Radio Free Asia
By Chea Makara
27th December, 2008
Translated from Khmer by Khmerization
The Cambodian government has reiterated that Cambodia is ready if Thailand violates the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of Cambodia while the current border disputes have not yet been resolved.
Minister of Information and government spokesman, Mr. Khieu Kanharith, has told reporters on Saturday like this: “If Thailand decided to invade, we will not allow them to invade us easily. We have been prepared, even if Thailand has many jet fighters, that we are ready because in the war it is not important if they have jet fighters or not, because in the early stages of fighting they have to consider which side will suffer the most heaviest casualties. So, it is not so easy for Thailand (to invade Cambodia).”
Mr. Khieu Kanharith said that if the fighting along the borders erupted, Cambodian requires around 17,000 to 20,000 troops.
He added that after the clashes between Khmer-Thai troops on the 15th of October, 2008, the Cambodian government has conceptualised three possible scenarios. First, Cambodia and Thailand must resolve all border problems in a total package. Secondly, there will be military confrontations without actual fighting occurring. And thirdly, wars will break out along the borders between the two countries.
Mr. Khieu Kanharith added that the Cambodian government has chosen the second scenario and that is to avoid armed conflict and continue to engage in bilateral talks and the Cambodian government can complain to the United Nations only when Thailand invades Cambodian territories.
Please note that border disputes with Thailand had occurred after Unesco had decided to inscribe the Preah Vihear temple into a world heritage list in July, 2008.
By Chea Makara
27th December, 2008
Translated from Khmer by Khmerization
The Cambodian government has reiterated that Cambodia is ready if Thailand violates the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of Cambodia while the current border disputes have not yet been resolved.
Minister of Information and government spokesman, Mr. Khieu Kanharith, has told reporters on Saturday like this: “If Thailand decided to invade, we will not allow them to invade us easily. We have been prepared, even if Thailand has many jet fighters, that we are ready because in the war it is not important if they have jet fighters or not, because in the early stages of fighting they have to consider which side will suffer the most heaviest casualties. So, it is not so easy for Thailand (to invade Cambodia).”
Mr. Khieu Kanharith said that if the fighting along the borders erupted, Cambodian requires around 17,000 to 20,000 troops.
He added that after the clashes between Khmer-Thai troops on the 15th of October, 2008, the Cambodian government has conceptualised three possible scenarios. First, Cambodia and Thailand must resolve all border problems in a total package. Secondly, there will be military confrontations without actual fighting occurring. And thirdly, wars will break out along the borders between the two countries.
Mr. Khieu Kanharith added that the Cambodian government has chosen the second scenario and that is to avoid armed conflict and continue to engage in bilateral talks and the Cambodian government can complain to the United Nations only when Thailand invades Cambodian territories.
Please note that border disputes with Thailand had occurred after Unesco had decided to inscribe the Preah Vihear temple into a world heritage list in July, 2008.
91 comments:
Can we defeat Thailans if our leaders don't seem to care much about defending their country? What I mean is that their soldiers have not been well equipped with modern weapons.
US had modern weapon, but they were still defeated by Vietnam. If we have fighting spirits as Tais did when they declared independence from Khmer rules, AK47s are enough to defeat them.
Mr. Khieu Kanharith,“If Thailand decided to invade, we will not allow them to invade us easily."
I have been prepared, even if Thailand has many Mekong Brandy bottles, that we are ready because in the sobriety war it is not important if they have skilled brewers or not, because in the early stages of drinking they have to consider which side will suck-up the most heaviest quantities.
So, it is not so easy for Thailand to intimidate me because in Cambodia I have put down French stronger Ox or even British top quality Brandy,Johnnie Talker liter in a miniscule time.”
We stock Ox or Johnnie for the hard time,don't worry be happy...
Everything is in control since our Xom'Ach has the singular sight on straight shot already.
Some percents of about 5000 US soldiers got killed by poorly equipped weapons such as AK 49 and B 40.
how about yuon invaded...and now live all over cambodia...what uuu going to do ....bow your head...and yes sir...be real...the invader is yuon indeed....
According to some sources,
Thailand is in deep trouble with internal affairs and looking to politicize anything to seek the world attention. Preah Vihear is something the THAI can prey on Cambodia for now...
Viet puppet Hun Sen, on the other hand has been instructed also to politicize the matter to divert and distract the world's attention from the Vietnamization of Cambodia and the final push for the completion of the federation of Indochina.
The Preah Vihear case has been closed for decades by the Hague. There is no way that Thailand can reverse that. The Viet experts and lobbyists all know full well and ready to go to court to help secure the future of the Federation in cooperation with and/or on behalf of Cambodia.
Either way Cambodia under Viet puppet HUN SEN stands to lose on this again: there is nothing to win on the case whereby Thailand has already lost decades ago. What Cambodia lost is her being gotten closer and closer to her demise while contributing in her entirety to the birth of the Viet Feferation of Indochina.
It's so sad...This is Viet-Cambodia under HUN SEN and Sihanouk families!!!
ไอ้พวกสัตว์เดรัจฉานชาวไทยทั้งปวงเหล่านี้ เกิดขึ้นมาเป็นโจรปล้นทรัพย์ที่ดินของผู้อื่นตายไปมันจะพินาศตกนรกทั้งหมด!
รวมทั้งไอ้หมาใหญ่ 3ตัวข้างล่างนี้:
ไอ้หมา อภิสิทธิ์ เวชชาชีวะ
ไอ้หมา นพดล ปัทมะ
ไอ้หมา กษิต ภิรมย์
อีนางแม่มดแก่สิริกิต ไอ้เฒ่าเจ้าเล่ห์ภูมิพลรับใช้ไอ้ฉิบหายอภิสิทธิ์ เวชชาชีวะ และพวกสมุนโจรยึดสนามบิน มึงแก่จนหีเหม็นควยเน่าจะตายอยู่วันสองวันแล้วยังไปรังแกคนดี ไอ้จักรีจัญไรตายทุกปียิ่งดี ชาติเขมรจะได้เจริญสักที
"Mr. Khieu Kanharith added that the Cambodian government has chosen the second scenario and that is to avoid armed conflict and continue to engage in bilateral talks and the Cambodian government can complain to the United Nations only when Thailand invades Cambodian territories."
What the fuck are you talking about Mr. Khieu Kanharith??? The surrounding area of 4.6 km2 is in under Cambodian sovereignty according to the 1904-07 Franco-Siamese treaty and ICJ 1962!!!
Thailand has invaded Cambodia for three months now, and you guys do nothing except scratching your smelly balls.
Yes, they 'll wait until Cambodia getting burnt to the ground by Thailand first. Let's just hope that she ( Thailand ) needs more time to get herself out of trouble with their own kind first before they pull this trick of invading our land, becuase right now if they do, they're going to be nothing, but sorry.
Remember Thailand avoid helping us while we were under pol pot's regime, becuase they don't want to go to war. Thailand could have her chance of her solid allied with Cambodia, but what did she do? Nothing.
Sichan Siv escaped and spent himself in jail of Thailand. She should have got some serious clue #1. Clue #2 Cambodian border was closed to no one from the outside. What did she do? agian nothing. Who cares she said to herself? Too much trouble for nothing and we were right next door. A horrible crime happened right next door to her and she did nothing.
In the way, Vietnam was smart. Can you blaim them? Kind of too late now. Why? See Vietnam Federation my friend and if you insist, Thailand will bleed three times, if more.
She might just well do that to get her family together. Get ready Kiev and Oh God almighty! you would not wish that to happen.
What year did Mr. Sichan escape Cambodia? 1976 my friend.
Here are the facts about Preah Vihear:
1) The Thai army is armed and equipped by the West.
2) The U.S. provides about $120 MILLION in military aid to Thailand each year.
3) Current Thai incursions in Khmer territories have tacit approval from Western powers.
4) KI-Media, Lao Mong Hay, Sichan Siv, and most overseas Khmers are pro-Western. They do not want to see Cambodian territories seized by the Siams but are unwilling to stand up to their governments.
5) The pro-Western stance of the Khmer elements described above complicates national unity and resolve to effectively tackle the conflict.
6) All Khmers must continue to engage and bring our case to international bodies, including the powerful Western allies of Thailand, but...
7) ...when it comes to matters concerning life and death, Khmers must choose between China and Vietnam. I suggest China.
I thank you.
- Khmer Patriot, Ph.D.
To A Dummy Khieu Kanharith ,
Cambodia will be buerned to the ground in a minute!
Thai side:
With 320,000 thais' troops, 3,000 heavy weapons, 1,300 M1A1 and M1A2,
100 F-14 Tomcats, F15 Eagles, F16 Falcons, F18 Hornets and 500 C130 Transports planes.
750 Helicopter includes ah-64a apache helicopter ground attack ...
150 to Air Missiles, surface-to-air missile...
155 War Ships and 12 Sub.
1,500 105MM howitzers and 155MM howitzers
M16, M18, M79
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Cambodia side:
140,000 Troops
Few SAM-7 shoulder launchers
Few Mig 17 and Mig 21 with vietnamese pilots.
65 Cannons made in China and Russa
55 tanks T54-T55
B-40 and B41
AK-47
Don't fuck with Thailand
we will walk all over you huh?
Damn.. I didn't know Thai people could read !
yeah..y'all keep on blah..blah...blah...We'll see
who's who and what's what...keep on barking...
That's sad,y'all couldn't control all those demonstrators against your government,and you'll think you could have achance to beat Cambodia? May I remind you that there are some khmer rouge soldiers still active...they'll whipped your she-male's ass so fast you wouldn't know what hit y'all... barking on...
FUCK THAILAND
khmer from siem reap province
បងប្អូនខ្មែរទាំងអស់ជាទីរាប់អាន
នៅទីនេះមានសាសន៍សៀមចូលមកលូកលាន់ដែរ
ដូច្នេះ បើបងប្អូននិយាយជេរគ្នាឯង សូមសរសេរ
ជាអក្សរខ្មែរទើបល្អជាង។ ជៀសវាងកុំឲ្យ សាសន៍
ដ៏ទៃ វាពេបជ្រាយឲ្យយើង។ ប៉ុន្តែ ប្រសិនបើបង ប្អូន គ្មានអក្សរខ្មែរ ហើយសរសេរជាអង់គ្លេសនោះ
យើងគួរគាប្បីសរសេរ ក្នុងលក្ខណៈសមរម្យ ពោលគឺ កុំចំអេះចំអះពេក។
សូមអរគុណ
Bullshit! Thai could not even confront Lao in the 80s. They had asked some of the Cambodians resistant to fight for them back then b’cause they were afraid to die. How could they dare invade Cambodia in full scale? They already taste the brief fighting recently with Cambodia and well aware how it was to fight poor equip but well tactic and fully alert and ready with many years of civil war fighting experience. They have to choose an option to live, not to die. Australia want to arm Cambodia before, but Thai protested about the idea because they were afraid of Cambodia. Sure enough they can no longer stop Cambodia from getting armed. Cambodia will be armed again and ready to protect itself from Thai invasion. It’s not a stone age. This is the 21st century. Be aware Thailand.
Cambodia is ready (to surrender) if Thailand invades. That's what the title should read, Ah Jkout (Gorilla Fucker).
4:008 AM,
Pointing finger at yourself eh? LOL!
Re: ...when it comes to matters concerning life and death, Khmers must choose between China and Vietnam. I suggest China. I thank you. Yuon patriot, Ph.D. from Hanoi ...
This con-artist Ph.D from Hanoi working for Youn is testing the water...here on KI-Media.
Go home Ph.D from Hanoi, go back to Hanoi where all of your Viet/Yuon "Lam Tuy (sp?)" are treating you just like a king as per your life painting story....Damn fake worthless Ph.D!
Summary of the Summary of the Judgment of 15 June 1962
CASE CONCERNING THE TEMPLE OF PREAH VIHEAR
(MERITS)
Judgment of 15 June 1962
Proceedings in the case concerning the Temple of Preah Vihear, between Cambodia and Thailand, were instituted on 6 October 1959 by an Application of the Government of Cambodia; the Government of Thailand having raised two preliminary objections, the Court, by its Judgment of 26 May 1961, found that it had jurisdiction.
In its Judgment on the merits the Court, by nine votes to three, found that the Temple of Preah Vihear was situated in territory under the sovereignty of Cambodia and, in consequence, that Thailand was under an obligation to withdraw any military or police forces, or other guards or keepers, stationed by her at the Temple, or in its vicinity on Cambodian territory.
By seven votes to five, the Court found that Thailand was under an obligation to restore to Cambodia any sculptures, stelae, fragments of monuments, sandstone model and ancient pottery which might, since the date of the occupation of the Temple by Thailand in 1954, have been removed from the Temple or the Temple area by the Thai authorities.
Judge Tanaka and Judge Morelli appended to the Judgment a Joint Declaration. Vice-President Alfaro and Judge Sir Gerald Fitzmaurice appended Separate Opinions; Judges Moreno Quintana, Wellington Koo and Sir Percy Spender appended Dissenting Opinions.
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In its Judgment, the Court found that the subject of the dispute was sovereignty over the region of the Temple of Preah Vihear. This ancient sanctuary, partially in ruins, stood on a promontory of the Dangrek range of mountains which constituted the boundary between Cambodia and Thailand. The dispute had its fons et origo in the boundary settlements made in the period 1904-1908 between France, then conducting the foreign relations of Indo-China, and Siam. The application of the Treaty of 13 February 1904 was, in particular, involved. That Treaty established the general character of the frontier the exact boundary of which was to be delimited by a Franco-Siamese Mixed Commission
In the eastern sector of the Dangrek range, in which Preah Vihear was situated, the frontier was to follow the watershed line. For the purpose of delimiting that frontier, it was agreed, at a meeting held on 2 December 1906, that the Mixed Commission should travel along the Dangrek range carrying out all the necessary reconnaissance, and that a survey officer of the French section of the Commission should survey the whole of the eastern part of the range. It had not been contested that the Presidents of the French and Siamese sections duly made this journey, in the course of which they visited the Temple of Preah Vihear. In January-February 1907, the President of the French section had reported to his Government that the frontier-line had been definitely established. It therefore seemed clear that a frontier had been surveyed and fixed, although there was no record of any decision and no reference to the Dangrek region in any minutes of the meetings of the Commission after 2 December 1906. Moreover, at the time when the Commission might have met for the purpose of winding up its work, attention was directed towards the conclusion of a further Franco-Siamese boundary treaty, the Treaty of 23 March 1907.
The final stage of the delimitation was the preparation of maps. The Siamese Government, which did not dispose of adequate technical means, had requested that French officers should map the frontier region. These maps were completed in the autumn of 1907 by a team of French officers, some of whom had been members of the Mixed Commission, and they were communicated to the Siamese Government in 1908. Amongst them was a map of the Dangrek range showing Preah Vihear on the Cambodian side. It was on that map (filed as Annex I to its Memorial) that Cambodia had principally relied in support of her claim to sovereignty over the Temple. Thailand, on the other hand, had contended that the map, not being the work of the Mixed Commission, had no binding character; that the frontier indicated on it was not the true watershed line and that the true watershed line would place the Temple in Thailand, that the map had never been accepted by Thailand or, alternatively, that if Thailand had accepted it she had done so only because of a mistaken belief that the frontier indicated corresponded with the watershed line.
The Annex I map was never formally approved by the Mixed Commission, which had ceased to function some months before its production. While there could be no reasonable doubt that it was based on the work of the surveying officers in the Dangrek sector, the Court nevertheless concluded that, in its inception, it had no binding character. It was clear from the record, however, that the maps were communicated to the Siamese Government as purporting to represent the outcome of the work of delimitation; since there was no reaction on the part of the Siamese authorities, either then or for many years, they must be held to have acquiesced. The maps were moreover communicated to the Siamese members of the Mixed Commission, who said nothing. to the Siamese Minister of the Interior, Prince Damrong, who thanked the French Minister in Bangkok for them, and to the Siamese provincial governors, some of whom knew of Preah Vihear. If the Siamese authorities accepted the Annex I map without investigation, they could not now plead any error vitiating the reality of their consent.
The Siamese Government and later the Thai Government had raised no query about the Annex I map prior to its negotiations with Cambodia in Bangkok in 1958. But in 1934-1935 a survey had established a divergence between the map line and the true line of the watershed, and other maps had been produced showing the Temple as being in Thailand: Thailand had nevertheless continued also to use and indeed to publish maps showing Preah Vihear as lying in Cambodia. Moreover, in the course of the negotiations for the 1925 and 1937 Franco-Siamese Treaties, which confirmed the existing frontiers, and in 1947 in Washington before the Franco-Siamese Conciliation Commission, it would have been natural for Thailand to raise the matter: she did not do so. The natural inference was that she had accepted the frontier at Preah Vihear as it was drawn on the map, irrespective of its correspondence with the watershed line. Thailand had stated that having been, at all material times, in possession of Preah Vihear, she had had no need to raise the matter; she had indeed instanced the acts of her administrative authorities on the ground as evidence that she had never accepted the Annex I line at Preah Vihear. But the Court found it difficult to regard such local acts as negativing the consistent attitude of the central authorities. Moreover, when in 1930 Prince Damrong, on a visit to the Temple, was officially received there by the French Resident for the adjoining Cambodian province, Siam failed to react.
From these facts, the court concluded that Thailand had accepted the Annex I map. Even if there were any doubt in this connection, Thailand was not precluded from asserting that she had not accepted it since France and Cambodia had relied upon her acceptance and she had for fifty years enjoyed such benefits as the Treaty of 1904 has conferred on her. Furthermore, the acceptance of the Annex I map caused it to enter the treaty settlement; the Parties had at that time adopted an interpretation of that settlement which caused the map line to prevail over the provisions of the Treaty and, as there was no reason to think that the Parties had attached any special importance to the line of the watershed as such, as compared with the overriding importance of a final regulation of their own frontiers, the Court considered that the interpretation to be given now would be the same.
The Court therefore felt bound to pronounce in favour of the frontier indicated on the Annex I map in the disputed area and it became unnecessary to consider whether the line as mapped did in fact correspond to the true watershed line.
For these reasons, the Court upheld the submissions of Cambodia concerning sovereignty over Preah Vihear.
4:49 AM,
Don't worry too much about that Ph.D from Hanoi individual. That person can't even begin to have the comprehension of acquiring a toilet paper Ph.D from Hanoi. The person is just a troller that loves to come onto KI-Media and start shit with the Cambodian readers/posters because that person finds it fun, entertaining and receives attention. It's most likely that the "Ph.D from Hanoi" is the same person as "Khmer on the mountain" and the "pro-CPP", etc. etc. identities.
อีนางแม่มดแก่สิริกิต ไอ้เฒ่าเจ้าเล่ห์ภูมิพลรับใช้ไอ้ฉิบหายอภิสิทธิ์ เวชชาชีวะ และพวกสมุนโจรยึดสนามบิน มึงแก่จนหีเหม็นควยเน่าจะตายอยู่วันสองวันแล้วยังไปรังแกคนดี ไอ้จักรีจัญไรตายทุกปียิ่งดี ชาติเขมรจะได้เจริญสักที
ไอ้พวกสัตว์เดรัจฉานชาวไทยทั้งปวงเหล่านี้ เกิดขึ้นมาเป็นโจรปล้นทรัพย์ที่ดินของผู้อื่นตายไปมันจะพินาศตกนรกทั้งหมด!
รวมทั้งไอ้หมาใหญ่ 3ตัวข้างล่างนี้:
ไอ้หมา อภิสิทธิ์ เวชชาชีวะ
ไอ้หมา นพดล ปัทมะ
ไอ้หมา กษิต ภิรมย์
We thai, rather conquest Campucha, before Campucha becomes vietnamese.
So, the fouth Indochina wars will begin as soon as the two country finish high level talked. Thailand must move southward as we promise in 100 years Thailand border at Vietnam border. So, where is Campucha ?????
Oh shut up 5:20AM. Thailand ain't gonna risk doing that nor is it in their best interest. This whole Preah Vihear thing is just political maneuvering by the Thai to distract the Thai people from the real internal problems of Thailand and create nationalist sentiments to garner support for the new prime minister. In a year, this whole debacle will die down.
To 5:10 am
We Khmers will kick your rotten Thai arses back to Yunnan, China...be prepared to surrender, thief!
The new Khmer Moha Nokor borber will be west to Myanmar, north to China, east to Vietnam, and south to Malaysia...no more Thailand...gone, zip! All Thai will become slaves and speak Khmer! You guys are 75% imitating Khmer culture already, so it would not be a problem to become fully Khmer again, get it???
We have Khmer-born nuclear scientists working for American nuclear labs for more than two decades. And we have been prepared in the event Siem invades Cambodia. Our scholars sent to the West in the last two decades studied nothing but high energy physics, nuclear engineering, mechanical engineering and related science. We will welcome Nanchao citizens with tactical nuclear, chemical, and biologically-tipped missiles and recapture the lost territories from the Khmer Empire era.
5:10 AM, I will wait and watch your prosime. So, how many days did I, Khmer, have less, fucking siam?
Let's count down to the final day!!
Absolutely, Siam will move southward and bury there all of them. Khmer already prepare as much grave as siam soliders.
Come on..Come on, We Khmer people so so scare and terribly afraid to bury Ah Ass-Siam alive.
Then your promise(Siam) will come true in the ground forever!!!
And Khmer so upset to hear that. lol
Do you know why Khmers can develop and retain WMDs? Because we kicked all of the superpowers out in the mid-70's and they never dared to step foot in our country ever again. Unlike Siem, the US has been keeping a tight lid on WMD develoment so in the event of war Siem will have to content with conventional arsenal just like my friend 3:12 am mentioned. So bring it on Siem!!
តិចអាចោរសៀមអស់នោះរាកអចម៏ដាក់ខោស្អុយឡប់លើ KI-Media ទៅល្បង "អត់ប្រាប់ឈ្មោះ"
៣:៣៥ AM? នៅមឹននៅ ទៅបំភ័យវាលេងអញ្ចឹង
ទៅកើតដែរ ល្បង! ហា៎ហា៎ហា៎!
និយាយអញ្ចឹង សុខសប្បាយទេ ល្បង?
សូមជួយចាត់ការអាយួនដុគទ័រមួយមកពី ហាណូយ
នោះបានទេ ល្បង?
អរគុណ៕
3:12, 5:10AM WOW!! you're so strong! these Julalongkon U truely shared the same Father with Mr. Abhi-Shit, let me tell you this young men! the mucle man is not able to smim, when the water is deeper, sinking like a Stone. Popfishe is better, moreover it's poisonous, watchOUT! young men!. Your war tools are fit to turn to your own Populations you will see, Abhi-Shit and Ka-Shit will have no place to hide. JUJUTSU SAIT well come Muoy THAI!. Down to Ah Siamese
Hey Ph.D @3:08am, this is the first time I've seen you talk some sense. But you have talked nonsense against the part you say overseas Khmer don't want to stand up. Remember, it was the overseas Khmer who are campaign for Hun Sen and Kanharith to bring the border issues to UN and ICJ but the coward leaders resisted so far. Hun Sen and his cronies don't care about our borders, what they care is their powers and money. Now I have a feeling that all or most of the territories Thailand has occupied will never be returned to Cambodia again because Hun Sen seem not to care about the border issues.
ហេ ល្បង ៤:០៣ AM,
ចុម ល្បង ឯងមឹនទាន់ដឹងថាពួកអាចោរ សៀម អស់ហ្នឹងវាជេរគ្នាវាសាហាវយ៉ាងម៉េចទេហ្នឹង?
កំព្រួយ ល្បង ខ្ញុំជេរតែអាងាប់នឹងកើត AIDS ដុគ
ទ័រមួយមកពី ហាណូយ មួយនោះទេណា៎ ល្បង!
សូមល្បងសុខសប្បាយណា៎។
អរគុណ៕
PLEASE RESPECT ME AS AN " INTELLECTUAL". I AM SO DESPERATE FOR RESPECT COZ I JUST OBTAINED MEE PHD
Khmer patriot Missile said so, so it must be so
I hate the bird that has two heads(youn head and khmer head)
Am sorry I mean to home made toilet paper Phd certificate receiver.
Shame on you!
Stop all these talks about what to do for cases 1, 2, and 3 that Mr. Kaharith just described. We are in case 3 right now with thai troops on khmer territories. We need to start the protracted guerilla war against thai military invaders now. We definitely are weaker militarily but we will win using a protracted war.
cheyo kampuchea
Yeah, you will win free coffin to the mass grave.
To the person who always seems to play different identity roles here on KI-Media such as "Khmer on the mountain" - "Khmer Surin" - "PhD from Hanoi" - "Siem wannabe" - "CPP guy"...etc. etc. This is a message for you:
You're such a fake. Why are you so deluded and always playing make-belief? Honestly, take one moment to put aside your comments here on KI-Media, look in the mirror and think to yourself. Then realize how deluded you've become ever since you've started posting on KI-Media. You're a sad example of a human being, my friend. Learn how to think productively and live in reality. Get off the computer and find a job or something or get out of your bedroom and find some friends. Be honest with yourself and come to the realization of how pathetic you've become in turning into this person that gets a thrill in writing nonsense on KI-Media in order to receive the attention that you lack outside of KI-Media.
Summary of the Summary of the Judgment of 15 June 1962
CASE CONCERNING THE TEMPLE OF PREAH VIHEAR
(MERITS)
Judgment of 15 June 1962
Proceedings in the case concerning the Temple of Preah Vihear, between Cambodia and Thailand, were instituted on 6 October 1959 by an Application of the Government of Cambodia; the Government of Thailand having raised two preliminary objections, the Court, by its Judgment of 26 May 1961, found that it had jurisdiction.
In its Judgment on the merits the Court, by nine votes to three, found that the Temple of Preah Vihear was situated in territory under the sovereignty of Cambodia and, in consequence, that Thailand was under an obligation to withdraw any military or police forces, or other guards or keepers, stationed by her at the Temple, or in its vicinity on Cambodian territory.
By seven votes to five, the Court found that Thailand was under an obligation to restore to Cambodia any sculptures, stelae, fragments of monuments, sandstone model and ancient pottery which might, since the date of the occupation of the Temple by Thailand in 1954, have been removed from the Temple or the Temple area by the Thai authorities.
Judge Tanaka and Judge Morelli appended to the Judgment a Joint Declaration. Vice-President Alfaro and Judge Sir Gerald Fitzmaurice appended Separate Opinions; Judges Moreno Quintana, Wellington Koo and Sir Percy Spender appended Dissenting Opinions.
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In its Judgment, the Court found that the subject of the dispute was sovereignty over the region of the Temple of Preah Vihear. This ancient sanctuary, partially in ruins, stood on a promontory of the Dangrek range of mountains which constituted the boundary between Cambodia and Thailand. The dispute had its fons et origo in the boundary settlements made in the period 1904-1908 between France, then conducting the foreign relations of Indo-China, and Siam. The application of the Treaty of 13 February 1904 was, in particular, involved. That Treaty established the general character of the frontier the exact boundary of which was to be delimited by a Franco-Siamese Mixed Commission
In the eastern sector of the Dangrek range, in which Preah Vihear was situated, the frontier was to follow the watershed line. For the purpose of delimiting that frontier, it was agreed, at a meeting held on 2 December 1906, that the Mixed Commission should travel along the Dangrek range carrying out all the necessary reconnaissance, and that a survey officer of the French section of the Commission should survey the whole of the eastern part of the range. It had not been contested that the Presidents of the French and Siamese sections duly made this journey, in the course of which they visited the Temple of Preah Vihear. In January-February 1907, the President of the French section had reported to his Government that the frontier-line had been definitely established. It therefore seemed clear that a frontier had been surveyed and fixed, although there was no record of any decision and no reference to the Dangrek region in any minutes of the meetings of the Commission after 2 December 1906. Moreover, at the time when the Commission might have met for the purpose of winding up its work, attention was directed towards the conclusion of a further Franco-Siamese boundary treaty, the Treaty of 23 March 1907.
The final stage of the delimitation was the preparation of maps. The Siamese Government, which did not dispose of adequate technical means, had requested that French officers should map the frontier region. These maps were completed in the autumn of 1907 by a team of French officers, some of whom had been members of the Mixed Commission, and they were communicated to the Siamese Government in 1908. Amongst them was a map of the Dangrek range showing Preah Vihear on the Cambodian side. It was on that map (filed as Annex I to its Memorial) that Cambodia had principally relied in support of her claim to sovereignty over the Temple. Thailand, on the other hand, had contended that the map, not being the work of the Mixed Commission, had no binding character; that the frontier indicated on it was not the true watershed line and that the true watershed line would place the Temple in Thailand, that the map had never been accepted by Thailand or, alternatively, that if Thailand had accepted it she had done so only because of a mistaken belief that the frontier indicated corresponded with the watershed line.
The Annex I map was never formally approved by the Mixed Commission, which had ceased to function some months before its production. While there could be no reasonable doubt that it was based on the work of the surveying officers in the Dangrek sector, the Court nevertheless concluded that, in its inception, it had no binding character. It was clear from the record, however, that the maps were communicated to the Siamese Government as purporting to represent the outcome of the work of delimitation; since there was no reaction on the part of the Siamese authorities, either then or for many years, they must be held to have acquiesced. The maps were moreover communicated to the Siamese members of the Mixed Commission, who said nothing. to the Siamese Minister of the Interior, Prince Damrong, who thanked the French Minister in Bangkok for them, and to the Siamese provincial governors, some of whom knew of Preah Vihear. If the Siamese authorities accepted the Annex I map without investigation, they could not now plead any error vitiating the reality of their consent.
The Siamese Government and later the Thai Government had raised no query about the Annex I map prior to its negotiations with Cambodia in Bangkok in 1958. But in 1934-1935 a survey had established a divergence between the map line and the true line of the watershed, and other maps had been produced showing the Temple as being in Thailand: Thailand had nevertheless continued also to use and indeed to publish maps showing Preah Vihear as lying in Cambodia. Moreover, in the course of the negotiations for the 1925 and 1937 Franco-Siamese Treaties, which confirmed the existing frontiers, and in 1947 in Washington before the Franco-Siamese Conciliation Commission, it would have been natural for Thailand to raise the matter: she did not do so. The natural inference was that she had accepted the frontier at Preah Vihear as it was drawn on the map, irrespective of its correspondence with the watershed line. Thailand had stated that having been, at all material times, in possession of Preah Vihear, she had had no need to raise the matter; she had indeed instanced the acts of her administrative authorities on the ground as evidence that she had never accepted the Annex I line at Preah Vihear. But the Court found it difficult to regard such local acts as negativing the consistent attitude of the central authorities. Moreover, when in 1930 Prince Damrong, on a visit to the Temple, was officially received there by the French Resident for the adjoining Cambodian province, Siam failed to react.
From these facts, the court concluded that Thailand had accepted the Annex I map. Even if there were any doubt in this connection, Thailand was not precluded from asserting that she had not accepted it since France and Cambodia had relied upon her acceptance and she had for fifty years enjoyed such benefits as the Treaty of 1904 has conferred on her. Furthermore, the acceptance of the Annex I map caused it to enter the treaty settlement; the Parties had at that time adopted an interpretation of that settlement which caused the map line to prevail over the provisions of the Treaty and, as there was no reason to think that the Parties had attached any special importance to the line of the watershed as such, as compared with the overriding importance of a final regulation of their own frontiers, the Court considered that the interpretation to be given now would be the same.
The Court therefore felt bound to pronounce in favour of the frontier indicated on the Annex I map in the disputed area and it became unnecessary to consider whether the line as mapped did in fact correspond to the true watershed line.
For these reasons, the Court upheld the submissions of Cambodia concerning sovereignty over Preah Vihear.
nice to read your idea, all have good ones
the thai soldiers cant jack shit but talk n never walk.lolz...
they were so scared of the khmer rouge in the 80's that they shit in their pant. all that modern weapons you have, the khmer soldiers will capture all that from you and use that against you.
khmer soldier in US
the thai soldiers cant do jack shit but talk n never walk.lolz...
they were so scared of the khmer rouge in the 80's that they shit in their pant. all that modern weapons you have, the khmer soldiers will capture all that from you and use that against you.
khmer soldier in US
100 F-14 TOMCAT,that's just bullshit.Those are toy gun.
Guys, militarily we will never win because the odds are against us.340,000 well-equipped thai troops versus 140,000 poorly-equipped khmer troops. the thai got one aircraft carrier, more than 300 jet fighters, hundreds of tanks and helicopters. Cambodia has a few old russian and chinese-made tanks and jet fighters. But we must make it appear that we are not scared of them or we must defend our territories at all cost. A full scale thai invasion like the 1979 vietnamese invasion will never happen. Thailand will not do that or the world community will never allow thailand to do that. We have to defend our territories at all cost!
Ah Khiev Kanhnarridh is a stupid ugly pig. Before, he chastised the Khmer kings for losing the Kampuchea Krom territory to Ah Youns because according to ah Khiev Kanharridh the Khmer kings were mediocre. Ah Soy Sopheap, another crazy yacking ugly looking dog also said that Ah Siems would not dare shoot the temple of preah Vihear. Well guess what. Ah Hun Sen could not do jackshit if ah Siems would open an all-out fronts with Cambodia. This was what happened when ah Youns encroached upon the Kampuchea Krom territory. In addition, ah Siems also shot at and damaged some parts of Preah Vihear already. So what do you have to say to that ah pler ugly dog Soy Sopheap. Ah Hun Sen can't do jack shit if ah Siems decide to bombard Cambodia. Look at what Israel is doing to the Palestians right now. Nothing. What is my point to all of this? I just to say that stop being a Yackety yack talking heads, and learn to understand what the real situation is.
10:22AM, I just come in, and now I respond to your comment. I think you should distiguish between America war against N. Vietnam and Cambodia war agaist Thailand, if it's gonna happen. It's gonna be very diffrerent. America war against N. Vienam was just like L. Nol war against the Khmer Rouge. This is the clue for you to find out differences.
fucking stupid clue. u don't have any clue yourself
Go study history properly. sick of badly educated idiot like this
TO Friend 3:12am
BUT Excellency Khieu Kanharith does is not afraid of Thai Power because:
1- Cambodia Side has manay many GENERALS(1 to 4 stars including one lady Men Sam An )
2- Many many Excellencies Bandits/Phd. Oknha
3- A lot of Equipment.. If you come to cambodia PPenh you can see a lot military Cop PM Police/ Soldiers with high Ranks drinking coffee any where any shops... YOU CAN SEE ALOT OF CARS VEHICLES DRIVE very fast with Light at day time.. covered by POLICE or MILITARY PLATES NUMBERS( all of mentioned vehicles mean belong to GENRAL...)..
4_...
Therefore we will win Thai Easily Firend...
1 ha 3 ton PPenh/cambodia
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Below is your source.
To A Dummy Khieu Kanharith ,
Cambodia will be buerned to the ground in a minute!
Thai side:
With 320,000 thais' troops, 3,000 heavy weapons, 1,300 M1A1 and M1A2,
100 F-14 Tomcats, F15 Eagles, F16 Falcons, F18 Hornets and 500 C130 Transports planes.
750 Helicopter includes ah-64a apache helicopter ground attack ...
150 to Air Missiles, surface-to-air missile...
155 War Ships and 12 Sub.
1,500 105MM howitzers and 155MM howitzers
M16, M18, M79
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Cambodia side:
140,000 Troops
Few SAM-7 shoulder launchers
Few Mig 17 and Mig 21 with vietnamese pilots.
65 Cannons made in China and Russa
55 tanks T54-T55
B-40 and B41
AK-47
Don't fuck with Thailand
we will walk all over you huh?
Cambodia site has alot of Ghost armies which can defeat Thais
Let me ask you the very well-educated son of the devil: Can you tell the differences between the K. Rouge and K. Lon Nol during the war? The Yuons too, You might not know which Yuon is the north and which Yuon is the south, You sob. I never cuss at anyone first, unless I am attacked first, You sob. I might have low education, but my moral is not. If you want to challenge face to face in writing Khmer, come on, try me; I can entertain you.
. . . and let me tell you: I am the one who wrote the first comment. Did I cuss at you?
9:13AM Did you remember the American lost their war in Viet Nam?
Are you thinking your Thai is the USA? Come on how many fag-get or homosexual Thai useless that can't fight? Too much bragging remember Thai used to be Khmer slave while we were building Ankor Wat( And your smart ass changed history That were the Khom who built it) Khom are our ancestors. Hop you clear a bout that
War is unwanted by all, including the two governments. It's just a political game.
I agree that, "this whole Preah Vihear thing is just political maneuvering by the Thai to distract the Thai people from the real internal problems of Thailand and create nationalist sentiments to garner support for the new prime minister."
I invite all of you to watch "Wag the Dog" to find out the proof of the above.
Raja
There is no need for war and bloodshed. Ah monkey must stay out of the mountain. They have no business up there. The temple belongs to Khmer on the mountain and they know how to handle everything without any help from any monkey.
I thinks 9:13AM watch to much Tom Cruise movie called Top Gun. This ain't no Hollywood dog. If all you have mentions are true than you must be richer than the US which I live here and pay my tax to Uncle Sam, and the $120 million dollars aid toward your military is expire on 2009. Because you use that money to slaughters your neighbor countries.
៩:១៨/៩:២១ AM,
តើលោកនិយាយពីអ្នកណាគេហ្នឹង???
The Thailand propaganda screen for the invasion was well prepared in advance. While calling for talks, the Thailand moved into the border areas, have you khmer people remembered? The vietnamese invaded Cambodia on January 7, 1979, and captured Phnom Penh within a matter of hours? They launched their Armies into full-scale and empty Khmer Rouge in Phnom Penh, fled back into exile and hide in the jungles. Nowday, Khmer has no more jungle to hide for guerrilla war. The Thailand could mass 14-15 divisions of their troops along the Cambodian border, in a move to prepare a full-scale murderous offensive to be launched against Cambodia. Followed by an invasion, then an occupation as well.
បើមេដឹកនាំខ្មែរនៅតែឆ្កួតវង្វេងតែនិងអាំណាច ខ្មែរគ្មាន់
ផ្លូវឈ្នះគេឡើយ។រឿងសង្គ្រាមដែលកន្លងមកហើយ
បានប្រាប់យើងយ៉ាងច្បាស់ថា យើងចាញ់គេរហូត។
10:25 AM,
The thai will not venture out for a real war...
10:25AM you sound so good to be true ,here is conclusion about Thai people there too many fag-get and HIV infection how can Thai kingdom using those kind of people and most of them are wimps .The computer is smart but if the people whom use it are dumb and freakin chicken the computer will dumb as well as the users ,despite the Thai has modern weapon but the operator of the equipment not so good thus it not gonna be guaranty to win over Cambodian fighters .
Before I state this Viet Nam war that have thrown khmer rouge away in 24 Hours ,
That wasn't a fair fight ,once I saw Russian troops ,Cuban troops and a lot more from block communist and then the Vietnam taking all credit to control Cambodia ,to my personal thinking with out the Giant block communist the Viet cong won't do any harm to the Pol Pot, On this matter Cambodian who is really really are true khmer should discuss this matter with the UN as well,why all the block communist back Viet Nam to slavery Cambodia?
To the mhong and mheo or indian what ever you can name your self,Cambodian government won't allowed the monkeys or apes to reside on the mountains period and the illigle monkeys will be in the zoo or execute for monkey jerky.
So have a good dream while you are still alive.
I would rather to combine Cambodia with Thailand to make a big Angkor Empire again than to be the puppet of Vietnam. Thailand and Cambodia and part of Kampuchea Krom used to be one Nation under the great King of Jey Varman IIV. If we combine again, it will not insulte our ancestors. It will indeed be pleased our ancestor spirits for uniting together. It look like a family with divided members. If we can bring our family together, what is our crime? Areak Prey
If Thailand has any sense to herself she'll not talk jackas like the one who braged about all the thai military power and all that. Thailand had maintained peace and had tried to grow herself for a century. If she is stupid enough to go to war and destroy herself in one night or one day or one month or one year etc.... So be it. We're ready. She can be the next middle east basket case.
Thailand should be Thailand. Vietnam should be Vietnam. Cambodia should be Cambodia. No combination. No speaking foriegn language.
The more I read IK-Media, I start to like very much. Between Pro and Foe.
This KI-Media really shows the true colored of Khmer or Not. The Polical War Game just about to begin and I will be alive to see Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand conquest in the 21st century.
11:53 AM
Hey, who are you prefer to
"Cambodian government won't allowed the monkeys or apes to reside on the mountains period and the illigle monkeys will be in the zoo or execute for monkey jerky".
Thai, Yuon or Khmer Nak tor Sou? whom against Hun Sen? Khmer Nak tor Sou brochhang Hun Sen mean nov krob ters ti rong cham thnai nah mouy ah kor Hun Sen ponnos. Khmer Nak tor Sou Ros leung vinh houy.....
Ah Pleu (11:59) is on drug. Khmer doesn't united. Khmer wants to be independence from each other, and they used the neighbors to achieve their goal.
Shut the hell up ah kangaroo. Khmer don't need to be united with ah yuon like you.
To 5:10 AM Thai that dreams of invade Cambodia (We thai...,the fouth Indochina wars..., Thailand must move southward as we promise in 100 years Thailand border at Vietnam border.)
You're admit to be bandits peoples.
The Khmer peoples are not surprise at all, we know our history.
The Khmer peoples know that Siame people are bad peoples.
Siame peoples likes to steals, robs, invades our territories including Surin and Nokor Reachak Seima “Nakhon Ratchasima, present-day Thailand.”
First of all, Siame peoples has been known to be bandits (a robber or outlaw) in Southeast Asia. It's seems like the Thai peoples proud to be bandit.
I just don't know what history text book you go by. Siame ethic is one of the Khmer ethic. Siame share some of the same words, letters, all of the numbers, cultures and traditions as the Khmer.
The Khmer empire rules all of Southeast Asia main land.
I know that you has been successful in the past and you guys try this again don't you?
Thai peoples have no shames.
I wonder if your mother and father teach you how to have no shames. Your mother and father teach you to steals, robs, invades our people's territories.
Preah Vihea Temple was built by Khmer Kings Suryavarman Ⅰ(1002–1050) and Suryavarman Ⅱ(1113–1150). Preah Vihea Temple was built the same style as Prasat Banteay Srei in Siem Reab, Cambodia.
Siem Reab is the name a province in Cambodia.
Siem mean Siame (Thai people).
Reab mean level.
Khmer defeated Siame.
Thai peoples said that Preah Vihea Temple is belong to Thailand.
Temple of Preah Vihear (Cambodia v. Thailand)
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=284&code=ct&p1=3&p2=3&case=45&k=46&p3=5
To all the Thai peoples, I urge you to go back to school and learn history in the regions and make sure that you learn from the right history text book. That's include everyone in Thailand, especially politician from the PAD.
Now, I hates this Thai MOTHER FUCKER that dream of invade Cambodia.
Now, I hates this Thai MOTHER FUCKER that dream of invade Cambodia.
Where did the Thai invading Cambodia?
You got it backward, motherfucker. It is Ah monkey from Cambodia who invaded Khmer people on the mountain.
Don't you worry, just come and invade Khmer and see how many more kapik legs will be lost, ah siem wannabe. Feel so sorry for your confusd identity. You need to see another pyscho.
Well, we can't just let Ah monkey in Cambodia continue to invade Khmer in the neighboring countries, can we?
3:10pm, u mean "a swa on the mountain?" If you're not Khmer, then u are a monkey. This monkey has been brain-washed by A-Siam and so someone needs to exterminate him and his disease infested generation. Put them all out of their misery!
hah.... Khmer Surin and Khmer Krom Cambodian considered as Ah Monkey?
How about khmer oversea? what do you consider them as? is this your new term of language?
Have you ever heard Ah donut makers, tomato pickers, losers, ..., or convicts?
Yes, I heard ah confused siem wannabe lop lop
Overseas and pro-American Khmers share the blame for Thai aggression. They expression objection to the Siams' actions but continue to contribute their tax money to pay for the F15's and modern weapons that the Siams are using to intimidate our people.
It's just like the Israeli-Palestinian situation. American tax dollars help fund the Jewish occupation and killing of Palestinians.
Khmer people need to realize that we are the Palestinians of this conflict. At least most Arabs side with Palestinians and against the Westerners. Khmer people from all over the world need to show the same unity.
Can you put your money where your mouth is? I don't think Lao Mong Hay, the KI-Media, Sichan Siv, Seng Theary, and Sam Rainsy can.
- Khmer Patriot, Ph.D.
All -
I only post as "Khmer Patriot, Ph.D.". Do not confuse me with any other individuals.
As for those of you who cursed me, I will not curse you back. I have told you that I will not stoop to your level.
I welcome civil and educated exchanges based on facts and reasoning.
It's apparent that the Ki-media team and Lao Mong Hay do not have the mental capacity to answer my challenges.
As for those of you who supported me and who nominated me to be KI-Media's resident intellectual, I accept.
- Khmer Patriot, Ph.D.
How can you expect donut makers, tomato pickers, or losers to answer to your challenges, 6:45? It's just impossible. They are trapped by westerner's rhetorics and lost touch with reality.
An imperfect world,all of us are imperfect.Every one of us has done some wrong.There are some things we regret in the past.Acknowledging our wrongdoing with a genuine sense of remorse can serve to keep us on the right track in life and encourage us to rectify our mistakes when possible and take action to correct things in the future. I believe this is the time Thailand need to look back to the past and change the presence will be peace in the future.( A leader to us is someone who takes us elsewhere)
A sad monkey on the mountain.
Khmer on the mountain =
"A MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY"
Sad,sad,sad,sad Ape.
ចុមយូរៗជេខ្មែរគ្នាឯងទោះវិញ មិនមែនទេជេថៃ អាសៀមអាចម៍គ្រី !កុំឈ្លោះគ្នាឯងអី នាំអាចោរសៀមអាចម៍គ្រី មើលងាយ !ហើយនរណាសសេរអីក៏វែងម៉្លេះ ?អត់មានពេលមើលទេ សសេរខ្លីៗបានហើយ
Yeah like I said Thai should watch their asses,I don't trust your pilots,thank operators,and gunners,they too busy materbate at each other...lady-boys... barking on bitches !
Khmer patriot phd I smell viet pretend to be Cambodian talk for Cambodian I prefer you cease your comment immediate,or the shit will hit the fan.There won't be any scientist in the world can mix Cambodian and youn to gather because the formula of the mixture it like the water and the gasoline .
Go home ah youn low live
The time is coming that: "Bankok rolum". Cambodia already went through these; "Phnom Penh roleay, Battambang chatchay, Sambay Angkor-Wat". Time is coming to Bankok.
Khmer patriot, Phd,
You seem to be forever trapped by the ghost of Dr Lao Mong Hay. Are you OK ? The real intellectual Dr Hay must have done something right to have caused permanent damage to your psyche. What Dr Hay done to you in order for you to hate him so much ? Causing damage to your brain ?
Dr Lao is a corrupted UN and Westerner's puppet who try to wipe out the Khmer culture and heritage.
You got it backward Viet slave 7:50 AM. It you Viet slave that destroy the Khmer culture everyday...
All Khmers in America will protest should the war break out between Cambodia and Thailand, becuase none of us aren't going to sit still and just let it happens. Thailand should also know that Khmer people in America are American and who are they trying to mess with?
and Abhisit had better be very very careful.
Out of topic, guys ...........
You're all still affected by 'separation sickness'. You said Thais are now being coloured. That's true but you should look at yourselves too... It might be worse.
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