Who's next?Top row: Hun Xen, Chea Xim, Heng Xamrin
2nd row: Meas Muth, Hor 5 Hong, Keat Chhon
Bottom row: King-Father Norodom Sihanouk
September 4, 2009
ABC Radio Australia
Cambodia's war crimes tribunal has indicates it might investigate another five or six senior Khmer Rouge leaders for their part in the genocide of the 1970s. Five top officials are currently being prosecuted and the trial for the first, Duch, the chief of the torture prison Tuol Sleng, or S-21 is underway.
Presenter: Liam Cochrane
Speaker: Michelle Staggs Kelsall, who monitors the Khmer Rouge tribunal for the Asian International Justice Initiative.
KELSALL: I think the short answer is that it's at the start of a longer process, although the international prosecutor has said in the media that he will go ahead with forwarding two introductory missions to the co-investigating judges, which basically will kick-start an investigation. So I think at least there is going to be the start of an investigation by the co-investigating judges. Now whether there is further dispute at that level as to whether the investigation should go forward is yet to be seen.
COCHRANE: And do you know who those two submissions are - who the people possibly to be investigated are?
KELSALL: No, in order to protect the fair trial rights of any new suspects, as well as the integrity of the investigations process, the names of those identified have not been publicly disclosed. There is some media speculation as to who they might be or at least what positions they might hold, with most people speculating that they would be senior government and military people, potentially people who have held positions in those states as late as 2006.
COCHRANE: Has the testimony of Duch, the first person to be tried, has he named anyone outside of the five defendants already on the list?
KELSALL: Oh, during the course of the proceedings, Duch certainly mentioned a number of people predominantly who worked under his authority at S-21 or who he reported to particularly Son Sen. The majority of people however he has named are currently deceased.
COCHRANE: Now, once these, let me ask you, once the list has been, the extra names have been put forward, who makes the final decision on whether they are prosecuted?
KELSALL: Well, the closing order which is tantamount to indictment in the civil law system is issued by the co-investigating judges, so it's really their determination ultimately that will decide whether to go ahead to prosecution. There are a number of issues that can be appealed by the prosecutor of course after that order is issued and prior to that point, any disputes between the national and international side have to be settled by a pre-trial chamber. But the short answer is it will be the co-investigating judges that issue the indictment.
COCHRANE: Just on that tension between the national and international sides of the trial. Is this development something of a compromise between the two views, one wanting to expand and at least one wanting to keep it to those five already named?
KELSALL: Well, I am not sure whether we would characterise it as a compromise at this stage, given the judgement issued by the pre-trial chamber clearly shows an ongoing disagreement between the national and international sides of the judges as to how this issue should be handled. It was clear from the decision that the Cambodian judges did not believe that there was grounds to continue with additional investigations and that their international colleagues disagreed with them. However, under the court's internal rules and the law, the investigation has to go forward if there is a disagreement at this stage. However, at the stage of determining whether the accused persons at that point are guilty or innocent. If there is any dispute and no resolution is reached, it will then mean an acquittal, so...
COCHRANE: Just finally and very briefly, this is a politically sensitive issue I understand. Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Sen has said that expanding the number of people on the list could destabilise Cambodia. Just how politically sensitive is it within the country?
KELSALL: It really depends on who you speak to on that issue. Obviously, Prime Minister Hun Sen has given statements to the media earlier this year saying that he believes it would cause further political unrest and possibly a return to conflict with former Khmer Rouge cadre. However, people I speak to on the ground say that they don't have any indication of this and they think that any real threat of that nature is completely unfounded.
Presenter: Liam Cochrane
Speaker: Michelle Staggs Kelsall, who monitors the Khmer Rouge tribunal for the Asian International Justice Initiative.
KELSALL: I think the short answer is that it's at the start of a longer process, although the international prosecutor has said in the media that he will go ahead with forwarding two introductory missions to the co-investigating judges, which basically will kick-start an investigation. So I think at least there is going to be the start of an investigation by the co-investigating judges. Now whether there is further dispute at that level as to whether the investigation should go forward is yet to be seen.
COCHRANE: And do you know who those two submissions are - who the people possibly to be investigated are?
KELSALL: No, in order to protect the fair trial rights of any new suspects, as well as the integrity of the investigations process, the names of those identified have not been publicly disclosed. There is some media speculation as to who they might be or at least what positions they might hold, with most people speculating that they would be senior government and military people, potentially people who have held positions in those states as late as 2006.
COCHRANE: Has the testimony of Duch, the first person to be tried, has he named anyone outside of the five defendants already on the list?
KELSALL: Oh, during the course of the proceedings, Duch certainly mentioned a number of people predominantly who worked under his authority at S-21 or who he reported to particularly Son Sen. The majority of people however he has named are currently deceased.
COCHRANE: Now, once these, let me ask you, once the list has been, the extra names have been put forward, who makes the final decision on whether they are prosecuted?
KELSALL: Well, the closing order which is tantamount to indictment in the civil law system is issued by the co-investigating judges, so it's really their determination ultimately that will decide whether to go ahead to prosecution. There are a number of issues that can be appealed by the prosecutor of course after that order is issued and prior to that point, any disputes between the national and international side have to be settled by a pre-trial chamber. But the short answer is it will be the co-investigating judges that issue the indictment.
COCHRANE: Just on that tension between the national and international sides of the trial. Is this development something of a compromise between the two views, one wanting to expand and at least one wanting to keep it to those five already named?
KELSALL: Well, I am not sure whether we would characterise it as a compromise at this stage, given the judgement issued by the pre-trial chamber clearly shows an ongoing disagreement between the national and international sides of the judges as to how this issue should be handled. It was clear from the decision that the Cambodian judges did not believe that there was grounds to continue with additional investigations and that their international colleagues disagreed with them. However, under the court's internal rules and the law, the investigation has to go forward if there is a disagreement at this stage. However, at the stage of determining whether the accused persons at that point are guilty or innocent. If there is any dispute and no resolution is reached, it will then mean an acquittal, so...
COCHRANE: Just finally and very briefly, this is a politically sensitive issue I understand. Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Sen has said that expanding the number of people on the list could destabilise Cambodia. Just how politically sensitive is it within the country?
KELSALL: It really depends on who you speak to on that issue. Obviously, Prime Minister Hun Sen has given statements to the media earlier this year saying that he believes it would cause further political unrest and possibly a return to conflict with former Khmer Rouge cadre. However, people I speak to on the ground say that they don't have any indication of this and they think that any real threat of that nature is completely unfounded.
69 comments:
It would very interesting to see how China and Vietnam would react to this call.
King Father Sihanouk was with China and these members of the governmnet were with Vietnam.
Who will win? China or US?
and i know for sure that only Khmer will continue to suffer.
Not many real Khmers left 1:54PM.
China is slowly taking Vietnam, and Vietnam are running to west, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand. Not sure how the uS can help to sav Vietnam.
China keep building more dams and will control water in all SEA nations.
correction.
Not many real Khmers left 1:54PM.
China is slowly taking Vietnam, and Vietnam are running to west, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand. Not sure how the US can help to save Vietnam.
China keeps building more dams and will control water in all SEA nations.
fuck
we don't need another civil war
do you really want to have another civil
do you want us to kill each other and destroy the country again
you drag the process too far, you create an atmosphere of chaos and will lead to war, and we will kill and destroy the whole fucking country
is this what you want
go ahead drag more witnesses, or what have you, then you'll know what will have happen
warning: civil war is on the horizon, and what beyond the horizon is devastation and suffering
Dude 2:08PM.
It won't be any civil war.
The UN backed by the US to have this KRT. The US wants to put China in a bad spot for causing 1.7million Cambodians died; and to isolate SEA nations from China.
Every time the super powerful nations fight small countries will suffer and die.
Now that China controls the water, this KRT is becoming aggressive.
Some accused King Sihanouk of running to China, but the fact was China invited him to Beijing for reason to check up.
Do you know Vietnam lacks of river water? Because China built many Dams on the top of Red River. Now you see why this KRT is becoming too aggressive.
every bodies see sihaknuk as khmer rouge? look at the pict. I do not know why some idiots came out that sihaknuk came clean hahahah ???
Yes, Hun Sen was once a commander for the khmer rough, but he defected from them when he found out what the khmer rough wanted to do to the people, he had no parts in the killing of Cambodians people. If you want to put Hun Sen on trials, you should put most Cambodians who borned before 1975 on trial together, becuase most Cambodians who borned before 1975 supported the khmer rough,event the Lon Nol armies supported the khmer rough at that time, becuase at that time everywhere the khmer rough came to attacked the Lon Nol armies just laid down their weapons and let the khmer rough took over. Yes, most of us was victims of the khmer rough, but most of us were supporters of the khmer rough and Hun Sen was in the same boat.
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3:32 PM,
Correction.
Hun Sen DID NOT defected from the Khmer Rouge because "he found out what the Khmer Rouge wanted to do to the people, he had no parts in the killing of Cambodians people."
Hun Sen and many Khmer Rouge military battalions within the Eastern Zone constituency comprised of former Indochina Communist Party members who were trained in Hanoi during 1940s, 50's and 60s. They were not the communists of Pol Pot and the other Cambodian students who studied in Paris.
Also, the Eastern Zone Khmer Rouge failed in their raids east of the border into Vietnam. The main Angka (consisting of Pol Pot, Ieng Sary, etc.) realized those Khmer Rouge in the Eastern Zone were inefficient in following orders and some of them already struck deals with Hanoi even before 1975.
The main Khmer Rouge under Angka's leadership had conflicts of interests with the Eastern Zone Khmer Rouge who's leadership were Hanoi trained. As a result, Angka wanted to purge the Eastern Zone groups. The Eastern Zone, upon hearing of this, got scared, shit their pants and ran away into Vietnam to save their own asses. It just happened that Vietnam found an opportunity to invade Cambodia ("liberating" as a pretext) and use the Eastern Zone Khmer Rouge as newly installed puppets of Hanoi.
So yeah, Hun Sen didn't care about the Cambodian people being tortured, starved and executed. He simply only wanted to save his own ass.
During Pol Pot regime costed more 2 Millions life of Cambodian. I have heard more than 6000 chinesse experts working there at the time, exp. I saw myself 1977 in Kampong Chhnang (new airport). In the research wheher China has involed indirect with this issue, the answer NO. If during Pol Pot regime worked more than 6000 experts like China at the time, then the world say USA has involved with this case. That is unfair, but if USA presented at that the Killing fields in Cambodia will be never happed.
Khmer
I am totaly agree with 4:22
Hun Sen also killed a lots of Khmer during K5 do not forget that.
http://www.ngoforum.org.kh/Documents/Hun_Sen_RF/Cambodia%27s_Dictator.htm
All those guy shoul be in trail too, they all former KR include Sihanouk.
Cambodia isn't clean until it cleans out all the bad guys. In this case, does China deserves to be honored as clean guy or Nation? When in fact she has bloody hands on 2 millions Cambodian lives? Vietnam must also justify herself once again as to why she was getting involved with Cambodia in the first place? Especially from January 1979 until present.
We know that United States has nothing to do with Cambodia between April 17th. 1975 and January 7th of 1979. Cann't help , but seeing # 1 and # 7 looking as they are true identical devils. In fact it was all about Mr. Ching Chungs that played the biggest part in turning Cambodia into hell on this Earth during those time. Where is justice?
ah Hun Sen is equally guilty as the others, including ex-King.
A few guys here are trying to make fairy tales about ah Hun Sen. The evil deeds that ah Hun Sen has done is more obviously evident than a few of you can cover up, fools!
One can easilly tell how brutal ah Hun Sen was by that time when he was the law; I mean, there was no international human rights observers as it does now, yet ah Hun Sen shows his full-range absolutism.
More former khmer rouge leaders should be brought to the KR tribunal. We will see who's going to cry wolf this time.The UN is yet to name those ex kr leaders whom they will summon to trial
9:19 PM,
It is getting there. Don't be so fussed. It will take time to clean up the KR of Viet faction and the new KR of Chinese faction. Cambodia will pretty soon clean all the real Khmer faces and new faces are going to replacee the.
Our next Prime Minister of Cambodia who is merely genius in doing business is our future PM Sok Kong. We have already prepared the election to make sure he will win.
correct' to 10;43Pm.
replacee them.
You want to switch it from a crook to a worse crook?
ah tituy 10:43pm keep doing what you do best: serving your viet boss and dont fake yourself to be a khmer.
10;47pm.
Cambodia needs new faces to lead, because the real Khmers are too busy killing each others.
New people, new faces have better ideas.
10:47pm.
If you and your clowns believe that after the real Khmers retire, there will be real Khmers in your group are going to lead Cambodia, you are dreaming. Every position like Ambassadors are slowly take over by the new faces, very well trained and well organized who speak fluently Khmers and knew the culture more than real Khmers do.
They are shipped from Vietnam.
Don't believe me, keep watching and barking online.
The UN tribunal is doing a good job and go for the right direction. They need to summon the CPP leaderships including Hun Zen, Chea Zim, Heng Zam Rin, Hor 5 Hong, Keat Chorn, Sihanouk, Sor Kheng, and Sok An to stand trial.
Don't cry out loud about civil war that Hun Zen tries to scare the UN. He doesn't know the US can take him out any time like the history shown such as Marcos, Bosnia leaders, Sadam Hun Zen of Iraq and Kampuchea.
3:32PM
The majority were born before 1975 didn't support Khmer rouge; only a few who went to French and poor peasants supports the KR at that time. I lived in the city and born before that period are not supporting any KR regime. May be you're one of them.
About China keeps building the dams across Mekong river. The world will be go to war with one another about water shortage problem. As Turkey tries to contain water for themself, the nations like Iraq and Syria are not happy with Turkey. I guess the future war will be about fresh drinking water.
3:31pm.
They are not idiots but you are yes. Keep laughing, my little midget.
10:58 PM,
You lied. The majority people at the country side and in PP supported KR. They supported the Socialism ideology, because of the poverty.
About the civil war, it could hapen or couln't happen; it depends.
The UN is nothing too great, it has failed its duties for numerous times.
It is not about the Dams on Mekong river that your Vietnamese are worried it is the Dams on Red River that your Vietnamese suffer more.
You son of bitch focus on eliminating Khmers while the Vietnamese keep nominating their own people for high positions?
4:22 PM,
Hun Sen broke away from Pol Pot not because he saw Pol Pot as evil or because of his guilt for collaborating with Pol Pot to kill his own people, but to save his skin since he knew Pol Pot was looking at eliminating him as well.
To me, Hun Sen was as guilty as Pol Pot. Pol Pot gave the orders and Hun Sen was the executioner.
As such he should stand trial as did the five KR officials who are in custody now.
Sok Kong who has collected all tourism money is your next PM, and according to your very brilliant thinking he is good to lead Cambodia?
...and how much does he split it to you so you can start to brag about him now?
11:13 PM,
I see the situations in Cambodia, and it is going to that direction.
A few old real Khmers with high positions were ordered to new and luxury offices in PP. They were told to take vacations and return to work when they come back.
When they returned from their vacations, they were ordered to retire. Now those new offices are occupied by new faces who speak fluently Khmers and they are young people. That's the facts, and stop fooling yourself, just keep watching. Don't argue with stupid things, I only shared what I knew about.
11:13pm,
I read somewhere some1 replied similar to your comments.
How do you know all of these stuffs? Are you Vietnamese? Just wonder.
It is important for rights groups and the world community to stand firm in regard to the KRT and not to cave in to repeated threat of renewed 'civil war'. Firstly, that we are hearing of the threat at all is indicative of the pressure the trail is bringing to bear upon the PP regime (or at least some elements within it), and secondly; in the event the regime opts to carry out the threat, the world and history will cast appropriate judgement based upon the regime's manifest contempt for the judicial prerogatives and obstraction of an independent court, in which case being forced to abandon what could be the trial of the century (in order to avoid a civil war) is preferable, in my view, to delivering half-hearted, half-baked verdict to the Cambodian people.
Despite demonstrated willingness to adapt to social-economic realities, it is evident that the regime has not been inclined to open itself up politically sufficiently enough to integrate non-revolutionary elements into its own ranks, essentially, because of Vietnam's weariness over the re-emergence of Cambodian nationalism, particularly, one that is not aligned to her.
With this consideration and the practical need to fill the political-administrative vacuum created by the sudden collapse of the Pol Pot faction, Hanoi advised and approved the use of patronage-nepotistic recruitment drive by its own hand-picked Khmer communists such as Chea Sim, Hun Sen, and others who have since established personal fiefdoms for themselves. In this sense, it can be said the party views trust and discipline as paramount; over and above its professed Marxist-Leninist ideology which stresses a new fraternity among men and condemns inherently unjust reciprocal undercurrents of feudalism.
It might be wise for the Tribunal to keep the 'Suspects File' open while engaging increased international support aimed at getting the regime to release major suspects for questioning. In any case, if their past is as clean as they claim, suspects should have nothing to fear before an independent tribunal. As for the threat of civil war, this could well materialise in the form of popular discontent given the regime's refusal to address interrelated issues such as the misuse of international aid, mounting economic crisis, leasing large tracts of primary forest to unethical commercial interest. . .
MP
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime had committed:
Tortures
Executions
Massacres
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Overwork to Death
Slavery
Rapes
Human Abuses
Assault and Battery
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime had committed:
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leader of the Free Trade Union
Attempted Assassinations on Chea Vichea and Sam Rainsy
Attempted Murders on Chea Vichea and Sam Rainsy
Executed members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders members and activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Killings
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
Human Rights Abuses
Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation
Illegally use of remote detonation on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and others military official on board.
Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Remove Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country
Oppression
Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Veitnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
Abuse of Power
Abuse the Laws
Abuse the National Election Committee
Abuse the National Assembly
Violate the Laws
Violate the Constitution
Violate the Paris Accords
Impunity
Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leader of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.
Am I a Yuon? A Yuon is does not get along well with me. I cannot say all Yuons are my mortal enemies because right now I am, only Khmer, living in an apartment building where there are some Yuons and Chinese who speak no Khmer. If you want to know if I'm Khmer or Yuon, you go the blog about tattoos. You'll see my comment about the powerless tattoos. I gave one event about Peam Chhok battlefield where I was engaged in fighting with Yuon Vietcons. And 9:37 PM on this blog is mine too.
correction: a Yuon does no...
UNDER AGE CHILD SEX
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime had committed under age child sex.
Svay Sitha is a senior government official from Cambodian People's Party.
Svay Sitha had a sexual relationship with Tat Marina, she was only 16 years old.
Source: Human Rights Watch
ACID ATTACK ON TAT MARINA
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime had committed acid attack.
"On December 5, 1999, Tat Marina, age 16, was severely disfigured in an acid attack in Phnom Penh. The attack was allegedly committed by Khun Sophal, the wife of a senior government official, Svay Sitha, because she was angry her husband had a sexual relationship with Tat Marina. Neither Khun Sophal nor those suspected of being her accomplices in the attack were brought to justice. Intense media publicity compelled the Phnom Penh Municipal Court to issue an arrest warrant for Khun Sophal for attempted murder, but the police claimed that they could not locate her, although journalists reported that she was living at home as usual."
Source: Human Rights Watch
TORTURE AND MURDER ON PRAK SITHA WHILE IN CUSTODY BY MISNISTRY OF INTERIOR OFFICIAL
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime had committed torture and murder.
"On the night of January 16, 2003, a street youth named Prak Sitha was beaten to death at the Ministry of Interior (MOI) headquarters after he was arrested and detained by off-duty MOI officers on suspicion of theft. His body - bearing numerous injuries to the head, torso, arms, and legs - was dumped at a Phnom Penh pagoda the following morning by ministry officers, in violation of police regulations regarding deaths in custody. No criminal charges were filed in connection with this death. In December 2004, the case was cited by the UN secretary-general's special representative for human rights in Cambodia - who stated that Prak Sitha died at the ministry "following beatings by a known police officer" - as an example of a "consistent and continuing pattern of impunity" in Cambodia."
Source: Human Rights Watch
PUT SAMPHORS WAS SHOT DEAD BY MEAN SOKCHEA, A RCAF MAJOR WORKING IN BRIGADE 70.
Hun Sen's personal Bodyguards Unit (Brigade 70) is a terrorist organization.
Hing Bunheang is a March 30, 1997 Grenade Attack suspect identified by the FBI.
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime had committed murder, again.
"On September 4, 2008, Mean Sokchea, a RCAF major working in Brigade 70, shot dead 21-year-old waitress Put Samphors at a restaurant in Kandal province. Mean Sokchea, in a drunken stupor, fired his gun and apparently mistakenly hit Put Samphors in the stomach. She was taken to a hospital but later died of her wounds. Mean Sokchea was detained by the police overnight but was then released, allegedly after intervention by Hing Bun Heang. Put Samphor's family received US$2,700 from Mean Sokchea, and the police told them that their daughter was shot while authorities were chasing robbers."
Source: Human Rights Watch
Where was the UN? Where was the World compassion? Where was God? Where are you when we need you during the Khmer Rouse regime? I was there and watched the innocent Cambodians dying. I had only the questions without answers. How come the UN, US just show after the Vietnamese invaded and liberated the Cambodians from the bloody hand of Khmer Rouge?? Until now I still can not get the right answer!!!
11:47pm THAT MAY BE THE FAULT OF THE FREE WORLD AND THEY SHOULD NOT LET IT HAPPEN EVER NEVER AGAIN! ANY WHERE!!!!!
11;47pm.
Khmers are so divided.
They are aggressively fighting with each others until no Khmers left. This fighting benefits the Vietnamese whose strategies are superb, finally they destroyed the WILL of Khmers after ~500 years they studied about Khmers' mentalities.
Majority supported the Royal government, but some mostly outside Cambodia are anti-the Royal Government.
The anti-royal Government want to put China and Vietnam's factions on trial.
They are convinced to believe through pictures and superb Vietnamese' propagandas that the leaders who struggled to free Cambodia from the quiet invasion by the Vietnamese for about 500 years are the real killers of Khmer people.
No GOD no Buddhas can save Khmers, but Cambodia can be saved.
The land of Cambodia will always be saved just that the Khmers will soon disappear. The land of Cambodia will be given to new people, new Cambodians (Not Khmers) and they will be the rightful owner of Cambodia.
I feel the same as you do, but I now fianlly realize that my people Khmers, many, are too evils no matter what.
Prime Minsiter Hun Sen should restore the positions of Madam Mu Sochua and settle the fight between Khmers. No Khmers will win but the Vietnamese.
Now you laught!!!! motherfuckers!
11:47,
I can answer that.
I saw a footage of President R. Nixon offered the stupid king, if he wanted the US to intervene.
The stupid king blatantly said "no."
He was in China at the time of this conversation.
This is in the midst of the Killing Field.
12:12PM,
No, it was the fault of Khmers themselves. After all they were Khmers who killed Khmers. U.N. or foreigners are careless if we, Khmers, determine to kill each other. However, if Khmers killed foreigners is another story. After all, if khmers don't help khmers who would?
1;38am.
Cut and pasted to make your tiny point, how would you be not stupid yourself? A blabbermouth is so arrogant for not knowing he is just another stupidest creature.
This is a Shrimp Soup. We must trial these people include HUN SEN...
Whichever side will win in a political struggle in Cambodia and in a political try to free Cambodia from the Vietnamese who have been presence in Cambodia for 5th century, the Vietnamese have already made themselves Cambodians and they are in Cambodia to stay. So the evil ones are Khmer Rouge and any body that replace them are better.
Farewell to my Khmers
1:56am,
You under estimate people.
1:50 AM,
CUT AND PASTE THIS.....BITCH!
LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD.
THE TRUTH HURT, DOESN'T IT?
If one wants to know exactly who provoked Khmer to kill each other, one just bring in ex-King and hang him head down and once in a while submerge him in the water, he will tell you everything; especially he'll tell who was it that provoked Khmer to bite eacher? It ws him!
Bitch 2:56am,
And what is the truth?
You are so fucking Youn. mi.ah Youn 3;27am. Throw you fucking family into the lake and let crocodiles eat 'em all.
Cambodia's war crimes tribunal has indicates it might investigate another five or six senior Khmer Rouge leaders for their part in the genocide of the 1970s. Such as
Rouge leaders: Sihanouk, Hun sen, Chea sim, Heng samrin, Hor 5 Hong, Keat Chhon.
3;36Am.
Keep your dream alive, you fucking losers. If you fucking losers believe that hangning Khmers for Youn will satisfy your azz,
here is a message from China "China will help Cambodia, so beat it ah.me Youn."
for common 2:08PM, you think you can do the civilwar? i don't think so Hun Sen head is so easy for west european if they really want it, they have all mordern technology with everythings. look at Sadam Husen they just go in to the country then pick Hun
Sen head out from the ignorant crow of your that it, nothing else i can say.
There will be no civil war. You will see the deal between China and US. Only these 2 powerful nations can decide about this KRT's fate. Just enjoy along with it.
12:22 AM,
You lament that "Khmers are so divided". It is so bitter that you feel ashamed to be Khmer because of what happened. You even wish Khmers to disappear and be replaced with non-khmers. Are you really Khmer to begin with? Are you that fatalistic? Do you see gloom and doom all the times? Listen, don't be....
As a matter of fact, Khmers are even more united than ever despite of what you see in the media. Look at the Preah Vihear incidents, Khmers from all corners of the globe help and support the brethren here in Cambodia. You got to learn to look from both sides. Then you will understand. Khmers are not too evil. It is all in your head. Give a little, take a little. Go and do some soma tic. You'll feel and see better afterward.
654am.
I think it is one choice, why do you blame him for not wanting to be Khmer? If I were Khmer I won't want to be either. I don't mean to look down on Khmers, but there is nothing good to be Khmer. I am happy that I am Cambodian, and Cambodians are smarter, prettier than the Khmers.
Just state the facts.
7:05 AM,
It is not just me but everybody in the world knows that Khmer and Cambodian are one and the same. It is just one "Khmer" is what we use to call ourselves. While "Cambodian" is generally used by foreign persons and in international and formal communications. What community college do you go to? Or you never finished high school at all. What you are saying and doing here is to start a racist war and cast among Khmers base on skin complexion. Who are you trying to emulate, whites, Chinese, Koreans, Viets, Thais? This was one of the causes the Khmer Rouge started their movement. Do you want to start a second Pol Pot? I can guarantee you and your parents that you all will die before you have a chance to dislike it. It was that brutal. So you are zipping around in that little car that momma bought you and lugging that dime for a dozen laptop, you begin to think you are something. You are nothing. Lastly, what kind of skin complexion do you think I have? Crying about divided Khmers, you are the one that are doing the dividing. You are one dumb fuck.
3:35AM,
ah pleu krubjeat. We are telling you the truth, ah pleu cuss us, the pleu will sty pleu forever, ah pleu krubjeat. Open your ah pleu's mind to listen to the truth. I'll come back to fuck you more, ah pleu!!!!
correction:stay pleu
They're not losing their livelihood, They're losing their corrupt livelihood.
We made $1.00 a day just eat and die. We don't have any tv, karaoke, liquor, computer, internet, toy, bike, car, moto, laptop, running water and etc.
Our toilet would be digging dirt spot by spot for our poop around our shack. We worked sunrise till sunset and 7 a days a week to feed our whole family.
WORK, EAT, SLEEP, AND DIE..........
7:46 AM,
Look man. I am Cambodian and not Khmer. Cambodia is my country and I love my country. Cambodians are lighter skin people, smarter and hard working people, but Khmers are darker skin people and many are lazy just like you.
You shouldn't bad mouth about Cambodian people.
3:35 AM,
IS A RECALLED PROCUCT OF JAI YOUN.
You will pay for supporting Ah Huynh Sen regime.
Ah tulk thiap!
Dude 1242.
Youn hate King Sihanouk, but we Kaun Khmers many don't.
1:42 PM,
Then, you are Kaun Khmer lop.
We can't blame a peasant like you, because you don't know no better.
Thou weel grawbay thou, ah pler!
lighter-skin Cambodians are half Yuon- Khmer while dark skin Khmers are real Khmers forever. It's gooder if want do not differetiate.
What is this fool 10:39 am talking about? He and 7:05 am are the same dude. He is one delusional dumb fuck just like someone called him up. A lot of people here are much smarter than this self-proclaim moron. He has been living in his rat hole and hanging around other same rats too long. Obvious his parents are the same rats. That's why becomes like this. Unity is the key for Cambodia. But no this rat wants to tear it apart.
Please don't pay attention to fool and continue on with the tribunal discussion.
Another Khmer/Cambodian
don't worry, nobody can live forever on this planet. sooner or later, smart, young generation of khmer will replace them all. just be patient. enjoy it while they are living. remember, there are more to cambodia than you and i, really! think about it!
Killing field in Cambodia was the hanoi's plan to change Cambodia to a Indochina confederation.hanoi secretly sent well trained viet speaking Cambodian working in Cambodia in every regime to topple the ruling government regardless what the regime was.One of Pol Pot's top adviser was vietnam secret agent named Son Sen and whose camouflaged himself as the minister of defense of Democratic of Cambodia.In 1998 son sen was Captured and got killed by pol pot.
In hun sen regime,Cambodia is totally controlling by hanoi via its secret agent whose they speak fluently Khmer language.
In Pol Pot regime there were around 600 Chinese expert working in Cambodia but with this fake government I heard there are more than 10,000 experts secret agents viet hiding behind hun sen.
hun sen he has head indeed but his head has no brain,he can not say or talk without hanoi secret agents permit.
12:43pm
If your theory were true, then it means that Pol Pot and his gangs who joined the communist party in France, then later in Vietnam, got played by the viet. History tells us that mr pol pot went to france as a student to study to be an engineer, but at some point he quit school and join the communist party in france. at around the same time, he went to vietnam to join communist group. he also traveled to communist china during that time. while i am not a historian, i believe there is some sort of connection between pol pot and the viet communist party in those days.
It was said that mr Son Sen and his whole family was murdered just a few weeks before pol pot's death in 1998? So why did pol pot kill mr son sen? If mr son sen is a viet communist, why did it take mr pol pot so long to realize that he himself got played by the viet? From my pointof view, i think mr pol pot decided to commit suicide in the end because he had realized that he got played by the viet and he didn't want to live to tell khmer people the story.
Where was the Human Right? Where were the UN and US? Where was the World compassion? Where was God? Where were you when we need you during the KR regime? I was there and watched the innocent Cambodian dying. I had only the questions without answers. How come the UN, US just show after the Vietnamese invaded and liberated the Cambodians from the bloody hand of Khmer Rouge?? Until now I still can not get the right answers!!
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