Who was the boss: Pen Sovann (L) or Hun Sen (R)?24 Dec 08
By Sok Hean
Moneaksekar Khmer
Translated from Khmer by Anonymous
Former Prime Minister Pen Sovan responded to Prime Minister Hun Sen's attack on Monday 22 December when Hun Sen told the students during a graduation ceremony at the National Education Institute that he was higher in rank than a person who was his comrade in arms during the revolution, whom Hun Sen did not mention by name but who was known to most as being Pen Sovan, when the Cambodian forces supported by Vietnamese troops overthrew the Khmer Rouge regime on 7 January 1979.
Ex-Comrade Pen Sovan, currently vice president of the Human Rights Party in charge of Disciplinary Commission, talked at length about his role in the creation of the Kampuchean National United Front for National Salvation [KNUFNS] on 2 December 1978, now known as the Kampuchean National United Front for National Development, headed by Heng Samrin, currently chairman of the National Assembly.
Pen Sovan asserted, "I am certainly the Father of the 2 December anniversary." He went on to say, "Hun Sen is certainly one of my underlings at the start of the Khmer People's Republic regime, created following the fall of the Khmer Rouge regime."
In a cutting remark intended for Hun Sen Pen Sovan said, "History has already been written. Hun Sen should be ashamed because at that time he was merely a member of the Front movement in charge of youth affairs." Pen Sovan further said that it is because January is drawing near that Hun Sen wants to cover up the truth.
"I do not want to respond to a man who does not know his own Cambodian history, a man who is distorting history in this manner. If Hun Sen really has guts, I ask the national television to give me one hour to replay the 2 December and 7 January documents that I have preserved to these days. And I ask the Cambodian people to look at these documents on the screen and draw their own conclusion as to who was bigger than whom and who said what in these documents on 2 December 1978 and 7 January 1979. When they have seen the documents on TV all Cambodian people will know who was bigger than whom.
"Last Monday Hun Sen said that he was shown a tape recording of Pen Sovan's remarks broadcasted over Radio Beehive in which Pen Sovan was heard claiming that his status was bigger than Hun Sen's in the movement that overthrew the Khmer Rouge regime. Pen Sovan was prime minister in the 1980s and vice chairman of the KNUFNS founded on 2 December 1978, or 30 years ago, to topple the Democratic Kampuchea regime of the Khmer Rouge.
Prime Minister Hun Sen said, "In 1979 I was the big leader in the region east of the Mekong. However, a man claimed he was the Father of 2 December and 7 January and he even claimed that I was one of his minions.
"The man mentioned by Hun Sen was Pen Sovan and Pen Sovan at that time was in reality a second lieutenant in the Vietnamese army under Heng Samrin, who then was chairman of the Front and now chairman of the National Assembly.
Hun Sen said, "I want to send a message to him that he should behave properly. Please do not make too many lies. I do not want to show his name. You are lying to other people.
"Hun Sen went on to say that what Pen Sovan was correct in his speech was that "I was the one who arrested him right in his house. This is the only thing in his speech that was right.
"Hun Sen also affirmed that it is now too late for Pen Sovan to return to the Cambodian People's Party.
Appointed prime minister in May 1981 but arrested in December the same year on charges of treason against the communist regime and opposition to the presence of Vietnamese troops in Cambodia at that time, Pen Sovan was detained for 10 years in Hanoi without any trial. He was released from prison in Vietnam in 1991 following the signing of the Paris Peace Agreements by the Cambodian side on 23 October 1991.
Nonetheless, monitors of the political situation have predicted that Hun Sen would not allow the state television TVK to give Pen Sovan an hour of air time to show the documents concerning the 2 December and 7 January events. This is because if Hun Sen allows Pen Sovan to broadcast the documents that he claimed he had in his possession the Cambodian public could clearly know that between Hun Sen and Pen Sovan who the real boss was when the Vietnamese troops invaded Cambodia in early 1979.
Ex-Comrade Pen Sovan, currently vice president of the Human Rights Party in charge of Disciplinary Commission, talked at length about his role in the creation of the Kampuchean National United Front for National Salvation [KNUFNS] on 2 December 1978, now known as the Kampuchean National United Front for National Development, headed by Heng Samrin, currently chairman of the National Assembly.
Pen Sovan asserted, "I am certainly the Father of the 2 December anniversary." He went on to say, "Hun Sen is certainly one of my underlings at the start of the Khmer People's Republic regime, created following the fall of the Khmer Rouge regime."
In a cutting remark intended for Hun Sen Pen Sovan said, "History has already been written. Hun Sen should be ashamed because at that time he was merely a member of the Front movement in charge of youth affairs." Pen Sovan further said that it is because January is drawing near that Hun Sen wants to cover up the truth.
"I do not want to respond to a man who does not know his own Cambodian history, a man who is distorting history in this manner. If Hun Sen really has guts, I ask the national television to give me one hour to replay the 2 December and 7 January documents that I have preserved to these days. And I ask the Cambodian people to look at these documents on the screen and draw their own conclusion as to who was bigger than whom and who said what in these documents on 2 December 1978 and 7 January 1979. When they have seen the documents on TV all Cambodian people will know who was bigger than whom.
"Last Monday Hun Sen said that he was shown a tape recording of Pen Sovan's remarks broadcasted over Radio Beehive in which Pen Sovan was heard claiming that his status was bigger than Hun Sen's in the movement that overthrew the Khmer Rouge regime. Pen Sovan was prime minister in the 1980s and vice chairman of the KNUFNS founded on 2 December 1978, or 30 years ago, to topple the Democratic Kampuchea regime of the Khmer Rouge.
Prime Minister Hun Sen said, "In 1979 I was the big leader in the region east of the Mekong. However, a man claimed he was the Father of 2 December and 7 January and he even claimed that I was one of his minions.
"The man mentioned by Hun Sen was Pen Sovan and Pen Sovan at that time was in reality a second lieutenant in the Vietnamese army under Heng Samrin, who then was chairman of the Front and now chairman of the National Assembly.
Hun Sen said, "I want to send a message to him that he should behave properly. Please do not make too many lies. I do not want to show his name. You are lying to other people.
"Hun Sen went on to say that what Pen Sovan was correct in his speech was that "I was the one who arrested him right in his house. This is the only thing in his speech that was right.
"Hun Sen also affirmed that it is now too late for Pen Sovan to return to the Cambodian People's Party.
Appointed prime minister in May 1981 but arrested in December the same year on charges of treason against the communist regime and opposition to the presence of Vietnamese troops in Cambodia at that time, Pen Sovan was detained for 10 years in Hanoi without any trial. He was released from prison in Vietnam in 1991 following the signing of the Paris Peace Agreements by the Cambodian side on 23 October 1991.
Nonetheless, monitors of the political situation have predicted that Hun Sen would not allow the state television TVK to give Pen Sovan an hour of air time to show the documents concerning the 2 December and 7 January events. This is because if Hun Sen allows Pen Sovan to broadcast the documents that he claimed he had in his possession the Cambodian public could clearly know that between Hun Sen and Pen Sovan who the real boss was when the Vietnamese troops invaded Cambodia in early 1979.
32 comments:
In communism, yes both of them were the boss of everyone because they used gun to point to everyone to be their slaves. But in democracy system, none of them are the bosses. They are only boss of their ministers but they are both the servants of the people. Their income and entire lives relied on public moneys. It is very shame for each of them to claim boss to each other but in reality they were working for vietnamese Army. Areak Prey
No, wrong, wrong, wrong, Cambodia only have one boss. We are not like Ah Lowlife donut makers who have lot of bosses.
Most Cambodian ppl do not give a shit over who WAS better than whom before. I wonder if why these two dogs do not understand?
To be honest, I don't care who claims to be boss back then. However, if history serves me right, Pen Sovann at the time of the Vietnamese invasion and installation of the puppet government in Cambodia was number one in the power heirarchy, then came Heng Samrin, Chea Sim and Hun Sen. It was only after the arrest of Pen Sovann by the collaboration of the SRV & KPRP that Heng Samrin was elevated to power. Hun Sen didn't start to dominate until the mid 1980's when he started to climb the power heirarchy.
Anyway, I don't care. Let these communist turn-coats bark at each other.
Ah youn stil their boss.
Gentleman
Please bring on the one hour challenge on TVK, so that cambodians learn to know the truth about cambodian political history.Leave cambodians be the judge.And cambodians need to know for what had happenend.
neang SA
hun sen look more evil,and he need an anger management,he look not too friendly,and not educate enough to solve or love his own people,but for themselve he can not do anything to help.but he just act like he somebody,without power,he is nothing and i can kick his ass too
Why does ah kwak hun sen even care? Back then, he was simply an uneducated peasant boy that joined the Khmer Rouge in the eastern zone. He was one of many Khmer Rouge soldiers who failed in their attacks into Vietnam. As a result, Angka wanted to purge him and his group so he shit his pants due to fear and begged Hanoi for mercy and forgiveness. ah sen didn't care for his Khmer comrades, as long as he can save his ass and do whatever Hanoi wanted him to do.
These two idiots are x-khmer rouge,so they need to stand trial along with their boss for their crime against humanity.
No way jose, PM Hun Sen is our hero and our liberator. You Lowlife donut maker who destroyed Cambodia and causing 2 millions dead should stand trial.
..It is interesting to see Pen Sovan doing the dirty laundry of the CPP leaders. Pen Sovan is trying to say that while he was boss of the Vietnamese installed Cambodian government in 1979 he was a Khmer nationalist. He tried to get the Vietnamese troop out of Cambodia. To me Heng Samrin, Pen Sovann, Chea Sim, and Hun Sen all worked for the Vietnamese at that time, and they (except Pen Sovan) may still do at the present day.
If the debate gets hotter, pen Sovan will be killed by ah Hun Xen for real.
What are you talking about idiot 3:23pm ?.It was Yuon who did all the fighting and HUNSEN took all the credits.Hun sen was not hero nor liberator.He's a yuon puppet for sure.
I can smell ah pleu undersea again, "don't compare the donut maker to the num kang maker". They are legally make a living without fear of yuon.
But any way I am very proud of you that you can learn to use new word but I can still smell you.
Vannak
May be next year you will come up with new word. Please make us proud!!
Pol Pot really stuff you up , you still follow angkar to remember some important word such as, tuk min cham nenh, dork chenh min khart . Everyone heard this word without Angkar say it.
4.05PM, ah siam wannabe, pyscho
Angkar is Hun Xen, your viet cunt expert. I am so proud of your slave skill lke your tow boss Pen Sovan and Hun Xen. They are competing to say who was the boss of the viet boss. That is fucking funny.
The only diffrence was pen Sovan as a mature guy had some Khmer nationalism, whereas Hun Xen as a thug-thief temple boy was more hungry for power and he would do anythingto cooperate with the yuan master to obtain the PM position.
Be serious, 3:56, Yuon isn't stupid enough to pick a lazy arse and lowlife donut maker as their puppet, dude.
this ah pleu undersea born angry .
yOU`RE MY HEART YOU`RE MY SOUL.
We people khmer,we're very sorry that Communim have destroyed our country since 1970.
May Buddha Srey Aar Metey save all people in this planet.
What? What exactly did the commie did to Cambodia?
HUN SEN was definately the subordinate of Mr Pen. HUN SEN just don't want to accept past. That is a sign of weakness for a leader.
This two rubber stamps of Vietnamese product is due to expired soon.
Can't expect too much of a positive results when you have an uneducated Khmer Rouge peasant leading the country.
These idiots have nothing better to do then arguing about whose bigger then whom? Hmmm!
Regretably, we have Ah Khmer-Luongthik (3:23) who show's alot of satisfactory under this "bay loup, bay lar" leadership. Come up for some air, Oxygen is good for your brain and it's free.
3:56 You are stupid, or You don't undestand English. I said that all of the present CPP leaders, excluding off couse Pen Sovan, are still working for the Youn interest.
So what? Viet did us some favors before, and now we have to return the favors. What is wrong with that?
3:54 AM,
Ah yuon did us no favor. They only saw an opportunity to go into Cambodia and use the term "liberation" as a pretext to "occupation & colonization". It's always been a policy with the yuon since the early 20th century to form a united Indochina with ah yuon state as the leadership. Invading Cambodia was simply an opportunity to further advance their own version of a "manifest destiny" throughout Indochina.
Yeah, 3:54, only Viet slave like you would say thing like that. The rest of the Khmer people don't, got it Viet slave?
PEN SOVANN, ah samdech maha pleur HUN SEN, HENG SAMRIN, CHEA SIM, CHEA SOTH, CHAN SY....who gives a fuck about these commie yuon slaves whether or not who was boss when ah yuon installed them as puppets back in '79. They are just a bunch of bitches barking at each other. Nothing more. Just traitors to the Cambodian people and the Cambodian history.
If we can't trust our neighbors who can we trust, the French Nazi?
Don't listen to Ah lowlife donut makers! They are retarded.
Pen Sovann is just bitter about how ah HUN SEN treated him in the past as well as denying him membership into the CPP. As for HUN SEN, he's still a one-eyed motherfucker.
That's all you need to know about this whole situation between these two commies.
another case of power-hunger greed? don't even go there, it's not as popular anymore in cambodia as one may think. people are so sick and tired of political infighting nowadays and it's not even funny anymore! people want laws, not personal indifferences between who was better than who or whatever! leave that to the kickboxing ring! thank you.
1:55, stop calling yourself lowlife..cause your mother pussy is like Doughnut, and you enjoy eating it too...am i right?? and $$$ you spend also from your mother"doughnutpussy"...haha! your mother pussy taste like doughnut!!
8:20,
You can't even trust your own government, let alone the neighboring country.
In the US, a donut maker is still a job. Beats stealing and threatening other's for their hard earned money.
khmer people are so sick and tired of more politics, we need solutions, not more political headache!
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