these evils!


The dispute over the sovereignty of Preah Vihear temple has been in the headlines in recent days. The usual themes expressed regarding the dispute center on the loss of territory, burying the past, or correcting fake information. I share these sentiments. However, this dispute involves a much deeper issue that extends beyond these themes.

Many Cambodians have already buried more than enough of the past. Buddhism has taught Cambodians to forgive and forget to the point that they can even forget tragic events that involve the loss of thousands of lives. The point I want to make here, which has not surfaced in the news media, involves an event that happened on this disputed site less than three decades ago. If the Thais still remembered this event, they should be hesitant to discuss Preah Vihear temple site at all. This site should be the site of shame for them, rather than one of pride. The event I am talking about is the �forced repatriation� of thousands of Cambodian refugees who sought refuge inside Thailand�s border after the Khmer Rouge period ended in 1979.

As a post-war generation Khmer, I did not experience these events, but in order to understand these extremely sad and heart-breaking events, one only needs to flip through a few pages of two books: �The Quality of Mercy: Cambodia, Holocaust and Modern Conscience� by William Shawcross (1984) and �To Destroy You Is No Loss� by Joan Criddle and Teeda Butt Mam (1987.)

When the Khmer Rouge were ousted in 1979, thousands of refugees fled the country to the West. These refugees settled in temporary camp sites along Cambodia-Thai border. Lacking support from the international community to handle this huge number of refugees, the Thais resolved to push them back into Cambodia. Shawcross provides a moving account of this event below:

�On the morning of Friday, June 8, 110 buses pulled up at the border site of Nong Chan, a few miles north of Aranyaprathet, where several thousand refugees were now camped in fields. Thai soldiers in the buses told the refugees they were being moved to another, better camp.

Some refugees seemed to believe what they were told and were happy enough to leave the squalid, overcrowded conditions of Nong Chan. Others were not; one woman, who had walked out of Cambodia to Nong Chan with her three children only a week before, said later that she was terrified when the Thai soldiers began to herd them into buses.� (pg. 88 )

In her first-hand account, Teeda Mam provided a perspective on what it was like to be one refugee inside one of those buses. After finding out that the bus was not going to Bangkok but back to Cambodian border, �each person, murmuring angrily or fighting back tears, tried to come to grips with catastrophe in his own way. Shocked disbelief showed on every face. � We had just come from hell and were being sentenced to return. We couldn�t believe our awful fate. Defeated, many wished only for a quick death.� (pg. 251)

She further wrote how cruel she felt being pushed back:

�Cruel as it was, we could understand the lie, but it was doubly cruel to push us back across in the north when arrangements had been made for returning us to the south. It seemed little short of cold-blooded, premeditated murder. The remote jungle had been chosen deliberately. The Thais wanted an international incident and we were to be it.� (pg. 251)

The Thais wanted to make a statement, which was that they could not handle the refugee crisis unless international aid was provided immediately. However, to make such a statement at a cost of thousands of lives was a rather inhumane one. How inhumane this statement was can be measured by what happened when these refugees arrived at the Preah Vihear site. Shawcross continued:

�Loaded with Cambodian refugees from temporary camp sites all over eastern Thailand, hundreds of buses converged on a mountainous region of the northeastern border near the temple of Preah Vihear, whose ownership had long been a source of bitter dispute between Thailand and Cambodia. They arrived, with military precision, after dark.

The border had been sealed off by Thai soldiers; the area was flooded with troops. The refugees were ordered, busload by busload, to walk back into Cambodia. They were told that there was a path down the mountains but that on the other side the Vietnamese army was waiting to welcome them. Thai soldiers also said, �Thai money will not be valid in Kampuchea; we ask you to make a voluntary contribution to our army.�� (pg. 89)

Teeda Mam also described the scene when her bus arrived at Preah Vihear site. She wrote:
�The buses lurched to a standstill. We were ordered out. People refused to budge until forced from their seats at gunpoint. If only we could hold out a little longer without going back across the border, perhaps the order would be rescinded. Everyone knew that shock waves from Thailand�s decision to return us were reverberating throughout the world. Thailand�s point had been made, and we did not want to be the victims of its strong message that help was needed immediately.

Camping on the Thai side of the border had been made impossible. Refugees, herded like cattle one busload at a time, were funneled between lines of soldiers to the summit of a steep ridge that marked the border, then pushed over. Wielding guns, Thai soldiers shouted, �Go down, Go down.� They began shooting at those who refused to start down the face of the cliff.� (pg. 251-252)

Shawcross added to the description, �The path down the mountains became steeper, the jungle thicker. Dozens, scores of people fell onto mines. Those with possessions had to abandon them to carry their children down.� (pg. 89) Once the refugees began to descend down the cliff, the scene became more horrific. Even after almost three decades, I believe those who descended down the cliff and survived still have a hard time coming to terms with that event. Teeda Mam described this unimaginable descent into hell:

�Below the ridge, we could hear people screaming and moaning. Those who had been forced over the border during the past two days stubbornly refused to move off the mountainside trails, yet the press of refugees from above kept pushing them farther down. The entire face of the hill had been heavily mined by the Khmer Rouge four years ago, and everyone was terrified to break a new trail in the five-mile-wide no-man�s-land. Occasionally, a mine exploded as the crowd pushed someone off the trail. Since everyone wanted to step only where they had seen others step, they slid cautiously downward only when forced from above by the pressure of others moving downhill. Descent proceeded at a snail�s pace.� (pg. 252)

Some of the refugees tried to buy their way out of this deadly descent. Shawcross wrote:

�One group of refugees desperately pooled whatever valuable they had left, filled two buckets with them and walked back up toward the Thai soldiers, carrying a white flag. The soldiers took the buckets and then opened fire on the refugees.� (pg. 89-90)

Teeda Mam confirms this cruel account:

�The Chinese gentleman and his party had pooled their Thai money in a red plastic bucket. Quietly, he offered it to the soldier, then asked to be pointed in a direction leading to freedom. The soldier accepted the bucket and motioned with his gun down a side path as he looked the other way. No sooner had the group started down this path, however, than the guard turned and raised the muzzle of his submachine gun. They fell like dominoes.� (pg. 253)

I believe that any sane person would be brought to tears by this account, but the story is worse when we realized that it continued for days. Shawcross further wrote:

�For days this operation went on. Altogether, between 43,000 and 45,000 people were pushed down the cliffs at Preah Vihear. It took three days to cross the mine field. Water was very hard to find. Some people had salt. Very few had food. The Thais had distributed at most a cup of rice per person before the buses were emptied.

One refugee who finally managed to escape back to Thailand told UNHCR officials: �The crowd was very dense. It was impossible to number the victims of the land mines. The wounded people were moaning. The most difficult part of the walk was near the dead bodies. Tears I thought had dried up long ago came back to my eyes-less because of the sight than from the thought that those innocent people had paid with their lives for their attempts to reach freedom in a world that was too selfish.�� (pg. 90)

For Teeda Mam, a survivor of the Khmer Rouge years, what happened at Preah Vihear even surpassed these terrible years. She wrote:

�I thought the nightmare I had lived through for years and the trauma of our escape had exposed me to all the suffering and horrors this world had to offer. I was wrong. Nothing had prepared us for this first night on the trail. Descent from the cliff was like being lowered into the jaws of hell.� (pg. 255)

What I intend to do with this article is not to provoke anger or revenge, as Buddhism, the religion Cambodians share with their Thai neighbors, has taught us that revenge is won by taking no revenge �pea rum-ngoab doy ka min chong pea.� My intent is to point out the undeniable fact that terrible things happened at Preah Vihear site three decades ago that involved the loss of thousands of Cambodian lives. The fact that no one has raised these events in discussions of Preah Vihear in the media is shocking. In fact, many Cambodians, especially those of my generation who was born in the 1980s, are not even aware that this horrible event took place. What they were taught was about the Khmer Rouge period, but not about what happened at Preah Vihear. The events at Preah Vihear, which was inflicted by the Thais, cost the lives of many Cambodians. But unlike the Khmer Rouge leaders who are being tried now, Cambodians do not even ask who was responsible for the people who died at Preah Vihear. So the question is, how can the Thais take the pride in arguing for the sovereignty of this site when this should be a site of shame for what they did?

Anonymous said...

7:00 PM

That is a horrible statement you made there.

Just be careful where you live. Your US opposition will isolate and haunt you, and your life will be miserable.

Anonymous said...

siam invaders would have boycott our products as well if we had product to sell in their country.

Ask all Khmers to boycott siam product!

Anonymous said...

Dear compatriots,

BRAINLESS RAVEN HUN XEN HAS FALLEN INTO THE FOX SIAM TRAP.
HE STARTS TO RENEGOCIATE WITH SAMAK.
WE MUST KNOW WHEN HUN XEN NEGOCIATES , HE ALWAYS NEGOCIATES FOR HIS OWN INTEREST BUSINESS, NEVER FOR OUR COUNTRY.
MORE HE NEGOCIATES, MORE WE LOSE OUR LAND.
KHMER PEOPLE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE THE COUNTRY MUST MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT THAT ANY NEW LINE DRAWING OF THE MAP BY ANY NEW GOVERNMENT WON'T BE ACCEPTABLE AND WILL BE CONSIDERED AS A TREASON TO KHMER PEOPLE AND THAT GOVERNMENT MUST BE FORCED TO STEP DOWN.
STAND UP TOGETHER TO INVADER SIAM!

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen is living worry dangerously now the Khmer people is his worst enemy. Ask the Youn to step up security for you.

Anonymous said...

To the two posters above, you two are the small handful of disillusioned idiots lol. Hun Sen worried for his life now that Khmer hate him? WOW! What world are you living in? oh yea the Pro-SRP CPP-hating propaganda overseas land ;)


p.s. Did you know that Sam Rainsy's father was executed for being a traitor? Search for it or ask Sam Rainsy.

Anonymous said...

I think it's you who live too long under Hun Sen rules that have lost complete sense of reality. Do you really think that Hun Sen back by ah Youn is so invincible? Do you really think that he is strong as he pretend to be?

Do you know why ah Youn withdraw from Cambodia? From an British-American embargo, doing business with the Russian alone is no viable.

So if Hun Sen is strong as he pretend to be try to divide Sam Rainsy party and see what will happen.

I don't know if have enlighten you small communist brain a little bit?

Anonymous said...

I forgot you can always do business with ah Youn and ah Siem, not the rest of the world.

Wow, in what world are you living in?

Oh yea CPP is not that strong, only with the weak defenseless Khmer.

p.s. Did you know that living under an embargo and with ah You and Siem as neighbor it is no fun? Search for it ask your parent about the KR era.

Anonymous said...

Why quick Border dispute solution is needed ?? we need to delay and delay until Khmer people feel boring & forget about it and we will share some lands/sea territoriry to our close brother thai ......as we used to make with

Excellency 7 stars General oknha Achar Knoy (Phd. Bandit from Prahok Chamroeurn Avichea Unv. PPenh)

Anonymous said...

Frontier Soldiers are in hard condition. Thief and corrupt vulga officers are sleeping well with underaged girls and paid several thousand dollars from state coffer for the girls aday while a lot of staving peoples are seeing them. Take them and their family to trial, hing them like Sadam, take peoles 'money back. they are cultural spoilers. see a notorious fucker kahnarith

Anonymous said...

CPP of A Hun Sen and Those FUNCIPEC are girl spoilers, they are khmer cultural spoilers, they ring with girl channel, underages girls.