Original report from Washington
07 August 2008
Military tension between Cambodian and Thai soldiers around Ta Moan Thom temple has eased, following a decision on both sides to lay common conditions for negotiation.
"The first condition was that both sides have to withdraw from Ta Moan Thom," said Maj. Sim Sokha, a commander from Military Region 4. "The second one, both sides have to allow people to enter the temple."
During the day, Cambodian soldiers can enter the temple, which lays on the border of Oddar Meanchey province, west of Preah Vihear temple, where a standoff continues, Sim Sokha said. But both sides have agreed not to enter the temple at night.
Defense Minister Gen. Tea Banh said Wednesday Thai troops had moved to their original position, 350 meters from the temple, after they occupied and fortified the temple last weekend.
"The first condition was that both sides have to withdraw from Ta Moan Thom," said Maj. Sim Sokha, a commander from Military Region 4. "The second one, both sides have to allow people to enter the temple."
During the day, Cambodian soldiers can enter the temple, which lays on the border of Oddar Meanchey province, west of Preah Vihear temple, where a standoff continues, Sim Sokha said. But both sides have agreed not to enter the temple at night.
Defense Minister Gen. Tea Banh said Wednesday Thai troops had moved to their original position, 350 meters from the temple, after they occupied and fortified the temple last weekend.
10 comments:
Why the bastard Hun Sen allow the siem to enter the temple?
This will serve as excuse for them to still our territory and the temple.
You don't let the siem cross the border like entering the mall.
Dumbass third grade school. The KR should shoot this brainless Hun Sen.
Thais use Fake Maps to Grab Khmer Lands and Camb-Aminisdtration uses Fake Land Title deeds to Grab People's land....
BAP KAM
3:24AM
Pleasae use highly-cultural Language as other educated people...do
As to show that you are Kham with
past-present Civilisation....
We dont know about your attitude for Thai people like this. This situation give me a chance to observe your oversea Kmhear who had a bitter in their lifes so much (more than I think!!!)
In Thailand, we have the information about the untrustfully nigotiation of both politician side. We dont know a lot of the WHT's list to UNESCO, but if we share the site and the Prasat also to be the world heritage's list, it will be the contribution for our lands and both peoples.
But, for the Ta Muen Thom sanctuary case what about your personality is?
From now on, we think, the next prasat or temple you might want is this "Ta meun thom" and next week may be Sadok kok Thom, the next after next week may the land in whole Isan or burirum or surin which we have the ethnics like Kmhear, Khui, Chinese, lao, Thai in the land.
If you need to use the watershed line, OK, let give the Phra viharn back first and talk about the Tamuen Thom border line. We cannot survay around until now, How can we trust on the old map, especially the 1904 colonial map. It made by the French who need everthing from the indegenious prople. We cannot use that map or another map. Only thing we can do is sit down and have the resonable talk. If the Ta muen is yours please take it but we should use the same standard inthe Phra Viharn case.
I am so sorry about our problem, I love Ankor, your local is so nice. After I survive from Phnom Pheigh five years ago, I still has the positive thinking on your country. But now.....
Hu Zen cannot do anything with the neighbouring Siam encroachment and silently yet handsomely pray that the protesters of PAD in Siam be CRACKED DOWN OR BE VANISHED LIKE THOSE IN CAMBODIA.
However, for the country development, Hu Zen can (should we say) pioneer or initiate and implement enormous tasks in order to develop the country in the speed pace (Whether he very much CARES OR NOT???)
First, Hu Zen can FILTER, CHANGE AND CLEAN the LUCRATIVE YET CORRUPTED ATTITUDES OF HIS GOVERNING SYSTEM. He absolutely can implement this task by enacting such laws as: Anti-Corruption Law and the Laws to strengthen work and process of the governing administration. Rewards should be positive, useful tools to motivate the potential, capable and experienced state public servants and punishment or being prosecuted by court for those who use or violate the authorities or responsibilities to extort money and benefits from any individuals or public (info. media plays a vital role along with probe of neutral, reliable body). Hu Zen Must Pave the Paths and Bring Light to the Governing System of Well-Restricted Corruption, Well-Respected and Abided by Rule of Laws, But Not Laws or Memorandums by Mouths of Sole Powerful Individuals. The laws should be necessarily abided by everyone from the TOP TO BOTTOM (ROLE MODEL FROM THE TOP SETS UP STRONG FUNDAMENTAL AND PAVES WAY FOR LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE SUCCESS since Hu Zen has the ultimate control of everything in his power) and must be genuinely REINFORCED on the basis of promoting the effectiveness and culture of law implementation (NOT IMPUNITY or right-wrong gauged by the mouths of powerful individuals). To have triumph over this easily-won battle (Hu Zen controls everything; he only has to listen to the noble voice-the voice crying and wishing for JUST development and EQUAL justice governing by the RULE OF LAWS), Hu Zen, in case he wants to see all of these solid-well-built and healthy developments of the country in the eyes of Khmers for generations to come, HAS to SHOW HIS POLITICAL WILL AND WASTES NO SECOND TO PROVE HIS DETERMINATION AND COMMITMENT VISIBLE WORK, GREAT EFFORT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT (NOT sing the same old songs, yet more and more visible, serious rampant corruption and injustice everywhere). START from high-ranking officers (known as too partial and party-policy sideline favoring, which neglect and refuse to accept international working quality and standard. THE TOP HAS TO ROLE MODEL AND MUST NOT TOO-POWER ADDICTED????) TO police and civil servants and so on.
HOWEVER, the leaders MUST NOT held the fate of the country and the people as their hostage of OWN POWER OR FAMILY’S INTEREST. The leaders have to be READY to sacrifice own interest and READY to undergo sufferings and hardships if the leaders are to lead the people and his nation to development and prosperity UNDER the governing of LAW AND JUSTICE FOR ALL??????
May God blesses Khmer and his Nation!!!!!!!!
Tips in Leadership:
-Too long in power can poison a person’s mind; the leaders become power-addicted and because the leaders are fighting NOT FOR SAKE OF GOOD CAUSES OR INTEREST OF THE NATION but his and his family’s power and interest, therefore the leaders will CRUSH AND KILL EVERYONE INTERFERING IN THE PROCESS and with the knowledge yet eyes closed WILL SET NO EFFECTIVE MEANS TO RESTRICT OR CURB THE RAMPANT CORRUPTION AND INJUSTICE as long as they can still stay in power and though the power is from MISERIES, BLOOD AND SOULS OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!!!!!
In Truth and Decent Laws We Trust!!!!!!
As respresenting yourself as the "Ownner of Prah Vihan" please use civilised language as ordinary educated people used to use
" Your language imlpies/reflexes your bahaviour, Culture.. and also your family's....your nation.."
To:11:06AM
Dear Sir,
If I understand your comment regarding "watershed Line"as frontier line.. Cambodia never used this line(Water shed). the watershed used as Border line only in some case while no any landmark can be used ..." but for Preah Vihear case no any watershed shall be used as Borderline...in the atrea , settlements and clearly marked by the French Siam treaty....( and both side agrred)
As you mentioned about map produced by French Siam in early 1900s (if i understand your comment is you may say that that old map is uncorrect due to out of date Technology etc.. please be notified that however it is old and using traditional+ Technical means but it is much more correct/accurate and without any diviation, if you mentioned the Satallite image used nowadays.. Without Field Check or "Ground Truth" satellite less reflexes the truth... in French times Mapping mostly followed by field check which is very accurate.....
I hope this is easy to understand for all Khmers or Siams technicians but Siams may pretend not to know/undersdtand and fully intend to invade Cambodia...
politically...
It is uneasy as saying & thinking.....I presume...
I myself also liked thais very much who are soft with smile and have similar culture and Budhist relegion; we tried to forget all the past centuries and built the new century of 21t /Globilisation( as song-we are the world....), unfortunetely with encounter the same problems as previous ones...
As the civilised nations,and thailand is more developed than Cambodia, I hope all agressive acts again Cambodia shall be given up...
If no stop- finally the winners are the TOP leaders/political figures of both and we ordinary people(Khmer-thais)will lose forever...
Excellency Oknha Achar Knoy
Your geographic knowledge may not accurate to solve this problem. Please check the treaty that the French use the watershed to check the border line but the french need more they didnt use the watershed in this case.In my opinion the French intellectual were very interesting in the Khmear empire and Phar Viharn is the marvellous one in the peak of the mountain. This is the anwer why they need Phra viharn settele on their French colonial country.
I am realized that your people need the truth but the world court's justice only give the Prasat back not the area around. Nowaday, I am not sure you know that your country took the area aorund 4.6 km2 and build the temple. Last saturday even you talk to my forieng's minister, your priminister's wife went to the problem area and made the ceremony, a few days later your troops about 50 persons with guns went to Ta muen. What is the theme of dramatized act like the case of morning star in the past five years.
I am so regret for anyone who dont care the situation like this. It must not have the war between us.
We are the loser. Who's win?
Please give the question to the politicians of both countries.
We dont want your Prasat Phar Viharn but make thing clear more. We both in the trapped of colonialism and the leaders.
If you have some occation please come to Thailand, you will find a lot of Hindunized Prasat or sanctuary or "temple" all over Isan and some in central plain. We are the Buddisht and in that time we had the same traditions which was under the Hindu or Mahayarna cult which it made us in the same culture not the same politic ligitimation.
In Thailand we are weak now not strong stable political situation. What do you think and what do you want to do?
By the way it is very interesting that how you think about your motherland in the past.
To all Khmer Compatriots:
Thailand claims that there are 16 border disputes along the 800km long border with Thailand.
I noticed on Yahoo aerial map the 4.6km2 is shown as part of Thailand. Secondly, the border with Thailand at Poipet used to be at a bridge and now it is moved at least 500 meters into the Cambodian side. I have met someone who recently visited poipet and claimed that the checkpoint back in 1975 and during the Khmer Rouger rule used to be half-way at the bridge now it is moved way inside cambodian side.
We must question our leaders regarding the Poipet border.
Our Samdach Decho (strog man) is very busy with farming/Rice planting right now..
No need to work on Border Disputes...
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