One of only three remaining survivors of S21 pointing at a photo of himself taken with the other survivors shortly after the fall of the Khmer Rouge.
Wednesday, March 04, 2009Illawarra Mercury (Australia)
The former S21 prison in Cambodia's capital, Phnom Penh, where an estimated 20,000 victims were tortured before being killed, is one of the most confronting places I have ever experienced.
I don't know anywhere else in the world where the tools used to torture the victims and the steel beds to which they were chained remain on display exactly how they were found almost 30 years ago. The tortured bodies found in the rooms days after the Khmer Rouge were over thrown have been removed, but bloody photos of their discovery hang above the evidence as a chilling reminder of what was uncovered here.
S21 was a school before the Khmer Rouge turned it into a torture detention centre in 1975 and transformed the classrooms into tiny cells, which are still intact. The site, set in the middle of suburbia (you can see the gardens of neighbouring homes from the museum windows) is now a thorough, if not gruesome, museum.
I had spent a lot of time in Siem Reap learning about the ancient Angkor history and although I've been to the region where Pol Pot lived, ran the Khmer Rouge and died, it wasn't until I arrived in Phnom Penh that I began to really learn about Cambodia's recent history.
Wandering the museum was confronting. Nothing has been considered too shocking to keep on display. Rows and rows of photos of the victims, taken by the regime for their files, are exhibited, as well as photos of those who worked at the prison - out of fear that they would be killed if they did not oblige to the regime's request. I felt for those who were forced to rule over the prisoners.
Just as my tour came to an end, I was fortunate to recognise one of the three remaining survivors of this horrific place. I had seen his unforgettable face, with fluorescent blue eyes, in the documentary titled S21. Now he was standing in a museum room with photos of the history I am sure he would rather forget. He kindly agreed to let me take his photo.
A visit to the museum is generally combined with the nearby killing fields, which is what I did. It is just as confronting. The bones and skulls of thousands of victims, excavated from mass graves on the site, are displayed in a glass tower, despite some families' protests to the government. Teeth and ripped pieces of clothing still litter the site.
My guide said the Cambodian government defended the display of the skulls (none of which have been identified or handed over to allow families to bury their loved ones) by saying it wanted everyone to see the atrocities that occurred to prevent it from happening again. Yet, when I asked him how the students studying at the primary school next door felt about their close proximity to a mass grave site, he replied that they probably knew nothing about this period of history because it was not taught until university. It made no sense to me.
After a full-on day, I escaped to the beach-side city of Sihanoukville, on the south coast with three English girls I had made friends with at my hostal in Phnom Penh. Sihanoukville is very much like Thailand 20 years ago. It has many bars and restaurants along the beach, with relaxing arm chairs just metres from the lapping waves and barbeques cooking fresh seafood, but it is much quieter than places like Koh Samui or Phuket. Still, we managed to have so much fun that we stayed four days instead of the intended two. One of those days we joined a cruise and partied on a deserted island.
But eventually I pulled myself back into reality and returned to Phnom Penh for a final day. I managed to cram a great deal into my last afternoon in Phnom Penh. First on the list was the National Museum, which houses a great collection of artefacts, stone structures and antiques dating back thousands of years.
Across the road is the Royal Palace. Only a small percentage of the enclosure is open to the public and although it's grand in scale, I was disappointed. The much raved about Silver Pagoda, with 2000 silver tiles weighing 1.2kg each, barely created a shimmer and I struggled to catch any sparkle from the apparent 21-carat diamond in the middle of the head of a Buddha in the centre of the pagoda. The murals that decorate the surrounding walls are faded and scratched. Barely any royal items, such as beautiful gowns or elegant gold and silver cutlery, were on display, as I had seen in other royal palaces.
I left disappointed and went next door to the city's small children's hospital. I had read an advertisement calling for blood donors and being one back home, I decided to help out here to. It was interesting to chat to the nurse who took my blood, as he explained that there had been just 178 donors so far this year - a number Wollongong Blood Donor Centre would receive in a week. Following my good deed I decided to relax with a massage at Seeing Hands, where all of the masseurs are blind. I thought the program to train the blind in massage therapy and provide them with jobs was a fantastic idea.
To finish my last day in Cambodia, I enjoyed the country's most famous dish, fish amok, which is a coconut sauce similar to curry but very mild. I was sad to leave Cambodia, which has definitely earned a place in my heart. But after staying longer than my intended two weeks, it was time to head into Vietnam...
I don't know anywhere else in the world where the tools used to torture the victims and the steel beds to which they were chained remain on display exactly how they were found almost 30 years ago. The tortured bodies found in the rooms days after the Khmer Rouge were over thrown have been removed, but bloody photos of their discovery hang above the evidence as a chilling reminder of what was uncovered here.
S21 was a school before the Khmer Rouge turned it into a torture detention centre in 1975 and transformed the classrooms into tiny cells, which are still intact. The site, set in the middle of suburbia (you can see the gardens of neighbouring homes from the museum windows) is now a thorough, if not gruesome, museum.
I had spent a lot of time in Siem Reap learning about the ancient Angkor history and although I've been to the region where Pol Pot lived, ran the Khmer Rouge and died, it wasn't until I arrived in Phnom Penh that I began to really learn about Cambodia's recent history.
Wandering the museum was confronting. Nothing has been considered too shocking to keep on display. Rows and rows of photos of the victims, taken by the regime for their files, are exhibited, as well as photos of those who worked at the prison - out of fear that they would be killed if they did not oblige to the regime's request. I felt for those who were forced to rule over the prisoners.
Just as my tour came to an end, I was fortunate to recognise one of the three remaining survivors of this horrific place. I had seen his unforgettable face, with fluorescent blue eyes, in the documentary titled S21. Now he was standing in a museum room with photos of the history I am sure he would rather forget. He kindly agreed to let me take his photo.
A visit to the museum is generally combined with the nearby killing fields, which is what I did. It is just as confronting. The bones and skulls of thousands of victims, excavated from mass graves on the site, are displayed in a glass tower, despite some families' protests to the government. Teeth and ripped pieces of clothing still litter the site.
My guide said the Cambodian government defended the display of the skulls (none of which have been identified or handed over to allow families to bury their loved ones) by saying it wanted everyone to see the atrocities that occurred to prevent it from happening again. Yet, when I asked him how the students studying at the primary school next door felt about their close proximity to a mass grave site, he replied that they probably knew nothing about this period of history because it was not taught until university. It made no sense to me.
After a full-on day, I escaped to the beach-side city of Sihanoukville, on the south coast with three English girls I had made friends with at my hostal in Phnom Penh. Sihanoukville is very much like Thailand 20 years ago. It has many bars and restaurants along the beach, with relaxing arm chairs just metres from the lapping waves and barbeques cooking fresh seafood, but it is much quieter than places like Koh Samui or Phuket. Still, we managed to have so much fun that we stayed four days instead of the intended two. One of those days we joined a cruise and partied on a deserted island.
But eventually I pulled myself back into reality and returned to Phnom Penh for a final day. I managed to cram a great deal into my last afternoon in Phnom Penh. First on the list was the National Museum, which houses a great collection of artefacts, stone structures and antiques dating back thousands of years.
Across the road is the Royal Palace. Only a small percentage of the enclosure is open to the public and although it's grand in scale, I was disappointed. The much raved about Silver Pagoda, with 2000 silver tiles weighing 1.2kg each, barely created a shimmer and I struggled to catch any sparkle from the apparent 21-carat diamond in the middle of the head of a Buddha in the centre of the pagoda. The murals that decorate the surrounding walls are faded and scratched. Barely any royal items, such as beautiful gowns or elegant gold and silver cutlery, were on display, as I had seen in other royal palaces.
I left disappointed and went next door to the city's small children's hospital. I had read an advertisement calling for blood donors and being one back home, I decided to help out here to. It was interesting to chat to the nurse who took my blood, as he explained that there had been just 178 donors so far this year - a number Wollongong Blood Donor Centre would receive in a week. Following my good deed I decided to relax with a massage at Seeing Hands, where all of the masseurs are blind. I thought the program to train the blind in massage therapy and provide them with jobs was a fantastic idea.
To finish my last day in Cambodia, I enjoyed the country's most famous dish, fish amok, which is a coconut sauce similar to curry but very mild. I was sad to leave Cambodia, which has definitely earned a place in my heart. But after staying longer than my intended two weeks, it was time to head into Vietnam...
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Vietnam is behind of all the killing of khmer people...All koun khmer must read their history!
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VietCong burns khmer people alive!!
ALL khmer must read their history...Vietnam is behind of all the killing of khmer people!
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I like Khmer Krom people, but too many of them are retarded like you. The yuons helped khmer communist movement in the 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s, but when Pol Pot won the war, it was the Khmer like Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Son Sen, etc, that set up S-21 and others.
It is about time that Khmer people learn to separate fact from fiction. Not all killings in Cambodia were done by the Vietnamese, most during Pol Pot regime were done by the Khmer Rouge ( Khmer people). Many died as a result of peronsal revenge, hatred, indiscriminate killings at the lower levels, distrust of each others like what is going right now. The word Khmang was applied to anyone seen by the local cadres for having committed petty crimes like overleep when the work bell rang.
This social hatred phenomenon in Khmer society has been going on for many centuries and has not ceased. The only diiference is we don't have international force- communism- to egg us on and implode into a civil war.
I love Dr. Hun Sen's doctrine of peace: keep on donating Khmer's land to our brotherly neighbors - The Viet and the Thai and sell whatever we have left...
I love you, Dr. Hun. I am looking forward to meeting with you in person some day in the very near future just so I could thank you personally and also read your doctorate thesis on this doctrine of peace for Cambodia.
And please Dr. Hun, keep up with your good deeds, pretty soon you'll be a Nobel prize winner!!!
Now you have gone even more retarded, pat na pat ney. Look at how many Khmer krom who came to Phnom Penh proclaiming to work for Khmer Krom cause, but then ran to join Dr Hun ?
I have seen many Khmer Krom destroyed themselves faster than Khmer Kandal. If we are to salvage what is left, only Khmer people can do it, not any outside help would do.
Learn to separate the past from present, fiction from fact, yuon and Khmer.
Yes, Khmer commuinsm had come from yuon infleunce during its inception, but the actual killings during Pol Pot were done at the hands of the Khmer people. Did the yuons kill many in Lao, too ? After all, the yuons helped set up Pathet Laos, too.
Oh, I had seen some yuon soldiers were put to death at S-21, yep, yuons killed their own people, eh ? I had seen yuon people being trucked to their death in 1977, oh,yes, they were killed by their own yuon spies hiding in KR ranks.
So unreasonable that some still see ' all" killings were done by the yuons. I have no PhD thesis for you to read, only high school certificate.
According to Khmer krom theory, Hok Lundy was shipped to Hanoi and still alive and well. It was a fake body in the coffin, so and so, etcetera, ecettera.
The fact that Khmer aviation has been notoriously known for bad safety record is not considered.
Which high school in Hanoi 11:23 AM?
Dear 10:45 AM,
I absolutely agree with you!!! Very very very very good. Defeat bad by making good, defeat stinginess by giving!!!
Tell me when you go to see him, I would like you to pass my words to him too.
Thanks
Dear 10:45 AM,
I absolutely agree with you!!! Very very very very good. Defeat bad by making good, defeat stinginess by giving!!!
Tell me when you go to see him, I would like you to pass my words to him too.
Thanks
A high school in Cali. But I have no PhD from St Thomas Uni, MN, like one Khmer Krom PhD thesis I read.
I read the same books as you on Khmer-yuon issues, but I came up with different opinions and interpretations, sometimes the same.
I have many Khmer Krom freinds, one is my fostered uncle, but I always disagree with and correct him, for his own health reason.
I have formed my own opinion. And I don't believe a damn thing you said 11:49 AM. Please don't lose sleep over it. okay?
9;52AM.
You missed that the Communists Soviet, China and Viet helped Its own Communists to win, and Communists were going to defeat US anyway. Step 1 Communists won.
Step 2 Khmer Communists supported by China wanted to break away from Communist Vietnam that was a biggest problem. Vietnamese Communists already knew and prepared to battle and since they have been presence in Cambodia since French colonial ruled, the Vietnamese have more advantages than China.
The peasants lacking culture in Cambodia were already brainwashed by the Communist to kill the rich educated people with a vengeance. Those peasants like Hun Sen, Hun To, Hun Nim and all his clans were awarded by the Vietnamese to be the richest, most powerful and most brutal in Cambodia.
Laos did not resist The Vietnamese, but Khmer. The Vietnamese Communists were cleaver enough not to let the world knew the killing in Laos and in Vietnam, how many victims were killed by them, or how many KK were burned alive in Temples, only in Cambodia, and the bad guys are Khmer Communists alone themselves then the Vietnamese became a savior.
Now the Vietnamese Communists don't have to worry anymore, because the self-destructiveness of Khmers is they continue to blame each others and their unity can no longer be fixed.
One good Khmer Leader like Sam Rainsy is not enough while Khmers have the least educated and most brutal persons in power and abroad Khmers have old losers from old schools like Pritheacha Hin Sithan and his lunatics bow to fight Khmers to please his patron Vietnamese who claimed to be Khmer Krom.
We thought that he has some sort of education can be wiser than the most brutal people in cambodia, but he is the dumbest below the dumbest.
We need Khmer leaders not killers.
ya yaaa....weird that you blame Hin Sithan again. Khmer Krom are too narrow-minded and they think they are so smart, but they compete to join with the yuon and their puppets in Phnom Penh one after another. They use surnames given by the yuon proudly,they don't want to change their surnames to Khmer. Yet, they boast of loving Khmer so much.
Thach Ngoc Thach ? so weird a mame ! If you are so confused about your own identity, you will never liberate yourselves.
1.20PM,
Yes, Iagree yuons killed many Khmer Krom, and Khmer Kandal in history. Bu the question here is Pol Pot killings can be blamed on the yuons ? Where did you live during Pol Pot ? If you lived in Cambodia, who was your local Khmer Roge chief ? Was he yuon or Khmer ? My local chief was Khmer, he mastereminded many arrests and killings of the local villagers. This type of killings was rampant during pol Pot. Or you mean these local leaders took the order from Hanoi ?
No wonder Khmer society never improves because Khmer always blame outside forces 100%. I can take some truth in that, but not "all" as you and some Khmer suggested. It would be ludicrous.
You only give credit too much to the yuons.
I like to ask one question.
Were/are Pol Pot , Nuon Chea, Ieng Thirith, Duch, Him Huy, Ieng Sary (KK), Son Sen (KK), Hu Yuon, Hou Nim, Yun Yat, Khieu Samphan, Hun Sen, Heng Samrin, chea Sim and Ta Mok YUON ?
I see you did not realy read my post. 2:33/2;52pm.
FYI I am not KK.
Hi poster 2 33 PM & 2 52 PM.
The guy 1 20PM did not say those Khmer Rouge are youn, he said they were brainwashed.../
It'd be nice if you read all his comments before you reply.
Don't bother it dude 3:47PM. This person 2:33PM & 2:52PM is just bla bla. He didn't even read, you can see it that he did not read. Now we know why :)
How could people like Pol Pot have been brainwashed into killing their own people ? You made Khmer people like domesticated animals to do anything their masters want to to do. How mean and uneducated you are ! Time for an old man to start elementaire again.
Those local Khmer Rouge cadres were trained and brainwashed by the top leadership andtheir propaganda to hate and revenge their fellow Khmer people whom they perceived as their former oppressors. Those killers now live by side with their victims in the whole country.
You can gather all your brainwashed supporters to come and see me at 1960 Applegate Ave, Clovis, CA, 93611. Ask for So Narith.
Note, the lesson will be free of charge. But don't adopt Khmer Rouge behaviour here, only civil words, no violence.
Ong 7:17 PM,
You seem to come up with better reasoning than other posters. I don't believe you yet, dude, but at least you have given me some good idea to think about.
Yo yo Ong So narith at 4:17 PM,
Isn't that what it was staged for you to see, you dumb ass! Next you are going to believe in Santa Clause, right? What a dumb ass!
4:17PM.
Read my post at 1:20PM very careful again before you go on bragging about yourself.
You are from old school? I am the person who posted at 1:20PM.
Don't preach when you don't practice. Don't start curisng and name calling.
FYI I was a toddler in KR and I'm not KK.
If you want to have intellectual debate then copy and reply to each paragrah I wrote, like an example below. Since Khmers have a bad reputation with barbaric noise like you, you need to act NOT like one. And who cares what your name or what you do? You already showed your ignorance already and why bother to know everything when you don't? You did not read before you reply. All your replies were junks based on only your emotional not based on what I wrote. If you cannot understand English then read slowly before you reply to each paragraph.
My post below:
"You missed that the Communists Soviet, China and Viet helped Its own Communists to win, and Communists were going to defeat US anyway. Step 1 Communists won.
Step 2 Khmer Communists supported by China wanted to break away from Communist Vietnam that was a biggest problem. Vietnamese Communists already knew and prepared to battle and since they have been presence in Cambodia since French colonial ruled, the Vietnamese have more advantages than China.
---Your reply?
The peasants lacking culture in Cambodia were already brainwashed by the Communist to kill the rich educated people with a vengeance. Those peasants like Hun Sen, Hun To, Hun Nim and all his clans were awarded by the Vietnamese to be the richest, most powerful and most brutal in Cambodia.
----Your reply
Laos did not resist The Vietnamese, but Khmer. The Vietnamese Communists were cleaver enough not to let the world knew the killing in Laos and in Vietnam, how many victims were killed by them, or how many KK were burned alive in Temples, only in Cambodia, and the bad guys are Khmer Communists alone themselves then the Vietnamese became a savior.
---Your reply
Now the Vietnamese Communists don't have to worry anymore, because the self-destructiveness of Khmers is they continue to blame each others and their unity can no longer be fixed.
---Your reply
One good Khmer Leader like Sam Rainsy is not enough while Khmers have the least educated and most brutal persons in power and abroad Khmers have old losers from old schools like Pritheacha Hin Sithan and his lunatics bow to fight Khmers to please his patron Vietnamese who claimed to be Khmer Krom.
----Your reply
We thought that he has some sort of education can be wiser than the most brutal people in cambodia, but he is the dumbest below the dumbest.
We need Khmer leaders not killers.
1:20 PM
-----Your reply
Dude 12 42PM.
Don't waste time with these clueless people. That old fart may be the same as Ta Hin Sithan the former Khmer Rouge teacher. Don't try to change the old dog, my friend even you send this old fart a bunch of references from State Department he an't listen.
Give up with Khmers, they are the same dumbest Khmers. You only store more stress and headache, stop bothering it.
Wait I can answer to your comments if no body can.
You missed that the Communists Soviet, China and Viet helped Its own Communists to win, and Communists were going to defeat US anyway. Step 1 Communists won.
Step 2 Khmer Communists supported by China wanted to break away from Communist Vietnam that was a biggest problem. Vietnamese Communists already knew and prepared to battle and since they have been presence in Cambodia since French colonial ruled, the Vietnamese have more advantages than China.
--My reply. Vietnamese determined to take Cambodia & Loas and they succedded by the helps from Communist ideology.
The peasants lacking culture in Cambodia were already brainwashed by the Communist to kill the rich educated people with a vengeance. Those peasants like Hun Sen, Hun To, Hun Nim and all his clans were awarded by the Vietnamese to be the richest, most powerful and most brutal in Cambodia.
---Agree, Viet communists brainwashed the peasants to kill their own Khmers. Enuf said. They killed the educated and rich pple in the name of revenge. Then Pol Pot pple became paranoid.
Laos did not resist The Vietnamese, but Khmer. The Vietnamese Communists were cleaver enough not to let the world knew the killing in Laos and in Vietnam, how many victims were killed by them, or how many KK were burned alive in Temples, only in Cambodia, and the bad guys are Khmer Communists alone themselves then the Vietnamese became a savior.
---Agree. Khmers resisted then the show of killing progessed.
Now the Vietnamese Communists don't have to worry anymore, because the self-destructiveness of Khmers is they continue to blame each others and their unity can no longer be fixed.
--Agree. Viet silence invasion in Cambodia today through every fields. They choke Cambodians by the throats.
One good Khmer Leader like Sam Rainsy is not enough while Khmers have the least educated and most brutal persons in power and abroad Khmers have old losers from old schools like Pritheacha Hin Sithan and his lunatics bow to fight Khmers to please his patron Vietnamese who claimed to be Khmer Krom.
---The ignorant brutal thugs are in power won't allow another challenge. Too many Viet spies inside Cambodian clothes will kill Rainsy.
We thought that he has some sort of education can be wiser than the most brutal people in cambodia, but he is the dumbest below the dumbest.
We need Khmer leaders not killers.
1:20 PM
---Ta Hin Sithan sees himself a god, but little that he knows he too is working for the intesrest of Viets. He can be good leader for us new generation if he stops kissing his Viet patron azz.
See it's simple to debate.
So, So Narith residing at
1960 Applegate Ave, Clovis, CA, 93611. is a then-Tuk Tuk driver Ph.D from Hanoi?
Is that it? Step to the mic if you are so!
All your commentsmean the same thing, basically: Everything is yuon creation.
You are a bunch os loser again. How can you engineer your brain to see that Hin Sithan is a yuon tool ?
This is how Khmer society went to a near total destruction.
Anyway, no need to bring anything to my place. All drinks and foods will be catered for. My wife is a good cook.
Turn up on Sunday,from 12 PM. I have a big space in the backyard to accomodate many guests. Only Khmer people allowed in, no yuon or Thai.
Are you going to poison them all to death, So Narith?
Don't worry, any foods I serve I will eat first in front of you.
I like to have friendly chat with all Khmer. You don't need to talk about politics, anything will do.
Hmmmm....for some reason my educated instinct tells me that I can't trust you at all just as I can never ever trust the freaking Viet/Yuon! But don't worry Mr. So, you'll find better audience some day sometime in your life time providing you don't decide to prematurely leave this planet earth, okay? Good luck to you!
4:30AM,
You cannot carry intellectual discussion then admit it. Don't blame my post.
I'm the same poster 1:20PM and 12:42AM only and the rest are not mine. Be cool old man 4;30AM, you are not worth anyone times.
Om Pritheacha Hin Sithan 4:30AM. You tied to Ly Ngoc Dinh aka Ly Diep and Ly Diep is not Khmer Krom, he is Vietnamese. The news of Ly Ngoc Dinh aka Ly Diep is Vietnamese has been circulating all over the world from France first then the rest.
Ly Ngoc Dinh est devenue Ly Diep et est devenue Ly Anthony était un Civil d'ingénieur. Il a choisi d'être un journaliste de Khmer et il insulte notre Roi tous temps. Qui le paye pour vivre une vie décente s'il ne travaille pas ? Son épouse est aussi Vietnamienne.
T'es sur 11:51 AM?
Kampuchea ! Kampuchea !
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