Op-Ed by Khmerization
2nd April 2010
The US decision to cancel a delivery of its military aid to the present Cambodian government seems like a déjà vu and reminiscent of the US sour relations with Sihanouk’s Sangkum Reastr Niyum government in the 1950s and 60s. The then United States government wanted Cambodia to adopt a US-friendly policy in exchange for economic and military aid. Sihanouk rejected America’s overtures and instead opted for China’s aid. Sihanouk’s rejection of American aid led to the deterioration of relations between the two countries which then led the US government to cut off all aid in the late 1960s. The cut of aid by America and Sihanouk’s acceptance of aid from China had culminated into a strain in the relations between the two countries which had precipitously led to the US orchestrating a coup against Sihanouk in 1970.
By the same token, Hun Sen’s toying with China and his present anti-American attitude could be a premonition and recipe for the repeat of the 1970 event. The then US Administration had used Defence Minister and Prime Minister Lon Nol to turn against Sihanouk and then induced a coup d’etat to topple him. America could now do the same with Hun Sen by using some of his closest lieutenants to topple him.
Hun Sen is now repeating Sihanouk’s fatal mistake by playing a dangerous game with America. Another US-induced coup d’etat might be hatched sooner or later should Hun Sen choose to ignore America and continue to irritate America with his cosy relations with China. Hun Sen, like Sihanouk, had been duped and hypnotised to believe that China is Cambodia’s only saviour. Like Sihanouk, he is of the view that only China could help Cambodia to counter America’s bully and that Cambodia could use China’s political and military leverage to protect itself from the Vietnamese expansionism and hegemony. Sihanouk’s gamble and miscalculations had cost Cambodia irreparable destruction and the loss of nearly 2 million of innocent Cambodian lives. Hun Sen’s present gamble and miscalculations could likewise lead to another calamity and disastrous consequence for Cambodia and the Cambodian people.
I am of the opinion that Hun Sen’s policy of playing off one superpower against another is dangerous for Cambodia. Cambodia’s intimate relations with only China is neither good for Cambodia nor the Cambodian people in the long run, but is dangerous. I am of the view that good relations with all the superpowers, especially America, are in the best interests of Cambodia. Good and smooth relations with America will ensure an enduring democracy, security and long lasting economic prosperity which have been proven in other countries that have accepted American aids and political guidance like Thailand, Taiwan, South Korea, Israel and the Philippines. Good relations with China, as seen in Cambodia in the 1950s and 60s, will only bring short term security, political stability and economic prosperity, but will face misery and destruction like in the 1970s when Cambodia was led by China’s proxy- the Khmer Rouge regime. Today, China’s massive investments had been pouring in in exchange for big concessions such as forestry concessions, farmland concessions, mining and hydroelectric dam-building concessions. Most of these concessions will cause disastrous and irreparable environmental damage to Cambodia and, without a doubt, they will generate big benefits and high returns for China in the future. As such, the notion that Chinese aids are unconditional and without a tie is a myth and misconception.
On the other hand, the US aids are mostly conditional on Cambodia improving democracy, human rights and institutional reforms, which will only benefit Cambodia and the Cambodian people. Most of the countries that received American aids, like Israel, Turkey, Thailand and the Philippines, have never had any problems with American conditions because governments of these countries are democratically elected and their human rights records are acceptable to the United States subsequent governments. Cambodia under Mr. Hun Sen cannot accept American conditions because it is corruption-prone, incompetent and its human rights records are appalling and therefore cannot be made comparable to these countries in any sense.
I can sense the ghost of the 1970 coup d’etat returns, sooner or later, if Hun Sen’s recalcitrance and his anti-American policy still persists.
2nd April 2010
“I can sense the ghost of the 1970 coup d’etat returns, sooner or later, if Hun Sen’s recalcitrance and his anti-American policy still persists.”
The US decision to cancel a delivery of its military aid to the present Cambodian government seems like a déjà vu and reminiscent of the US sour relations with Sihanouk’s Sangkum Reastr Niyum government in the 1950s and 60s. The then United States government wanted Cambodia to adopt a US-friendly policy in exchange for economic and military aid. Sihanouk rejected America’s overtures and instead opted for China’s aid. Sihanouk’s rejection of American aid led to the deterioration of relations between the two countries which then led the US government to cut off all aid in the late 1960s. The cut of aid by America and Sihanouk’s acceptance of aid from China had culminated into a strain in the relations between the two countries which had precipitously led to the US orchestrating a coup against Sihanouk in 1970.
By the same token, Hun Sen’s toying with China and his present anti-American attitude could be a premonition and recipe for the repeat of the 1970 event. The then US Administration had used Defence Minister and Prime Minister Lon Nol to turn against Sihanouk and then induced a coup d’etat to topple him. America could now do the same with Hun Sen by using some of his closest lieutenants to topple him.
Hun Sen is now repeating Sihanouk’s fatal mistake by playing a dangerous game with America. Another US-induced coup d’etat might be hatched sooner or later should Hun Sen choose to ignore America and continue to irritate America with his cosy relations with China. Hun Sen, like Sihanouk, had been duped and hypnotised to believe that China is Cambodia’s only saviour. Like Sihanouk, he is of the view that only China could help Cambodia to counter America’s bully and that Cambodia could use China’s political and military leverage to protect itself from the Vietnamese expansionism and hegemony. Sihanouk’s gamble and miscalculations had cost Cambodia irreparable destruction and the loss of nearly 2 million of innocent Cambodian lives. Hun Sen’s present gamble and miscalculations could likewise lead to another calamity and disastrous consequence for Cambodia and the Cambodian people.
I am of the opinion that Hun Sen’s policy of playing off one superpower against another is dangerous for Cambodia. Cambodia’s intimate relations with only China is neither good for Cambodia nor the Cambodian people in the long run, but is dangerous. I am of the view that good relations with all the superpowers, especially America, are in the best interests of Cambodia. Good and smooth relations with America will ensure an enduring democracy, security and long lasting economic prosperity which have been proven in other countries that have accepted American aids and political guidance like Thailand, Taiwan, South Korea, Israel and the Philippines. Good relations with China, as seen in Cambodia in the 1950s and 60s, will only bring short term security, political stability and economic prosperity, but will face misery and destruction like in the 1970s when Cambodia was led by China’s proxy- the Khmer Rouge regime. Today, China’s massive investments had been pouring in in exchange for big concessions such as forestry concessions, farmland concessions, mining and hydroelectric dam-building concessions. Most of these concessions will cause disastrous and irreparable environmental damage to Cambodia and, without a doubt, they will generate big benefits and high returns for China in the future. As such, the notion that Chinese aids are unconditional and without a tie is a myth and misconception.
On the other hand, the US aids are mostly conditional on Cambodia improving democracy, human rights and institutional reforms, which will only benefit Cambodia and the Cambodian people. Most of the countries that received American aids, like Israel, Turkey, Thailand and the Philippines, have never had any problems with American conditions because governments of these countries are democratically elected and their human rights records are acceptable to the United States subsequent governments. Cambodia under Mr. Hun Sen cannot accept American conditions because it is corruption-prone, incompetent and its human rights records are appalling and therefore cannot be made comparable to these countries in any sense.
I can sense the ghost of the 1970 coup d’etat returns, sooner or later, if Hun Sen’s recalcitrance and his anti-American policy still persists.
46 comments:
In his memoir pp 433-434' White House Years' Kissinger denied US involvement in the removal of Sihanouk from power on 18 March 1970.It was myth and fabrication wildly spread by Viet Cong front and Le Duc Tho.He also pointed out it was Hanoi not US that caused destruction to Cambodia. Nixon tried to assist Cambodia from being swallowed by Hanoi. In Paris talks,Le Duc Tho rejected Sihanouk and Laos neutrality and emphasized" it was his people destiny not merely takeover Saigon but to dominate the whole Indochina".
Sihanouk severed relations with US in May 1965 under pressure from the leftists but in April 1969 Nixon recognized Cambodia sovereignty and later in June US-Cambodia relations was fully restored by Sihanouk and Nixon governments.
Like it or not,Hanoi has both hands in destroying Cambodia and playing savior at last in 1979. People inclided Hun Sen were confused. Actually hands that cradle are the hands that kill.The mysterious hands are in Hanoi that ran Viet Cong infiltrators.
It is sad that many Cambodian leaders, past and present, see China as the savior and America as the aggressor and imperialist. Hun Sen's alienation from America and shows favoritism toward China will see Cambodia miss a lot of good opportunity. Chinese investments are mostly a get rich quick investments and mostly have no regards for impact on the native people. Hun Sen must know that America is the unchallenged superpower and almost all of American people are richer than most Chinese. Cambodia had suffered enough at the hand of China. We should look up to America as our savior like Israel, Thailand, Philippines and other rich and emerging countries do.
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The question is that "was that Fucking US told Lon Nol that they still help them fight the Khmer Rouge but end up in flying out of their embassy in the last day?"
I guess people and also the so-called Khmer republicans, should remember what Prince Sirimatak said " I make mistake that I trust the American..!!!"..
"Turkey, Israel, Thailand and the Philippines, have never had any problems with American conditions because governments of these countries are democratically elected and their human rights records are acceptable to the United States subsequent governments"
- Philippines? 90% of the total land controlled by only 7 families?
- Thailand: human right record is acceptable by the US..yeah..but does that mean it is good?...Should remember how they Kill the Khmer refugees, Their Muslims in the South..and currently burn our Khmer boys....
- Turkey?..Check the fact first before you write down..
- Israel?..what have they done to the Palestinians?..and they are acceptable by the US?
Why couldn't we do the same thing to the Uygur?
Dear Khmerization,
I can't help but seeing your conclusion, though I think is correct, is painted with political bias. I don't think a coup d'eta you mentioned to topple Hunsen is the route the US want to take. Why?
1.The world's politcal climate now is quite different than the time of Lon Nol. During that time the free world was confronted with communism idiology, thus the Cold War. Back then the US was in a struggle to turn the tide of communist expansion around the world. Further, the US then was engaged in a war in Vietnam, a door step away from Cambodia. It was only logical for the US to initiate a coup to topple a regime antagonist to it.
2. Right now, it is not in the US best interest to cause instability in Cambodia. For one, the US is tied up in other conflicts in other parts of the world. Second, I tend to think the US is morally responsible enough that they would want to avoid causing long-term consequences in Cambodia. They know Cambodia just crawled out of a long bloody civil war. Instability would bring more suffering. So I don't think Cambodia's decision to deport 20 Uighers back to China is significant enough for the US to start a coup.
I do agree with your conclusion that cozy friendship with China is not in Cambodia's best interest. Current Cambodian leaders forget too quickly who supported the murderous regime of KR. That big country up north does not hold itself up to any moral obligation. And the Cambodian leaders are very short sighted. They like to play the harlot, selling the country out to the highest bidder. If this continues, Cambodia might as well become one of China's provinces called Jianpuzhai Sheng(or Cambodia Province). A Chinese backward province at that!
Your observation is right on about S.Korea, Thailand, Singapore, Taiwan's prosperity is due to their good relationship with the US. Sadly, the Cambodian leaders enjoy too much indulging in personal gain through corruption that they fail to realize this.
I along with a quarter of a million other Cambodian Americans should be thankful each and everyday that we're not in our backward homeland where lawlessness is the norm.
Khmerization's points are pretty well thought out. The countries mentioned have done pretty good comparing to our poor Cambodia under the corrupt and dictatorial Hun Sen. Turkey's human rights records are acceptable to America and the UN never make a big deal about Turkey's human rights record like it did with Cambodia. Israel did horrible things to the Palestinians but it is acceptable to America, this is Khmerization's point and the Israeli government are very democratic and never jailed opposition politicians and journalists.
I agree with Khmerization that Cambodia should learn a lesson with China. a Chinese supported Khmer Rouge regime, which Hun Sen was a part of, did pretty horrible things to Cambodians. Present China's investments are not sustainable, when they got rich enough they will run away because most Chinese investments are corruptly invested with corrupt concessions awarded. Cambodian forests, dam constructions and mining lands have mostly been destroyed by Chinese investments already. America is a model in economic prosperity and democratic and political success. Remember that!
KhmerRice, you are confuse and your analysis are full of shit as usual!
Just another Dream of sharing the power.
This post forgets one significant factor in comparing the 1960ies and now. At that time it was communism the Americans wanted to contain. Now it is their war on terror. China was not a superpower either, it now is, no matter how you look at it. By withholding a few trucks they won't make a dent in any country's policies. Hun Sen is not playing off one country against the other. He just takes what he can get from the country that doesn't want to meddle. And Americans are famous for meddling in other countries' affairs. On the whole, this article is rather presumptuous.
China policy is still support the kommunist ediology in Cambodia. Khmer Rouges is disappeared but those instance is still alive and working in high position in Cambodian Govt. China play always two or tree cards with Khmer people, for instance: sihanouk (desaster)-> Pol pot (killing fields)-> Hun Sen (?????)-> and waht's next ?
To 6:26pm
Just because Hanoi had the aspiration to control both Cambodia and Loas it does not mean they could for very long, assuming your source is correct.
Sihanouk was too fearful of the Viet Cong, thus made agreement with them and the KR to the detriment of Cambodia later. Sihanouk made his policy out of fear that contributed to the lost of millions of Cambodian lives.
In retrospect, who destroy Cambodia between 1975-1979??? Let the fact speaks for itself. Sure it wasn't the Viet Cong. In fact those to destroy Cambodia turned on their former comrade the Viet Cong.
Sihanouk, what little education he received, mainly was in France.
He was never that open to the US. Had he been to the US, educate in the US, I wondered Cambodia might just turned out much better than it is today.
Good article. Though it is a for shot, it is a good food for thought.
i think it is wrong and irresponsible to be anti-american! first, have you lived in america. america on the world's best country in many way, trust me, i live here forever. i think cambodia should always be pro-american in policy, etc... maybe we should replace the leaders with those pro-american ones. it looks like someone needs a good education on the american system and way of life; it's the best in the world, if you ask me, really! i wouldn't trade that for anything on the planet!
We can only wait for American companies to invest in our country, another ten years from now? We can just wait for the US help us financially to invest in infrastructure: roads, dams... Another twenty years? Americans are investing heavily in Vietnam? Is Vietnam more democratic regime now than in Cambodia? Even if they still call them self socialists? In ten or twenty years without significant economic developments, Cambodia would be completely swallowed by the Vietnam and Thailand! Actually we are accepting all assistances whether it be from the US or China. What we cannot do is just waiting and waiting. For the big trucks, it is just the big trucks. American still give the money for maternity health cares, for AIDS, Education, scholarships to America, and so on. Eighty per cent of Cambodian garment productions go to the US. Without this, half of a million of our workers are without jobs. Actually open American market to Cambodian market is as important as direct investments. But we need more than that. We need dams for electrical powers. We need new roads and highways, and more. There is nothing to do with the '60 with the cold wars between the US and communism, namely Soviet Unions and China. Sure that the US do not want Cambodia too cozy with China, but it is all and nothing more than that. And how about the Coup d'Etat theory? I don't think that is part of US foreign policy of Obama administration. It talks more about your fantasy imagination Khmerization! You are dead wrong on this. As it is the case usually. The American interests lie on political stability in South East Asia. Not the contrary! I think that the US are more sensitive to Cambodia than you may think. The proof is there are half a millions of Khmers in the United States. More money for the KR Court. You should wait and will see American direct investments will be coming. Unfortunately we had to send Uighurs back to China, because we had no choices. The US understand that, still they need to do something in principal to let we know that they do not appreciate this kind of policy.
Everything will be all right in the next couple of weeks or days. I would bet on this!
of course, america is not perfection, however, there are still some works to be done. i still think america is the best in the world. think about it, that's why people all over the world is attracted to america like ants or flies to the honey and carrons. it's a metaphoric thing, here. god bless america.
cambodia need to understand that everywhere there are american interest, those countries benefit from it. so, when we make cambodia attractive to americans, we, too, will be protected and benefit from the american economic mights, etc... i think cambodia really needs education about america because people lack understand of america and vice versa. once khmer people understand the benefit, they will embrace american ways and americans interest forever. mayb god help cambodia go this direction. americans never destroy any country, they help to protect, bring in economic growth, preserve and conserve it and brings in lots of convenience, good life, good living standard, good education, etc, etc... i think cambodia needs to understand about america beyond daily politics, really. america can help cambodia out of poverty and suffering, really! i believe most khmer people, if only they understand the good life in american, would want cambodia to embrace america more than any other country on the planet, of course, cambodia takes any donation from any country, but the real benefit always america, the best, you know!
Khmerization,
You are stupid to post this sort of article. The topple of Sihanouk and the US backed Lon Nol can also be viewed at the dawn of the birth of the Khmer Rouge. You are an idiot to even think such things will happen again, and throw cambodia back into its utmost pain in history.
i feel more safe in america than anywhere in the world, you know!
the past lesson in cambodia with anyone is that you have to have or use people skill to win the heart and mind of the khmer people to get support. do not under estimate the khmer people because without their support, it is ineffective. cambodia is a country. you don't just go to cambodia with your bad attitude of looking down on people, etc... people there going to fight back because they think differently about you. but if you use people skill to win the heart and mind of the people, it will take you a long time. doesn't mean, you have to kiss butts, etc, to do that, just mean you show respect and they do the same to you; that's all. all about respect, really. if you fail to understand that, you are in the wrong place and thus should change your job, really!
think of it like applying for a job, you have to show and put your best foot forward when dealing with a country like cambodia. this way, you will win the heart and mind of khmer people in cambodia, and thus, they will cooperate with your cause, etc... storming in there with your bad attitude, you will only get resistance, etc... trust me. cambodia is a country, not a privonce of you, ok!
using the heart and win method doesn't me you tric or deceive them either because people can learn from it. you have to be honest and genuine about what you wanted to do to help. using trick on people is never work the second time. plus, it's called taking advantage of people. not good, to say the least, really!
Always America the best and safe country in the world.
You are able to explain to someone, who never been in the US more than 30 days.
I live in Europe, but knew not very bad USA, from the East to the West and from the North to the South. I was also able to visit DC (White House) and other important places in the US.
The good reason, why I still live in Europe, I feel also very safe here. But I have no reason to blame my birth country Cambodia, because I understood the situation well and I am still loyal and love my country Cambodia very much.
I feel, some of you here don't like Cambodia or you are from the State Department in DC.
some people failed to understand the difference between right and responsibility. khmer people have rights to be khmer, while those who wanted to make a difference have responsibility. so, you have to put the two together in order to get the work done. you need to work with their rights as well and juggle your own responsibility as well. if you fail to do both, you use the wrong formula, thus, it won't work out the solution.
I concurred with 6:26 p.m. and 10:17 p.m. and as any super powers they court every country to be on their side and in regards to Cambodia 1970 it was Sihanouk who's a coward runaway from the country/situation instead of dealing with the NVA in Cambodia and instead he left it to Lon Nol Sak Suthsakhan to deal with and the latest has to ask for U.S. help or else how are they going to counter the NVA and the Chinese commies???? whereas today situation it's best that P.M. Hun Sen accept U.S. and China's help in order to counter the Vietnamese and either way, the NVA will get rid of Hun Sen once their plans are complete or when they have no use for or keeping Hun Sen is too much burden to them, therefore, Hun Sen can fall into China or U.S. for help!
Cambodia has no choice just like during the Vietnam War. The US, if it wants to have Cambodia as an ally must make clear their intention if it also sees that the survival of Cambodia is included in the policy. If the US thinks and treats Cambodia as a part of the Viets' grand scheme, there must be Cambodian resistance and policy to ensure that the Cambodian nation will not become a province of Vietnam - and that is when China could and should play a role.
However, the best is to maintain the status quo; that Cambodia be left as a wild card at all times, where both US and China will keep one another from outright controlling Cambodia - and that is a fanciful dream.
It is not in anyone's interest to see a reality of the Viet's persistent, lifelong scheme of dominating that part of South East Asia where regional security and stability would then be jeopardized.
So, Khmer leaders, make sure yours and your children's futures are best possible protected. You have a very challenging responsibility to dance to the tunes of these giants and stay alive when the music stopped.
KHMERIZATION;
Fair analysis for Cambodia's political situation today. I do not believe Hun Sen has that big idea (geopolitics) that you are talking about. Hun Sen does not play geopolitics at all, but tries to save his Cambodia INC. Hun Sen is in power to control poor Khmer rather than controlling (or trying to control) foreigners.
I think former King Sihanouk did played better geopolitics, while Hun Sen has no geopolitics in his approach. Hun Sen only cares for any foreign regimes that can help prolonging his stay in power in Cambodia, Hun Sen would welcome with open arms.
If Hun Sen is in power to look after the Khmer Nation's interests, then everything you said makes sense! I don't think Hun Sen has waken to smell the real geopolitics in Asia and the world at large yet. Is it too late for Hun Sen to wake up? Only Hun Sen knows?! Maybe Hun Sen never will!
KHMER Angkor.
The Viets are working hard to get their way to control the indochina countries. The quest to dominate the area is in every one of their doctrines whether they are playing their China or US card. These bunches have consistently proven that they are very skillful and sophisticated in the arts of manipulation.
sometimes to survive, you have to do whatever it takes. that's where the manipulation came from. anyway, the key is to be consistent and skillful by practice and get education, ok! anybody with a good brain cell can do it. it's all about attitude, perserverance, discipline, patience and love for your own kind, etc... don't have to be evil though! yes, learn from everybody; enemies, friends, etc... never stop learning for life!
The manipulation from the Viets are for expansionism - not survival.
Please carefully read between the lines and understand the meaning. The comment implied that Cambodia should be as manipulative or more to stay alive and avoid being swallowed by the more skillful and sophisticated hungry neighbor.
To 11:20pm,
We in the US also still love our birth country Cambodia just as you are in Europe. I think you are in France. We never forget our birth country. We are just appalled about corruption in Cambodia. We would like to see Cambodia become developed, but corruption in government is holding the country back. We also have come to appreciate and love the US and what it has to offer.
Hopefully, children and grandchildren of Cambodians diaspora(in Europe and the US)and all over the world grow up to appreciate their ancestral home in Southeast Asia.
Peace to Cambodia, I pray..
Dear All's
I appreciate it very much for your painstaking research and attention on current Cambodia affairs. Believe or not, there's no true scholar on earth claim to be a historian of authority. All historical record and account is a matter of opinion -- trust, but verify. Keep yesterday's lesson, practice today's lesson, and prepare tomorrow's lesson. That's about it.
Cambodia's fate is still in Cambodian people's hand(s)-- we can either save or destroy her. To save her, we must hold together(solidality is a must) and raise up to overthrow (a war without bloodshed) the present corrupt regime. To destroy her, we simply turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to crime of corruption (in CPP's culture) and neighboring aggression (permitted by CPP).
In short, only our people solidarity can determine our nation's fate. And I'm ready for it, I'm all set to go!
To 9:38 PM,
1-The records prove correct that Yuon wanted to dominate Indochina since Ho Chi Minh was alive. US knew full well and wished Sihanouk would reconsider to cease his communist inspiration and alliance with Viet Cong.
2.Sihanouk was not only fearful of the Viet Cong but instrumental in sending 3 ghosts (Khieu Samphan,Hou Youn,Hu Nim) to organize the Viet Minh broken network in case war broke out with Yuon. His alliance with Yuon put radical KR leaders in suspicion. Sihanouk was for the killing fields from the start back in 1970.
3. You got it backward,Yuon did the destrution during 1970-1975 then Viet Cong-KR did destruction during 1975-1979 and Viet Minh-KR did the destruction via K-5 during1979-1993.
4.Sihanouk was educated in Saigon, not in France, the same as the rest of his peers like Lon Nol,Sirikmatak,Nhek Thioulong etc...
Last Sihanouk liked US from the beginning and at the end of his rule in 1969.
After Yuon occupied Cambodia in 1979,Sihanouk was exploited by Hanoi. In New York in the 80's, he wanted to defect to US after his UN assembly address.
Embassador Richard Holbrook is still alive and can attest to that.
Sihanouk told Kissinger in person that he likes US,regardless.
I think, we all love Cambodia. The point that US aid is link to Democracy, is not true. It is just the label only. Do you remember Philippine ??? After WW II, there was a dictatorship regime in the country (Fern. Markos), US did not mind to deal with him at all, as long as he does what you was told.
You can't just only use the label of corrupted Gov. as the reason why Cambodia is behind other country. Here is why:
- Sihanouk regime, the KR said he was corrupted.
- Lon Nol regime is corrupted and let US bomb the country.
- The KR regime is corrupted and killed their own people.
- Hun Sen Gov. is corrupted that is the reason why Cambodia as it is right now.
Is there any good Gov. out there ?
It is just the matter of opinion and depend on what side are you on.
Any Gov. in the world, you will see corruption so as the US. But don't use it as a stopping block from helping Cambodia. You can't use it as the reason to overthrow the Gov. either. It is a working progress. The US has been a democratic country for a long time but they still try to pass the law every day to prevent corruption.
You look at Thailand, any Gov. that hole power, has been accused of corruption so as Phillipine, but nobody said that I can't help these country because of the corruption.
The matter of fact, the CIA love corrupted country so they can use money to get their way or munipulate the Gov.
If the US have to choose between Thailand and Cambodia, which one do you think US will choose ???
All these big country will throw Cambodia in the water in a heart beat as long as they see the benefit from it.
So, we need to be united and help Cambodia to improve any way we can
without rely too much on the outsiders. When the big oil reserve is discovered, the US attitude will change because they have to protect their interest.
get the USA's interest in cambodia and they will protect their interest. that's what cambodia should do when it comes to foreign policy. and as for khmer and khmer, we all need and see cooperation is the key to unite all khmer people, if not for political reason, for country and our khmer race sake, you know! don't forget to consult with each other, too. people go to work, but at the end of the day, they all come home to rest and sleep. cambodia is our home and will always be as we really feel comfortable at home than elsewhere, really! may god help guide khmer people and cambodia to do what is best for our nation, people, interest and so forth. they have one, we have one too.
when we adapt, we should survive.
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime
Members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Kek Iev
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
Committed:
Tortures
Brutality
Executions
Massacres
Mass Murder
Genocide
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Slavery
Force Labour
Overwork to Death
Human Abuses
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime
Members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
Committed:
Attempted Murders
Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
Attempted Assassinations
Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Assassinated over 80 members of Sam Rainsy Party.
"But as of today, over eighty members of my party have been assassinated. Countless others have been injured, arrested, jailed, or forced to go into hiding or into exile."
Sam Rainsy LIC 31 October 2009 - Cairo, Egypt
Executions
Executed over 100 members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders
Murdered 3 Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Murdered Chea Vichea
Murdered Ros Sovannareth
Murdered Hy Vuthy
Murdered Journalists
Murdered Khim Sambo
Murdered Khim Sambo's son
Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Murdered Innocent Men
Murdered Innocent Women
Murdered Innocent Children
Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Brutalities
Police Brutality Against Monks
Police Brutality Against Evictees
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
Human Abuses
Human Rights Abuses
Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Embezzlement
Treason
Border Encroachment, allow Vietnam to encroaching into Cambodia.
Signed away our territories to Vietnam; Koh Tral, almost half of our ocean territory oil field and others.
Illegal Arrest
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation
Illegally use of remote detonation bomb on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.
Lightning strike many airplanes, but did not fall from the sky. Lightning strike out side of airplane and discharge electricity to ground.
Source: Lightning, Discovery Channel
Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
Oppression
Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Veitnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters.
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
Abuse of Power
Abuse the Laws
Abuse the National Election Committee
Abuse the National Assembly
Violate the Laws
Violate the Constitution
Violate the Paris Accords
Impunity
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Death in custody.
Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.
Our country Cambodia needed our love.
Only blaming the Cambodian government or the Cambodia society will also not help the developing of our country.
Please learn from Mrs. Mu Sochua. In-spite many problems and difficulties, she still stay in our country because she really love our country. Maybe Cambodia already has some democracy, otherwise she will not able to live there.
Please remembered "Democracy" is a very nice word, but to achieve is not easy, we all need to be patience and a lot of sacrifices from all of us.
Hun Sen has also allowed Khmer-US citizens to be apart of his government. There are many in high positions including Ministers. This is hardly an anti-American attitude.
It is the US that has had a very cautious approach towards helping the RGC after 79, except some grants to the Ministry of Health. The US realizes the strategic importance of Cambodia and its role in anti-terrorism. Aside from the old used army trucks that the US now says they won't send because they needed to make a statement, other programs will continue- including the 5M for the KR trial.
The truth is the border dispute with thailand that let the US to stop shipping military equipment to Cambodia on the complaint from the thais. You guys in America should protest in front of the WH asking the US to help Cambodia instead.
Cambodia is a land of repeated tragic history. It embodies a never ending destructive cycle of repeating paralleled sets of events that leads to similar grim endings.
In the 1960, America is still a racist country where white and black people live in segregation!
King Sihanouk saw that and the white European will never look favorable on him as color people and base on his personal experience on his diplomatic trip to America he wasn't treated as a statesman and King Sihanouk took this personally that is why most of King Sihanouk ’s speech at the UN were anti-American government! But at the same time King Sihanouk felt to the need to keep Cambodia out of the Vietnam War by claiming neutrality but because the external pressure from China, US, Vietnam, Thailand...were so great that Cambodia just collapse!
If Cambodia to have war and who or what country will benefit from the chaos, the destruction, and the killing? Nobody! The ASEAN will stand to loose...Thailand, Vietnam will stand to loose more!
There are always disagreements among countries because due to different interest but countries can work together where they have the common interest! The war over ideology is outdated and the new war is the economic war!
Needless to say, I would rather be the dog of U.S than the dog of Youn.
To 8:59AM
You have such a low self-esteem to want to be a dog of someone! But being a dog is not that easy either because the owner will tell to when to sleep, when to eat, and when to shit!
Why not train yourself to be a butler of someone! ahahhahah
Khmer gov't needs to learn to stand on its own two feet without outsiders influences. this means, zero tolerant to outsiders dictatorships. Khmer gov't needs to say "we are no body's allied, we have no favour for any party, we only focus on what needs to be done for our khmer nation and its country, which at the same time we would welcome those who wants to make business with us, it does mater what nation they come from. This is the 21st century and we came along way and we learnt alot from our past experienced which indicated that being with USA or Chiness can only make things more worst if not better off. So, we no longer being the "poppets". we are like every other nation which needs to be respected. We are a country that has a boundary and its belonging, So, we wish for the international group either help us build a better world or to live us alone. And again this is the 21st century, we need to move into the world of peace in order for the benefit for us live in a happy environment and hopefully be able to share the view of the"seven wonders" and prosperity for all. Aust
Correction: doesn't matter....
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