Monday, August 02, 2010

Bilateral talk with Cambodia may be held to resolve border conflict: Thai minister

August 02, 2010
Xinhua

A bilateral talk with Cambodia may be held in a bid to seek solution to the ongoing conflict over the Preah Vihear Temple, Thailand's Natural and Environment Minister Suvit Khunkitti said on Monday.

The Thai News Agency (TNA) reported that the natural and environment minister was speaking in Thailand's capital Bangkok shortly after he returned from Brazil, where he attended the annual 34th meeting of the UNESCO's World Heritage Committee (WHC).

It is expected that next month the WHC panel will present Cambodia's management plan for the 11th century Preah Vihear Temple to Thailand, Suvit said.

After obtaining the Cambodian management plan for Preah Vihear Temple, Thailand will look into details of the plan in a bid to protect the country's sovereignty, he said.

However, the Thai side will keep abiding by international laws to find the solution to the conflict, the Thai minister said.

The Thai people and concerned organizations will be informed of the development to be made on the Preah Vihear Temple, Suvit said.

During the meeting on July 29, the WHC decided to reschedule its discussion on Cambodia's management plan to its annual meeting in Bahrain in 2011.

Prior to the WHC decision to postpone its discussion, Thailand threatened to walk out of the WHC meeting if the panel considered the Cambodian plan since the Thai side had not yet looked into details of the plan, which was handed in by Cambodia to the WHC panel just shortly before the meeting.

Thailand and Cambodia have historically laid claim to the site, which is located on a mountain top on the Thai-Cambodia border. The disputed area of 4.6 square kilometers has not been demarcated.

In 1962 the International Court of Justice ruled that the Preah Vihear temple belonged to Cambodia. But, the 11th-century temple can only be easily accessed from Thailand.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is not reason such a thing that Thai's Minister have a day dream to have bilateral talks with Cambodia to resolve border conflict.Because of you abbulshit government its self never accept the fact that Preah Vihear belong to khmer.

Khmer For Khmer said...

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Anonymous said...

kaew

Anonymous said...

thailand plays a good tactic to have a negotiation to get something that is not belong to them. even a small thing they get, it is a benefit, because they are supposed to get nothing.

Anonymous said...

why nee to talk to Thais about our land?

Anonymous said...

TALK??? those she/he people NEVER agree to anything.

Anonymous said...

US Embassy
Chaktomok Hall, Phnom Penh
July 18, 2010

Presentation by Ambassador Joseph Mussomeli(1)

The Role of the U.S. in the Democratic Development and Reconstruction of Cambodia (During My Tenure in Cambodia)


Let me begin by just mentioning how delightful it is to be back in Cambodia. It is almost like coming home. If there is a nicer place in the world, with warmer and kinder people I do not know of it. I always would warn American visitors to Cambodia that this was the most dangerous country in the world because no American could come here and not fall in love with the people and the place. And then when they had to leave their hearts would be broken. And so it is for me. Being here again is refreshing, reassuring, reinvigorating.

As many of you know I have just finished a year in Afghanistan. I can think of no country paradoxically that is both more similar and more dissimilar to Cambodia than Afghanistan. Indeed, often when I would give up all hope on Afghanistan ever improving, ever being a place safe and secure for the Afghan people to live and thrive, it was always memories of Cambodia that revived and restored my hope for Afghanistan. Like Afghanistan, Cambodia went through three decades of hell. The horrors of the Khmer Rouge genocide, the invasions by foreign countries, the civil wars, the violence, the destruction, for 30 years Cambodia seemed on an endless downward spiral--and yet look at Cambodia today. True, Cambodia is still far from the ideal place we would all hope for: it is not yet a place of true justice and peace and prosperity, with a society truly focused on bettering the lives of its people and in stamping out corruption--but when you look where Cambodia once was and where it is now, it is stunning how much has improved.

And I would keep that image of Cambodia daily in my mind as I worked in Afghanistan this past year: the violence, the destruction, the poverty and overwhelming corruption. And I would say to myself daily: if Cambodia could overcome 30 years of horror and hell, so too can Afghanistan. If Cambodia can redeem itself and have a rebirth, so too any place on earth.

But let me focus now exclusively on Cambodia and where I think it progressed during my tour here and also where I see it heading. I have been asked to speak about the role of the United States in Cambodia’s Reconstruction and Democratic Development. I should honestly confess that this topic makes me somewhat uncomfortable. I find its phrasing awkward and almost embarrassing. Let me start by stating an obvious truth: the United States, and for that matter, the Europeans, the Chinese, the Vietnamese, the United Nations, the World Bank and IMF--none of these valuable friends of Cambodia ought to be the focus.

Anonymous said...

Presentation by Ambassador Joseph Mussomeli(2)

The Role of the U.S. in the Democratic Development and Reconstruction of Cambodia (During My Tenure in Cambodia)


Regarding the United States, especially, our history with Cambodia is so mixed, so complex, that our “role” is something that would require considerable finesse to delve into too deeply. I think I’d make three crucial observations. First, the proper role of all great powers, including especially the United States, as a general principle should be that of a “role model.“ That is, we ought to be influencing Cambodia’s development by way of example, rather than by way of lecturing or pontificating. I used to give the analogy to a dysfunctional family in describing our bilateral relationship to Cambodia. Like a neglectful father we would ignore Cambodia too often until it did something that we didn’t like, then we would react by just whacking the misbehaving child and then go back to ignoring it. Not enough positive reinforcement and way too much negative reinforcement. That has changed thanks to the hard, determined work of a series of ambassadors, though in Washington the inclination still is not to notice Cambodia too often unless it is to note something not going well. We should always be ready to advise and to offer counsel, but we need to be ever mindful that Cambodia, no less than the United States, is a sovereign state with all the virtues--such as dignity and autonomy--and vices--such as pride and pettiness-- that sovereignty invariably entails.

Second, just to clarify, I don’t think the USG deserves most of the credit--or most of the blame--for how Cambodia develops and has developed. This also means that Cambodia’s leaders, both government and non-government leaders, deserve much of the credit and also much of the blame for what is good and bad about Cambodia. And then there is the issue of the Cambodian people themselves. They cannot, should not, look to the US or anyone else to fix their problems. As friends we can help, but the real responsibility--the credit and the blame--is on Cambodians themselves. They must demonstrate a true thirst for freedom. A real genuine courage. Let me be blunt: it doesn’t matter how sincere or honest you are; it doesn’t matter how smart or educated or committed you are. It doesn’t even matter that you are trying to genuinely do good and improve the country. If you lack courage, it is all worthless. Societies don’t change without courage. The courage of a Ninoy Aquino to risk death for his country; the courage of a Mandela to risk imprisonment for decades for his country. Even the courage of compromise, and dialogue, and reconciliation, like a Gorbachev to risk opening a closed society. NGOs and foreign governments cannot supply this vital ingredient. Any true progress ultimately involves true risk of loss and failure and taking that risk requires courage. As the ancient Romans would say: Courage is not the only virtue, but it is the one virtue that makes all other virtues possible.

Anonymous said...

Presentation by Ambassador Joseph Mussomeli(3)

The Role of the U.S. in the Democratic Development and Reconstruction of Cambodia (During My Tenure in Cambodia)


Cambodia needs a vibrant and active neutrality. Given its history, geography and size, Cambodia must make sure that no one country dominates it. It needs to foster good relations with all its neighbors as well s with all the larger world powers. The freedom and the security of Cambodia depends on a careful balancing. One of my favorite Cambodians likes to say that he prefers friends who help Cambodia with “no strings attached.” I like those kind of friends too--but they don’t really exist. Everyone has an agenda; every nation has interests it wants to advance and protect. The strings attached for neighboring countries like Thailand and Vietnam may be to have secure borders with clearly delineated and demarcated lines. For other countries like China or certain European states the strings attached may be more access to Cambodia’s natural resources or commercial markets. For yet other European countries and certainly the United States, the strings attached have been and will continue to be democracy and justice. Or to put it in more human terms: our attitude and commitment to the government of Cambodia is inextricably linked to the Cambodian government’s commitment and attitude to its own people. To the extent the government serves the people of Cambodia, the United States is eager to engage more fully and productively.

Anonymous said...

In that situation, we can see cleary that a street PhD means nothing, Sok An is an incompetent, he is able to lost a winner case, he must be replaced from this kind of conflict, a monkey can climb a coco tree but it would never be able to talk about international laws.

Anonymous said...

PM Hun Sen must not allow Thailand jointly management plans, jointly development plans!! Thailand will take advantage within jointly listed PREAH VIHEAR TEMPLE as well! Thailand get all kind of their smart people to prepare for this battle...

Anonymous said...

The thing is when Thailand bring up 4.6km of lands to the table, we must walk away...NO negotiation! No talking period!

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen must be a monkey if he accepts to talk with Thais about PreahVihear because I will never negociate with other to share my money in my bank account..

Anonymous said...

If Sam Rainsy was in charge of that question, he would not lost this case.
Shame on you CPP, band of monkeys.
You're good to destroy democracy, destroy justice, jail Khmers who defend Khmers but you're incompetent, you are not win a winner case.
Where are your laws PhD degrees ????

Anonymous said...

If Sam Rainsy was in charge of that question, he would not lose this case.
Shame on you CPP, band of monkeys.
You're good to destroy democracy, destroy justice, jail Khmers who defend Khmers but you're incompetent, you are not able to win a winner case.
Where are your laws PhD degrees ????

Anonymous said...

I would say the same thing like post 8:17pm said!! It's very stupid and dumb if PM Hun Sen allow Thailand joint or share his bedroom within his WIFE????

Anonymous said...

Thailand has no RIGHT to joint with preah vihear management plans period! I don't think cambodian government too dumb or too stupid to allow Thailand jointy listed with cambodian management plans..? it's like you allow people share your bank account, spending your money? i don't think PM Hun Sen that stupidity..??

Anonymous said...

Folks, abhishit jevava dog try to win publics supports so, he could stay in the office longer, otherwise Thai people curse at him and demanding him to step down...Abhishit Gov't is in trouble today! too many Thais people are dying everyday at Pattani, Yala, because they were abused and mistreated by Thai Gov't!! Abhishit try to hang on to the branch...as musch as he could today? but Thais people do not budge, they had enough with Abhishit Govts!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

i believe the so called 4.6 sq. areas was properly demarcate according the map of 1907 which an internationally recognized map. now, how is siem going to properly demarcate this area again when they do not use same map as cambodia? the real issue is siem violated and disrespect the international law, period! and any bilateral talk from now on should focus only on this so called dispute areas only, and stop mention or interfere with cambodia's preah vihear temple's agenda, ok! and siem demand of using watershed doesn't apply to this areas of preah vihear temple surrounding, ok, because cambodia do not want to get our accessway to preah vihear blocked off by siem's illegal claim, ok! and tell your biased/ignorant media to stop telling us about 4.6 areas is not marked or that only accessway is from thailand or whatever because this is the issue if you keep saying it without regards to the international treaty and its map. and don't say that the date is old or map is old or whatever, it doesn't matter, it was the treaty and the law. law don't change, period, it could only be amended! if thailand or siem can't understand that, then it is a violation of the international law, period. that's it! america the policeman of the world should start telling or reminding siem about this serious violation of the law, really! stop being ignorant and greedy, siem, because cambodia and the world doesn't operate like during the dark ages era anymore, ok!

Anonymous said...

Thailand sending troops to preah vihear just to showing off! Abhishit Govts just wanted to please Thais people only? Actually, they are so scare, probably peeing in their pants! pissing in their pants the same time?, they not gonna fight with khmer rouge army..? they fucken scared KHMER ARMY VARMAN WARRIOR!!!!

Anonymous said...

Thai thieves peed and pooped in their pants already when bomb blast in Thai thief land.

Anonymous said...

Easily access from Thai side does not mean it is in Thailand; and Thailand has no right to continue to trouble making for Cambodia if it wants to be a friendly neighbor... Thailand's behavior is more like a mad-dog jealousy and political.

Anonymous said...

Since Hun Sen was a Khmer Rouge commander, now a Khmer Rouge leader and had many of his political opponents and journalists assassinated, I wonder if he have any plan to assassinate the Thai Prime Minister (Ahbullshit Vejjajiva)?

Anonymous said...

shame on siem for wanting to talk bilateral benefit before they can even use the right map to demarcate the borderline in accordance to international treaty of 1904/1907. shame, shame, shame!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Just say no to bilateral talk with the Siem thugs! What belong to Cambodia will belong to Cambodia and Cambodian have the right to preserve and manage Prea Vihear temple as they see fit!

No negotiation on Cambodian sovereignty!