The Mekong Times
Thailand has claimed the ancient Ta Moan temples, occupied and fortified over the last few days by armed Thai troops, as Thai territory and is to attempt to list the larger as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Cambodia remains adamant that the two 13th century temples are 200 meters inside Cambodian territory, with senior Cambodian officials warning of escalating tensions between the neighbors.
Observers have said the move is a tit-for-tat response to the lingering standoff around the ancient Preah Vihear temple, recently listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site, much to the chagrin of many Thais.
Thailand has nominated the Ta Moan Thom temple, situated in what Thailand alleges is a disputed Thai-Cambodian border area, to be listed as a Thai UNESCO World Heritage site, the Fine Arts Department Director General Kriengkrai Sampatchalit said Monday, Xinhua reported.
The tense military standoff between Thailand and Cambodia around Preah Vihear temple now looks set to spread, with armed Thai soldiers apparently denying Cambodian forces access to the Ta Moan site, which is several hundred kilometers from Preah Vihear temple.
Kriengkrai told The Nation that UNESCO will consider the Thai nomination of the Ta Moan Thom temple, along with other temples he claimed were in the Thai provinces of Surin, Buri Ram and Nakhon Ratchasima. The Thai UNESCO submission is to be called the “Khmer Civilization Route,” and presented at the next UNESCO meeting next year,.
“It is true” the temple is not in Cambodia, he assured, instead it is located “just about 100 meters from the border in the Thai soil.” The Fine Arts Department apparently “found and registered it as one of our Thai ancient items since 1935, or about 73 years ago,” he added.
The move appeared to be supported by the Thai military – Thai Supreme Commander Gen Boonsang Niampradit said yesterday he has handed a letter to Cambodian authorities, claiming that Ta Moan Thom temple belongs to Thailand, according to Xinhua.
Cambodia does not agree.
Pai Siphan, spokesman for the Cambodian Council of Ministers, said yesterday the Cambodian government totally rejects Thai Supreme Commander General Boonsrang Niumpradit’s statement claiming that Ta Moan Thom temple belongs to Thailand. “Ta Moan Thom temple is located in the south of Cambodian territory with border marker No. 23,” he said.
“[I]n September 2001, the Thai-Cambodia General Border Committee issued a letter to halt Thailand’s activity in the region of Ta Moan Thom temple,” he added, referring to Thai infrastructure development such as road construction near the site.
Pai Siphan called the Thai deployment of nearly 1,000 troops around Ta Moan Thom a “violation” and a “threat to Cambodia’s national security.”
Cambodian Information Minister Khieu Kanharith was more diplomatic, stressing that a peaceful solution is possible, even as he explained the background to the Thai deployment. “The Thai side always claims that Ta Moan temple is located in Thai territory because, in times of war, the coalition government allowed Thai troops to settle over there in order to prevent the attack by [Khmer Rouge] Democratic Kampuchea troops,” he said.
Khieu Kanharith stated that Cambodia has legal evidence, including documents and maps, which prove that Ta Moan Thom temple is in Cambodian territory.
He warned that Thailand will harm its international reputation and lose national pride if it continues territorial violations.
Running the gauntlet of such serious risks, Thailand does want to talk, Xinhua claimed, with the newly appointed Thai Foreign Minister Dej Bunnag looking to hold a second round of meetings with his Cambodian counterpart in Siem Reap. Thai Supreme Commander Gen Boonsang Niampradit said the decision to withdraw Thai soldiers from the ancient temples will have to be discussed, as the matter is sensitive, complex and could affect the stability of both nations. Still, he said the talks would be an attempt to ease military and diplomatic stand-off between the two countries.
But Cambodian Information Minister Khieu Kanharith scotched that possibility, according to DPA. He said talks between the foreign ministers of Cambodia and Thailand are over for now – at least until Cambodia forms a new government, expected in late September.
Instead, discussions would be temporarily left to the border committees on both sides, he said.
Growing tensions over ancient sites along Cambodia’s northern border seem to auger badly for pending Thai-Cambodian negotiations over disputed sea borders that potentially hold rich oil fields.
Observers have said the move is a tit-for-tat response to the lingering standoff around the ancient Preah Vihear temple, recently listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site, much to the chagrin of many Thais.
Thailand has nominated the Ta Moan Thom temple, situated in what Thailand alleges is a disputed Thai-Cambodian border area, to be listed as a Thai UNESCO World Heritage site, the Fine Arts Department Director General Kriengkrai Sampatchalit said Monday, Xinhua reported.
The tense military standoff between Thailand and Cambodia around Preah Vihear temple now looks set to spread, with armed Thai soldiers apparently denying Cambodian forces access to the Ta Moan site, which is several hundred kilometers from Preah Vihear temple.
Kriengkrai told The Nation that UNESCO will consider the Thai nomination of the Ta Moan Thom temple, along with other temples he claimed were in the Thai provinces of Surin, Buri Ram and Nakhon Ratchasima. The Thai UNESCO submission is to be called the “Khmer Civilization Route,” and presented at the next UNESCO meeting next year,.
“It is true” the temple is not in Cambodia, he assured, instead it is located “just about 100 meters from the border in the Thai soil.” The Fine Arts Department apparently “found and registered it as one of our Thai ancient items since 1935, or about 73 years ago,” he added.
The move appeared to be supported by the Thai military – Thai Supreme Commander Gen Boonsang Niampradit said yesterday he has handed a letter to Cambodian authorities, claiming that Ta Moan Thom temple belongs to Thailand, according to Xinhua.
Cambodia does not agree.
Pai Siphan, spokesman for the Cambodian Council of Ministers, said yesterday the Cambodian government totally rejects Thai Supreme Commander General Boonsrang Niumpradit’s statement claiming that Ta Moan Thom temple belongs to Thailand. “Ta Moan Thom temple is located in the south of Cambodian territory with border marker No. 23,” he said.
“[I]n September 2001, the Thai-Cambodia General Border Committee issued a letter to halt Thailand’s activity in the region of Ta Moan Thom temple,” he added, referring to Thai infrastructure development such as road construction near the site.
Pai Siphan called the Thai deployment of nearly 1,000 troops around Ta Moan Thom a “violation” and a “threat to Cambodia’s national security.”
Cambodian Information Minister Khieu Kanharith was more diplomatic, stressing that a peaceful solution is possible, even as he explained the background to the Thai deployment. “The Thai side always claims that Ta Moan temple is located in Thai territory because, in times of war, the coalition government allowed Thai troops to settle over there in order to prevent the attack by [Khmer Rouge] Democratic Kampuchea troops,” he said.
Khieu Kanharith stated that Cambodia has legal evidence, including documents and maps, which prove that Ta Moan Thom temple is in Cambodian territory.
He warned that Thailand will harm its international reputation and lose national pride if it continues territorial violations.
Running the gauntlet of such serious risks, Thailand does want to talk, Xinhua claimed, with the newly appointed Thai Foreign Minister Dej Bunnag looking to hold a second round of meetings with his Cambodian counterpart in Siem Reap. Thai Supreme Commander Gen Boonsang Niampradit said the decision to withdraw Thai soldiers from the ancient temples will have to be discussed, as the matter is sensitive, complex and could affect the stability of both nations. Still, he said the talks would be an attempt to ease military and diplomatic stand-off between the two countries.
But Cambodian Information Minister Khieu Kanharith scotched that possibility, according to DPA. He said talks between the foreign ministers of Cambodia and Thailand are over for now – at least until Cambodia forms a new government, expected in late September.
Instead, discussions would be temporarily left to the border committees on both sides, he said.
Growing tensions over ancient sites along Cambodia’s northern border seem to auger badly for pending Thai-Cambodian negotiations over disputed sea borders that potentially hold rich oil fields.
45 comments:
Thailand is too desparate seeing Cambodia has oil and more friends.
Thailand has never ashamed of taking Khmer's properties.
Thais are desparate while King Bhumibol is about to expire.
Hope King Bhumibol has the gut to admit before he dies how he came to the throne.
Who were conspirators killed Thai King, his old brother? in million Birmese, they believed that the CIA helped Bhumibol to rob Thai King's throne, King Ananda Mahidol.
King Bhumibol's boss in Washington stay silent and let Bhumibol causes troubles in Cambodia.
Now Hun Sen support Iran and Kuwait.
It reminds me about the WWIII may be exploded from Cambodia. Every nation wants a piece of Khmer oil, and the war will start and spread all over until Tonlesap wil fill up with blood (Chheam dap pourss domrey).
The US has to handle careful. Sending puppet Thai to steal Khmer temples and provoke war in Cambodia is bad, because it will give signal to Cambodia to tie friendship with muslim nations, then will lead to radical muslims who knows?
If the US continues to support Thai aggressive, don't blame Hun Sen if he chooses to support Iran.
It is my sincere hope that Washington DC (District of Columbus) does not become a new Thailand capital city (in the not-too-distant future).
Moreover, it is my belief that it would be judicious for Thailand to keep Bangkok -- as it’s the capital city of Thailand (not Washington DC), because Thailand is certainly does not want to become (yet) another Israel (de facto state?).
Further, I see there is uncannily similar between Thailand (particularly in the south) and Israel. Certainly, Thailand has more problems on the horizon -- and, of course, greater challenges ahead.
Khmer farmer
The race of robbers (Siams)continue to rob other nations from the olden times to the modern days of globalization.
Where are the superpowers? Give the Siams the carrot or stick for them to choose.
TO MR HUN SEN,
The more you talk with the Siams, the More you lose.
You did a big mistake to withdraw the complaint back from the UN Security Council. You should have let them meet and get advice from the UN on what to do next and next with the issues of Preah Vihear and the borders with Thailand.
It is too sad if the situation will turn from fireworks dispays at the Olympic Stadium in Phnom Penh to firing of missiles at the border.
You have been in top power for many years, but now acting like a child
You are not smart in playing this kind of game with Samak.
You know, The Thais are strongly unified as one although some of the Thais may say this or that.
It is different from you as you have shut everybody's mouth if they speak about the loss of land to the Vietnamese. You may think that you have the power to cut this or that part of Khmers territory and offer it to whoever you want to give.
Seeing that the Thais want to see how may Khmers will be in jail if they start to say that you have made or will make any secret and illegal territory concession to the Thais.
Mr. Hun Sen, Khmers need you to act properly. Do not wash you hand off the issue by doing the crazy things and be always winner of you own phylosophy, that is I-ism.
2:36 PM
this SOB should have enough advisors to advise him on the issue, but his fucker is a fucking hardheaded shit, refuses to listen to anyone.
fucking loser
It takes such a shameless nation to do and claim such ridiculous think. Thailand has proven more and more to the world that their nation is controlled by a bunch on thieves. Does their king have any pride? Why doesn’t he come out and stop these robbers who are destroying their country already?
Thai has never been to war since they bowed to the west. The country suppose to produce something good to proude of. South Korean amazingly prouduce Kia, Hyundai, Samsong TV, Samsong mobile...Japanese is everthing about electronic, automobile...What has Thai produce? Nothing, and Oh Yeah good with robbing land, temple, and good at stolen identity. This Thai robber nation is good for nothing.
2:54 PM
thailand had ton ton of lady boys and well known to the west for bangcock.
After election nothing to be considered e.g about Border Disputes, the Main thing is every ministers,PM/Deputy PM etc... must run business to do every thing to keep, maintance their positions .. or find out/seeking more higher posts in the Government Office...etc.. Hor Nam Hong is running to to keep his post as FAM & DPM as he is affraid of that another one will take over e.g
Only Naek Ta Klaing Moeung Troops will save Cambodia
It’s quite ignominious to have seen my government flexes its military muscles ONLY against the most pregnable people – their own people – when evicting or crushing the protesters, yet so afraid and scared when dealing with foreign aggression.
My questions of the day: “Why are you so mean to your VERY own people, and yet so tenuous and pregnable and willing to succumb to foreign pressure?” And “what kind of leadership are planning to teach to your followers, children, grandchildren, and other generations, when you’re unable to utilize the same power you have used against your own people?”
Suffice to say, yes – when dealing with foreign aggression, which has egregiously violated our sovereignty and territorial integrity, I see the powerlessness of the Hun Sen’s administration. Whereas when dealing with forcible land evictions and peaceful protests, I see all kinds of powers that have been used against the most pregnable people.
Now, every Khmer citizens knows and understands the weakness of our leaders, who we thought very impregnable and tenacious leaders, when, in fact, these leaders are pregnable and tenuous coward when dealing with someone or something that is more powerful than them. Now, we understand!
Khmer farmer
Slapp heuy khmers!Preah euy chhuoy phoang.
Gentleman
Thailand seems to be really persistant on trying to invade this area, knowing full well that area belongs to cambodia.
This must be a win win for Thailand in trying to do so.
This area appears to be mining area where Cambodia has yet developped, and also temple is the cultural monument which wanted by Thailand.
It may be the only choice but the raises issues to UN.
And it is perhaps the time for all political parties put the differences to rest.
Neang SA
Prerequisite course before joining the newly elected government: “How to grab land and forcible evictions 101” course is currently being offer by the Hun Sen's University in Phnom Penh, taught by the CTN executive producer.
Also, “how to kill and murder your peaceful protesters peacefully course 101” will be offered later in the year by Sun Sen’s advisor, Dr. Kiev, PhD.
Should you have further questions, please contact either Lt. Gen. Kiev Sopshit or Mr. Kiev Kannarat.
Khmer farmer
Please blame every thing to ah Hun Sen and his cronies for lacking of competent and for abusing every thing in Cambodia. If Ah Hun Sen is good, Thailand won't do like that. We must look at Dangkov chenh pisach aing instead. Ta Prum
Fucking a Siamese do not speak nice to them and they may not understanding Thailand at the movement the land belong to Cambodia and hole Thailand is our Cambodian land, so we need to fight better than we talk very nice to them at all and I believing that when our Cambodian get war with A Siamese the US goverment may not to help them as they know hole land in Thailand belong to Cambodia many years ago, if US to support A Siamese the 3rd war will be start, I hope US should know that whom behind the Cambodian former King Sihanouk and his cooking Chinese and his bodyguard is North Korean,I just want to remind the US that do not support A fucking Siam and all the land belong to Cambodia when a Siamse excape from China many years ago do not have any land after arrive in Cambodia land and robe Cambodia and every Country know that fucking A Siamese/Thais and a yuonese/Vietnamese the former Chinese roberry many years ago, from Cambodian Victim.
Excellency Chum Kosal /Advisor can help to solve border Problem with Khun Thais
This guy got Bsc from Ppenh Unv. of Laws/Admin. but he rarely attended the Class.. he is clever..
Please help to solve....
Many exellecies/just like this make Thais look down on our Government
Hey, Stupid Thais mother f--kers, you are nothing but a thieve and never give up trying, do you? If you want a temple bad enough, why don't you build one of your own. You can't just rob people for it.
Remember, many dreams do come true, but this is a big-impossible dream-Don't dream it to hard.
When going to UN all contracts/agreements after Paris Accord between both parties may be revised/ also with VN and many other secret deals/business may be revealed.......
So that Govt is afraid.......
He is Smart... lost Cam-land but no loss his own benefits
Listing Ta Moan temple as a Thai UNESCO World Heritage? what are you clowns doing? foolish, childish and unacceptable behaviours. First you invaded Cambodia, now you're attacking us by attempting to list this ancient Ta Moan temples, which is in CAMBODIAN TERRITORY, as a Thai UNESCO World Heritage? you idiots. We've been very patient to you and you keep escalating the tensions. You think your Thai armed force is so superior? Superior in stealing? cheating? and being the most disgraceful, non-rational armed force in the world. If you ever achieved in any of your disgraceful goals (stealing our territory including temples), I swear to god, I will remove the world happiness from your Thai dictionary and spread chaos instead.
Canberra, Australia.
5:22 PM
must be our idiotic leaders who make theme look down like
hun sen and his governmenttt is weeak that why the thai is doing like to us,
why our government is so stupid and dont do nothing, our government are so good kick our people out of our land rapping young girls in koaroke bars shooting in air
i feel so shame for our governm
hun is stupid let thai order us around, think hun sen is afraid thai will kill him and famiily business in srok khmmer
lot khmerr people hate hun sen but we foreced to vote for him, the crasy usa and eu are crook too they don't kare about us and country
we hate hun sen veryy much
After we Thais claimed our ownership over the Prah Viharn and Ta Moan Thom, there were hundreds of Prasat which Thailand will claim that those Prasats are the Thailand ancestral Prasats.
The Kumpuchean doesn't have any of those prasats, the kampuchean come from vietnamese high lander and mixed with Meo and Hmong culture.
Thailand will stay firm for the principles, by protecting of our ancestral and the will use of forces of any means.
Ratthani,
Thailand.
"The Kumpuchean doesn't have any of those prasats, the kampuchean come from vietnamese high lander and mixed with Meo and Hmong culture"? Big words from an person who have learnt no realistic history. You should read some history books that westerners spent years in research. Then you can find out yourself that Kumpucheans are native people unlike the Thai people who came to Kumpuchea's lands, claimed their lands and conquered their territory. I wish those who falsify the history to suffer from great punishments worse than living in hell.
Ratthani, I will hunt you down and make your life so miserable.
Canberra, Australia.
7:42 PM
This guy is Khmer and pretends to be Thai.
I think enough is enough for this game.
People will fuck you up. So don't play games.
Please, We must understand our defeats during Cambodia dark's age. This is how we should be proud to be khmer. To accept our defeats. this is how a man would become a stronger, better as a person. of cuz with hopes. but without fualty hopes.
Thai people have endure for centuries for their existance over our land. It must be really difficult for them to cope with the facts. we must understand each other. Khmer culture is a riddled WAR in their nature. and this is the result of our defeats.
To accept defeats is the new beginning of victory.
we cannot take all the land back, it's impossible. because the people have become the land its self. It's the land of people not of particular race. Thai people have earn their victory and become the land.
WE Khmer should be proud that once we was the majestic Empire.
WAR has consequences, and it's the prize we must endure to our soul. This is what we are. This is our country. This is our pride. we must treasure and live on as what we are.... even it'll take 100 years, 1000 years.. We must carry on our wills to be a better nation.
one day we'll all can live together as one.
better Khmer Pride
26 yr olds
(please ignore those shitty mind people)
What the hell you try to say 8:41PM say it clear with real objective boy! You sounded like 12yr olds!
Dude 8:41PM,
Are you even sure what are you talking about??
We've been dealing with our lost after Khmer Empire. All we care now is to protect our lands now.
We didn't go back and say we reclaim shit from Thai way back. Did we do that? The answer is no!
Which part of nonsense don't you understand?
We just want to protect the current lands and our soveignty now.
We didn't invade the Thai and defeat shit.
We as patriotic Cambodian has an obligation to defense our nation.
To live as a nation you can't accept who keeps invading us constantly. We tired of war, we don't want to start this. But seems the Thai wants war. They knew that can still suck Cambodian dry but I'm telling you now it is not going to happens with this modern day.
And don't try to discourage our compatriots.
Khmer United, Khmer live!!
Ah Siam Lop! lop!
Siam lop that!
Thais will be died one by one if they continue to make trouble to the khmer empire.
What kind of proof Siam has to claim temple Ta Moun belong to them? They should be ashame to clain something that is not belonging to them. Who built the temple? Truly is Khmer ancester. Siam does not have any ancester, beside a gang of thief from the jungle. Asham Siam...Ashame!!! Khmer are ready to fight, but we prefer diplomacy over war!!!
My beloved Khmers!
My simple desire to provide practical, easily understandable advice, if only Hun SenVarman and his bloodsucker's CPP parasites are not entirely afraid of their master Youn, therefore they can freely talk and ask the UN help first before initially shooting the robbers, Siam!
Go to hell and don't return Ai KING
ADONYADET ai king of Thai Land you idiot should open your other eyes that hasn't blind and tell your Generals to get out of Kampuchean 's Land ,or Kampuchean have nothing to loose ,the one that hurt more is ai Thai thieves! Get Out now
Khmer soth
Ah thai king does not want to die in peace, but he want to die in a bloody war....heheee he'll go to hell for sure!!!
Hey that Bhomibol is going to give Khmer's provinces back to Khmer when he is going to die.
Damn stupid Thai's king hurry up!
Give the provinces back to Khmer!!
Yeah man that the most gayish Thai's king in the region or in the world.
He is so gay!
I hate siam king... He has no reason to live. He should be condamn by the lord of the hell to hang him permanently under the foot step of all khmers!!!!
Die...die the stupid thai king...
Sign,
Asiatheres,
9: 42, 10:03
that's right we have been dealing with the past. But have we been dealing with it the right way?? look at our history carefully.
the characteristics of the nation is amongs the leader behaviour. The father King, Lon Nol, Pol pot, Heng samren, Hun Sun. what I see is this ...
Too much pride, it spat all over souht east, even china.
showing off, Jelousy, and differences are the result of being racist. Being racist because we cannot accept defeats. and Being racist is the start of WAR.
WAR market do exist. There is an opportunitist. We didn't oversee that.
My message is clear and simple : Do not repeat mistake, let us focus on our selve, do not poke the neighbor.
Please, accept defeats and let us live. This is how we should become stronger, and better.
Let us live at our own will, forget about patriotic. forget about natioanalistic. forget about us. LIV E LIFE
better Khmer Pride
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Neak Ta Klaing Moeung will help Khom...
"Surrender ????"
SWOT Analyse
win-thai
Stength:
we are stronger because most of military support is from individual's private property-means we are rich no need government budget.
Siams use govt budget to supply army.
Human resources- a lot of Generals-Phd. Excellencies- Co-ministers/Primeministers/ a lot of Kings/Samdachs..Oknhas
Budget: unlimited- collecting from people/monks/poors
Military strength- qualified/ mostly ghost soldiers (invisible)-many Generals
Margic Spell/Black margic: very effective- one thai army died may be due AIDS
Financial resources: land/govt. , any stateowned properties buildings/ heritage natural resources can be sold quickly to buy weapons without any parliamentary Approval ...
Power- handed only one strong man/ every thing can be decided fast...
Political Parties: no need to oppose any govermental decision
Infrastructure-very poor- makes rhais army difficult to move into Cam-territory
Economy: Low- Thais have nothing to eat when invade into Cam....
Weakness:N/A
Oppoertuny- unknown
Treat: uncountable/unknown
Conclusdion- Cam wins Siams unconditionally
Excellency Dr. Bandit Oknha Achar Knoy- Phd. in multi-disciplinary Subjects: Poli/Multi-econom. Laws /From Chea Chamreourn Unviersity PPenh/Campuchia
we have many evidence such as Phd. Theses regarding the Temple easy to prove UN to win prah viharn case... Khom do not have much... they have only Phd. Useless Phd without theses....
campuchia has only Advisors ... excellenciesPhd.& high posts officers without any respetive technical knowledges...
we will submit other temples as world heritages soon....samrap
bateysray...
wichai
May I propose Bangkok Royal Palace as Khmer Heritage
stupid thai people live us alone .. we don't want to associate with you low educated people. Please shut all the border gate permanently.
land Grabbing by powerful men in Cambodia is not different from powerful thai grabbing khmer land...PPenh authority used armed force to grab land and now Thais do the same...
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