Sean Pengse, CBC PresidentWednesday, 13 January 2010
Meas Sokchea
The Phnom Penh Post
THE Council of Ministers on Tuesday moved to rebuke claims that markers on the Cambodia-Vietnam border were planted illegally.
The statement comes amid fresh debate two weeks before opposition leader Sam Rainsy is to face criminal charges for moving posts at the border.
In an interview with Voice of America last week, outspoken border activist Sean Pengse said the controversial border markers were planted illegally, because a 1985 treaty used as a basis for the border delineation was cancelled.
The government failed to consult with landowners who lost parts of their land to the divisive border, the Paris-based president of Cambodia’s Border Committee (CBC) claimed.
“It is illegal under national and international law. Only absolutely communist countries do things like this,” Sean Pengse told VOA Khmer, and also slammed the National Assembly, calling its lifting of opposition leader Sam Rainsy’s parliamentary immunity “undemocratic”.
The Council of Ministers, however, dismissed Sean Pengse’s concerns in a statement Tuesday.
“It is not true that the border markers were planted illegally because landowners were not informed. Border land is not recognised as privately owned land,” the statement read.
Land titles in the area were never issued, the statement continued, because the precise border was never clear.
A Sam Rainsy Party spokesman, however, rejected criticisms of Sean Pengse, calling the former minister of mines under the Lon Nol government a “border expert” who had the Kingdom’s best interests in mind.
“Sean Pengse has no political interests. He does not want to be a government minister,” SRP spokesman Yim Sovann said.
The public spat comes ahead of a January 27 court date in which SRP leader Sam Rainsy and five Svay Rieng province villagers have been called to face charges relating to the uprooting of border markers in October.
The statement comes amid fresh debate two weeks before opposition leader Sam Rainsy is to face criminal charges for moving posts at the border.
In an interview with Voice of America last week, outspoken border activist Sean Pengse said the controversial border markers were planted illegally, because a 1985 treaty used as a basis for the border delineation was cancelled.
The government failed to consult with landowners who lost parts of their land to the divisive border, the Paris-based president of Cambodia’s Border Committee (CBC) claimed.
“It is illegal under national and international law. Only absolutely communist countries do things like this,” Sean Pengse told VOA Khmer, and also slammed the National Assembly, calling its lifting of opposition leader Sam Rainsy’s parliamentary immunity “undemocratic”.
The Council of Ministers, however, dismissed Sean Pengse’s concerns in a statement Tuesday.
“It is not true that the border markers were planted illegally because landowners were not informed. Border land is not recognised as privately owned land,” the statement read.
Land titles in the area were never issued, the statement continued, because the precise border was never clear.
A Sam Rainsy Party spokesman, however, rejected criticisms of Sean Pengse, calling the former minister of mines under the Lon Nol government a “border expert” who had the Kingdom’s best interests in mind.
“Sean Pengse has no political interests. He does not want to be a government minister,” SRP spokesman Yim Sovann said.
The public spat comes ahead of a January 27 court date in which SRP leader Sam Rainsy and five Svay Rieng province villagers have been called to face charges relating to the uprooting of border markers in October.
20 comments:
Sean Pengse you are suck! nobody care about your shit. I'm sick of your shit about cambodian border, you need a life please stop talking trash useless shit! you can't do shit beause you not cambodian. I'm here in cambodia and I'm pround of my decho Hun Sen. Please get life and die peacfuly NO BODY CARE ABOUT YOU FUCKING BIG MOUTH DO NOTHING SON OF BITCH
WE APPRECIATED THE PATRIOT OF CAMBODIA BORDER COMMITTEE PRESIDENT MR SEANG PENGSE, WHO HAS EXPERIENCED IN BORDER WITH CAMBODIA AND YOUN IN HIS EFFORT TO PROTECTED OUR NATIONAL INTEREST, WE ADMIRES AND RESPECTED YOU AND ALL OF KHMER PATROITS WHO FIGHT TO KEEP OUR BOUNDARIES ETERNALLY.
MAY GOD BLESS US ALL KHMER NATION AND IT PEOPLE.
8:52 AM,
Ah Chh'kaer Kanh Cheas Chor Yuon Hanoi.
Ah Kh'bot Cheat Khmer.
Ah Preah Pak Ra Mouk.
Ah Kone M3e Chor Sam Phpoeung Yuon, Ov Bo Doi, Louk Luy Srok Khmer.
Vietname will go down to hell in 2012
8:52am
You are stupid ashole! Wake up would you!
You and all Khmer must listen and united.
Khmer BB
8:52AM I am sick and tired to see you on KI, you are Yuon slave , get the fuck out of Cambodia before we all Khmers kill you.Don't forget to take your mother fucker Decho with you back to Hanoi OK!!
This 8:52 AM is made from Ah Hun's sperm, that's why he talks Lop Lop Lop
Ah! 8:52am
ហេតុអីបានជាពួកអា ហ៊ុន សែន ទាំងអស់គ្នាគេ
និយាយមិនចេះស្តាប់ គេចង់ឲ្យពួកអ្ហែងនឹងបានល្អ
ព្រោះពិភពលោកគេកំពុងតែស្អប់ពួកអ្ហែងគ្រប់ៗប្រ
ទេស។គេឲ្យជំនួយទៅព្រោះគេអាណិតរាស្ត្រ តាម
តែពួកអ្ហែងគេមិនឲ្យស៊ីទេ។
សំដីលោកសម រង្សីនឹងលោកសៀន ប៉េងសែសុទ្ធ
តែត្រូវទាំងអស់ បើពួកអ្ហែងចេះគិត ដឹងខុសដឹងត្រូវ
ពួកអ្ហែងមិនអាចថាគាត់ខុសទេ។
អញមិនមែនបក្ស សម រង្សី ទេ អញបក្សពិភព
លោក អញក៏មានអារម្មណ៏មិនចង់ពួកអ្ហែង
អាក្រក់ដែរ តែពួកអ្ហែង និស្ស័យហាក់ដូចជា
យួននៅក្នុងក្បាល។
ពួកអ្ហែងជារដ្ឋាភិបាល យកបង្គោលទៅបោះលើ
ដីស្រែរបស់រាស្ត្រ ដោយមិនសុំឬប្រាប់រាស្ត្រមួយ
ម៉ាត់ តើអ្ហែងគិតមើលខុសឬត្រូវ?
ហើយពួកអ្ហែង ចាប់រាស្ត្រទាំងនោះដាក់គុកទៀត
តើពួកអ្ហែង គិតមើលខុសឬត្រូវ?
បើពួកអ្ហែងមិនចេះគិតគឺពួកអ្ហែងជាពួកស្វាយួន។
A slave youn 8:52am
your clans will die soon.
Who maked Khmer people down,will
be died soon.
the judgement day For CPP hun sen 's dogs is coming soon.
The world will send you to the hell if you don't change your mind.
Ah 8:52, ah kone mee sompeng oss sach, ah pler and ah slap nung larn bok neng truv krob kamplern eng ah ronteash banh. Kone mee sompeng oss sach niss veuy. Ah Hun Sh*t is only good at being a SLAVE of ah YOUNs, ah pler. How dare you attack Mr. Sean Pengse!!! You must be out of your stupid mind, ah kone sompeng oss sach. Ah Hun Sen is simply a piece of shit crumb of ah YOUN butthole so are you you ah slap nung truv krob kamplerng kone ah Hun Sen. Hahha.
seng is fucking useless all he do is talk.......bulshit. seng do nothing to help cambodia but talk....he don't have any power or control over the current cambodian goverment policy but talk..... nobody care!!! the same as ah lop samrainsy is fucking stupid usless son of bitch too can't do shit for is party of his cambodian people what a bunch of fuck head loser!
11:52AM You Parents are fucking loser. You dumb fuck. Go get yourself check up and stop listent to Viet Cong. Lol
It seems that AH HUN SEN or AH SVA KIM HONG don't really care much about Cambodian border issue and that explain why dirt poor Cambodian farmers are complaining about loosing their farmland due to Viet encroachment! Dirt poor Cambodian fishermen get kill for fishing in their sea and lost their farmland along the border! The fact is since 1979 Cambodian has lost on average 7- 10 miles along Cambodian border!
Once awhile Cambodia is so lucky to have a person who is care enough about Cambodia by showing Cambodian road map in dealing with Vietnam. Thank you Mr. Sean Pengse for your work and Cambodia needs you!
I'm not supporting or opposing what Mr. Pengse said/claim. But I can't figure out how can someone live a few thousand KMs away to comment on something when he does not see it with his own eyes. I think it'll make more sense if Mr. Pengse come back to Cambodia and spend a few months living in those villages along the border to gather facts to present to the govt and int'l community of his claim.
Your claim can only be genuine when it's supported with facts & evidence.
Regards,
CK
to CK,
The American military now has un-manned drones that are sent to spy and drop bombs on America's enemies. The operators of these drones sit in Washington DC somewhere, and the the bombs are dropped in Iraq or Afghanistan. Those bombs are just as accurate and kill just as well as if the bombers were 10 feet away. Now are you saying to us that just because the bombers are in DC, they can't be precise in their reading of the maps? Perhaps you would like to stand under one of those bombs and see if the facts are wrong? In this day of electronics, GPS, satellites, etc, you don't need to be on location to know where something ought to be.
Dear 8:11PM
Yes, I agreed with you on the advancement in technology. But technology doesn't mean it won't have errors. Everyone knew that several of US drone attacks killed countless Iraqi and Afghan civilians. If the US is so advanced in its technology why can't it find Bin Laden up to now? why can't it defeat Taliban up to now? why can't it fight insurgencies in Iraq up to now?
The same applied to GPS, you need to be on the spot in order to accurately measure the precise location. Does the French surveyors used GPS back then? NO! so how can you confirm that the two points are matched if you're not on the ground itself. How can you confirm which one is right and which one is wrong if one used ancient equipment and the other used modern technology. By saying this I didn't mean to defend the demarcation process. I saw Mr Ke Kim Yan's report and I've been to the Phnom Den border myself, I saw the match between the report and the actual encroachment. And yes, this is something that our govt should take action, through international law, not physically uprooting border post. Militarily and economically, we're in no position to confront VN. So the only option is through soft approach, negotiation and international involvement.
CK
How can you get international involvement, if you are not working for the government? how can you go to the county to investigate, if the government just one to arrest you?
to CK and 8:11PM
យើងកុំឈ្លោះគ្នា ព្រោះជាការឥតប្រយោជន៏
រឿងធំគឺរឿងយួននឹងសៀមយកដី យើងទាំងអស់
គ្នាត្រូវតែទទួលស្គាល់ថាយួននឹងសៀម យកដី។
យើងនាំគ្នាគិតធ្វើយ៉ាងណា ឲ្យដីខ្មែរយើងនៅ
ដ៏ដែល គឺផ្ទៃដីៈ១៧៦ ៥២០ គីឡូម៉ែត្រការ៉េ
(176,520sq km)នឹងផ្ទៃទឹកៈ៤៥២០ គីឡូម៉ែត្រការ៉េ(4,520 sq km)សរុបទាំងអស់ៈ 181,040 sq km ឬ
(១៨១ ០៤០ គីឡូម៉ែត្រការ៉េ)ជាការស្រេច។
សូមលោក CK កុំជជែកយកតែពីឈ្នះគេ ត្រូវគិត
ថា លោក សឿន ប៉េងសែ បាននិយាយគឺជាយោ
បល់ មិនមែននិយាយដើម្បីសម្លាប់ពួកអ្នកឯងទេ។
ចូលអ្នកឯងសាកល្បងគិតលមើល ម្ចាស់ស្រែដែល
ពួកអ្នកឯងឬពួក ហ៊ុន សែនចាប់គេដាក់គុកនោះ តើខុសឬត្រូវ។ហើយម្ចាស់ស្រែនេះពីដើមមកគាត់
បង់ពន្ធឲ្យួយួនឬឲ្យខ្មែរ។បើសិនពួកអ្នកវាស់ដីគាត់ពាក់
កណ្តាលទៅឲ្យយួនតើអ្នកឯងឲ្យគាត់រស់យ៉ាងណា?ពួកអ្នកឯងមិនអាចបំបាត់គាត់ឬរាស្ត្រខ្មែរក្នុង
ពិភពលោកបានទេ ព្រោះខ្មែរនៅចាំច្បាស់ណាស់ សូម្បីចម្ងាយព្រុំប្រទល់យួនខ្មែរ ១ ២២៨ គីឡូម៉ែត្រ
នោះក៏គេមិនអាចភ្លេចបានដែរ។
រឿងដែលយើងគួរឲ្យភ័យគួរឲ្យខ្លាចគឺពួកអ្នកឯង
លក់ដីឲ្យយួនឬជំពាក់លុយយួនឲ្យយួនកាត់យក។
នយោបាយសម្លាប់រាស្ត្រឬលក់ដីជាតិ ជានយោ
បាយអត្តឃាដ។
To CK...ahahha
Look! You can disprove all you want but you can't change the fact that the Vietcong encroachment is affecting dirt poor Cambodian farmers who live along the border! Dirt poor Cambodian farmers are like cannery in the coalmine and they are an early warning to all Cambodian people to what they about to face in the near future!
Don't confuse technology with war! You need to understand that this is war that American are facing and civilians will get kill no matter how you look at it and especially when the bad guys choose to hide among the population! You forget that behind the drone is a human who take control and make the decision to attack not the computer(technology) so now there is a human error to be considered!
Your understanding of technology is so limited and that is understandable!
I have been to Cambodian-Viet border too and go into Vietnam as well! For me it is so strange to see the Vietcong government build the border post in the replica of Angkor Wat in Kampong Cham! I never understand the psychology behind this! Does the Vietcong government want Cambodian people to respect this border post even though this border post was put illegal inside Cambodian territories?
So here you are preaching about" soft approach, negotiation and international involvement." Since 1979 Cambodian Vietcong puppet government never dare bring any border issue with the Vietcong government beside opening the door bigger to Vietcong encroachment! The whole Cambodia is being paralyze by a few Vietcong slaves such AH HUN SEN and AH SVA KIM HONG! When the going get tough they start preaching about Vietcong law and illegal border treaties and what is the next option for Cambodia?
Cambodia is a dying nation! But if Cambodian people chose to fight before dying such Mr. Sam Rainsy and the enemy will retreat because Cambodian have the will power to fight!
"Canary in a coal mine -- Miners kept caged canaries in the mines as an "early warning device." If the air was bad enough to kill the canary, it would soon be bad enough to kill people."
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/10/messages/818.html
Wow. very constructive arguments from all point of views.Obviously you are all very educated Khmer people who cares about our motherland.
Whether you agree or disagree, a well thougthful discourse is refreshing.
By not using profanity and character assassination we can all listen to each other point of views and analyse ourselves which is the best option for Cambodia.
Good Job.
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