Cambodian children refugees in Thai camps in the 80sThursday, August 12, 2010
Opinion by Anonymous KI-Media Reader
In response to the following question raised by a Cambodian youth: “How can you say they can’t do it if you never offer them the chance to show their potential?” in an article published by VOA Khmer Service, an anonymous Reader of KI-Media offers the wise advise below. We sincerely thank this reader for sharing his valuable experience and advise.
“How can you say they can’t do it if you never offer them the chance to show their potential?”
True. BUT, you can't simply wait for someone to give you that chance. You got to work hard to earn it. The main problem with a lot of people, young and old, is that they think they deserve a good office job or good pay etc, and they're not willing to start from the bottom. Because of that attitude, they end up hurting themselves.
When I first came to the West and was studying at high school, I had to work in the farms picking up tomato, potato, etc because I don't have any experience to put on my resume to get a job in the city. I left at 5:30AM in the morning and got back home around 8:30PM at night. That was my Summer jobs. I did that for two years, then I got a job at a Japanese restaurant as a dishwasher the year after. With these experiences, I applied and got a job at a school warehouse packaging and shipping school supply a year later. The year after that I got a job as a sale person at a car accessory store.
... After so many jobs like that, I finally landed on a job as a junior engineer at a high tech firm when I graduated from college... and I have been with the same company since. The people who interviewed and hired me said they hired me because I was a hard working person by looking at what/where I worked in the previous years. That 's why they gave me a chance, i.e. hired me.
I'm not the only one. In fact, many Khmers who came to the West in the 80's have gone through similar situation. We worked very hard from the very bottom of the society.
So my message to all youngsters is the following: Have a positive attitude and keeping working hard, you will succeed. Don't sit and wait for someone to give you a chance. Go out and work to earn it!
“How can you say they can’t do it if you never offer them the chance to show their potential?”
True. BUT, you can't simply wait for someone to give you that chance. You got to work hard to earn it. The main problem with a lot of people, young and old, is that they think they deserve a good office job or good pay etc, and they're not willing to start from the bottom. Because of that attitude, they end up hurting themselves.
When I first came to the West and was studying at high school, I had to work in the farms picking up tomato, potato, etc because I don't have any experience to put on my resume to get a job in the city. I left at 5:30AM in the morning and got back home around 8:30PM at night. That was my Summer jobs. I did that for two years, then I got a job at a Japanese restaurant as a dishwasher the year after. With these experiences, I applied and got a job at a school warehouse packaging and shipping school supply a year later. The year after that I got a job as a sale person at a car accessory store.
... After so many jobs like that, I finally landed on a job as a junior engineer at a high tech firm when I graduated from college... and I have been with the same company since. The people who interviewed and hired me said they hired me because I was a hard working person by looking at what/where I worked in the previous years. That 's why they gave me a chance, i.e. hired me.
I'm not the only one. In fact, many Khmers who came to the West in the 80's have gone through similar situation. We worked very hard from the very bottom of the society.
So my message to all youngsters is the following: Have a positive attitude and keeping working hard, you will succeed. Don't sit and wait for someone to give you a chance. Go out and work to earn it!
83 comments:
that is a very good advice. my sponsor told me this when i first arrive in the US. She said "never sit and wait,you have to get out there and earn it." this phrase has changed me since.
children are the future of cambodia. please treat them all well. god bless.
Try it in Cambodia and work for Youn plantation and see how far can you go!
Or hang out in the bar breake some body head or do ilegal work and put on resume to joint HS bodyguard unit! **** Hok Landy????
I love the picture. It remind me the old memory. I look just like any of those girls in the picture. That is the moutain of Kho I Dang. I saw it every day in the the '80. I even claimed on it several time to find woods.
My American god mother had some
Thai friends in Bangkok. She asked them to take her to see how i live and what the camp condition. Thais said do not go there. It is very dangerous. She was very persisten, so they had two Thai soldiers escorted her all the way to the camp. She took some kid pictures and some roaster pictures. As a child, i always like to put my leg on a pillow at night. So when she camp back to America, she brought me a big pillow. I laughed so much when i saw a pillow for my christmas present. Silly kid. It was like three feet long and i did not know how she carry it around. I never use it and it end up in the garage sale. Now i wish i kept it for memory and love from mom.
Good advice wrong place and forget his sponsor and American gave him a chance! Brave man should start alone from Koa Idang!
……..“You showed up here as a tiny infant capable of an infinite number of potentialities. Many of your choices remain unexplored because of a hopefully well-intentioned conditioning program designed to make you fit the culture of your caretakers. You probably had next to no opportunity to disagree with the cultural and societal arrangements made for your life.
There may have been some adults who encouraged you to have an open mind, but if you’re honest with yourself, you know that your philosophy of life, your religious beliefs, your manner of dress, and your language are a function of what your tribe (and its heritage) determined was right for you. If you made any fuss about going against this preordained conditioning, you probably heard even stronger voices insisting that you get back in line and do things the way they have “always been done.” Fitting in superseded having a mind that was open to new ideas.
In today’s overpopulated world, we simply cannot continue to live with those old styles of closed mindedness. I urge you to open your mind to all possibilities, to resist any efforts to be pigeonholed, and to refuse to allow pessimism into your consciousness. Having a mind that is open to everything and attached to nothing seems to me to be one of the most basic principles that you can adopt to contribute to individual and world peace.”
10:46am,
Are you jealous because Thailand could never provide you this type of opportunity?
If your country is not run by a few loud mouth, Thailand could be better off.
These are our future generation, without them, we will have nothing left. Khmer gov't needs to protect our future generation by giving them enought foods, shelter, blankets and most of all giving free education just like in Aust. At the moment 95% of Aust are educated, it is compulsory to go to school until they are 18s and then off to Uni another 3-4 years degree of chosen field depending on their dream career choices. Total 18-4=22 out with a professional qualification. Educated people tend to know what to do and how to live their lives well.e.g. being independent, knowledge of wisdom like always being happy as a person as well as having a sense of value and digity.So, be smarter by giving our kids the true wisdom of life through learning and understanding of being existed. Aust
correction: 18+4=22
Aust.
I was about the same in one of the boys in the picture.
Went to the US in 1981, earned my degree, had an 18 yrs. career.
Have opportunity to bring my families to visit Thailand many times. I often said to myself, "I came through Thailand the first time as a poor refugee, now came back as feeling like a millionaire compare millions of Thais."
Folks, NO Asian countries I know of can provide this type of opportunity.
Yes indeed, God bless the USA.
11:01am! I might be Thai! but I want the proud guy who have second (3rd chance if count Thailand)chance in America use his brain and not to look down to unfortunate kids in stung Mean Chey!
USE your brain and compassion! fools!!!!
May lightning strike the evils!!!
11:11AM! But how Cambodia copare to Thai, Malaisia , Indonesia, Philipine, Saigapor, interm of opportunity nfor leurning!
We are not Communist like the fucking Vietname I suppose!
HE NEVER GIVE YOUNG PEOPLE A CHANCE OR LEAD UNTIL SOMEBODY KILL HUN SEN OR GET RID OF HUN SEN. REMEMBER HE HAS A SON TO REPLACE ALREADY.
KHMER MUST TO STAND UP AND DON'T WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO DO FOR YOU. RISE UP NOW FROM INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
Hahaha. I was one of those Khmer kids back in those days. Hahahah. I was there. Khao I Dang Khmer refugee to the fullest. However, I am an old man now. Lol. Wow the 80's, the 90's and 2000's. Wow. 30years ago. My life has turned out pretty good for a former refugee kid. Hahaha.
Yes is good for me too! I wonder what would a poor kid like me would become if I was back into Cambodia?????
BUT to think our coutry as one identity we as a nation should start doing some thing for free ouself and help our country!
11:16am,
Cambodian Americans never look down on our people back in Cambodia.
How can we? We are the same people.
The only difference is we had the opportunity to live in a country that provide good and fair opportunities to make a better life. Cambodian American do not feel like we are superior to Khmer in Cambodia.
For your information my Cambodian American community have joined hand to help children in Cambodia for over at decade.
11:47AM! good deed! try to speak up for their opportunity and freedome too! They growup and can not be feed by you forever!
yes, i too love america, my beloved second home after cambodia. let's help to educate our khmer brothers and sisters about our beloved america and the wonderful american people who helped khmer people during time of crisis like this picture shows. america will always be my second home. god bless the USA and cambodia.
WHERE CAN YOU GO WHAT CA YOU DO BESIDE COLLECTING CANS????
I was one too, just like in this picture, I'm now pretty old as well,I used to work in cherry, strawberry farm, factory for 10 years, completed a degree, having a few kids,cats,dog, nice home and cars but never once forget about our beloved homeland. Every time when I see soooo much food on the table, I'd cry because I used to have almost nothing to eat after Pol Pot regime. Thanks to Australian, they save my family lives. Aust is now my real home as I live here almost all of my life already, so yeah, please be kind to them, if you see them, bros and sis, they are good people. They gave us free education and a welfare system to help the poor. Khmer gov't should learn from their system. It is a very fair system, like taking from the rich and give it to the poor. Mmm Aust
11:51 AM, Fair enough.
I do believe Cambodia now has plenty of speakers already. I feel if I speak I would only add to the unnecessary noise.
I believe with all my heart, what Cambodia truly needs is a moral and spiritual transformation from within.
Cambodia's history is full of sorrow and deep pain. The emotional, psychological scar is still there in society. This is like trying to run forward with a 200 lb. of stone tied to your ankle. This is what it is like trying to develop economically but ignore corruption. It is impossible.
We can point finger at those who we believe are corrupt. The deeper issue is these corrupt individuals are people whose view of the world have been molded by the belief system of their society.
That is why I believe only spiritual transformation can bring lasting changes to Cambodia in a positive way.
That spiritual transformation can only come about through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
I know some of my Buddhist Cambodian brothers will curse me for this, but that is alright.
Only a personal relationship with Jesus Christ can bring about a moral transformation needed to change society into a right direction.
For example, if Hun Sen have God in his heart and fear God Hun Sen's current policy would probably changed.
So when I speak up for Cambodians, I don't speak to human or institutions, but I speak to God in prayer to change the heart of my fellow countrymen to bring about that spiritual transformation, in turn change society.
12:33PM! AUST IS NOT A COMMUNIST COUTRY THEY ARE NOT TAKING FROM
THE RICH AND GIVE TO THE POOR!
THEY JUST HAVE HUMAN COMPASSION, LAWS AND JUSTICE, AND NOT CORRUPTED TO THE BORN LIKE AH HUN XEN!
12:36pm! IF YOU SPEAK UP JUST LIKE YOU WRITE UP LIKE NOW IT MAY HELP CHANGE HUN SEN TO BE A GOOD MAN OF YOUR GOD BY NOW!
BUT YOU WAS SO BUSSY SPEAK QUITLY TO YOUR GOD WHO MAY BUSSY WITH MILLIONS OF OTHER STUPID PERSON LIKE YOU!
if you really want to help cambodia, reform our tax system. you know, in america, the irs is the tax collectors for the US gov't. with taxes, everything goes back to gov't, in return, gov't can use the tax funds to help the country, the armed forces, etc... i think cambodia should enforce and put into good use the tax system. yes, reform it big time!
12:46PM,
The god you are referring to is the god of your imagination, who come to serve you, answer you at the right time, change things to please you and comfort. You are looking for a god to do everything to your own liking. I don't think this god exits.
I'm sorry to disappoint you. But the real God, the One True God who creates everything including you He does not operate according to your imagination.
He has his own time, His own way of of doing things. His will, timing, intention is perfect. This creator God does not exist just to please you. One thing is sure He loves you though you absolutely ignorant of who he is.
Khmer kids are our Khmer future. Each Khmer parent must take good care our kids.They are our next generation to come.Kids! Please work hard,study hard for yourself,your life,and your future. Please learn to listen,love,care,respect,help, forgive, and forget each other or one another.Your parents and I want you to be strong in mental,verbal,physical,and moral in your life to help our country.May gods bless all of Khmer kids.
12:39pm you missunderstood my point, so go to hell. Go back and read the sentenses carefully before you miss-interpret the common sense! I did not say Aust is a commumist country but it is refferring to a welfare system which is also recieved from the tax payer which also imply to taking from the rich and gives to the poor, gee, Lol. Aust
1-Any God would come and help you when you first help yourself.
2-If the government and the ruling political party have transparency to uphold with the implementation of the constitution,jurisdiction, social justice and moral conduct; that would be a very good start for the children future and their parents as well.
3-How can the Cambodian's children be better off when the whole system are ruled by the corrupted Hun Sen government and the CPP under Hanoi supervision?
4-It's out of question to apply your experiences when you started to build your life in the US where there are different rules of law being applied to protect human rights, although exploitations were inevitable.
Look at the children who live on the rubbish field being survived by the trashes, do you think they don't work hard enough from 4-5 years of age to engage with such commitment? and if they can't afford to go to school is it their choice?
Look at the young garment factory workers and the way they have been treated and exploited? Don't they deserve better?
oh, mount Khao I Dang. an ever back drop of existence for many of us. many memories, tears, and joy. started out as tiny refugee and now a professional with 16 year career and an advanced degree. yes, these fruits were borned out of shear tenacity and determination. and indeed a chance was given to me. i was able to go school to learn. i am able to work and continue to further my career. i am able to enjoy life without resorting to corruption or threatening anybody. yes, i grapped the chance and made something for myself. oh, by the way i did not have to believe in Jesus just respecting the laws of the land. i
People are born to be different with physical and intellectual abilities.
There are many who struggled to build their lives to a standard dream which is a norm of the social preference. Some are successful some aren't because they have various strength to face challenges they may experienced. There are many reasons for those who fail, because they just don't have the key elements like those who successfully achieve their goals. We live in a very complex world and a dominant society which has a tendency to recognize wealth and materials as the source of success and happiness. it's all up to us to judge, but once when we experience the unexpected change and hardship only then we begin to realize how wrong we were before.
4:43PM,
Rebuttal to your points:
#1 - If God comes to help you after you first help yourself, then why do you need God? No one needs God in life if he/she can take life by the horns and is capable to take care of oneself. The True God helps those who cannot help themselves.
The statement, "God helps those who help themselves" is the most illogical statement I often hear people make all the time.
Your #2 point - The key word there is "IF". "IF" Cambodian have less corruption, then such and such positive thing would take place. "IF" Cambodians gov't officials respect law and justice, then....
Cambodia is a country that has stuck with the word "IF" too long and she is not going anywhere any time soon. That's a fact!
I make a prediction, the Cambodian officials are not, and will not change their corrupted ways any time soon. Corruption is too enticing, too self serving, and too lucrative to give up. You can say "IF" all you want, but it is just a wishful thinking. That's a fact!
The sad fact is Cambodia cannot help herself any time soon, counter your #1 point.
I say again, Cambodians need moral and spiritual transformation in order to break the vicious cycle of corruption. Corruption is too deeply ingrain in the culture.
I am a Christian, that's why I pray for Cambodians!
5:15pm, yes pray to your heart content just don't try to preach us.
5:00pm
Good for you that you're able to make something of yourself and successful.
Believing Jesus does NOt = success.
Any average person with determination, discipline, and willing to work hard can have a measure of success in life.
Believing in Jesus does bring the quality of life which includes, contentment, purpose for living as well as understanding of justice, and a hatred for injustices and corruptions in society.
I don't know if monetary and educational success can bring about those things above. If monetary success can truly bring contentment in life, then we would never have rich people committing suicide would we?
5:18PM,
You can choose to call it preaching, but I'm just sharing my thoughts just like anyone from a Christian perspective about Cambodian society.
Perhaps the mentioning of the name Jesus make some people here more uncomfortable and the the name Buddha. You may want to search more why that is.
5:15 PM
Your #2 point - The key word there is "IF". "IF" Cambodian have less corruption, then such and such positive thing would take place. "IF" Cambodians gov't officials respect law and justice, then....
What I mean here is that Cambodian people especially young people and children who are disadvantage, they have been deprived to strive for their living achievement. This because of the bad governance they are living with, so they have had no chance to excel to their full potential. They haven't been given the opportunity to exercise their abilities, but instead they're being utilized as a political tools for the government's campaign with land concession or conscription etc...
It doesn't mean they aren't working hard enough in their life.
No matter how hard you pray for Cambodia, it's not going to change soon either.
Can I please ask everyone who post comments here to keep your religious faith aside. Being a Christian, Buddhist, Muslim or Catholic etc... does not make anyone better than the other. It is our ideas, principle, philosophy and knowledge that we can share and put together towards a change amongst us in the forum before we can further change the country or the world.
6:15PM,
Thanks for clarifying.
You point is well taken.
Religious conviction plays a very big role in society, and in politic.
It is through religious conviction of what is right and wrong that will influence public policies, shape social welfare, enact laws that promote fairness, etc..
If you think religious conviction, or lack there of, has no place in society or politic you are very shortsighted. For example, in the US, one of the hottest issues is the right to abortion, whether it should be legal or illegal. A person's moral convictions play a big role how he/she determines abortion's legality.
7:16pm, you are full of it. for that very concern about the overwhelme religion influence, that is why founding fathers of the usa committed to the separation of the church and state.
Religion, politicle and personal isuues are very sensitve issues. People either love it or defending it notoriusly. peace!
Very good point to us as a Asian country, who's came here from a war thorn region with nothing. You go to have a heart and be better. You have a very good chance at becoming great.
I agree with some comments above. It is both, “don’t sit and wait for a chance” and “the environment you are in”. For instant, in the US, Canada, Australia, ect, you can get out and explore your chances and opportunities. I know many people have succeeded in their lives. However, in Cambodia, there are not many opportunities. Having said this, I don’t mean to discourage those young generation. Although there are not many opportunities, but if one works hard, one will still have a better future. In general, when one has a realistic dream (goal) and working hard to chase his dream, one seems to be success in life.
In addition, opportunities and chances are available for any age. For example, I was also in the Kao I Dang refugee camp from 1985-1989 as an adult. When I left the camp to Canada, I was 24 yrs already. I did not have any relative here. I first started working in a furniture factory for two years. It was a pure labour job. At the same time, I went to night school. After two years, I earned enough credits and I applied to a university as a mature student and got admitted. Four years later, I earned my degree of computer science. As a working hard person with a positive attitude, I also got a part time job working at a front desk (ITS) at the university. After graduated, I have worked at the university since as a PeopleSoft Technical Analyst (14 years career now). With my own experiences, I just like to share that opportunities and chances are available for all ages. One must get out chasing them. Fyi, in my generation, most people ended up working as a labour job because they limited themselves not to explore their opportunities.
7:34PM,
If that were the case why does every new US president enaugarated into office had to with place one hand on the Bible?
Actually the idea of separation of church and state in the US, was meant to keep government from enacting laws to regulate the church. Early immigrants who fled Europe mainly was due to religious persecution. So the early forefathers try to prevent government from having such power in the church. See first Amendment below
US FIRST AMENDMENT: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,..."
The idea of separation of church and state has evolved into something totally different today than the early forefathers had in mind.
It was never intended to keep religion out of politic. It was supposed to keep government out of religion.
Further, the US Constitution, the highest law in the land, in the very first paragraph there is an acknowledgment of the creator God(too long for me to quote here).
The fact is the establishment of the US government, and laws, has the majority of its source in the Bible.
I can go on and on....
Please check consult your history book before making a blank statement.
God bless.
9:26pm, the laws with respect to separating the church and state should work both ways not just unidirectional. otherwise the us of a could turn into a clerical regime state like Iran. I am on a practical sense rather than on history. so Buddha's Teaching Guides and Liberates You!
9:57PM,
It is not up to you or me to decide which way to apply the law of separation of church and state.
I'm merely stating factual background how this important law came about in America.
Obviously the forefathers had good intention when enacting this law that is why the USA is where it is.
Immigrants all over the world including myself flock to it every year. God's blessing on the USA is obvious!
You don't need to be paranoid about the US turning into "clerical regime." She is becoming more and more secularized these days if that makes you happy.
God bless.
Folks - please be kind to Cambodia. Cambodians are already very divided in politics. Please don't bring religion to cause further division in the society.
12:39pm you missunderstood my point, so go to hell. Go back and read the sentenses carefully before you miss-interpret the common sense! I did not say Aust is a commumist country but it is refferring to a welfare system which is also recieved from the tax payer which also imply to taking from the rich and gives to the poor, gee, Lol. Aust
4:32 PM
TAX NOT FROM THE RICH ONLY! EVERY ONE PAY TAX BOY! (RICH OR POOR)
TRY TO ASK QUESTION FROM THE RIFG PEOPLE, STUPID! DON'T MAKE AUST SHAME ON YOU!
10:12PM,
A GOOD HEALTHY DOSE OF INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION IS GOOD FOR SHARPENING THE MINDS ABOUT ANY TOPIC.
IT IS BAD WHEN PEOPLE CURSE EACH OTHER AND INSULT EACH.
YOU NEED TO LEARN TO HAVE GOOD DISCERNMENT BETWEEN WHAT IS HEALTHY AND WHAT IS RAW SEWAGE DISCUSSION.
imagine if we all stay in cambodia, we would know anything about the free world out there, i mean the big world out there. thank god for giving many thousands of khmer people opportunity to grow, to learn to see the world from a different perspective and so on. i love america as much as i love my country of origin cambodia. god bless cambodia.
10:12pm, it has been beyond tolerant with this "god bless" at the end of comment. can they just end the comment with just nothing.
Being Buddhism, I love Christianity because they share the same values as my Buddha teaching. Christian have done so much for me personally since I first arrived in the US. For this reason, Christianity always have a place in my heart. They are people with compassion, loving, and caring just like Buddhism. Having said that, I hate "most" Cambodian Christian who was just recently introduced to Christianity. They seems to always think they are better because of their faith being Christian. They would always shuffled their belief into people throat and also look down on those who don't have the same faith. The true Christianity are those who is content with "God" in their heart, not with their tongue.
After all, America is supposedly the Land of Opportunity, where ye can achieve whatever career goals to which you aspire, but in the reality ye could not academically achieve if ye aren't having any formal education(the children of the Killingfield w/out parents as myself) and ye are old when ye are eventually arriving US.
I am share a similar experience with the author. Although his point may be one sided which khmers overseas can relate to. I have been to srok khmer. I see a lot of potential in the people. I also see a system where opportunities do not come often. Only the rich and privileged get to enjoy these benefits. There is a solution to this in my opinion. Start at the bottom and punish those that take bribes for job. Make if fair for the people that deserve the job the chance and not those that give tea money. Punish those that take the tea money as well.
3:05Am start from top or bottom?
the bottom are staving boy!
"----Perhaps the mentioning of the name Jesus make some people here more uncomfortable and the the name Buddha. You may want to search more why that is.
5:53 PM----"
NO ONE CARE WHEN YOU MENTIONED "JESUS or MOHAMET" BUT SEE WHAT YOUR GUY SAID THAT MAKE PEOPLE HATE YOU! DON"T MAKE CRISTIAN BAD BECAUSE OF YOU! FOOL!
READ 12:36 THE JUGHEAD!
That is why I believe only spiritual transformation can bring lasting changes to Cambodia in a positive way.
That spiritual transformation can only come about through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
I know some of my Buddhist Cambodian brothers will curse me for this, but that is alright.
Only a personal relationship with Jesus Christ can bring about a moral transformation needed to change society into a right direction.
For example, if Hun Sen have God in his heart and fear God Hun Sen's current policy would probably changed.
So when I speak up for Cambodians, I don't speak to human or institutions, but I speak to God in prayer to change the heart of my fellow countrymen to bring about that spiritual transformation, in turn change society.
12:36 PM---"
12:36pm! YOUR GOD CAN NOT ANSWER YOU BECAUSE HE BUSSY WITH MILLIOS OF FOOL FOLLOWERS LIKE YOU!
KEEP UP FOOL!!!!!
11:49 Why do you believe in buddhism and christianity? If you do, it means you have inner conflict about religion. First, buddhism isnt a religion; a common mistake is that most cambodians tend to think that buddhism is a religion which is definitely inaccurate; buddhism is a philosophy. Christianity, on the other hand, is a religion. It has lots of documented books written about Jesus, the genesis, and God. Perhaps you should observe the purpose of your religion that you believe in.
To that Christian commenter= you do good! The veil has been remove and you can see the True Light!
5:46am, christian commenters put their heads in the toilet bowls, now they can see the light.
5:02 am, you are a very good example of "most" Cambodian Christianity. You all are a bunch of hypocrit who seems to be good at creating hate among others. You need to stop giving bad name to other true Christianity. Because of your insecurity about your faith you have the need to pass judgement on others. It is you who need to take a closer look into the purpose of your faith. Next time when you are in church about to pray, just close your eyes NOT your heart.
Please guys,
Learn to discuss intelligently. In your argument make your case as convincing as possible. And use facts to back up your position.
Too many people in here have a victim mentality. They are too quick to complain that someone looking down on, or be little them either in religion or in politic. If you think like a victim you will always be a victim!
For goodness sake, grow up and learn to discuss intelligently. And stop whining, complaining, accusing, and cursing. It helps no one. How can Cambodian progress to anywhere if we can't get this right.
There is nothing wrong about the commentator's view on Christianity above. If you don't like his comments then state your position logically why he/she is wrong. Don't accuse him of being a hypocrite, or looking down on Buddhism. Leave out the personal attack!
If we are to stand together as Cambodians, whether we are Christian, Buddhist, or Muslims we must learn to debate, and discuss effectively making our case as logical as possible.
11:03 some motherfuckers just need to be curse and no we will not want to stand with the stupid!
BY today scient you guys may take a bastert as your GOD! can any virgine pregenced? And why you god not show up againT! wait for what, dumbo????
God not all mean relgion just fool! Religiont is not mean got to ! born again shit!
11:03am, hahaha you asked for it, you got it from people. go back and reread your statement. doesn't it sound a bit condesending to you. I doubt it. To other people, yes.
11:22AM and 11:31AM,
This is what make me fear the most about Cambodia's future.
The country is full of people like you, inability to reason or think intelligently. This is why the Yuon and Siem call Cambodians savage, full of emotion but mindless. Believe me no enemy respect or fear savage people.
The only thing you know how to express is foul language, blatant vulgar and can be proud of that.
Stop being an embarrassment to your race.
12:03PM,
It is okay to be brutally honest with people sometimes.
Yes, the truth does hurt that is why I get savage remarks. But that is okay, as long as I don't respond back in kind.
If people want to be a savage in their remarks I cannot control that. All I can control is myself.
12:07pm, from the get go everything was going fine about grabbing the chance. until some evengelist could not hold his ball back started to preach this christianity without sensitivity and foresight. please don't bring up freedom of speech stuff. freedom of speech is give and take. but this not so bright cambodian christian person tries to force feed people. again, I don't condone foul language but in this case the guy or gal got what was coming for him.
Whew, good gracious. Can we just get along? Kho I Dang is always in my mind. Pi niey mouk eye spiay boung vich mouy. ou bross bong ouy soum bong kom plach ber nao karng lic kom plach karng kert.
12:25PM Please tell "can we just get along" to the Thai breathing their threat in Preah Vihear.
The world is full of different ideas, faiths, and self interest. The are bound to clash. Wake up and smell the roses.
In here we can let different ideas clash, in politics, religions, or the status of Cambodia. We don't have to resort to personal attacks and vulgarity like middle children.
And by the way, you don't have to feel like someone force feed you their religion if all person did was expressing how he/she sees things are going in Cambodia based on his religious conviction.
The fact is many people in here are overly sensitive to any other religion but Buddhism, to the point of being radicals. It plainly comes out of their emotion like raw as sewage.
I guarantee you if someone expressing their belief in Buddhism you will never get such vulgar language.
12:47pm, two hypocrit prick, there you have it. you had the ball to implore people to get along but the next sentense you lebel people as "radical" continue to attack Buddhism. man, you might as well drink raw sewage.
12:07pm.
If someone in here mention Buddha, or quote from Buddhist teaching that person will never be guilty of forcing their religion on others.
On the other hand all it takes is for someone in here to mention Jesus, or Christianity then you will see negative reactions go off the roof.
This person will be cursed at, or accused of all sort of thing.
Please tell me which one is intolerance?
Cambodians can either stand together or we can divide along religious line.
1:00PM,
If the term radical describes you then perhaps you are one.
Sorry man, truth does hurt sometimes.
cambodian christians have a tendency to around as being more rightous than any other cambodians. that is a false belief and people dont put up for that. they tend to be hypocrit that other despite to the core. so you stop and ask yourself why?
1:09pm, is that all you can come up? I pity your brain cell growth.
1:13PM - How do you arrive at this conclusion? I hope you know at least 10 Christians before you make such statement.
Anyone can go around make generalize statement just about anything?
True Christian know they are not righteous that is why Christians put their trust in Jesus.
1:19PM - Are looking for someone to call him name and curse him so we can feel better? I'm sorry if that is what it takes to make you feel good about yourself.
1:26pm, oh, I do. as matter fact, i know almost the full church. well believe it or not you help answer the linkering question. most of cambodian christians are half baked people thus not true christians like you call it. oh, i know your kind well.
1:34PM -
I'm sorry to hear that.
I have to admit there are many "half baked" Christian running around. Sadly, I too sometimes behave like a "half baked" Christian. Good news is, God accepts those who are "half baked" and admit they are "half baked."
The fact is all the churches are full of "half baked" Christians. The only different is the the True Christians recognize they are "half baked" so they humbly depend on someone outside of themselves, namely Jesus. I'm being one of them.
I'm curious, do you consider yourselves full or "half baked?"
2:14pm, i could careless what your god do with you. just dont utter your religion in the present of others who dont care about your half baked christianity. for your question, since i never forced my religion upon you, i am not even on the grill or in the oven.
2:14PM - Fair enough.
I see you are very uneasy when challenged with the same terminology you used to describe others.
No punt intended. Have a good weekend!
2:14PM
Correction 2:37pm meant to address to 2:25pm.
2:45pm, been away and now back. you just make me laugh my head off at you. we are not even in the same league.
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