Sunday, May 23, 2010

Some Thais couldn't fathom that their own soldiers shot their own people

Thai soldiers charge and shoot in the air, in the direction of Thai supporter of exiled Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra (not in photo), in Bangkok on April 13. Thai troops fired warning shots and tear gas in clashes with petrol bomb-hurling protesters in Bangkok Monday, leaving 70 injured as the government launched a crackdown to enforce a state of emergency. AFP / Getty Images / Nicolas Asfouri

Cambodians and Burmese

Thursday, 20 May 2010
Originally posted at http://thailandtrouble.blogspot.com/2010/05/cambodians-and-burmese.html

Cambodian mercenaries were manning army positions protesters told me at Bon Kai and Din Daeng during the afternoon on 18 May. The only evidence they could offer was that some of the troops they had tried to talk to could not speak Thai. A young woman, who was still selling drinks outside the Erawan Hotel while her baby perhaps just a year old lay sleeping on the ground as the army was advancing up Ratchaprasong, called from within the refuge of Wat Pathumwanaram to tell me it was too dangerous to outside as there were Burmese troops. Later when I reached Siam Square, where there had apparently been fighting between armed civilians and troops I only met Thai infantry.

Could the government find enough Burmese or Cambodian mercenaries, put them in Thai uniforms and train them with Thai weapons at short notice? What benefits might there be other than increasing numbers of dependable troops in light of rumours of many junior soldiers being red?

Or might it be that these rumours are without substance but spread and are believed because they relieve people of having to accept that they are facing, and being shot by, soldiers who like themselves are Thai? Some may be comforted if it is Burmese or Cambodians who are there to impose the state's will and defend its interests because of the generally negative stereotypes attached to these nationalities?

Not dissimilar is the disagreement and even mystery over the identities of a handful of civilians with rifles who it seems fought with troops in and around Siam Square. I got no closer than eight, maybe six, feet to one man with an M16 for just a few minutes. It was not possible to talk. Some protesters say these men are Red, a proto-militia perhaps, but one protester insisted their identity and motives were a mystery. But what could motivate a small group of men other than anger, belief or vengeance to fight against the much greater numbers of the army when their only advantage may have been intimate knowledge of the urban terrain? On the other hand it may not matter because that they were there and fighting troops makes for common cause with people of the Red movement, whether they of the mind to pursue their demands by peace or through force. Thus their exploits may enter into Red mythology. Are these men drawn from the same group of men-in-black caught on film on 10 April? The armed man I saw was only wearing a black jacket, his jeans were blue and he wasn't wearing a hat or balaclava. Being dressed quite differently from the men-in-black may suggest he was from a different group?

There is a large black market in military weapons in Thailand. Hitmen, enforcers and mercenaries are apparently relatively common livelihoods. It may not be difficult for either the government, Reds or other elements to finance hired hands to do violent work. Many hands may willingly take up such duties spurred on by the intensity of feelings and the depths of division in the country. This violent backdrop, the lack of evidence, and the interests of all players to pin blame on rivals for killings forms a difficult environment for building confidence, stability and engagement but a fertile one for rumour and suspicion.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Not things different from ah Pol Pot, ah Hun Sen, regim.They're kills and shots their own people too don't be suprises. CPP were worses than Siames.

battambangnative said...

Not happy to just kill their own, they are now trying to blame Khmers and Burmese for the killing. These Thais have truly gone crazy.

Anonymous said...

I wonder why Thai Govn't let other nations killed its own people? And how these people access the border if the Thai Govn't did have good plan for this?

Anonymous said...

Now they blame the red shirts that they are Khmer empire. Why?..Is it the truth?
I believe the whole world are not crazy!

Anonymous said...

Oh come on! The Siem should stop spreading the rumor about the Burmese or the Cambodian about killing those Red-Shirt protesters!

These stupid Siem people should blame their stupid Thai King instead because the Red-Shirt had declared publicly that no can help them except the Thai King! So what did the Thai King do? Well! The Thai King did nothing to help the Red-Shirt protesters and he allowed the Siem military thugs to move in to kill and to crush the Red-Shirt leaders and the followers!

Anonymous said...

That `s bullshits!,i don`t believe this thai propaganda.Does the thai`s government allow any foreigner joint their armies to kill their own peoples????.You!,THAI!,don`t put the blame on somebodies else!,if you fuck up with your own bullshits!!!!???@#!%&@#.Who`s going to believe your crap!!!.I don`t think so!,your king would accept that??.If he does,i would apply a job to become one of them,in order to assasinate vidjajiva.You `re now murderers,bloodies shits and the fucking up one in this world!,being confessed for your own sake,do not using the bloodshed and painting on someone else!!!.Only your babies SIAMESE are believing in your dirties mind.Go to hell!,burn in hell!,the king of death`s going to punish you soon!,scum,silly,stupidity,moron,insane and your government`s out of their mind!.























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Anonymous said...

This is what the Siam is good at, pointing fingers. AbhiSHIT and the useless King is trying to wash their bloody hands.

Anonymous said...

now siam playing the blame game the troop not siam but burmese or cambodia eiher way it still more cruelty to use forener to kill your own people.bhumibol idea?

Anonymous said...

Stupid Thais Gov't will blame Vietnam too..? fucken Thailand blamed everybody: Lao, Burma, Cambodia, Vietnam...

Anonymous said...

Maybe Lao,Burma, Cambodia and Vietname need to take Thais Gov't to international court for accusations!

Anonymous said...

Lets assume Burmese and Cambodian mercenaries were hired. Who hired them? A Thai person? who gave them the order to shoot? A Thai person?

What does Cambodia and Burma have to do with this? more of Thailand's excuses.