Wednesday, February 11, 2009

Ambassador Julio A. Jeldres on Khmerization vs. Norbert Klein regarding Preah Vihear issues

The letter below from Ambassador Julio A. Jeldres was sent to Khmerization in response to exchanges between Khmerization vs. Norbert Klein regarding the Preah Vihear issue. I wish Ambassador Jeldres for his interests in the discussions - Khmerization
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Ambassador Julio A. Jeldres

Official Biographer of H.M. the King Father

Samdech Preah Upayuvareach Norodom Sihanouk

of Cambodia

9 February 2009

Dear Sir:

Thank you for drawing to my attention the exchange of views on Preah Vihear between yourself and Mr. Norbert Klein.

May I point out that for all intents and purposes the Joint Communiqué between Cambodia and Thailand of 18 June 2008 seems to have been conceived purely to comply with the requirements of World Heritage Listing. I am inclined to believe so for the following reasons:

  1. In all subsequent diplomatic notes between Cambodia and Thailand, as well as on their separate communications to other countries and the United Nations regarding Preah Vihear (and I think I have an almost complete set of these written communications), neither kingdom has mentioned the 18 June 2008 Joint Communiqué.
  2. The Thai Parliament never approved the Joint Communiqué of 18 June 2008 and the Thai Foreign Minister at the time –Mr Noppadon PATTANA, was forced to resign as Foreign Minister for having signed the Joint Communiqué. At the time, the Thai Democrat Party, then in opposition, was strongly opposed to the Thai Foreign Minister having signed the said document.
  3. Concerning the use of maps, both countries have used the maps their respective delegations used in presenting their countries’ cases to the International Court of Justice in 1962. Again, no mention has been made of the map annexed to the Joint Communiqué of 18 June 2008.


Lastly, as a matter of further interest and in view of recent Thai requests that the name of Preah Vihear be also described as Khao Phra Viharn in official documents of the two countries, may I point out that in previous written communications by Thai officials and diplomats, up to 17 October 2008, they had used the wording “Temple of Preah Vihear”, for instance in the notes to the President of the UN Security Council by Thai Permanent Representative to the UN, Ambassador Don Pramudwinai. I fail to understand why Thailand is now insisting on the use of “Khao Phra Viharn” in official documents when Preah Vihear is well known and has been accepted as the proper name for the temple by the international community for many years.

Yours sincerely,

(JULIO A. JELDRES)

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

The change of name has intention just to procrastinate the time!

Anonymous said...

Thai is running out of idea and Thai has no shame, they realy try hard to twist the history also their genital to gain anything.The name Preah Vihear must stay. Thai can save their stupid name for your king grave yard if you love that name.

Vannak

Anonymous said...

Thank you Ambassador Julio A. Jeldres for clarify this issue.

Preah Vihear is the name and built by Khmer.

The Siem didn't build anything, Khao Prah Viharn is just their dream. Loose once shy, Loose twice shame for the rest of Thai's generation forever.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter what court said what, or what map was used. Everything on the mountain belongs to Khmer on the mountain.

Anonymous said...

i know, mr. norbert klein seems to distort the real deal as it was only for the purpose of registering cambodia's preah vihear temple into UNESCO world heritage site and has nothing to do with whether it superceded the 1907 international treaty that produced the present international boundary line between cambodia and the then siam. an example of bias and distorted report by mr. norbert klein at the expense of cambodia. thanks ambassador julio a. jeldres for defending cambodia's stance in this regard. god bless.

Anonymous said...

given the siem did adopt or borrow a lot from our khmer heritage, the least they can do is to respect and honor and credit khmer civilization by using khmer names, language, culture, tradition, etc... it is when they (siem) tried to superimpose their fake, want-to-be khmer that we khmer people have problem with them. even they, themselves, had stated and acknowledged numerous times that they are very similar to khmer culture, tradition, identity, etc, then why are they so against using khmer's names and spelling so much? i'm sure we all know they (siem) have other bad intention on cambodia and our khmer people for sure! go figure! especially if they are so against using and crediting khmer for everything they borrowed and adopted from the great khmer civilization of angkor from which they gained their independence after the death of our great god-kings that ruled the huge khmer empire of the era (802 a.d. to 15th a.d.). in fact, we all know, too, that they once stole and annexed and invaded cambodia and took a lot of our lands and territories from us; still that doesn't give them the right to claim that cambodia belonged to them, areas like battambang, etc... because these areas were khmer's to begin with. what a shame for them to say such a thing when the fact was they invaded and stole from khmer in the first place. i'm glad cambodia had regained some of our ancestors' lands back, although, i'm sure there were a lot more they we lost to them.

Anonymous said...

Yes, thanks ambassador Jeldres for his defense of Khmer lands. Khmer name must be used to refer to the temple and the 1904-1907 treaty documents must be used for the resolution of the conflict. The 2008 joint communique referred to by Mr. Norbert Klein is not a treaty, therefore it cannot be valid for the purpose of border settlements.

Anonymous said...

Thanks to Ambassador Julio A. Jeldres for presenting the real fact. This is the Siem ambition of envasion.

Anonymous said...

Thank you H.N Am.Julio A.Jelder, you're such a key master helping Ah blind sight Bougee Siamese King ... to see what exactly is, before his day ending. Let him take all the Kao Prak Viharn name cover his grave. We understand deepely that, Siam is twist & turn, flip & flop in order to steal or to carpetting their disgraceful face, and now it's appear a new idear by opening a national park instead of withdrawing troops from Khmer soil. Khmer is watching, the new trick. They're now, hardly twisting an empty whisky bootle, don't forget to bring all the yellow shirts with you and your son Abha-shit Siamese GOV'T to burried beside you graveyard.
Down!!!Down!!! Siamese

Anonymous said...

I have only one short note to add regarding the raised issue. Thai was a new comer and entered the land of the Khmer Empire by persistant and unrelenting forces of swords and spears for many centuries. Khmer lost to the invader.

After gaining substantial land mass, by forces, from the Khmer the land subsequently got its "defensive" new name as a land of the Thai - Thailand.

It is quite clear to any mind of ordinary people that it is the unchanging nature of the Thai in the whole nest to dream and to gain more property from any weaker neighbor(s) with less capability to defend itself.

This unchanging nature of the Thai can be noticed up to this day, the modern age of human civilization, and it is no surprise to see the Thai unyielding greed pursuing after the Khmer heritage - the remnant of the Khmer Empire.

The one and only way to expose the Thai shame to the world is to wage a full scale war against the Thai nation, if it's all feasible, and destroy its kingdome once and for all.

Reasoning with the Thai in any dispute, lessons have been learnt, will not produce substantial understanding in their sense of knowing wrong from right.

It is likely than not that the Thai nation, and its wealth, is built atop the death of their conscience - a God given sense that only human specie can possess.

Simply put, the Thai does not recognize the definition of shame, for their eyes of conscience has been blind and inundated in the dark sea of greed.

I say, criminal is usually weak in every aspect of their strength regardless of their appearance.

Quariam

Anonymous said...

Quariam; you're righ all aspects, I support you 100%