Thursday, July 29, 2010

[Thai sore losers] Govt issues temple ultimatum

Thais will quit heritage body if plans are passed

29/07/2010
Bangkok Post

Thailand is threatening to resign its membership of the World Heritage Committee if it goes ahead and approves Cambodia's management plan for Preah Vihear temple.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday sent a strong message to the committee, meeting in Brazil, that approval of the plan proposed by Phnom Penh could mean the end of Thai membership of the body.

Thailand's main concern is that the plan could include part or all of a disputed 4.6 square kilometre area buffer zone claimed by the two countries.

Thai PBS television quoted Natural Resources and Environment Minister Suwit Khunkitti as saying in Brazil that the plan to manage the Hindu Khmer temple and surrounding areas included a square kilometre of the disputed land.

Mr Suwit, who heads the Thai delegation in Brasilia, told the prime minister he believed Cambodia had won the backing of several committee members for its plan.

"If the WHC takes into consideration the matter, we will veto it and would consider withdrawing as a world heritage member," the prime minister said after the cabinet meeting.

But Thailand will cooperate with the WHC if its decision on Cambodia's management plan for the temple and its surrounding areas does not affect the country's sovereignty.

The prime minister's warning came hours before the 21-member committee planned to discuss the issue. The issue was expected to go on the agenda for talks last night.

Cambodia was asked to submit the plan for approval after the Hindu temple was listed as a world heritage site by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Unesco) in 2008.

Mr Abhisit said the WHC could stop helping oversee management of Thailand's world heritage sites if Bangkok withdrew its membership.

Thailand could also lose the chance of asking the committee to inscribe new ones.

But he stressed that Thailand had to send a message to the WHC as Thailand and Cambodia have yet to demarcate the overlapping area.

If the committee endorsed the plan, it would show the panel did not respect Unesco's will in protecting cultural heritage and building peace, he said.

He also warned that approval could lead to simmering conflicts and violence between the two countries.

The People's Alliance for Democracy against Dictatorship protested in front of Unesco's Bangkok office on Tuesday. Two more protests took place yesterday, in Hat Yai district in Songkhla and Muang district in Kanchanaburi.

The Bangkok protest prompted Unesco director-general Irina Bokova to issue a statement from Brazil yesterday calling for dialogue in safeguarding the temple.

Ms Bokova said she had met the Thai and Cambodian representatives to stress the committee's mission, which was to promote heritage "with full respect and without prejudice to the sovereignty of member states or to any territorial claims".

"Protecting and enhancing our natural and cultural heritage, means building the peace, respect and solidarity which lies at the heart of Unesco's mission. It is our common responsibility to make these sites emblems of peace, dialogue and reconciliation," she said.

A senior Thai official working on the issue considered the Thai move as "serious action" which would put Unesco under pressure to drop the Cambodian plan.

"I don't think the government's decision will result in any difficulty for the country," the official said.

Adul Wichiancharoen, former president of the WHC, backed the government's decision to consider withdrawing Thailand's membership if the WHC did not delay consideration of Cambodia's management plan.

He said the move might be necessary because Unesco had apparently acted in favour of Cambodia. This included delays in releasing Cambodia's management plan, which put Thailand at a disadvantage.

Mr Adul said the government would have to justify any decision to quit by showing the international community how Cambodia's management plan would affect Thai sovereignty.

He saw no drawbacks if Thailand withdrew its WHC membership.

"We don't have to stick to the body's principles or rules if they compromise the national interest," he said.

"I don't think there will be any affect on the world heritage sites in Thailand. There is no rule saying world heritage status will be revoked if we quit."

Meanwhile, Thailand has closed the Khao Phra Viharn National Park in Si Sa Ket's Kantharalak district temporarily for safety reasons.

Theerayuth Wongpongprai, chief of the park, said the 2nd Army Region ordered him not to open the park until the security situation returned to normal.

"Although there is no sign of violence at the time being, we have been told to keep the park closed for security reasons," he said.

The park opened for public visits in April. But it was ordered to close again during the red shirt rallies, which ended in May.

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

ahbulshit is a cry baby, why siem people put him in charge? shame on siem!

Anonymous said...

Go ahead let them resign because they kept acting ignorant and a fool for claiming and sharing stuffs that doesn't belong to them.

If UNESCO listen to them that is very bad. And Cambodian doesn't really need to present anything more special because the UNESCO representative knew and studied about Cambodia and former Khmer Empire before making decision. Unlike the Thai that they stole stuffs, artifacts and lands from Cambodia. They have no proofs and evidences like Cambodia. Cambodia got them all.

Rodulfo
Brasilia, Brazil

Anonymous said...

ahbulshit, this is not the dark ages, ok! there are international law and the UN body in the world, now, ok! and respect the icj verdict, ok! cambodia don't need you and your pad thugs extremist group, ok!

Anonymous said...

maybe pad thugs are terrorist group. america will stand with cambodia against terrorist group! god bless cambodia.

Anonymous said...

One less trouble and go ahead and jump off the cliff. hehehe thai loser

Anonymous said...

As Red-Ant Said,

Take more than 100 Thailand Priminister to threat UNESCO, Preah Vihear is STIL CAMBODIAN LAND. Even this planet gone, it still belongs to Cambodia.

Shamful to himself and his nation due to he learnt from his wrong master.

Red-Ant.

Anonymous said...

the world is good and fair to cambodia compare to ah siem pad thugs! always wanted to steal from cambodia, everything! shameless ahbulshit baby face. grow up already!

Anonymous said...

remember history tells us too that when icj ruled in favor of cambodia, siem pad thugs wanted to jumb off cliff too, so , they do it again when they hear unesco rules in favor of cambodia. i told you, what else is new with siem terrorist group called pad thugs, now led by ahbulshit baby face! looks like he was just born yesterday, really!

Anonymous said...

Threat to withdraw its membership of Thailand from WHC means that its membership is NOT genuine but comtemplating in to swallow part of Cambodia.

That is why buying cambodia's artifects started way back in early 60.

Siam is still siam will full intention of continued invading Cambodia,they even try to rewrite history to mislead their new generation in order to provoke war with Cambodia.

To us is to maintain unified strength and economy with ABSOLUTE abolishing CORRUPTION.

Peasant

Anonymous said...

Extremely disappointed with Thailand in the handling of this issue. As one of the senior members of ASEAN, Thailand should act more maturely and responsibly like a civilized country that Thailand espouses to be.

Anonymous said...

Every time something goes wrong Thailand resigns, it will always resign after all, let it resign..

Anonymous said...

let fuck thai pm resign from WHc and no body care. who care fuck thai land back to you land in china and return all khmer culture and every thing thai praticing right now back to combodia. you style should be like china, look at viet cong they still praticing china culture, that is what siem should do.not steal everything from combodia and try to eliminate khme. fuck you siam, don't you shame at all.

Anonymous said...

The Thais will never stop because the Viets do not stop grabbing more lands and islands from Cambodia. The Thais say the French already left a demarcation lines between Cambodia and Vietnam, so how come the Viets continue to be successful at getting more territory from Hun Sen in the present. If the Viets can challenge the French-made border line between Cambodia and Vietnam, then to the Thais, they feel that it is perfectly fine to challenge the French-made borderline between Siam and IndoChina (Cambodia). The Thais say when the French left, the Viets were able to get more land from the Khmer, so they should be getting more land from the Khmer as well because the French are no longer around to protect the Khmer. The Thais say if the Viets can get more territory from the Khmer through war, then it is also an option for them to test the Khmer as well in order to get more land from the Khmer. Just like the French consider Cambodia its colony, just like the Viets consider Cambodia its colony, the Thais will never sit still and they continue to consider Cambodia still a colony of Thailand.

Anonymous said...

hey, this is not th dark ages, ok! your thinking is so outdated, really! you must still be in the frog well mentality, i think!

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen's military strength: 10 yeas.

Thailand's strength: 100 years.

Hun Sen's allies: Vietnam and Laos.

Thailand's allies: China and United States.

Thailand had clashed with Vietnam before but Vietnam occupied Cambodia. Thailand is as prepared as it was in the ancient past. It is always the same goal: To rid Cambodia of the Vietnamese encroachment and influences and to keep Cambodia as close to Thailand for many millenia to come. Lol.

Khmer are related to the Viets through language and possibly blood of the proto Mon-Khmer peoples in Hanoi.

Khmer are related to the Thais through culture, but not of blood.

Khmer do not want to be related to any of the Yuons or the Siems. Khmer just want to be Khmer and be left alone. Aisut to the Thais, and Du Ma to the Viets. Lol

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Anonymous said...

It is a shame, isn't it? Enough is enough for Thailand to continuing their trouble making... To live in harmony is not to shamelessly claiming something that is not yours... Please have some sense of class and maturity.

Anonymous said...

5:25 AM

“To the original just google kid=Viet agent=GOOG” who talks shit about Khmer.

GOOG, years ago you were my distant neighbor and I told you several times not to let the horses fucking your big mouth, but you did not listen to me. Now look at what has happened to you; you stutter or repeat in public 2 to 3 and sometime 4 times before you can hear yourself talking. And you think that other people were like you. No kid, you are wrong, we are not messed up like you are, ok.
Your mouth and hearing are all fucked up. Your brain is functioning at 50% capacity and it keeps on declining…. I don’t want to mention about your sight and sense of smell, they are probably FUBR = fuck up beyond recognition.
Your breath stings, but I cannot figure out the strange pungent smell. Oh, it ought to be from those horses’ cum, heh. So, do us a favor, just shut it; people can smell it for miles when you are around. Can open your mouth for me; I like to see how many teeth you have left. Oh shit there are none left, no wonder people like you to suck their cocks, because it is softer than pussies, but not me, I cannot stand the damn stench. ; )

Anonymous said...

4:27 AM,

Hun Sen became a politican more than +30 years.

How about the Oxfoot (Oxford) Ahbishit how long?

>/ 5 years.

Oh my, Hun Sen will kick him out!!

Anonymous said...

I meant Ahbishit is less than 5 years of being a politician.

Khmer Prom Den,

Anonymous said...

Thailand has been very active in international media campaign. Many foreign press quoted Thai politicians on Thailand 's stance on Preah Vihear. Where is heavy drunkard Khieu Kgnarith these days..how come Cambodia been so quiet?

I try to find a website of Preah Vihear...can anyone tell/

Anonymous said...

I hope, for once, Siem will stand up to their words and withdraw their status from the WHC. That would be interesting!!

Anonymous said...

Now the whole planet really knew how bad Thailand is, again and again Thailand never stop their ambitious and their greeds toward their neighbors country...there should be more than enough of lands that Thailand had robbed and stole from khmer empier kingdom, it's time for both people and country to live peacefully next to each other..!!Thailand must stop being a robber! drew a fake map????

Anonymous said...

Shamed on Thailand! they embarrassed themselves infront of the whole world's eyes...what a shame!! Thai King is a jackass shamed!

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Anonymous said...

4:27 am,

I agree with what you wrote that Khmer blood line possibly relate to Viet, and culture to Thai. I researched last night found that Vietnamese and Khmer language are group by linguist under Austroasiatic (Mon-Khmer sub-group) language family. Yet the the Vietnamese culture is so different because they were udner the Chinese domination for over a thousand year.

I do disagree with you that China sided with Thailand militarily.

Anonymous said...

A bunch of cry baby PADs. They should enlist in the army and volunteer to the front line when war break out. Such idiots!

I'm sure the heritage world body will mourn bitterly when Thailand leave!

Anonymous said...

Abhishit and the PAD are sour grapes, sour loosers when it come to Preah Vihear. Same 2 sides of a bad coin.

Anonymous said...

The Vietnamese and Khmer are not cousins by any standard. Language is the farthest thing you can use to compare the two civilization.


You must not believe everything white people write. they don't know everything. They make assumptions based on similarities between a few words and some grammar rules.


What do you think? Khmer and Vietnam lived intermixed since the 17th century. Why wouldn't the language flow in both way? To a simplistic researcher, he would assumed that the two language shared the same branch.


If you notice, there is a big difference between Khmer language and Vietnamese language, in it's very core fundamentals.

First of all, Khmer use no tonal stress. For example, any enunciation of the word for Mother will be mother no matter how you say it.

In Vietnamese, the same word, means many, many things, and it all depends on the tone, the ups and down of the sound. This by the way is how Thai language is, as well as Chinese language.

Don't be fool by simplistic researchers and overgeneralized studies.

They said "Vietnamese" language is similar to Khmer. There are number of "Vietnamese" language in Vietnam that are similar to Khmer. They could mean the Cham language, the Bahar language, the Kahor, Rader, Banong, and many other indigenous groups of language in this region are similar to each other. But the Kinh language of the official Vietnamese national language is no where closed to Khmer. Any researcher who saids otherwise is confused, or is misleading you.

Anonymous said...

11:42am,

Thank you for your unsimplistic comments. However, you do not have much to say why you think they are not related. All you able to do is listing the minority languages in Vietnam. Just stating the Vietnamese language has not prove or disprove the relationship.

I don't discount any research done by white/European people just because they are white. I tend to believe their research because they are unbiased and methodical. Another word I don't question their motivation.

You, on the hand, is someone I would be wary of. I don't know if your view is back up by any unbiased research or not. Many people on this site is very nationalistic to the point it blind them from seeing things objectively.