By Seth Mydans
New York Times
PHNOM PENH, Cambodia — For 30 years since the brutal Khmer Rouge regime was driven from power, Cambodians have lived with unresolved trauma, with skulls and bones from some killing fields still lying in the open and with parents hiding the pain of their past from their children.
Monday, Cambodia took a significant step toward addressing its harsh past with the first conviction of a major Khmer Rouge figure in connection with the deaths of 1.7 million people from 1975 to 1979.
But some survivors were distraught over what they saw as a lenient sentence, one that could allow the defendant — Kaing Guek Eav, 67, the commandant of the central Khmer Rouge prison and torture house — to possibly walk free one day, despite being convicted of war crimes and crimes against humanity for overseeing the torture and killing of more than 14,000 people.
A U.N.-backed court sentenced the commandant, known as Duch, to 35 years in prison, a term that was reduced to 19 years because of time already served and in compensation for a period of illegal military detention. His term could be reduced for good behavior.
One of the few survivors of Duch's prison shouted in agitation in the muddy courtyard outside the tribunal building. "I am not satisfied!" cried the survivor, Chum Mey, 79, who had testified in excruciating detail about his 12 days of torture. "We are victims two times, once in the Khmer Rouge time and now once again."
"His prison is comfortable, with air conditioning, food three times a day, fans and everything," he said. "I sat on the floor with filth and excrement all around."
It was the first time in Cambodia's modern history that a senior government official had been made accountable for serious human rights violations and the first time such a trial had been held that met international standards of justice.
The verdict took into account mitigating circumstances, which a court spokesman, Lars Olsen, said included Duch's cooperation, his admission of responsibility and limited expressions of remorse, the coercive environment of the Khmer Rouge period and the possibility of his rehabilitation.
There is no death penalty in Cambodia. Prosecutors had sought a 40-year sentence, but many people had said they would accept nothing less than a life sentence for the man who presided over the Tuol Sleng prison, where people were tortured for confessions and then trucked to killing fields.
"People lost their relatives — their wives, their husbands, their sons and daughters — and they won't be able to spend any time with any of them because they are dead now," said Nina You, 40, who works for a private development agency. "So why should he be able to get out in 19 years and spend time with his grandchildren?"
But Huy Vannak, a TV news director, said it was enough simply to have justice in a court, 30 years after the killing stopped. No sentence could measure up to the atrocities Duch committed, he said.
"Even if we chop him up into 2 million pieces it will not bring our family members back," he said. "We have to move on now."
Others still needed more time. Sopheap Pich, 29, a sculptor, said, "Actually, I'm kind of shaking inside at the moment. I'm not sure how I should feel. I'm not happy, not sad, just kind of numb."
For its symbolism, he said, a life sentence would seem most appropriate. "To come up with a number doesn't seem to make sense," he said. "I'm not sure how you come up with a number."
Monday, Cambodia took a significant step toward addressing its harsh past with the first conviction of a major Khmer Rouge figure in connection with the deaths of 1.7 million people from 1975 to 1979.
But some survivors were distraught over what they saw as a lenient sentence, one that could allow the defendant — Kaing Guek Eav, 67, the commandant of the central Khmer Rouge prison and torture house — to possibly walk free one day, despite being convicted of war crimes and crimes against humanity for overseeing the torture and killing of more than 14,000 people.
A U.N.-backed court sentenced the commandant, known as Duch, to 35 years in prison, a term that was reduced to 19 years because of time already served and in compensation for a period of illegal military detention. His term could be reduced for good behavior.
One of the few survivors of Duch's prison shouted in agitation in the muddy courtyard outside the tribunal building. "I am not satisfied!" cried the survivor, Chum Mey, 79, who had testified in excruciating detail about his 12 days of torture. "We are victims two times, once in the Khmer Rouge time and now once again."
"His prison is comfortable, with air conditioning, food three times a day, fans and everything," he said. "I sat on the floor with filth and excrement all around."
It was the first time in Cambodia's modern history that a senior government official had been made accountable for serious human rights violations and the first time such a trial had been held that met international standards of justice.
The verdict took into account mitigating circumstances, which a court spokesman, Lars Olsen, said included Duch's cooperation, his admission of responsibility and limited expressions of remorse, the coercive environment of the Khmer Rouge period and the possibility of his rehabilitation.
There is no death penalty in Cambodia. Prosecutors had sought a 40-year sentence, but many people had said they would accept nothing less than a life sentence for the man who presided over the Tuol Sleng prison, where people were tortured for confessions and then trucked to killing fields.
"People lost their relatives — their wives, their husbands, their sons and daughters — and they won't be able to spend any time with any of them because they are dead now," said Nina You, 40, who works for a private development agency. "So why should he be able to get out in 19 years and spend time with his grandchildren?"
But Huy Vannak, a TV news director, said it was enough simply to have justice in a court, 30 years after the killing stopped. No sentence could measure up to the atrocities Duch committed, he said.
"Even if we chop him up into 2 million pieces it will not bring our family members back," he said. "We have to move on now."
Others still needed more time. Sopheap Pich, 29, a sculptor, said, "Actually, I'm kind of shaking inside at the moment. I'm not sure how I should feel. I'm not happy, not sad, just kind of numb."
For its symbolism, he said, a life sentence would seem most appropriate. "To come up with a number doesn't seem to make sense," he said. "I'm not sure how you come up with a number."
9 comments:
this is a waste of time and money to get this ridiculous outcome. all those millions can help alot of people around the world instead of thrashing in this "justice court." what a joke it is, Chun Yasith didn't kill anyone and he get life, this monster kill 16,000 people and get 19 years, a rapist get 30 years, hmmm, is this how justice serve? So i'm assuming that the next person on trial will get 10 years. what a bunch of lunatic judges on that seats! here an idea, let the victims prosecute the killers!!
Yes there has never been death penalty in Cambodia.
However:
Sihanouk put 3 dissidents on public execution by firing squad during his reign.
Pol Pot and this evil butcher tortured and slaughtered a total of nearly 2 millions Khmers and others nationality and ethnic group.
Hun Xen clique threw hand grenades into the crowd, shot labor leader and journalists, secretly and summarily executed hundreds of opposition party members.
There's no need for death penalty law for this evil and wretched land. Because it is already embedded in the mentality and practice of the ruling authority anyway.
Are these UN judges and juries trying to tell us to grin-and-bear it?
Do evil deserve more compassion than the victims? Is that the international norm?
If it is the case we do not need your vulgar laws, let us handle our own justice, it may take a little time to get these animals to pay, but we will eventually get them our style.
No more KR news, please. This can only divide us further and serves only as a distraction from more pressing problems facing us:
1) Poverty and illiteracy
2) Land grabbing
3) youns/siems invasion
The court should set DUCH free and let him walk the street of Phnom penh.I bet within 1 minute or so ,he will be torn apart by the mob.
ខ្ញុំយល់ថា៖ ការកាត់ទោសទៅលើលោកឌុជក្នុង
រវាង៣៥ឆ្នាំ គាត់បានរស់នៅក្នុងគុកអស់រយះពេល១១ឆ្នាំរួចមកហើយ ឲ្យគាត់៥ឆ្នាំទៀតដែលគាត់ បានសហការជាមួយអន្តរជាតិ ដកសារុបទៅឃើញគាត់ត្រូវនៅក្នុងគុកតែ១៩ឆ្នាំ ខ្ញុំថានេះជាជាន់ទី១ដែលមានជន់ចាប់ចោទនៅក្នុងរបបខ្មែរកមនីស្តខ្មែរក្រហមនេះឯង ប៉ុន្តែអ្នកជនដឹកនាំ និងដៃដល់នោះមានច្រើនជនទៀតកំពង់សង្ងំ ហើយកំពង់ធ្វើនយោបាយជួរមុខនៅជំនាន់ បច្ចិប្បន៏្ននេះ ម៉្លោះហើយត្រូវបន្តការកាត់ទោសទៅ ទៀត។
We should change our ticket to haven for a ticket to go to hell to meet and deal with Duch and the rest of his comrades down there.
I'm sure he won't have many friends downunder. For us we will have closer to 2 millions backers don't worry.
Will get justice our way!!!!!!
I personally think Cambodian court do better than UN-backed tribunal as far as finding justice for Cambodian victims because all Cambodian judges are victims also. They feel pain and suffering but FOREIGN JUDGES DON'T.
To 9:27 PM
I am 99% disagree with you, because "Cambodian court" or judges are 100% corrupted.
In Cambodia, criminals like Hun Sen, Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun, Sim Ka, Hok Lundy, Huy Piseth, Phan Sary, Oum Chamnane, Bon Na and Keov Vichet never ever get indict, prosecute, convict and sentence.
We even know their name.
The peoples that got sent to jail is the innocent Khmer peoples like farmers, land owners, journalists and opposition party's members/activists.
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime
Members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kang Guek Eav
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka
Hun Sen...
Committed:
Tortures
Brutality
Executions
Massacres
Mass Murder
Genocide
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Slavery
Force Labour
Overwork to Death
Human Abuses
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime
Members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
Committed:
Attempted Murders
Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
Attempted Assassinations
Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Assassinated over 80 members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Sam Rainsy LIC 31 October 2009 - Cairo, Egypt
"As of today, over eighty members of my party have been assassinated. Countless others have been injured, arrested, jailed, or forced to go into hiding or into exile."
Executions
Executed over 100 members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders
Murdered 3 Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Murdered Chea Vichea
Murdered Ros Sovannareth
Murdered Hy Vuthy
Murdered 10 Journalists
Murdered Khim Sambo
Murdered Khim Sambo's son
Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Murdered Innocent Men
Murdered Innocent Women
Murdered Innocent Children
Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Brutalities
Police Brutality Against Monks
Police Brutality Against Evictees
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
Human Abuses
Human Rights Abuses
Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Embezzlement
Treason
Border Encroachment, allow Vietnam to encroaching into Cambodia.
Signed away our territories to Vietnam; Koh Tral, almost half of our ocean territory oil field and others.
Illegal Arrest
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation
Illegally use of remote detonate bomb on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.
Lightning strike many airplanes, but did not fall from the sky. Lightning strike out side of airplane and discharge electricity to ground.
Source: Lightning, Discovery Channel
Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
Oppression
Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Vietnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters.
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
Abuse of Power
Abuse the Laws
Abuse the National Election Committee
Abuse the National Assembly
Violate the Laws
Violate the Constitution
Violate the Paris Accords
Impunity
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Death in custody.
Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.
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