Duch during one of the ECCC's hearings. Photo courtesy of the Extraordinary Chamber in the Courts of Cambodia.
29/07/2010
France24
Theary Seng was among the hundreds of people who came to Phnom Penh from all over Cambodia to see the trial of former Khmer Rouge prison chief Duch. She was numb with shock when she heard the sentence: 30 years in jail, possibly as little as 19. The thought that a man who personally tortured and murdered thousands of people could walk free at the age of 89 is too much for Seng, who lost both her parents to the Khmer Rouge.
Kaing Guek Eav, better known as Commrade Duch, was found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity on by the Extraordinary Chamber in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC) on Monday, for his personal oversight of the mass murder of 15,000 men, women and children at the S-21 prison he ran under the Khmer Rouge regime.
Initially sentenced to 35-years in jail, his sentence was reduced to 30 years on the grounds that he had been illegally detained before the tribunal was established, and could be cut another 11 years for Duch's collaboration with investigators and good behaviour.
Although government officials and the UN Special Rapporteur for human rights praised the decision, Cambodia's Foreign Minister Hor Namhong broke away from the official line and called the sentence "too light" and "unsuitable" on Thursday. Duch's lawyers have indicated he will appeal the verdict.
Four other senior Khmer Rouge officials are awaiting trial, but critics of the ECCC have expressed doubts as to whether the court will be able to withhold the challenges of future cases. Originally expected to cost $20 million dollars over a 3-year period, the court has already spent $70 million dollars since 2006, and convicted only one suspect.
"Those really pulling the strings have to be brought to justice"
I fear that Cambodians, who are already very cynical about the trial process, will be so disgusted by this first verdict that will they not see the point of trying the four other Khmer Rouge leaders who are currently detained. My theory is that government, which has never supported the work of the special Khmer Rouge court, deliberately pushed for a weak verdict to feed into that cynicism and weaken victim's resolve to seek justice.
Also, by letting Duch get off easily, they are completely undermining his credibility as a key witness for future trials. People are thinking: so much time, energy and money were put into case 001, and if it didn't bring justice then what will?
We can't let that happen. We have to turn the energy from our anger into energy to push for case 002, and the ones after. It's important to remember that Duch was in charge of just one detention centre - there were 200 others, and over 1.7 million people died under the Khmer Rouge regime. Duch was not a big fish, and those really pulling the strings have to be brought to justice.
The ECCCs decisions are obviously based on political compromise between the the United Nations and the Cambodian government [the court is Cambodian-run but backed by UN and international donor funds]. We, the victims of the Khmer Rouge regime and citizens of Cambodia, are looking towards the international community to be extremely vigilant of any trace of irregularities or political interference in this difficult judicial process."
Kaing Guek Eav, better known as Commrade Duch, was found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity on by the Extraordinary Chamber in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC) on Monday, for his personal oversight of the mass murder of 15,000 men, women and children at the S-21 prison he ran under the Khmer Rouge regime.
Initially sentenced to 35-years in jail, his sentence was reduced to 30 years on the grounds that he had been illegally detained before the tribunal was established, and could be cut another 11 years for Duch's collaboration with investigators and good behaviour.
Although government officials and the UN Special Rapporteur for human rights praised the decision, Cambodia's Foreign Minister Hor Namhong broke away from the official line and called the sentence "too light" and "unsuitable" on Thursday. Duch's lawyers have indicated he will appeal the verdict.
Four other senior Khmer Rouge officials are awaiting trial, but critics of the ECCC have expressed doubts as to whether the court will be able to withhold the challenges of future cases. Originally expected to cost $20 million dollars over a 3-year period, the court has already spent $70 million dollars since 2006, and convicted only one suspect.
"We have to turn our anger into energy to push for other Khmer Rouge leaders to be brought to justice" - Theary SengTheary Seng is director of the Cambodian Center for Social Development. She escaped Cambodia and fled to the US in 1979 after both her parents were killed by the Khmer Rouge. Today she lives in Phnom Penh.
I was personally deeply, very deeply disappointed at the verdict of Duch's trial. It is utterly incomprehensible. This lenient sentence means that he will only serve 11 hours of prison for every murder he is responsible for.Yes, Duch fully cooperated with the court, and yes, I believe his remorse was genuine. Yes, he was also illegally detained for years before his trial. But those factors should have granted him a 5-year reprieve from a 100-year sentence, at most, not a 16-year reprieve from a 35-year sentence. I'm not just saying this as a former victim and the daughter of victims; I'm saying this as a US-trained lawyer. The prosecution should have asked for a much stronger sentence [it requested 40 years]. The judges should have granted the maximum sentence. Legal theorists may ho and hum and try to justify the decision, but we are not in a theoretical world. This was a real genocide, the victims and survivors alive today are very real. And they are bitterly, bitterly disappointed and angry.
"Those really pulling the strings have to be brought to justice"
I fear that Cambodians, who are already very cynical about the trial process, will be so disgusted by this first verdict that will they not see the point of trying the four other Khmer Rouge leaders who are currently detained. My theory is that government, which has never supported the work of the special Khmer Rouge court, deliberately pushed for a weak verdict to feed into that cynicism and weaken victim's resolve to seek justice.
Also, by letting Duch get off easily, they are completely undermining his credibility as a key witness for future trials. People are thinking: so much time, energy and money were put into case 001, and if it didn't bring justice then what will?
We can't let that happen. We have to turn the energy from our anger into energy to push for case 002, and the ones after. It's important to remember that Duch was in charge of just one detention centre - there were 200 others, and over 1.7 million people died under the Khmer Rouge regime. Duch was not a big fish, and those really pulling the strings have to be brought to justice.
The ECCCs decisions are obviously based on political compromise between the the United Nations and the Cambodian government [the court is Cambodian-run but backed by UN and international donor funds]. We, the victims of the Khmer Rouge regime and citizens of Cambodia, are looking towards the international community to be extremely vigilant of any trace of irregularities or political interference in this difficult judicial process."
8 comments:
when dealing with cambodia, one has to keep in mind that every khmer person had lost our loved ones to the stupid KR rule from 1975 to 1979. enough already! we have the right to be bitter about this ruling, etc...!
Why are you reversing your position so fast, Theary? I was surpised to hear you on TVK replying to reporters that it acceptable for Kaing Guek Eav to serve 19 years and you said he'll be dead before he can get out of prison. Personally, I think this ECCC circus is just a waste of energy, time and money. Kaing should have to serve at least 3 life-time prison term, menaing even if he dies in prison, his remain has to stay in prison for at least another 100 years. He's was a very bad man that no prison time is long enough to justify what he has done to those poor 16,000 innocent people.
let alone what his regime did to cambodia and 3 millions khmer vicitms, etc... shame on KR crazy people!
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Guek Eav
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka
Hun Sen...
Committed:
Tortures
Brutality
Executions
Massacres
Mass Murder
Genocide
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Slavery
Force Labour
Overwork to Death
Human Abuses
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
Committed:
Attempted Murders
Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
Attempted Assassinations
Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Assassinated over 80 members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Sam Rainsy LIC 31 October 2009 - Cairo, Egypt
"As of today, over eighty members of my party have been assassinated. Countless others have been injured, arrested, jailed, or forced to go into hiding or into exile."
Executions
Executed over 100 members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders
Murdered 3 Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Murdered Chea Vichea
Murdered Ros Sovannareth
Murdered Hy Vuthy
Murdered 10 Journalists
Murdered Khim Sambo
Murdered Khim Sambo's son
Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Murdered Innocent Men
Murdered Innocent Women
Murdered Innocent Children
Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Brutalities
Police Brutality Against Monks
Police Brutality Against Evictees
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
Human Abuses
Human Rights Abuses
Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Embezzlement
Treason
Border Encroachment, allow Vietnam to encroaching into Cambodia.
Signed away our territories to Vietnam; Koh Tral, almost half of our ocean territory oil field and others.
Illegal Arrest
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation
Illegally use of remote detonate bomb on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.
Lightning strike many airplanes, but did not fall from the sky. Lightning strike out side of airplane and discharge electricity to ground.
Source: Lightning, Discovery Channel
Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
Oppression
Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Vietnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters.
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
Abuse of Power
Abuse the Laws
Abuse the National Election Committee
Abuse the National Assembly
Violate the Laws
Violate the Constitution
Violate the Paris Accords
Impunity
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Death in custody.
Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.
Who killed 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples?
a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok
d) Khieu Samphan
e) Son Sen
f) Kaing Guek Eav
g) Ieng Sary
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) Hun Sen...
p) all of above
Source:
DC-CAM
Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is the current Khmer Rouge Regime's leader?
a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok
d) Khieu Samphan
e) Son Sen
f) Kaing Guek Eav
g) Ieng Sary
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) HUN SEN
Fact:
Pol Pot is a Khmer Rouge leader of the Democratic Kampuchea Khmer Rouge Regime.
Hun Sen was a Khmer Rouge commander of the Democratic Kampuchea Khmer Rouge Regime and now, a Khmer Rouge leader of the Cambodian People's Party Khmer Rouge Regime.
Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun and Sim Ka has been summoned by the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC).
Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison?
a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok
d) Khieu Samphan
e) Son Sen
f) Kaing Guek Eav
g) Ieng Sary
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) HOR NAMHONG
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) Hun Sen
Source:
DC-CAM
Fact:
During the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime;
There are 196 prisons.
There are 196 prison chiefs.
There are 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples killed by the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime.
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kang Guek Eav
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka
Hun Sen...
Kaing Guek Eav is a prison chief of Toul Sleng prison.
The UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC) must indict 195 other prison chiefs.
"I will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders, I rather let the court fail."
"Indict more Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders will lead the country into a civil war."
Sammaak Mirt Hun Sen
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders
Sammaak Mirt Hun Sen will no allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (EEEC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders who is responsible for killing 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples.
Sammaak Mirt Hun Sen threaten to turn Cambodia into the Killing Fields all over again.
War with whom?
War with innocent Khmer peoples without weapon?
Once a Khmer Rouge, always a Khmer Rouge.
Khmer Rouge(s) continue to kill innocent Khmer peoples.
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
"Duch (Kaing Guek Eav) 19 years sentence is too short and not fit his crimes."
Sammaak Mirt Hor Namhong
Prison Chief of Boeung Trabek prison
What's Hor Namhong trying to do is, he want the whole world to know that he is not a Khmer Rouge and a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.
Hor Namhong is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.
Source: Phnom Penh Post
Hor Namhong said to the French judge that he is not a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison, in fact members of his family was killed by Khmer Rouge(s).
Hor Namhong can lies all he want, at the end, he got summoned and will get indict, prosecute, convict and sentence.
Criminals likes to lies.
The place where criminals lies the most is inside the court room in front of the judge(s).
Hay Theary, be careful of what you are saying in public...because whatever you said...it became a public record. If you change your mind so quickly...people know...you are just blowing with the political win of Cambodia. You should take some of advice from your friends some time...because they could be right. Have your own ideas and work toward it. Just to be popular in the media is not good enough for one conviction to help rebuild the country. Make up your mind, which side of the fend you want to be on (support the govt. or against govt. - but you can't be both at the same time).
By the way, can you explain a bit more - what do you really mean "speak truth to power"...Hun Sen has power...and from his point of view he is also speaking the truth to his power...
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