Mon, August 4, 2008By Supalak Ganjanakhundee
The Nation
The Thai foreign ministry defended on Monday the deployment of troops at the ruin of Ta Muen Thom temple in the Northeastern Thai province of Surin.
The troops have been over there for years, said the ministry's chief spokesman Tharit Charungvat.
However, Var Kimhong, chairman of the Cambodia Border Committee, told Agence France Presse that Ta Muen is in Cambodia's territory.
Cambodia also alleged that Thailand had occupied the ruin since 1998 by sending 70 Thai troops to protect the historical site.
The Thai foreign ministry, however, dismissed Cambodia's claim of alleged Thai encroachment.
Earlier, Thailand and Cambodia were also locked in a border military stand-off over the Preah Vihear Temple following the listing of this ancient Hindu ruin as a World Heritage site.
Ta Muen Thom, the 13th-century Hindu temple situated on the Thai-Cambodian border, is a group of three pagodas.
The area is part of the disputed boundary where demarcation has not yet completed.
According to Tharit, the presence of Thai troops should not be seen as a cause of conflict since both countries have armed forces to provide safety in the area.
"Thailand has not boosted the number of troops," he added.
Commander of the Thai Armed Forces, Gen Boonsrang Niumpradit, yesterday called on Cambodia to pull back its troops from the area to avoid a further dispute.
But Cambodia's Defense Minister Tea Banh did not respond to the call, he said.
According to Thai authorities, the Ta Muen complex is in Thai territory as evidenced by the Fine Arts Department's registration of the ancient ruin as a Thai national archeological site 73 years ago.
Meanwhile Thailand has nominated Prasat Ta Muen Thom, which becomes the latest border dispute with Cambodia, to be listed as a Unesco World Heritage site, Fine Arts Department director general Kriengkrai Sampatchalit said Monday.
The Unesco is scheduled to consider the Thai nomination of the Prasat Ta Muen Thom and other Prasats in Surin, Buri Ram and Nakhon Ratchasima under "the Khmer Civilisation Route," in its meeting next year, he said.
"It is true that the Prasat is located just about 100 metres from the border in the Thai soil. The Fine Arts Department has found and registered as one our Thai ancient items since 1935, or about 73 years ago," he said.
The Thai side has since then renovated it and opened it for public long time ago, he said, adding the Cambodian government has acknowledged the renovation and all activities related to the place.
Kriengkrai also responded to a latest report last week that the Khmer troops tried to cross the border to visit the place, but the Thai army declined their attempt. The Khmer troops reportedly intended to station there.
He said Prasat Ta Muen Thom has usually welcomed all visitors but the Thai army stepped in to take care of the Khmer visit because they came in uniform and were armed with weapons.
The troops have been over there for years, said the ministry's chief spokesman Tharit Charungvat.
However, Var Kimhong, chairman of the Cambodia Border Committee, told Agence France Presse that Ta Muen is in Cambodia's territory.
Cambodia also alleged that Thailand had occupied the ruin since 1998 by sending 70 Thai troops to protect the historical site.
The Thai foreign ministry, however, dismissed Cambodia's claim of alleged Thai encroachment.
Earlier, Thailand and Cambodia were also locked in a border military stand-off over the Preah Vihear Temple following the listing of this ancient Hindu ruin as a World Heritage site.
Ta Muen Thom, the 13th-century Hindu temple situated on the Thai-Cambodian border, is a group of three pagodas.
The area is part of the disputed boundary where demarcation has not yet completed.
According to Tharit, the presence of Thai troops should not be seen as a cause of conflict since both countries have armed forces to provide safety in the area.
"Thailand has not boosted the number of troops," he added.
Commander of the Thai Armed Forces, Gen Boonsrang Niumpradit, yesterday called on Cambodia to pull back its troops from the area to avoid a further dispute.
But Cambodia's Defense Minister Tea Banh did not respond to the call, he said.
According to Thai authorities, the Ta Muen complex is in Thai territory as evidenced by the Fine Arts Department's registration of the ancient ruin as a Thai national archeological site 73 years ago.
Meanwhile Thailand has nominated Prasat Ta Muen Thom, which becomes the latest border dispute with Cambodia, to be listed as a Unesco World Heritage site, Fine Arts Department director general Kriengkrai Sampatchalit said Monday.
The Unesco is scheduled to consider the Thai nomination of the Prasat Ta Muen Thom and other Prasats in Surin, Buri Ram and Nakhon Ratchasima under "the Khmer Civilisation Route," in its meeting next year, he said.
"It is true that the Prasat is located just about 100 metres from the border in the Thai soil. The Fine Arts Department has found and registered as one our Thai ancient items since 1935, or about 73 years ago," he said.
The Thai side has since then renovated it and opened it for public long time ago, he said, adding the Cambodian government has acknowledged the renovation and all activities related to the place.
Kriengkrai also responded to a latest report last week that the Khmer troops tried to cross the border to visit the place, but the Thai army declined their attempt. The Khmer troops reportedly intended to station there.
He said Prasat Ta Muen Thom has usually welcomed all visitors but the Thai army stepped in to take care of the Khmer visit because they came in uniform and were armed with weapons.
20 comments:
THAI WHOLE THAILAND WILL BECOME CAMBODIA, WHY? BEAUSE THE WHOLE THAILAND BELONG TO CAMBODIAN. A SIEM AND A YOUN NOTHING TO PROUD, WHY? BEAUSE THEY GOT NOTHING TO SHOULD THE WORLD THAT THEY CAN CREATED SOMETHING BY IT OWN!. LOOK A VIETNAMESE COPY EVERYTHING FROM CHINA, lOOK AT THE VIETNAMESE WRITE SYSTEM IT ALL IN LATIN (ABC-Z) LOOK THAT THAI THEY GOT ABOUT 90% OF KHMER LANGUAGE IN IT WRITE SYSTEM ALL OF THESE FUCKING (SIEM AND YOUN) A FUCKING ANIMAL, EVIL, THIEVE AND UNCIVILIAZD PEOPLE!!!
We must inform to the UN that we have our rights to oppose the Prasat Ta Moeun for listing to UNESCO because this temples are belong to Khmer. There is no such thing that the Thai robbing us then claim that they are their.
HUN SEN, you need to do something!!!!!!!!!!!
Prasat Ta Muen Thom - a tug of war between Cambodia & Thailand
If you're not aware, one of my biggest passions is visiting ancient Khmer temples, dotted around the Cambodian countryside. However, there are a series of Khmer temples in northeast Thailand that I have yet to visit so I was particularly interested in a report from Radio Free Asia's correspondent Kim Pov Sottan yesterday - the full report is in the Comments section - which highlighted the issue surrounding the 12th century Angkorean temple of Prasat Ta Muen Thom - which is in fact three ruined structures all with the same name - in a location that seems to be on the very border between Cambodia and Thailand. If you speak to the Khmers in the locality, they'll tell you that the temple is Cambodian and that the Thai's have stolen it in the last few years, whilst the Thai's have assumed responsibility for the temple and built a paved road for easy access for visitors. The report from RFA suggested that even the Thai military commmander for the area claims that the temple is in a 'white zone' which is technically a disputed, no-man's land. Cambodia has experienced border disputes with Thailand and Vietnam over many years and the long drawn-out process to resolve them and agree on the exact position of the border markers is frustratingly slow. Cambodia has a history of disputing temple ownership with Thailand, with Preah Vihear being the most publicized but Prasat Ta Muen Thom is important in it's own right and if both countries are claiming ownership, somehow the deadlock needs to be broken. At the moment, Thailand is in possession and Cambodians are left to peer over the fence at this reminder of their glorious past
Thai (or siam) must go back to Nan Chao, this is there they really come from.
Personally, Cambodia and Thai need to go to war. War is imminent and can't avoid at all because Thai invades Cambodia in two places right now. We need to kick them out of Cambodia territory before they occupied our land. They play the same trick as Youn does. First come to do business and then occupy the land and claim it belongs to them.
We can't talk but fight. These criminal in the East and West try to rob us in day time.
Do Thai have a history to build Prasats or temples? The answer is NOPE. They stealed from us and claim they have a history of Prasats. Our land are beyond Bangkok that they stole from us and now they're not satisfied with their greed. They want more.
It's about time to teach them a lesson.
These army general sees our weakness because they know we don't have military power. They know our leaders are busy stealing money in their pockets. For 30 Years that Hun Sen in power, he never buy any tanks, airplanes, or naval ship. He only knows how to fuck the Viet girls.
"Do Thai have a history to build Prasats or temples?"
I hope the UN or UNESCO is not blind or stupid for being bias to Thailand on this second temples.
Thai knew if they can't get one thing they will hope on other and hoping the UN or UNESCO siding on their side. What ashame and stupid they look.
If the UN or UNESCO proof to be biased this world is wrong.
Thai never built any temples or Prasats at all.
UNESCO must take this matter seriously. And make the Thai repay all back to the Khmer.
Khmer Pride,
Siam and Youn are like a parasite or a leech and they have been doing this to Khmer for centuries. They have been sucking us dry. Our land had shrunk from generation to generation because of our passive attitude toward these invaders. Soon or later,we Khmer will be a minority in our Country. The only way we can survive and overcome these evilness is for Khmer around the globe (including Khmer Krom and Khmer Issan)to come together and be united as one race and willing to stand up and shed bloods with these bastards.
"It is true that the Prasat is located just about 100 metres from the border in the Thai soil."
= 100 meter in Thai soil? ahhahahah
The Siam is using their map again! Cambodian international map will verify the Siam claim to any Khmer land! The Siam can lie right now but they can't lie at International Court or at United Nations!
It is the nature of the Siam to cheat, to lie, and to steal!
I bet the Thai don't know how to play poker.
We (Cambodian) got all the good cards. You name it such as straight flush, one of a kind and etc..
We will go all in when the UNESCO ready to list this temple Prasat Ta Moan Thom.
Haha!!! We got em all!!!!
You idiots prolong the time and play in this game, then you idiots are willing to lose more and more. Perhaps you personally gain the power,the title as prime minister, and your clans in your seepeepee live happily and comfortably; But YOUR NAME WILL BE CALLED TRAITORS ALONG WITH YOUR CLIQUES AND CLANS; AND PEOPLE LEARN THIS: WE ARE IN THE CYCLE OF OUR KHMER HISTORY-BECAUSE OF POWER, SELF-INTEREST, POOR ATTITUDE AND SHORT-SIGHTED VISION AS A LEADER FOR THE SAKE OF OWNS, AND NARROW-MINDED TO WISE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICIZM; WE KHMER HAVE FALLEN FROM LIVING IN THE EMPIRE AND SEEMINGLY LIVE AS ALIEN ON OUR MOTHER-EXISTED CAMBODIA LAND!!!!!
"IN FAITH AND GOD WE TRUST".
We Khun Thais understand very well the spirit of your leaders who need only money and Power within kampuchea, he is strong man in Campuchea but weak with khun thais and Khun viet.....
we claim Preah viharn, ta man and others untill we return all to thais belongings and help the strong man in Power for half more century.... we again return Siam Rap, Badambang Posat..to our territory too...and use your leaders to be Priministers in this country forever under Thais Colony...
We Khun Thais learned a lot about the tactics, bad tricks of kampuchean administration applied with campuchean people to take over lands/land grabing and other properties.. so we used this trick/tactics to gain from Campuchia too... and we will win surely and Campuchea Army chief and leaders do not dare to fight with thais,,,,, please be sure sure we guarantee.. remember ...
Campuchea has no opportunity to protect territory they just fight within their country in Power Contest..
You see when just start of StandOff Cam-army has no equipment weapon and food to support army just Collecting from people, this is not sustainable...
And why Army Chief and high Rank officials are very Rich...
Campuchea is a most corrupted country so that we thais can buy any thing including its territory.....
Wichai rungrat
Krung Thep Mohanokorn
Wichai who ever you're!
Thanks for showing Cambodians weakness and I hope all these Cambodian goverments realize how bad they are. But to fight with Siam, Cambodians(Khmers) don't need tanks or air planes and Khmer could take your towns in 24 hours,and will drink your blood as well, remember these Khmer are experieces fighter.
Dear My Strong man & Madam,
you do not dare to strugle against Siams due to your internal weakness so that " Please appeal to Neak Ta Klaing Moeung Army.. to fight against Siams.."
No need to use Margic Spell....
" ..Margic Spell means READY TO SURRENDER "
Excellency Achar Bandit Oknha Knmoy
12:11pm...
remember these Khmer are experieces fighter//
Khab Khun Kab 12:11pm Khmer are expierienced Fighters But experience only with YOUR FELLOW KHAM/Khmers....With Thais is far differenmt..
And it is not just experiences in war But YOU NEED GOOD LEADERS/with capability nationalisdtic... TO LEAD YOU TO FIGHT .. OTHERWISE YOU WOULD ATTACK KHMERS AND KILL 3 MORE MILLIONS KHMERS AS KR TIME..
You need economic capability....your leader just loan money from foreigners... how can you fight against khun thais...?"
Wichai Rung Rat
Krung thep Mohanokorn
From Prah Viharn to Tamoan...to Siamrap, badambong , Nom Penh will belong to Krung Thep Mohanorkorn...
we will Offer Khmers PM to be PM forever, offer some millions dollars.....
Kampuchia will be under Siam+Viet Co-Colonisation
Wichai rungrat
Sokumvit V/krunmg thep mohanokorn
3:00 AM
Khmer Issan will join to cambodia if the capital move to Surin, OK?
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Wichai rungrat
Sokumvit V/krunmg thep mohanokorn
You are fucking fake Thai.
In Thai we write
Sukhumvit not Sokumvit
Maha Nakorn not Moho NoKorn
Khon not Khun
Wichai,
Internal and external are totally difference, example just you fight with your brother and fight with someone else. I dare you that Thias will not fight because Country stability, economy; and just to do the flip flop cheat the neighbor countries, but Cambodian have nothing to lose because it all had been lost.
we have many evidence such as Phd. Theses regarding the Temple easy to prove UN to win prah viharn case... Khom do not have much... they have only Phd. Useless Phd without theses....
campuchia has only Advisors ... excellenciesPhd.& high posts officers without any respetive technical knowledges...
we will submit other temples as world heritages soon....samrap
bateysray...
wichai
Prah viharn, Prasat Tamuan, Cham sagnam and Koh Kong Halek etc.. de jure and de facto belong to thailand because more percent of thais peoplehave have chance to visit the sites, and all modern infrastructure/raod are well connected from Thailand and mostly constructed and developed by Thailand.
Kham do nothing with those prasats...letf them alone for long time.
Chatchai
wichai,Chatchai, who ever may call Cheatchai or a Cheatthai.
Yoy can dream about it because dream is free, but in real life you ain't going to have a piece of it, well if this happen then it going to end up like Palestine and Esrael today.
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