Saturday, November 07, 2009

POLITICS: Thai-Cambodia Diplomatic Row Bares Decades-Long Rift

By Marwaan Macan-Markar
"Bangkok’s educated people look down upon Cambodians as less educated and people that cannot be trusted and are unreliable" - Charnvit Kasetsri, historian at Bangkok’s Thammasat University
BANGKOK, Nov 7 (IPS) - Thailand’s swift and strong response to Cambodia’s decision to appoint ousted Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra as an economic adviser exposed an emotional faultline rooted in decades of mutual suspicion and hatred.

By the weekend, Bangkok had delivered its second blow to an already tense relationship between the two South-east Asian kingdoms. The Thai government announced it was revoking a memorandum of understanding between the two countries on developing an overlapping maritime area rich in oil and gas reserves in the Gulf of Thailand.

It was inevitable, said the Thai government, after Phnom Penh’s appointment of Thaksin, who was ousted in a 2006 military coup and lives in exile to evade a two-year jail term after being found guilty in a conflict of interest case. Thaksin’s new role in Cambodia "will directly affect negotiations" between the two countries, states the Thai foreign ministry, since Thaksin "was directly involved in the negotiation process" in 2001 when he was Thailand’s prime minister.

The tone for such a tough response by the government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva was set on Thursday. Bangkok withdrew its ambassador in Cambodia in protest against the Thaksin appointment. Phnom Penh reciprocated by Friday.

"We view the appointment of Thaksin as an interference in Thailand’s domestic affairs and disregard for Thailand’s judicial system," Thani Thongphakdi, Thai foreign ministry’s deputy spokesman, told IPS. "Our reaction has been commensurate with the action of Cambodia."

Thaksin’s appointment as the new economic advisor to Cambodia was announced Wednesday night on the country’s state television station. He was appointed by a royal decree as a "personal advisor to Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen and the adviser to the Cambodian government in charge of economy," a statement from Phnom Penh revealed.

Hun Sen’s choice of the fugitive former Thai premier, who became a billionaire telecommunications tycoon before he was elected as Thailand’s leader in 2001, is in keeping with a practice known in Cambodia for years— of the government and the royal family appointing foreign nationals to help them as advisors.

Prior to Thaksin, Hun Sen’s economic advisor was South Korea’s current president, Lee Myung-bak. The latter served in that advisory role from 2000 till 2007, resigning ahead of the 2008 presidential poll.

"Cambodia views the appointment of Mr. Thaksin as an internal affair. We have had economic advisors to our prime minister before, like the current president of South Korea from 2000 till 2007," said Koy Kuong, spokesman for the Cambodian foreign ministry. "The Thai government is trying to mix things up."

"It is up to the Thai side to clarify the status of our relationship," Koy added during a telephone interview from Phnom Penh. "Cambodia wants to have good relations with Thailand."

Hun Sen’s fiery rhetoric towards Thailand betrays such sentiments. He is on record saying that Phnom Penh would not extradite Thaksin if he moved to Cambodia. That followed a statement that Cambodia would offer Thaksin a new home.

The recent war of words between Cambodia and Thailand threatened to overshadow a summit of South-east Asian leaders held last month in a Thai resort town south of Bangkok. "Don’t allow anybody to use you as a pawn," Abhisit told the media in a comment targeted at Hun Sen.

The current tension between the two countries has grown since July last year over a 10th century Hindu temple, Preah Vihear, perched on top of a steep cliff on the Thai-Cambodian border.

The World Heritage Committee ruled that month that the Preah Vihear would be recognised as a world heritage site. It also recognised a 1962 ruling by the International Court of Justice that the temple was within Cambodian territory.

Thai nationalists responded with rage, prompting a troop build-up by both sides. In April this year the soldiers from both countries exchanged gunfire, leaving three people dead.

The relationship between the richer Thailand and the poorer Cambodia hit a low point in 2003, when the Thai embassy in Phnom Penh was burned down by rioters angered by a remark made by a Thai actress that allegedly questioned Cambodia’s ownership of another landmark temple. Thaksin was the Thai premier at the time.

"What we are witnessing is the love-hate relationship between the Thai and Cambodians. The problem has deep roots, going back to the Second World War period," said Charnvit Kasetsri, a historian at Bangkok’s Thammasat University. "Anti-French feelings that Thais had towards the French when they were colonial rulers of Cambodia were transferred to anti-Cambodian feelings after Cambodia got independence."

Thailand’s elites also fed this feeling in later years, Charnvit explained in an interview. "Bangkok’s educated people look down upon Cambodians as less educated and people that cannot be trusted and are unreliable."

The United States government’s war in Indo-China saw the two countries on either side of the battle lines. The Thai government, under a military dictatorship and a strong U.S. ally, was peeved at Cambodia’s neutral stance over the war during the 1960s.

Through the 1980s, after Cambodians were freed from the genocidal Khmer Rouge by the invading Vietnamese military, Thailand opened its eastern borders for the Khmer Rouge to survive. Bangkok, in fact, was the gateway for Khmer Rouge leaders to interact with the international community. Cambodia’s present attitude towards Thailand, on the other hand, reflects a trend that has evolved over the past 20 years.

"For years Thailand was an important investor in Cambodia and was always welcome, but now its predominant role has been replaced by China, Japan and others," said Punagthong Pawakapan, assistant professor in international relations at Bangkok’s Chulalongkorn University. "They do not have to depend on Thailand unlike before."

China, with over 3,000 companies and with investments valued at over 1.5 billion U.S. dollars, is the largest investor in Cambodia. South Korea follows, with 1.2 billion dollars in investment. And Japan, with over 1.2 billion U.S. dollars, has been Cambodia’s top donor since 1992.

Thailand’s investments are valued at 226 million U.S. dollars. Its major investments are in hotels and the agro-industry. China has poured money into large infrastructure projects while South Korea has invested in the information technology sector.

"Thailand’s relationship with its other neighbours like Burma, Laos and Malaysia do not compare with the relationship with Cambodia," Punagthong told IPS. "Disagreements do not result in the same kind of tension and trouble."

26 comments:

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Anonymous said...

True that................

Anonymous said...

No one looks down on Cambodians as much as Hun Sen. Evidence? The appointment of Thai fugitive over Cambodians as the country advisor.

If the Cambodians are so smart, why Hun Sen chose the fugitive? Hun Sen really knows how to humiliate himself and the people of Cambodia, don't you think?

Anonymous said...

Thais have superior complex toward its neighbours particularly Cambodians. I've met a Thai lady in Louisiana and had a chat with her. She told me that there some Cambodians doctors working in the hopital where she lives, and many of them are educated and sucessful. "Why are they sucessfull?" she asked me. "Do you think we (Cambodians) are stupid?", I replied. Not only educated thais in Bangkok looked down at Cambodian as less educated, but Thais across the globe think the same way. That's their mentality. Look, there are new generation Khmers living abroad are educated and have more open minded than those thais live in Bangkok.

Anonymous said...

2:12 AM

You are right on the 8 ball.

Anonymous said...

Ah lop 1:23

Shut your stinky mouth asshole. you know shit about politice. and dont make me look bad because of you.

Anonymous said...

ah pee sit looked at ah sen and in his mind he called ah sen ah sva kreh! unfinished 8th grade

Anonymous said...

2:24 AM
You should have told that Thai lady the truth. The reason that oversea Khmers are successful is because they are not pure Khmer blood, rather an American-Khmer, Mexican-Khmer, or XYZ-Khmer.

C'mon, it's just one case you found, don't generalize the case! Be open-minded. Some Khmers also make themselves to be looked down, for example the PM.Hun Sen.

Anonymous said...

Thailand will hurts their people more, if they decide to close border with cambodia, Khmer bought the most of Thais products these days....

Anonymous said...

2:24 AM,

Some Cambodians have brought this quandary upon themselves.....Speaking of which, Hun Sen as a PM of Cambodia proposed that the Cambodian King appointed a fugitive former Thai PM as his personal adviser as well as his econmic adviser. What does it construte as...? Khmers are not smart enough to hold such a position?......after I read the articles associate with Hun Sen's appoinment of former Thai PM. I am not astonished NOR AGAINST because of his appointment of foreigner. I am struck because of because of Hun Sen overlooked Cambodian people....and decided to appoint his Thai friend over Khmer citizen to such post.

For centuries, the Viet. and Thai have always thought of Khmer as inferior creatures (NOT AS HUMAN but creatures.) They are easy to take advange of....The Viet. has been torturing Khmers for centuries and now, Khmer leaders are helping the Viet. colonizing Khmer Nation....The blames will be on both, the Khmer leaders and ordinary Khmer citizen....! Why Kmer Empire has become today Cambodia because of the Khmer Kings, leaders, and ordinary Khmer citizen for lacking of in a civil involvement. Some Khmers in Cambodia, Khmers in Long Beach,Sacremento,San Jose, Stockton, LA, and MA. alike. Some of these Khmers are still living in a stone age so the speak; they don't know how to conduct themselves a civilized citizen....their children are in gangs committing crimes....and some were deported back to Cambodia....and have cried wolf about it....

I fully understand that they came from a violent nation but there are ways to stop violences....although Hun Sen and his gangs still are breeding violences in Cambodia. IT IS ALL ABOUT MOTIVATION AND DETERMINATION TO BETTER OURSELF AS HUMAN. BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN CAMBODIANS ARE DOING LIKE SO, ALL I HAVE SEEN THAT CAMBODIANS ARE BACK STABBING EACH OTHER, CHEWING EACH OTHER OUT, AND SALE OUT ON ANOTEHR BECAUSE OF GREED AND POLITICS. THERE IS NO CIVILIZED IN THIS REGARDS. That is the reason why, the Thai and Viet. think of Khmer as illiterated....!COME ON NOW, KHMER WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Anonymous said...

When a person looks down at another person, deep down inside, is when that person has that inferior feelings of him or herself "the feeling of low self esteem." When Thai people look down at Khmer people, because they know that Thais steal Khmer's culture, language, arts, architectures, temples etc...etc. and many more. So, in order to diffuse that inferior feelings of the Thais, they have to use reverse psychology by using propagandas like teaching wrong history to their students and by using medias through verbal or written to twist the truths hopefully the world would believe them. In return, the evil deeds they have been using against other neighboring counties especially Cambodia show who the FUCK the Thai people realy are: theives, thugs, uneducated, twisted, flip flop mother fucker after all.

Anonymous said...

Thailand is geographically perfect for economic growth and she could has been holding an Economic Power status in Southeast Asia. But because of her Barbaric, and bandit backgrounds tends to be more vicious toward neighbor nations... Therefore, the trade with neightbors are not flowed as they supposed to be....!INSTEAD, she choose to be an adversary with Burma, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, and Indonesia...etc...BECAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR THAILAND!

Anonymous said...

3:02 AM,

Funny! but true...! "SELF-ESTEEM" is the key word....in your comment!

Anonymous said...

"Bangkok’s educated people look down upon Cambodians as less educated and people that cannot be trusted and are unreliable" - Charnvit Kasetsri, historian at Bangkok’s Thammasat University





FUCK YOUR BANGKOK UNIVERSITY....YOU GUYS ARE ALL FUCKING STUPID, MY SPEACIAL AID CLASS FULL OFF RETARDS IS SMARTER THEN YOUR AVERAGE SIEM.......STUPID FUCKS.......FUCK THAILAND....DONT EVER LOOK DOWN AT MY PEOPLE....BOW DOWN FUCKING SIEMS WE KHMER ARE YOUR MASTERS......FUCK THAILAND.....YOUR KING WILL FUCKING DIE....AND THEN I WILL RUN THAILAND...I WILL NAME IT SHIT LAND THE LAND OF 2GIRLS 1 CUP...FUCKING BITCHES

Anonymous said...

2:12 AM

Your ideas can be goof or bad with the real thing.

In political, I think Hun, Xen idea is good.

Anonymous said...

Some people spent their whole life in school but still dumb! Bill Gate Microsoft Chairman, don't even finish School, he's smart....PM Hun Sen may be smarter than Thai PM Abhishitty head....

Anonymous said...

Chess dop = Pro Sobb moi!

Anonymous said...

Basically, the land of Tai has problems with all their neighbors. They are not a peace lover. They are the region aggressor. If you are weak, surely Thailand will exploit you and treats you like subhuman. What kind of human race is that? The root cause of all the problems are in their reinvented history books. They teach their children to think very differently/look down/disdain of their neighbors. Peace and harmony will not reside among ignorance like this...

Anonymous said...

Be careful! Ah Thais, Cambodians this day are not like Cambodians in the 70's and 80's. If you are educated you should be smart enough to understand that. How your ancestors made you too stupid at this era. During the 60's you cannot say you are better than Cambodians either.

Now we are united and stable and you, Thais, are moving toward violence and may become worst. Your soldiers are the most human rights violated. All people from Burma, Laos and Cambodia hate your soldier attitude and your (untrue) superior attitude Thai people. You are not above us. You see your situation at the southern provinces at these days. Would you like to turn your bore to Cambodia, Laos and Burma to become like the south border. Do you know that you still thieves who stole/robbed these country land. Khmer Surin, Sisaket, Nakorn Rachima and Buriram and Laos in your Isan are evidences. Please double check with your ancestor's soul. Stupid Thais!

Anonymous said...

The educated Thais are selves egotistic, ignorant and racist! They are act like clowns. Pretencious at most time. They behave like someone who goes to school in the mall. If they go to school and they don't know right from wrong ,how do they call themselves educated? Just call ignorant to replace the word educated.

Anonymous said...

Mr hun sen is a shallow man to want to hire mr thaksin as an economic advisor to cambodia. we are seeing the ramification of mr thaksin's appointment being unfolded in the khmer kingdom and thailand. there will be no end to the political showdown between mr hunsen and mr abhisit as both men try to keep their head above water. Who will bear the burden of economic downturn, khmer people or mr hunsen, when both countries cut off trading from one another? Mr thaksin should never be appointed as an economic advisor in the first place. the guy has a track record of criminal history and has been sentenced in absentia to two years in prison by the thai royal court. Has the thai govt been unfair to mr thaksin, and was mr thaksin unfairly convicted by his own govt? Interestingly, mr hunsen govt sympathizes mr thaksin's plight and takes jabs at thai prime minister abhisit. Critics claim that mr thaksin was a victim of the 2006 coup which removed him from his priminister post. by comparision, the cpp critics seem to turn a blind eye on the 1997 coup which ousted prince rannaridth as 1st prime minister of cambodia at the time. One can say that prince rannaridth was a victim of the 1997 coup as well.

Anonymous said...

The Thais are a bunch of loonies ultra-nationalists...What is the matter with them??? It's true that Cambodia do not have economic experts, that's why Samdech Hun Sen imports foreign know-how like Lee Myung Bak and now Thaksin. The Thais are ingrateful bastards who owe so much to Cambodia for the past 800 years. They are imperialists who can not exert control beyond their borders...Instead of fostering fraternal friendship between our two peoples (Khmer-Thai) which share so much in common, they choose the wrong path to self-destruction and humiliation. In the eyes of the world, they are indeed a crazy disturbed people...

Anonymous said...

8;17am.

You may think Hun Sen is a shallow man, but admit it that this old boy is very cleaver politician. He hired only smart people from oversea such as Americans, Australians, French, and S. Korean, etc. He may be playing China's game. Who knows? Because Thaksin is China's favorite son.

Anonymous said...

yeah ah samdach ach ko is very clever thief after billion dollars pouring in to his account, Cambodia still a beggar nation after 30 years of his monkey leadership!

Anonymous said...

9:12 AM,
Just because Hun Sen can afford to hire famous people to be his advisors don't mean he is smart. No matter what temple boy is still a temple boy. Listen to his speech, observe his behavior, see his action and I can tell he is more like Khmer Rouge cadre than the Cambodian Prime minister.

Anonymous said...

The country traitor is demanded by hyena to divert chaos with thailand then the hyena move the border at the east but they get caught by Khmer farmers and H.E Sam Rainsy.
Please H.E well prepare this case to the U.N for helping Khmer farmers along the border and the Khmer Krom.
Thank you .. God bless you
PP.