21 November 2008
Op-Ed by Kok Sap
Originally posted at http://khamerlogue.wordpress.com
Apparently, for the last 200 years Siam has not been ruled or led by Siam origin. Also Siam made it clear in its history if there was Siam that must be no Khmer or else.
From Siam records, in 1932 other socialist inclined Sino ethnic groups put Teochow dynastic absolute rule in check. Then to exploit Khmer to strengthen control over its newly annexed Khmer provinces, in February 1945 Khuang, a Battambang native was permitted to found a political party called “Democrats Party” which later assimilated him a Siam Prime Minister and dictator. He was fierce in persecuting and suppressing his own Khmer identity and culture.
Presently Khuang’s Democrats Party is led by the English born named Abhisit. He is from wealthy Hakka permanent residents of England. Who can tell if his parents were not the enthusiasts of Mao Communist Party? He has purposely instigated racial hatred on and war over Khmer’s Preah Vihear. Also Abhisit is persecuting his fellow Hakka, Thaksin. This seemed awaking Khuang’s curse.
Abhisit is not afraid to sacrifice many innocent lives especially the ethnic Khmer for his gains. He is an ally of Sonthi Limthongkul-another non-Siam and leader of People Alliance for Democracy. Both are pledging allegiance to the monarchy and wanting to replace parliamentarian with dictatorial system.
In truth, they are elitists and out of touch with real people.
In contrast, Thaksin might have been corruptive in association but he was the first head of government to care for Siam millions of poor. He advocated for basic needs for the poor. Obviously he was too popular and a threat to the institutional hypocrisy. In Thailand, the buck stops at the King sitting room. None dared to question King Integrity.
Increasingly the populism, secessionism and socialism seem sweeping against the backward Bangkok absolutism. Although Thaksin is a Hakka and born in the occupied Lao territory. But evidently he is too respected by the poor.
Currently Thaksin is labeled an enemy to Bangkok ruling clan. He is accused of treason that earned King’s coup in September 2006. Since then, Bangkok is plagued in madness. There seem to be more violence in Yala-Pattani secession, deadly arm clashes with Lao and Khmer over Bangkok exaggerated borders, and constitutional blackmails.
From tyranny to democracy, post 1932 all coups halted Siam from being a democratic society. Now Thaksin persecution seems revealing truth on Bangkok century old hypocrisy. It is a treason already but the people do not say it yet. They begin to wiggle their heads as the world keeps scrutinizing Bangkok conspiracy from one to another.
Not long ago in the region, East Timor set an example of self determination and autonomy from its colonial dominance. That took the world for a long while before coming to rescue the suppressed people of East Timor. Same event may haunt Bangkok growing racial divides along with the sentiment of autonomy from Yala-Pattani and the reunification of Isaan old Kingdom with Lao. Also the new generational-racial and ethnic demands for equality in entitlements are ready to affront Bangkok despotic control.
In Bangkok, the obvious Sino ethnics are highly educated and allowed to have ethnic language schools in major urban. They also dominate all branches of government and economic lifeline. Others ethnics: Lao, Siam, Yuon, Khmer, Burma and Malay are treated unequally.
For the monarchists to make Thaksin an enemy of State is a dangerous move. He is very capable in mobilizing his supports to contest the radicals. The question is how passionate and determined Thaksin is to see that Siam returned to real people.It seems for now he is weighing his decision whether he will pursue his conscience or surrender to the unruly. But noting from the past history, to avoid the Crazy King Tak Sin fate, no matter what Thaksin must be alive and stay away from Bangkok coup plotters.
From Siam records, in 1932 other socialist inclined Sino ethnic groups put Teochow dynastic absolute rule in check. Then to exploit Khmer to strengthen control over its newly annexed Khmer provinces, in February 1945 Khuang, a Battambang native was permitted to found a political party called “Democrats Party” which later assimilated him a Siam Prime Minister and dictator. He was fierce in persecuting and suppressing his own Khmer identity and culture.
Presently Khuang’s Democrats Party is led by the English born named Abhisit. He is from wealthy Hakka permanent residents of England. Who can tell if his parents were not the enthusiasts of Mao Communist Party? He has purposely instigated racial hatred on and war over Khmer’s Preah Vihear. Also Abhisit is persecuting his fellow Hakka, Thaksin. This seemed awaking Khuang’s curse.
Abhisit is not afraid to sacrifice many innocent lives especially the ethnic Khmer for his gains. He is an ally of Sonthi Limthongkul-another non-Siam and leader of People Alliance for Democracy. Both are pledging allegiance to the monarchy and wanting to replace parliamentarian with dictatorial system.
In truth, they are elitists and out of touch with real people.
In contrast, Thaksin might have been corruptive in association but he was the first head of government to care for Siam millions of poor. He advocated for basic needs for the poor. Obviously he was too popular and a threat to the institutional hypocrisy. In Thailand, the buck stops at the King sitting room. None dared to question King Integrity.
Increasingly the populism, secessionism and socialism seem sweeping against the backward Bangkok absolutism. Although Thaksin is a Hakka and born in the occupied Lao territory. But evidently he is too respected by the poor.
Currently Thaksin is labeled an enemy to Bangkok ruling clan. He is accused of treason that earned King’s coup in September 2006. Since then, Bangkok is plagued in madness. There seem to be more violence in Yala-Pattani secession, deadly arm clashes with Lao and Khmer over Bangkok exaggerated borders, and constitutional blackmails.
From tyranny to democracy, post 1932 all coups halted Siam from being a democratic society. Now Thaksin persecution seems revealing truth on Bangkok century old hypocrisy. It is a treason already but the people do not say it yet. They begin to wiggle their heads as the world keeps scrutinizing Bangkok conspiracy from one to another.
Not long ago in the region, East Timor set an example of self determination and autonomy from its colonial dominance. That took the world for a long while before coming to rescue the suppressed people of East Timor. Same event may haunt Bangkok growing racial divides along with the sentiment of autonomy from Yala-Pattani and the reunification of Isaan old Kingdom with Lao. Also the new generational-racial and ethnic demands for equality in entitlements are ready to affront Bangkok despotic control.
In Bangkok, the obvious Sino ethnics are highly educated and allowed to have ethnic language schools in major urban. They also dominate all branches of government and economic lifeline. Others ethnics: Lao, Siam, Yuon, Khmer, Burma and Malay are treated unequally.
For the monarchists to make Thaksin an enemy of State is a dangerous move. He is very capable in mobilizing his supports to contest the radicals. The question is how passionate and determined Thaksin is to see that Siam returned to real people.It seems for now he is weighing his decision whether he will pursue his conscience or surrender to the unruly. But noting from the past history, to avoid the Crazy King Tak Sin fate, no matter what Thaksin must be alive and stay away from Bangkok coup plotters.
50 comments:
Well said, Khuang was a Thai-Sino-Khmer born in Battambang. He suppressed his motherland Cambodia.
An astrologist confided with me at a Thai temple in Hollywood. That Bhumibol is the last king of Thailand...maybe the end is near since the rural poor of Thailand is tired of the Chinese control of Bangkok. Thaksin will be the next King Tak Sin from exile.
It doesn't matter what Khmer in Thailand does, Preah Vihear still belong to them. Ah Monkey from Cambodia must stay out of it. No one is asking them for any help. You got that, you greedy motherfuckers?
go fuck your self ah thai boy !! and stop pretent you own the land and shit !!! you 're not god . we are ..
5:31AM - Your fucking Siam, scum race on Earth, listen carefully.
Khmers in Thailand are waiting for the war to break out so that we can unite and fight along side with our brothers from Cambodia to take back our land. Ask your fucking butcher general Viboonsak Neepan. He knows exactly what I am talking about. Our muslim friends in Yala and Pattani will join the fight to reunite their mother country Malaysia. Death is coming to all your fucking Siams.
Khmer Brotherhood
STFU, Ah Fake. You ain't stealing any temple from Khmer People in Thailand, fool!
6:18am, don't waste your time with Siamese; they are in denial 'cause Thais Cannot take the truth. THEY ARE AFRAID TO LOSE AN INCH TO CAMBODIA 'CAUSE THEY KNOW THEY LOSE MORE IF THEY CONCEED TO CAMBODIAN.
THAILAND INTERNAL DILEMA WILL RIP THEM APART, THEIR SOCIETY WILL FALL. JUST BE PATIENT, LET THAIS SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT.
THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.
I just name my dog, Bhumibol.
You motherfucker siem. I'm not lived in cambodia country,but i want to fuck you at any time mother fucker.I will blow your face away ok motherfucker.
times is coming for siam to tear aparts what putomnear .thai king near the end if you all measure in thai situation about crisis will be 6 more months in drinking of war .first two parts and than thirst part and last fourth part .
well know from situation of secret ,mp
San Baap, Ban Baap! Wait and watch.
Khuang Aphaiwong was the son of the last governor of Battambang Povince, Lord Governor Chhum. He was half Thai because his mother was Thai. He was educated in France, came back to Battambang but moved to live in Prachinburi province, now renamed Sakeo province, when Battambang was returned to Siam (Thailand) in 1907.
The present Thai dynasty, The Chakri Dynasty, was founded by a Chinese man named Thaksin, the same name as the present Thaksin Shinawatra, in the late 18th century. and all of the Thai kings after Thaksin of the Chakri Dynasty were subsequently called Rama I, II, III.... and the present King Bhumibol is named Rama IX (Rama 9th).
I got mad with Ah Siem they killed lots of khmer in the khmer-Siem boder since 1979 motherfucker of Ah choymray Siem.
Thai should surrender to Cambodia and no As, If or But. Because if the war between Siam and Khmer really happen. Thai ain't get nowhere to run or hid, My point is you Thai or Siamese whatever you called yourself doesn't have no friend or neighbors. If you leave for oversea, Ther're Khmers everywhere waiting to kick your ass. Where there's sun rise, There're Khmer. And Southeast Asia is our home. Remember that you greedy Siamese.
To all Khmers,
Should set aside from our internal conflict!!!..Just mind your people, your country, and your economic.
We,Thai, Know how to deal with situation. Bhumibol is no longer my king! That stupid guy not deserved respect from people. Soon you will see a new president of Republic of Thailand.
Long Live Republic of Thailand..
A Thai republican
To all Khmers,
Khuang Akphayvong was a Khmer, a great great grandson of Khmer traitor,Siam puppet, Chaufa Ben. It was a traitor who ceded Khmer provinces to Thailand. The same way Ah Hun SEn is doing by ceding khmer territories to Vietnam.
In late 17th century, Preah Ang Eng had been put non khmer throne at the age of 6 year old.
Three khmer ministers named Mu, Su, and Ben controlled the Khmer administration. Three of them fought each other for power.
Ben ceded Battambang, Sisophon, M'lu Prey, Siem Reap to Thailand. So Thai king gave him a title as a VASSAL as Akphayvong family(S'dec Tranh) in Monthon Borapha (moldoul borpea in Khmer).
In 1907 France took Battamnbang back to Cambodia. The last descendant of Ben name Kakthathorn Chhum moves all his belonging, and families, and resettled in Prachin Buri.
Khuang Akphayvong was a real Khmer, speak khmer, but treat his own people as slaves, the same like Ah Hun Sen is doping today in Cambodia which will be a state of Viet Indocchinese Federation, a 2nd Champa, no later than 2030.
The author of Norna Chea Kheatakors reas khmers ?
To all Khmers,
Khuang Akphayvong was a Khmer, a great great grandson of Khmer traitor,Siam puppet, Chaufa Ben. It was a traitor who ceded Khmer provinces to Thailand. The same way Ah Hun SEn is doing by ceding khmer territories to Vietnam.
In late 17th century, Preah Ang Eng had been put non khmer throne at the age of 6 year old.
Three khmer ministers named Mu, Su, and Ben controlled the Khmer administration. Three of them fought each other for power.
Ben ceded Battambang, Sisophon, M'lu Prey, Siem Reap to Thailand. So Thai king gave him a title as a VASSAL as Akphayvong family(S'dec Tranh) in Monthon Borapha (moldoul borpea in Khmer).
In 1907 France took Battamnbang back to Cambodia. The last descendant of Ben name Kakthathorn Chhum moves all his belonging, and families, and resettled in Prachin Buri.
Khuang Akphayvong was a real Khmer, speak khmer, but treat his own people as slaves, the same like Ah Hun Sen is doping today in Cambodia which will be a state of Viet Indocchinese Federation, a 2nd Champa, no later than 2030.
The author of Norna Chea Kheatakors reas khmers ?
If Thai country is splitting into pieces, all Khmer in Thailand must reunification with the motherland or declare yourself independent cause if you afraid the YOUN control whole Cambodia.
Look at Yugoslovia, they broke up into so many pieces. I hope those Khmer have some sort of patriotism in them.
We Khmer will open our arms to embrace all of you.
The end of Thai state is coming near.
Khmer sra-lanch cheat!
Khmers never gave value to their own people just because of their PERSONAL SELFISH. I wish I could do magic to switch their brains to Khmers FOREVER, I mean FOREVER.
BSk
9:40 AM
I wish I can understand what your I trying to say. I mean I wish.
The temple belongs to Khmers in Thailand, not monkeys in Cambodia.
5:31AM
Yes, I do agree with you that Preah Vihear also belong to Khmer in Thailand. Khmer in Thailand has as much rights to claim over Preah Vihear like any other Khmer around the world. However, keep in mind that ONLY KHMER can claim over Preah Vihear and NOT THAI. As long as THAILAND remain as THAILAND, THAILAND can not laid any claim over Preah Vihear. If THAILAND want to laid claim over Preah Vihear, THAILAND must first change the name to KHMERLAND, KHMER SURIN or KHMER LEU. Because Preah Vihear was builded by the Khmer while the Thai was still a slave to China in a place called Nan Chao.
If you really want to claim Preah Vihear, you must first call yourself Khmer and not Thai. My suggestion to you is starting to call yourself Khmer from today onward.
5:31AM
Yes, I do agree with you that Preah Vihear also belong to Khmer in Thailand. Khmer in Thailand has as much rights to claim over Preah Vihear like any other Khmer around the world. However, keep in mind that ONLY KHMER can claim over Preah Vihear and NOT THAI. As long as THAILAND remain as THAILAND, THAILAND can not laid any claim over Preah Vihear. If THAILAND want to laid claim over Preah Vihear, THAILAND must first change the name to KHMERLAND, KHMER SURIN or KHMER LEU. Because Preah Vihear was builded by the Khmer while the Thai was still a slave to China in a place called Nan Chao.
If you really want to claim Preah Vihear, you must first call yourself Khmer and not Thai. My suggestion to you is starting to call yourself Khmer from today onward.
Bullshit, 1:32, Preah Vihear belongs to Khmer in Thailand alone, not Ah Fake in Cambodia. The Khmer in Thailand had lived with it since day1, not Ah fake in Cambodia. The Khmer in Thailand had live in the area since day1, not Ah Fake in Cambodia.
Therefore, as the owner of the temple, the Khmer in Thailand can do whatever it please, including sharing it with its family Thai and Lao. Get it?
yo even tho , it belong to khmer in thailand or what ever .. thailand does not represent khmer as a whole .. cambodia dose .. and the history tells we own it . understand ? thai is tai speak totally different language. they 're not khmer man . and we call them siem = mon + tai
2:27
dream on .. ass hole , and you're not khmer, u motherfucker. khmer only exists in cambodia at the present.
Dear All,
stop talking to 2:27pm, he is mental. he is a khmer impostor pretending to be a khmer surin or thai. even if he is a real khmer surin, don't talk to him because he is mental.
The Kingdom of ancient Kamboja gave birth to all Khmers ... understand ?... not ah tai pai kor dai motherfucker
How can Cambodia own the temple? No one from Cambodia ever lived on that mountain, except for Khmer in Thailand. No one Cambodia have house, farm, school, .... . It is just impossible.
3:25, your fake history in Thai's schools tought you the different between Khmer in Thailand and Cambodia. do you understand about your History Lesson in Thai is Fake? Why you do not read about the real history?
You keep saying about Khmer in Thailand, and Cambodia. Khmer are Khmer.
From Khmer in Dubai
Yeah, Khmer are Khmer, but they don't own all of the temples. Each Khmer has their own temple in their province already.
Just look in the US, does the Khmer in California own the temple in Minnesotota? ...
2:27PM, 3:25PM, 9:01AM
You just don’t get it, do you? Your race is so good at cheating and distorting the truth and the history. Instead of building your own temples and monuments, you just go around and steal it from other nations. I just designed several new toilet seats for a US firm, and I names those toilet seats Abhisit, Bhumibol, Rama …
Good job 11:20PM. Can you made your toiletseat brandnames free to all Siameses so that they don’t have steal them, please?.
..7:53 AM. You are wrong. The present Thai king is a Khmer-Mon descendent from Rama I who overtnrew and killed King Taksin. Please see Cambodian-Thai history by by M.L. Manich Chhum Sai. Rama I or Chakrey was from Takeo provoince. Khuong Aphaywong is also 100% Cambodian from Wat Narea in Battemabang, just like Sarith Thanarath. Of course they served the Thai interests.
Stop complicating thing, 11:48. You don't need history for this. The temple located on the mountain, and it was build for people who live on the mountain, not people who live in Phnom Penh. Again this is no difference from the empire state building was build for people who live in New York, not people who live in Florida. Get it?
4:36 AM: you are just like a frog in the dirty well. You are just like those Khmers who became traitors, and are happy to see the loss of Khmer land. Buddha's shapes appeared every these days in Cambodia and in the US. You won't be escaped from his punishment.
4:36
yOU'RE AN IDIOT AND A KHMER TRAITOR. GET THAT???
11:48am, from what i read Thaksin, a chinese man, killed the Thai king and declared himself king and proclaimed the Chakri dynasty, the present dynasty. i read this a long time ago so i will not dispute your claim until i have checked the facts first. Toch Chhuong, a Cambodian writer, did claim that the Thai king of the Chakri dynasty was from Tram Sor Sor village, Samrong commune, Toukmeas district, Kampot province. His claim was not backed up by any documentary evidence, but hearsay. A lot of Khmers dismissed this claim.
Khuang Aphaiwong or Khun Khuang or Luang Kovid became Thai PM from 1944-45. He was half Thai. He was the son of Governor Chhum, the last governor of Battambang. Governor Chhum has 24 wives, and Khuang's mother was the 10th wife, she was a Thai and her name was Neak Rot. He was the only child of Neak Rot. He was the most educated among all of Chhum's son because he went to study in France.
Sarit Thanarat was not Khmer, he was Laotian, he was born near the Lao-Thai border, i forgot the province he was born because i read this a long time ago.
Wow, I learned so much from reading the comments from the participants. I heard of "Luang Kathathon" as the traitor of the Khmer nation before. I heard that the Luang Kathathon and his descendant are bestowed with the Khmer term of "Apaiyawong". The Khmer people still use that title for the senators and representatives. For example, ApaiEkasidth, etc. Apai = forgiven.
Vong = family. I heard one time that a Khmer man went to learn some English language skills in Thailand under the soponsorship of one of the ApaiyaVong family members. One of them showed the Khmer student that he could belittle the Thai soldiers/police without incurring any harm or penalty. So to prove it, he started to curse the Thais with Khmer-Thai words. As a result, he was detained and interrogated. However, they released him as soon as they found out that he was a descendant of "ApaiyaVong." lol.
Throughout Cambodian history and I noticed that when a Cambodian person is set up to be a leader of Cambodian people and this very same Cambodian leader turn around and brutally suppressed his Cambodian population without mercy!
AH Khuang Abhaiwong is a good example of Cambodian leader set up by the Thai as a Trojan horse to destroy Cambodia and Cambodian people! Then came AH POL POT!
In the present day, it would be AH HUN SEN set up by the Vietcong government as a Trojan horse to destroy Cambodia and Cambodian people too! Since AH HUN SEN came to power under the Vietcong guidance and he began his ruthless suppression of the Khmer people and the Khmer Krom people and plundered Cambodian richness!
AH Khuang Abhaiwong = AH HUN XEN
Stop all nonsense, if Preah Vihear located in Long Beach, then it belong to Khmer in California, not Khmer on the Thai mountain, not Khmer in Svay Rieng, not Khmer in Phnom Penh.... . Thus, the location of the temple is what determine who the owner of the temple. Get it?
10:58 is correct.
Hmm ... sounds like Ah Pleu-Oversea is trying to steal the temple from Khmer in Thailand. The motherfuckers are pure evil from Hell. Everywhere they go, destruction follow.
We need to build more mass graves for Ah Pleu-Oversea.
Definitely!
To 10:58 AM Thaicong mother fuckers!
No! You and your Thaicong bitches and bastards need to stop all the fucken nonsense and to use such stupid Thaicong logic as if the Khmer people don't know what is right and what is wrong is one looking mother fucker!
Stop all the nonsense Thaicong bitches and bastards and why don't you tell your Thaicong leaders to look at the clear define map of 1907 which the Thaicong leaders help drew this very map with the French to separate between Cambodia and Thailand?
Stop all the fucken nonsense because the fucken Thaicong leaders refused to accept the fact base on historical document and history book!
Sorry to say that Thaicong logic doesn’t apply here and only Thaicong would believe in their moronic Thaicong logic! Don’t forget that the Thaicong leaders have no right to redraw any fucken new map to take what belong to Cambodia otherwise the Thaicong leaders will bring destruction upon themselves!
Rubbishes, fool (11:48). French maps or history has nothing to do with who own the temple. The temple was build by Khmer's king for khmer on the mountain, and they have lived there for 30-40 generations, and that temple belong to them, and you ain't gonna steal it from them, you got that, scumbag?
To 12:15 AM Thaicong mother fuckers!
Do you ever listen to your stupid Thaicong logic? Listen up fool! The Khmer never steal or divide any Khmer from other Khmer people! It is the Thaicong leaders who want to divide the Khmer people. And this is the reason why the Thaicong leaders are floating the concept that Khmer Phrea Vihear belong to Khmer in Thailand! What about Khmer in Cambodia and Khmer in Vietnam?
It is funny to see these Thaicong bitches and bastards speaking on behalf of the Khmer people in Thailand and want to claim what belong to the Khmer as their heritage!
It is funny to learn that the Khmer in Thailand are fighting for their survival to keep what is Khmer and to protect the Khmer language due to Thaicong government oppression.
The Khmer people knew long time ago that there are only one Khmer people, one Khmer empire under one Khmer King! Now in the 2008, why are there Khmer in Thailand, and Khmer in Vietnam? The answer is simple! It is the Thai and the Viet who separated and divided the Khmer people!
Why would the Khmer want to fight another Khmer to claim what belong to Khmer in the first place and why would the Khmer want to stay or coexist with the Thai or the Viet for all Thai and the Viet naked aggression and oppression on the Khmer people? It doesn't make any sense at all!
Remember what belong to the Khmer will belong to the Khmer and the Khmer in Cambodia, Khmer in Thailand, and Khmer in Vietnam are one!
The Khmer need to learn from Khmer history of their root and the Khmer don't need to fight each other just to please the Siam and the Youn okay! This is 21 century and the Khmer people of today have more knowledge than the Khmer of 100 years ago and the Khmer don't need the Siam and the Youn to speak for them!
You greedy piece of shit (6:46), the temple belongs to khmer on the mountain, not khmer-oversea, Khmer in Kampot, Khmer in Phnom Penh, ... , or Khmer in Svay Reing. You got that?
9:34
Did you suck Phumiphon's cock??? Your breath smells like his cum...
Prasat Preah Vihear will always belong to Khmers, not an asshole scum like you that serve Krung Thep's interests.
"Ai kbot hlong chati meun meung mai chai kon Khamen laew, mai tong ahng tua pen kon Khamen."
You piece of slut (10:27), the temple was build for Khmer on the mountain, not monkeys in Cambodia. If they want to build it for your sluts, they would have built it where it is more accessible to your sluts, not on the mountain. Get it?
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