Wednesday, November 25 2009
Oxford Analytica
Hun Sen owes his present position to Hanoi after Vietnam invaded Cambodia in 1979 to remove the Khmer Rouge regime. Cambodians may retain historical grievances against the Thais, but many of them hate and fear the Vietnamese.EVENT: The pro-Thaksin United Front for Democracy (UDD) 'red shirts' are planning a protest in Bangkok starting on November 28.
SIGNIFICANCE: Turnout could indicate whether former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's new relationship with Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen has affected adversely his domestic political stature. Bilateral tensions threaten economic relations, with Thai and Cambodian leaders risking economic harm in pursuit of domestic political advantage. Thaksin's move may mark the end of his political relevance, while Hun Sen's needless provocation of a powerful neighbour may signal that his own grip on power is waning.Go to conclusion
ANALYSIS: Relations between Thailand and Cambodia rarely have been equal. Historical enmities reaching back to the Khmer conquest of much of modern Thailand and Siamese 'reconquista', which laid the foundations of the nation state, invariably resonate at times of tensions between the neighbours. Thailand's economic strength and links with the West contrast sharply with Cambodia's decades-long experience of conflict, genocide, communism and poverty.
Current dispute. The origins of the current dispute lie in an International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruling in 1962 that the ancient Preah Vihear temple was largely within Cambodian territory. A point of contention for decades, the dispute re-emerged in early 2008 when Thailand's last directly elected government was being challenged by its opponents over UNESCO's listing of Preah Vihear as a UN World Heritage Site (see THAILAND/CAMBODIA: Causes of conflict set to persist - October 29, 2008). The decision by the pro-Thaksin Shinawatra government to downplay the issue offered its opponents an opportunity to undermine its standing among Thaksin's often highly nationalist supporters.
However, its removal in late 2008 and replacement by an unelected coalition administration closer to the conservative elite failed to dampen the issue. The populist People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) 'yellow shirts' have continued to emphasis the cause as means of projecting their own patriotic zeal while using the issue as leverage against Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's government.
The timing of the dispute also suited Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen as it coincided with the country's July 2008 general election. Although there was no doubt Hun Sen would win, anti-Thai sentiment helped secure an overwhelming majority (see CAMBODIA: Opposition quelled as oil drilling advances - August 26, 2009).
Drivers. The present phase of the dispute, with serious implications for bilateral relations and perhaps also regional stability, is sustained by several factors:
- Momentum. Once unleashed, nationalist emotions in Thailand and Cambodia are difficult and politically costly to defuse. While time may erode them, it takes little to reignite them.
- Expediency. There are few incentives at present for political groups in either country to lower the volume on the dispute. The Thai government will wish to ensure Thaksin's status as an 'adviser' to Hun Sen is emphasised regularly. A late October Abac opinion survey indicated that 25% supported Thaksin as prime minister against 21.6% for Abhisit. An Abac poll released in early November after Thaksin offered his support for Hun Sen indicated that Abhisit's popularity had risen to 68.6% from 23.3% in September.
- Miscalculation. Thaksin's decision to seek an alliance with Hun Sen may yet not prove a grave political error, but so far there are few advantages evident for him in the relationship. This view may be tested by the level of attendance and conduct of a planned protest by the pro-Thaksin United Front for Democracy (UDD) 'red shirts' in Bangkok starting on November 28 (see THAILAND: King's health stokes stability fears - October 15, 2009):
- High attendance would indicate that support for Thaksin -- or at least opposition to the conservative elite -- remains strong.
- Low attendance readily could be used by Thaksin's opponents to argue that his influence was waning and emphasise his 'unpatriotic' Cambodian connection.
- Tensions can be expected to rise ahead of the demonstration, not least because of a grenade attack against a PAD rally in Bangkok on November 15 that bore the hallmarks of a 'hidden hand' attempt to intimidate and warn against such challenges to state authority.
Resolution prospects. Full reconciliation between Thailand and Cambodia is unlikely, despite the efforts of ASEAN and individual regional states to broker a settlement. Such an outcome would risk the leadership being accused of compromising sovereignty or national dignity:
- There have already been costs, notably the Abhisit government's cancellation of a memorandum of understanding agreed in 2001 during Thaksin's premiership to develop jointly hydrocarbon reserves in the Gulf of Thailand.
- Although no work has been undertaken to verify claims that the offshore area contains large gas and oil reserves, the decision is seen by many Thais and outsiders as petulant and legally damaging rather than a reasoned response to Hun Sen's perceived provocations.
- Thailand and Cambodia are unevenly matched in conventional military terms. Thailand fields modern armour, artillery, air and naval assets against Cambodia's ageing and worn out Soviet-era and Chinese supplied weapon systems.
- However, Cambodia's guerrilla tradition and large pool of personnel with operational experience would extract a high cost from Thailand's technically superior but largely untested regular army.
- Any direct armed confrontation is unlikely to go any further than a repeat of skirmishes in 2008. Both countries' senior officers have also emphasised there is minimal tension along the land borders.
- The Thais could seek to signal their military capability and political displeasure at sea, where the Cambodians are notably weak
- If Thaksin's 'advisory' role is not resumed and Cambodia's seemingly arbitrary moves against Thai businesses in the country are reversed or abandoned, a working relationship can be restored quickly.
- Thaksin himself may well have reviewed his strategy regarding Cambodia and recognised he stands to gain few benefits while risking alienating many of his supporters.
CONCLUSION: In the absence of any serious incidents, such as an armed clash or riots that target Thai or Cambodian nationals, the dispute is likely to evolve into a sullen but functional relationship that has a minor impact on events and sentiments beyond the two countries. Foreign investment is unlikely to be adversely affected, and the joint development of natural resources will proceed once both countries are clear of the benefits such cooperation will bring them.
12 comments:
hey, the fact nowadays is that cambodia is not about siem nor youn scum bags, really. there are more to cambodia than you and i, really! wake up already, people!
Tai superiority in arms and technology seem unamtched to Cambodia.Given history, Yuon has superiroty in arms and man power but yet portion of resistance caused Yuon to think twice and leave Cambodia.
Siam won wars and took over Cambodia land in the past but Cambodia may not let that happen again.Plus Khmers living under Tai rule are not too crazy with Bangkok for along time.If war broke out between Khmer and Siam,the chance is Siam will face more than one war at time.
US and Soviet were powerful and well equipped troops but each lost to Yuon and Afghan guerillas.
Materials are repalceable and destructible but human will and determination will be the key to victory at last.
9:23 AM,
Keep on dreaming. Sound like Khmer Rouge mentality.
9:42am,
Probably you are too young to see and appreciate human reality and capability.
To 9:42am
Is it a bad thing to dream?ahhahahh
Hey! The Siem can win the war but will they win the battle? Do you think that if the Siem win the war and it will be the end of it? The end of war is the beginning of a new war!
The Siem and their superiority complex are too much for the 21th century and they can learn a lot from the Vietcong experience in Cambodia! In Southeast Asia it is Cambodian who will do the check and balance between the Viet and the Siem! If Cambodian can't have it and Cambodian will have to destroy it so that the Siem and the Viet can't have it too!
It is inhuman not to dream!
It could be true because Khmers and perhaps most Thais were just one family until the founding of Sukhothai when some Khmer traitors joint Tai separatists.
Vietnamese is very much different from Khmers and Thais. Vietnamese are cool but dangerous. They sneak in slowly but successfully.
9:23 AM.
Vietnamese didn't win the war. In facts the Vietnamese weren't well armed to beat the superpowerful United States. Because of the pressure at home that th ewar in Vietnam was the wrong war, and besides Soviet and Chinese and Cuba were helping the Vietnamese.
The US can win easily just look back how Hiroshima and Nagasaki knocked out by atomic bombs.
You must be a Vietnamese to brag like that.
9:23am
Afghan guerillas didn't win the war agaisnt the Soviet Unions it was the US who supported them did it. Chinese and Soviets and Cuba helped Vietnamese agaisnt the US in Vietnam war, then the US supported the Afghan guerillas with all power machines to decimate the Soviet Unions.
The Soviets spent too many billion of dollars to help the Vietnamese just to take Laos and Cambodia and the Soviet Unions went bankrupt.
And now the US support the Vietnamese to get rid of China from SEA.
About Thais and Khmers. Thais made too big mistake for looking down on Khmers, and now look what happen? Thais and Khmers share the same culture and the two should not be enemy. If they are, then Yuon will take advantage from the two.
The point is have equipments and technology will not guaranty final victory.
World War II and Viet War or Afghan War are not the same.
Each war have patrons/sponsors.The confusion here is the warriors and war patrons are two different things.
Tailand seems to think warring with Khmer is an easy win because Khmer is poor. Highly unlikely in this century, other ASEAN members will not let Tai mess up their market,Cambodia,especially Singhaborei that is the usual known covert arms dealer in the region.
Vietcong is seen as invincible military force during the Vietnam war and for the Vietcong to brag that they can beat American is ludicrous. First of all there are no weapon factories in Vietnam and how the hell the Vietcong have the weapon to fight American ?
Well! The factories are in Soviet Union and China that supply the Vietcong with unlimited of weapons to counter American military any time and anywhere in Vietnam!
If Thailand want to attack Cambodia and the whole senior will replay itself again until they leave Cambodia the same way the Vietcong leave Cambodia!
Vietnamese didn't beat American even with all helps from Chinese and Soviet Unions. It was American who withdrew troops from the pressure at back home and besides the war in Vietnam wouldn't benefit Americans at all.
Soviet spent too many billion of US dollars just to take Cambodia and Laos. If Americans continued that war, multi million of Vietnamese people would die; and the war may have spread into Thailand, where US has its own military based in it. The US has its prison in Thailand like Guantanamo bay in Thailand although Abhisit denied lately.
From secret sources Vietnam lost at least 10 million people, many of them were ethnic minorties, but Communist leaders of Vietnam never allowed outsiders to know the facts, besides lied to the world that they lost only more than a million.
Vietnamese communist killed too many million people and most the dead bodies were burned to fertilize farmland.
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