Sunday, September 12, 2010

Political Analysis Today: A Conversation Between Khmer Young & Chetrasen

For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom.

Op-Ed by Khmer Young

Dear Chetrasena;

I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism.

Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists.

Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and
Vietnam.

I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include the cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch.

The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to publicly disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement with Vietnam and Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP leadership.

KY
Chetrasen;
ky: It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who live in the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live in this Federation .The three countries have already been federated just a matter of time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand point about 80% of businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. Look at the local markets in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar Kandal and Chbar Ampeou are exclusively controlled by Vietnamese vendors. From people to people, Cambodian people in Cambodia are living are second class of citizen. Cambodian officials in every level are care of themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way you can sue Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the future . My opinion I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be that way whether you like or not. As I said couple years ago, I asked for unity from all khmers regardless of their affiliations for the sake of country survival, but they did not how to work together, they only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully aware that the serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this organization dismantled and brought this institution to the ground, the CPP will survive and strong. To destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were acting and harbouring CPP to achieve the mission.Look at now, it is very easy for CPP to subdue SRP . All of these are the hard work of CPP and Hanoi together . If you compare Yellow shirts and Red Shirts in Thailand, the yellow shirts are backed by institution Monarchy, the Red Shirts are born from the Red Thai who fought for long time to get rid off this institution that why their struggle are not supported by EU, USA and England, they are not the core of democratic movement, now they are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . You must understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and Hanoi is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands.


Khmer Young;

Firstly, we have to learn to accept the reality. In Cambodia, the reality is that CPP government has made much favor for their support, the Vietnamese who helped them to power and CPP can maintain power till today. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that Vietnam's attempt to use Khmer monarchy for their power legitimacy is successful. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that the war has made our brothers and sisters exhausted and lost and traumatic to wake up to fight against the CPP.

Like the author of Vietcamlao debated, Cambodian people are concealed by the absence of war, nationalism of Preah Vihear Sok An has tried to create, songs and entertainment, crap Buddhist institution, sky-crappers, urban sprawling, border demarcation, lasting friendship and mutual assistance in all fields, aids and investment etc. Those things are good tools for foreign and the CPP to continuously deceive Cambodian people.

We, Cambodians, have to learn the reality that the opposition parties have been used to lie the international community. Only one way that opposition should be strong is to take monarchy away from the pocket of CPP (Viet's plan) and unify with all nationalists. Opposition cannot win Vietnam or CPP by just critics or show the wrong doing to border demarcation excuse. The CPP's court system is ready to trial all dissents in order to blind Cambodian people that they are doing to strengthening the rule of laws...the rule of law for federation?

So one way that we can do is to follow the CPP's policy such as let join with the CPP to successfully create the Indochina Federation. Cambodian people and oppositions seems have to weapons to fight against this but let all together support this trend and let negotiate with Vietnam about the rules and regulations.

So what do you think?

Chetrasen;
KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another world .Majority of Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy with the CPP under leadership of Somdech Maha Akka Sena Decho Hun Sen . Whether you like or not he is the one whom everybody in the world is doing business with especially American, he will meet the US President this month . Do not forget American soldiers provided training and assisting Hun Sen soldiers more than they did during the Lon Nol .That is the new era of US policy, stability and security are the main concern of USA ..Ceding land to other country, abusing power against it citizen are not American business, they are Cambodian business, there are plenty of dictators around the world .Hun Sen rules Cambodia longer than his predecessors King Sinaouk, Lon Nol and Pol Pot combined .There is no need to blame Hanoi, for the sake of United Vietnam the countries of Lao and Cambodia must be included .Along with rapid expansion policy of Vietnam, the Ferderation will be financed by both Japanese and Korean with the help of American, EU and Australia .The new generation of Cambodian is happy with that move. For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom. The people of the three countries are freely moving from one place to another, no border no visa no restriction .Yes, there are an obstacle for the unity of the three countries too, especially among the stubborn Cambodian people who opposed the plan and being hostile to the regime, but just a small ban of subversive elements soon to be branded as terrorist group whom has no sympathy from other people. The words of insurgencies or rebellions are no longer used as this day for every ruling government.

Kind Regards,

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

First, I don't know who is Chatrasen. Second, the way you write it, I can't even tell who is saying what?
Why don't you introduce your guess and write it properly and logical. What you are doing is not good documentation. Information will be lost when you archive your kind of writing.

Anonymous said...

That a fuckup stupid political analysis, like a old age frog in a shit hole!

There are international institution and laws that American want to uphold!

THe domino theory is not in beleiving any more! See the break up of the Soviet Union, Yougoslavia, East Tumor and so on!

America try to break Tibet from China and prevent China from take over Taiwan!

Westerner now stop beleiving that peace and prosperity can achieve by let the strong group take over the small group! like the French did to Kampouchea Krom. They beleive in freedome and people in the world living under one law under the UN some day!

We have Parish Accord to protect us from the evil intention but how can we revoke it?

When we cry out and if the world let the Viet make a Indochina Federation happen then the world let the Asean andUN (UNTAC) collape that mean the end of of the UN and the New World Order that American try to achive will never realize.

Cry out! civilized world can not go back to stone age communist nor coloniallist!

Ah Kwack H un Xenyou better to stay with the free world or the ligtning would strike you in the noon time soon, it call intercontinantal missle!!!!!

Anonymous said...

":"We, Cambodians, have to learn the reality that the opposition parties have been used to lie the international community. Only one way that opposition should be strong is to take monarchy away from the pocket of CPP (Viet's plan) and unify with all nationalists. Opposition cannot win Vietnam or CPP by just critics or show the wrong doing to border demarcation excuse. The CPP's court system is ready to trial all dissents in order to blind Cambodian people that they are doing to strengthening the rule of laws...the rule of law for federation?" (SIC)

That's bullshit! Cambodia will survive if only we all stoud by rule of laws and justice! With out justice our society will die!

For the Royal if they not stoud for the justice they was pice if shit!

Don't uderestimate the knowledge and clever of the people!

Anonymous said...

ROyals have to clean themselve by stop living as parasites and do gooddeed to the people!

Protecting justice and the teritory in national level that what I mean of gooddeed not stupid cheating by giving noodle soup and krama! your royalhead!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Congratulation compatriots,

This is a good sign that we are starting to be clear about our responsibility to take part in liberate Cambodia from Hanoi.
We all have to stay focus with our common goal: to save Cambodia our motherland. Do what you can even a small thing like writing poems or write comments to fight back the Yuon slaves who pretend to be Khmer nationalist, and defend the CPP and Hun Sen's actions. Keep harassing them, tell them off... that's a good start. Never give up and listen to any deterrent saying "why don't you go to Cambodia to fight HS blah, blah...or you can only say things but can't do nothing..." Because our voices are powerful and able to convince all Khmer people to join together to liberate our country. Think of Accord the Paris, do we have them signed in PP, Cambodia? NO!!!!!!!!
This is the post MODERNISM era...
There is no guaranty yet that Hanoi is or will always be the master of Indochina. Yes, it was yesterday but not necessary today or tomorrow. Don't worry about being late as long as we all start to act now. Hanoi, the useless King and CPP+Hun Sen, they may appear to be strong and the winner but deep inside they are very fearful of people power and knowing that their days are numbered. We don't have to be physically get together but stay unite in spirit and principle and we will win. Just remember action speaks louder than words.
It's a perfect timing for us to act if we are Khmer no matter where or who you are, scream out loud to talk about our problems and our people who are suffered.

Anonymous said...

This is the post MODERNISM era...
There is no guaranty yet that Hanoi is or will always be the master of Indochina. Yes, it was yesterday but not necessary today or tomorrow. Don't worry about being late as long as we all start to act now. Hanoi, the useless King and CPP+Hun Sen, they may appear to be strong and the winner but deep inside they are very fearful of people power and knowing that their days are numbered. We don't have to be physically get together but stay unite in spirit and principle and we will win. Just remember action speaks louder than words.
It's a perfect timing for us to act if we are Khmer no matter where or who you are, scream out loud to talk about our problems and our people who are suffered.

2:11 PM

I love the idea!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I just have to laugh and I must say it is a bullshit Khmer-Youn political analysis!


It would save some Cambodian people heartache and speculation if AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave government just uphold the fucken law! I am talking about Cambodian law not some Vietcong law!

I don't care how strong the Vietcong government want to be to Cambodia, Cambodian leaders and Cambodian people but if they dare come into Cambodia and it is the Cambodian law that they are dealing with! And it is a sad reality that AH HUN SEN born to this world to be a slave to the Vietcong government! So whatever the Vietcong government want to do to him is okay!

I believe not all cooperation with the enemies such Youn and Siam are bad! For example, If Cambodia can cooperate in the field of economic and if dirt poor Cambodian can make a buck for profit and why not! Now if the cooperation to take over Cambodia and marginalized Cambodian people as second class citizen and violate Cambodian law and constitution and the enemies can expect to look into the barrel of a gun!

Just uphold the Cambodian law stupid!

Anonymous said...

Mr Chetrasena,

You said:

"Cambodian officials in every level are care of themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way you can sue Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the future . My opinion I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be that way whether you like or not. As I said couple years ago, I asked for unity from all khmers regardless of their affiliations for the sake of country survival, but they did not how to work together, they only know how to divide each other"

Your opinion and analysis doesn't support the interest of Khmer people and Cambodia. This is want you want, but not what I and most other Khmer people would have wanted. You use the logical and yesterday events, and always, and I repeat ALWAYS REMEMBER it's not up to the analysts or Hanoi, US or China... to control everything to the way they have wanted but it will depend on the tolerance level of the people who are being hungry and under oppression can sustain with the pressure they have to endure everyday. The poor people don't deserve to be punished of what they are, just because of the ill actions of the corrupted officials. It's only a matter of time that we will wake up to see some shocking news that we would not really expect to happen. Globalization concepts are not always the solution to answer the fast growing population. The recent global recession is a perfect example for the engineers and experts who create the concepts to modify and introduce other supporting theories that discourage colonization. We can't go back to the ANIMAL FARM'S DAY.

Anonymous said...

QUESTIONS:

Is this really a "Plan" to form some kind of "VietCamLao" federation?

Or is it just some fanciful idea from some anonymous individual stirring things up?

Where does this idea come from?!

Anonymous said...

3:44pm,

To anwer your question, No! This idea came from a pinhead--someone who's delusional and lacks of the understanding of the political game in Cambodia. The person doesn't even know what a federation is, and yet he/she tries to dabble in politics. He/she has no credibility as a political analyst. You can tell him/her to stick with his/her job because he/she will get fired as a political analyst someday.

Anonymous said...

Chatrasen ! It's just your own oppinion but it doesn't count and it doesn't fit the reality either .
The majority of rich people are happy with the CPP , not the poor .If the poor have a chance , they will burn the CPP down to the ground the way they have been treated by CPP but, they have no choice right now . In Cambodia , if there is full of freedom and democracy like Western World , the CPP won't servive within a short period of time. That's why CPP is afraid of the power of the people right now and they will do anything they can to shut up the people who dare to voice and reveal the CPP dirty job . If the CPP is more popular and the majority of people are happy with CPP like Chatrasen said up there , CPP don't have to be afraid of people showing their voices according to what's happening in Cambodia right now.

Anonymous said...

Chetrasen is a mather f*cker who can't even write in proper English and he is a dimwit through the way he describes his shitty thought. Actually, if he expresses his shitty thought the way he did in Cambodia, he is automatically in jail already. Doesn't he already know that a handful of Cambodian academics were cornered and got arrested by Hun Sen's cops when they chose to express their concerns that the YUONs are dominating the CPP economically and politically. So this Chetrasen is nothing but a blockhead repeating the things that the Hun Sh*t government continues to deny.

Anonymous said...

3:44PM asked:

Is this really a "Plan" to form some kind of "VietCamLao" federation?

Or is it just some fanciful idea from some anonymous individual stirring things up?

Where does this idea come from?!
=============================

******* IN PRINCIPLE,YES,IT IS INDEED...
And it is not just some fanciful idea from some anonymous individual stirring things up.

Please refer to Vietnamisation and Indochina Federation Plan, they are not fictitious but a genuine ambitious Hanoi have already achieved half of the plan. Please don't be frightened to accept as it is a fact. What we cannot accept nor approve is to allow Cambodia to become the member of the federation. Although CPP and their cronies have been working hard to lead the way for the past 30 years to amalgamate the border and population with their wicked ways; Khmer people inside and outside Cambodia have never given assent of the plan. In fact they have been forced to embrace it against their will. And that is what we still have many aspect of evidences to prove in our argument in the context of HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION. How are we going to do it? through the POSTMODERNISM principle and contextual challenges.

Anonymous said...

KY,

Be very careful!

If I were yuon, I would say exacly what that Chetrasen guy said: "My opinion I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be that way whether you like or not."

I don't want to accuse anyone without having some sort of evidence. That being said, how can we tell that Chetrasen guy is not a yuon national pretending to be Khmer.

There're lot of yuons in this forum and other Khmer blogs.

Anonymous said...

The Soviet Union fell apart because it didn't succeed , vietlaocam become a federation is just a dream , it's going to happen .

Anonymous said...

Dumb analysis of the dumb. They did just for fun.

Anonymous said...

8:59pm,
It's obvious that this chetrasen guy is a "polical analyst wannabee" but only a third of what he said was correct (not including his grammar, of course). Then, you see he BS his way through his writing. Be careful...you will see a lot more polical analyst wannabee's like mr chetrasen in here.

Anonymous said...

people seemed to assume what worked in the past will work again for them in the future. not necessarily anymore! cambodia has changed, the world has changed. the past now belongs in the history textbooks. it is ignorant to the big world around if you cling on to outdated method of the past. imagine, if the world were to operate like that, we wouldn't have airplanes, ocean ships, bullet trains, etc, etc! i think people need to change their thinking as well to fit with the many changes that taking place in cambodia and all over the world! cambodia should look or embrace new ways in order to better the life and the country in many ways! we are only weak if we allow enemies to overpower us! refuse to be the victim, the weak, the vulnerable, etc, by using the rule of law in today's society. we tasted communism and looked what happened! it is time to enlightened up and embrace the new world order, etc!

Anonymous said...

To deal with American is not just dealing with the government but dealing with individual and american people too!

American govrnment does not have absolutpower like the evil communist!

The dealing with the people was how the Viet get American pull out in 1975!

Anonymous said...

ONE,

The world gonna come to an end any time in the near future. So, Youn can keep whatever!

TWO,

If the world doesn't end any time soon. One Day, Laos, Khmer krom, and Khmer gonna put them to mercy.
NO POWER, OR AGGRESSION LASTS FOREVER.

BESIDE,

Sooner or later, HunXen gonna be take out. He is useless one way or the other. He is only good at yelling and killing khmer people.

Anonymous said...

it all boils down to psychology, the human psychology that is!

Anonymous said...

Of course, the discourse that Khmers have to realize is that "when we cannot stop the flow of strong tide, you have to follow the flow".

Chetrasen has full confidence to follow the flow and yes it is funny to encourage the government led by the CPP to disclose this plan to the Cambodian people. CPP should not keep this plan secretly.

Time and trend will tell someday!

Anonymous said...

nobody is trying to earn a college degree here. it is the idea, the concept that counts here, not so much emphasis on technological error, ok! they do that in english language school, not on the blog, ok! wake up, people! who have time for that?

Anonymous said...

Dear 10:37 PM,

History will repeat itself if we don't prevent it.

Don't blame CPP nor Hanoi, if unification Indochina will success. We are as Khmer should be blame for because we don't how to work together. We know only to blame someone for our failure.

God saves Xambodia.

Anonymous said...

Kampuchea will be part of Vietnam just like Kampuchea Krom because Kampuchea is run by idiots.

Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka aka Samak Mith Muth
Hun Sen...

Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka aka Samak Mith Muth...

Khmer Rouge Regimes are responsible for killing almost two million innocent Khmer peoples and counting.

Anonymous said...

stop the wishful thinking, ok! cambodia will never be vietnam or youn, unless people like you dreaming! if vietnam wants to be in cambodia, they all must speak khmer language and display khmer identity, etc, no exception, ok! otherwise get lost youn trash!

Anonymous said...

Ah finger sucking boy chtra xena, yuon is all over Cambodia territory, yuon pretend not to know nor to see. cpp is communist puppet party which is ah hun xen, chea xim and heng xamrin with their subordintes even the royal family. Chetra xena, your guy will face the suffering as poor Khmer people while you will be absolutely become yuon slave as you are a boy of communist puppet party (cpp). remeber this cpp abreviation is communist puppet party. Okay, ah stupid...