Monday, December 20, 2010

The KI-Media case leads to one man jailed: Khoeung Ko Veay Rotess? (Mad with the oxen, they beat the cart)


English translation is forthcoming

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sihanouk,Hun Sen,Ho Chiminh,Mao,Heng Sam Rin,Chea Sim,Hor Nam Hong,Keat Chhun,Ieng Sary,Pol Pot,Monique,Thi Rith,Kiev Samphan,Sim Ka,...etc,ARE Khmer Rouge.

Why the Judge in Cambodia didn't arrest them.And 4 142 541 illegal Vietcongs who ate good and slept very well,are they khmers?

"Words have the power to both destroy and heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world."Lord Buddha.

Anonymous said...

Please,Sihanouk tell the truth to ECCC in Phnom Penh,stop telling lie anymore.

Anonymous said...

គេធ្វើយ៉ាងនេះដើម្បីកំឡាចនឹងបំបិតមាត់ ហើយ
ខ្ញុំគិតថា​ KI មិននឹកស្មានថាវាកើតរបៀបនេះដែរ
តែអ្វីៗវាកើតទៅហើយ បញ្ហានេះច្បាស់ជាធ្លាក់
យ៉ាងទម្ងន់លើគ្រួសារគាត់ តែបើ KI ចេញមុខជួយ
នោះច្បាស់ជាគេចោតថាគាត់ធ្វើការឲ្យ ki ហើយ
ឬធ្វើការ​ឲ្យពួកប្រឆាំង នោះពួកគាត់ច្បាស់ជាពិបាកជាងនេះទៅទៀត ព្រោះគេចាត់ទុកគាត់ជាជនដ៍អាក្រក់សម្រាប់គេ
ទៅហើយនោះ លោកសេង​គាត់ធ្វើក៍មិនបានគិតថា
វានឹងកើតបែបនេះដែរ។ ខ្ញុំគិតថាពួកគាត់ច្បាស់ជាពិបាកមែនហើយៗទន្ទឹមនឹងនេះពួកគេកំពុងសប្បាយលើដំណក់ទឹកភ្នែកនៃគ្រួសារនេះដែលក្នុងបំណងបញ្ឈឺចិត្តមកកូនស្រម៉ោច KI ដែលបង្ហាញរឿងពិតនៅលើពិភពលោក។
គួឲ្យអាណិតលោកសេងដែរ ព្រោះគាត់អត់បានសរសេរមូយពាក្យទេ។
តើធ្វើរបៀបណាជួយគ្រួសារគាត់ផង?​សុំអរគុណមិត្តនាក់អាន

Anonymous said...

hahahahha, can't stop laughing!!!!
KI go!!

(but please don't kick Sihanouk and the king too much since they're protected by the constitution) ;)

Anonymous said...

ទន្ទឹមនឹងនេះពួកគេកំពុងសប្បាយក្អាកក្អាយបញ្ឈឺ
មកលើ​ខេអាយ នឹងនាក់ប្រឆាំង

Anonymous said...

តាំងពីណាពីណីមក សង្គមខ្មែរយើង
រឿងដឹកនាំសង្គមស្រុកទេសនៅលើ
តែអ្នកដឹកនាំកំពូលនិងមន្ត្រីរាជការពី
លើចុះមកក្រោម គេទាំងនោះមាន
សិទ្ធិសេរីភាពបរិបូណ៌សូម្បីឆ្កែតឿគេក៏ដែរ ឯអ្នករាជការស៊ីវិលនិង
ប្រជារាស្ត្រវិញ​មិនសូវមានសិទ្ធិ
បញ្ចេញយោបល់អ្វីសោះ ព្រោះ
ខ្មែរមានរបបពីរ គឺរាជានិយមសក្ដិ
ភូមិ និងកុម្មុយនិស្តផ្ដាច់ការ ជាស្រុកមិនមានលទ្ធិប្រជាធិ-
តេយ្យពិតប្រាកដ មានតែសំបក
មិនមានខ្លឹម មិនដូចពាក្យអ្នកដឹកនាំ
ខ្លះទៅអួតនៅអង្គការសហប្រជា-
ជាតិថា លទ្ធិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យបាន
ចាក់ឫសមាំជ្រៅនៅកម្ពុជានោះទេ។

Anonymous said...

SSHHH! IN KINGDOM OF BANANA

>.<

Anonymous said...

I don't like Pen Bunna, he's a fucking funny fool. Watch out his politics analysis! He's fucking blindly and conscientiously pro-viet.

Anonymous said...

some people laugh under eye drop of someone. Yes you can laugh what you want and time will change.You can happy but how long your happy will last and enjoint it. that you time

Anonymous said...

យើងត្រូវតែនាំគ្នានិយាយពីអំពើក្បត់ជាតិនឹងអំពើអាក្រក់
របស់មេដឹកនាំកម្ពុជា ទាំងយប់ ទាំងថ្ងៃ មានដូចជា ៖
ពួកអាឆ្កែកញ្ជះយួន ហ៊ុន សែន, ហេងសំ រិន, ជាស៊ីម,
សុខ អាន, ហោ ណាំហុង, ឱម យិនទៀង, ចៀម យីប,
វ៉ា គិម ហុង, ស ខេង, ងួន ញ៉ឹល ។ល។ និង ។ល។
និយាយហើយនិយាយទៀតដើម្បីអោយជាតិ និងអន្តរជាតិ
ដឹងឮ ទូទាំងពិភពលោក។
អោយពួកវាស្អុយឈ្មោះ ស្អុយត្រកូលរាប់ម៉ឺនសែន ឆ្នាំ...!

ជនពាល said...

សូមជ្រាបថា ការផ្សព្វផ្សាយព្រឹត្តិការនាៗ ដែលពាក់ព័ន្ធនិង បញ្ហានយោបាយ បញ្ហាសង្គម ជាដើម គឺជារឿង​ធម្មតាទេ ។ តែការចោទ ថ្នាក់ដឹកនាំ ថាជាជនក្បត់ជាតិ គឺធ្ងន់ធ្ងរណាស់ ។ ការចោទរបៀបនេះ មិនមែនជាការបញ្ចេញមតិសោះឡើយ គឺជាការទង្វើបរិហាកេរ្កិ៍សុទ្ធសាធ ។ កុំថាឡើយនៅកម្ពុជា ទោះបីជានៅសហរដ្ឋអាមេរិកក្ដី ការចោទប្រកាន់ថា ថ្នាក់ដឹកនាំជាជនក្បត់ជាតិយ៉ាងនេះ គឺនឹងត្រូវអាជ្ញាធរអាមេរិក អូសក្បាលយកទៅដាក់នៅលើ កោះ កានតាណាម៉ូជាមិនខាន ។ ដូច្នេះ បងប្អូនខ្មែរទាំងឡាយ ត្រូវបែងចែកអោយច្បាស់លាស់ រវាង សិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិ និង ទង្វើបរិហាកេរ្កិ៍ជាសាធារណះ !!
មួយវិញទៀត ការថតចម្លងនដោយចែកចាយ ឬផ្សព្វផ្សាយបន្ត ជាលក្ខណះ លាយលក្ខណ៍អក្សរ រូបភាព ជាដើម នូវឯកសារទាំងឡាយណា ដែល ពាក់ព័ន្ធនិងបទបរិហាកេរ្កិ៍ នោះៗ គឺជននេះ អាចប្រឈមមុខ អំពីបទចោទប្រកាន់ក្នុងការណី រួមគំនិត បរិហាកេរ្កិ៍ផងដែរ ។ កុំភ្លេចថា !ច្បាប់គឺមានតម្លាភាពណាស់ យើងមានសិទ្ធចោទប្រកាន់ គេ ក៏មានសិទ្ធការពារខ្លួនគេ ដូចតែយើងដែរ ។

Anonymous said...

You need to understand the true nature of Hun Sen. That is the real essence of who he is is that he is just a STUPID JERK. He is so stupid that he always paranoid. Remember that a part of his affiliation was with Pol Pot who never saw the failure of his own doings. Pol Pot was failing left and right but yet he continued to explain to the people that Cambodia was on the right track to a greater day. Ranaridth confirms that Hun Sen always think that his doings are in the right and nothing is wrong. Even the additional border treaties with ah YUONs are also right. Just like Pol Pot who were a failure and unsuccessful, Pol Pot started to kill and kill more of the people who served him. In the end, Hun Sen broke away from Pol Pot and returned with ah YUON troops to topple Pol Pot. The history is repeating itself in Cambodia again. Hun Sen thinks that his policy of ceding the land to ah YUONs is right but the people see it as the biggest failure in Hun Sen's policy. Now Hun Sen is paranoid--so paranoid that even reading and sharing about it is a CRIME. Lol. Now he chooses to make an example of the innocent man who are protected by the freedom of choices. Hun Sen knows that his days are numbered and his legacy of sh*t on the sufferings of the Cambodian people will go down in history as the infamous work of the one-eyed butcher who led Cambodia to territorial losses and destruction.

Anonymous said...

the prince too weak to lead the nation, most prince became king and ruined the nation for centuries we must stope him or prohibit him from polictic. He is not qualify at all, they live in very comfort zone, you know comfort zon are the enermy of all greatness, he allready ruined himself, but he will ruin more to the nation if he got chance to lead, please stop him. if he not draw back, put him right off we can't accept any destructive greedy king any more. If he ranaridh experience hardship and more creative like ordinary cambodian that ok but he is idling, laofing he can't get job don.

Anonymous said...

គណៈបក្សប្រជាជន ជាក្រុមភាវកម្ម ជាបក្សកុម្មុយនិស្តហាណូយ ជាបិសាចប្រែរូបជញ្ជក់ឈាមខ្មែរ បំផ្លិចបំផ្លាញពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ ឱ្យរលាយ រលត់ដូចប្រទេសចំប៉ា!

Anonymous said...

*IN HUN SEN REGIME THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING IF THEY WANT IT.... LIKE IN POL POT CONTROL TOO.BOTH SYSTEMS ARE THE SAME [1975-2010].in left site of KI MEDIA blog I don't see what wrong about Bad words to 4 guys in H.S regime.They just put question Marks ???....like that.TRAITORS?.LES TRAITRES DE LA NATION? ect....!!!!But some khmer news like Radio free asia are so confuses with khmer words.....and both guys look like KAU DAM BAVV KHNANG KA AIK HEIRR ROUM LORNG ROUM SAYY KOUN TOUYY.
KHMER1970

Anonymous said...

the smell of Khmer rouge regime will be come again?

Anonymous said...

He make own people suffer like that what you go to call brother and you ever see President of usa did that. All the president of USA they're care a lot for all the human kind living in this country.
Because of you make him to King and than dek jo but he still Hun sen when someone call him A kwak or A kbot Make him like crazy and make you crazy and say about law In cambodia. He take the land owner put in jail.He jail that guy so quick just arrest and jail like snap a finger. You win do what ever you want. Jon pal

Anonymous said...

All Khmer oversea have already known Hun Xen, Chea Sim, Heng Somrin,and Va Kim Hong are working for Youn.

Only 10% of Khmer inside Cambodia know what going on.

But other Khmer about 90% are uneducated and they don't know what their Leader are doing for.

Sihanouk and Sihamoni are Youn's dogy can't do anythings for Khmer always do for Youn.

Anonymous said...

While defamation maybe a legal entitlement of individuals who feel their reputation is being unfairly damaged in anyway, the law on defamation in most democratic nations provides equal opportunities - including financial assistance needed to mount legal defense - for the protagonists to settle their disagreement(s) or dispute(s) before an independent court/tribunal, presided over by an independent judge with the participation of a jury.

When was the last time that any defamation case involving ruling government figures had been decided in favour of the party charged with 'defamation' or 'spreading false information'? Remember the (PM) Hun Sen v (MP) Mu Sochua case, and how even the latter's lawyer had felt sufficiently pressured to swap sides by defecting to the powerful defendant's party?

Certainly, something is not quite adding up when people suddenly learn that a citizen was pronounced guilty of defamation for reproducing news contents published by an anonymous online media venture like KI Media. Glancing at one of the headlines this morning, I have to confess to a slight feeling of trepidation that, maybe at last, my dear friend and ubiquitous Mr Heng Soy, had finally run out of his 'luck' and been smoked out of his remote hideout some where in the Himalaya, or had lost the support of his mentor-guru in the Dalai Lama in - what is that place again, Katmandu?

Humour aside, this is a serious matter, (as another man has been rendered victim of another instance of travesty of justice) and few - if any, Cambodia centred media outlets today - can provide their audience with this combination of irreverent humour and serious news coverage/contents at the same time.

If fairness and defending one's integrity or reputation is the overriding objective here, why not work to create a level-playing field for all citizens and groups?

How many developed, democratic countries/governments in the world today have had to react (making themselves look ridiculous in the process!)to covert, online media sources like KI Media? Isn't the very existence of such media outlets a reflection of the lack of freedom of expression in Cambodia as a whole? Would it be preferable for all concerned if Cambodians are instead compelled into taking more radical steps to liberate themselves and their nation from de facto tyranny by going underground and bear arms against the ruling regime, as many had done in the 1960s and 1970s?

Can Vietnam live in peace, if Cambodians can't?


Kouprey

Anonymous said...

please post my comment on KI,
world rule by immagination
win-win policy are global success stratergy, may be the only most succussful exist in the univers.
CPP or SRP must set an acceptable stratergy for majority of people. in order to gain support SRP have to set clear role model or it imagination to form the vivid picture for people to see and lead to beleive and lead to support srp. SRP must show leadership model mean to bring higher or greater standard than ordinary peolpe willing to accept, that lead to chang if the things without need a chang we don't need leader we may want manager that enought. SRP try to gain support by using moedl criticising individaul HUN sen, all SRP hundred thousand of them wast energy and times kept, kept, and kept searcing, forcusing for CPP negative and spread it out. Ok here the outcome, all form of criticising, jealousy, anger, hatred, these form are the gosh of all destruction any man or women possess with thse form are drawn to self most, the most destructive, destructive and destructive magnetizing. People will not willing to joint, listen and support SRP who master at managing criticise it happen to indivdaul and to the whole Party. May I reach out to HE. Sam Rainsy please reform or alternate your policy plateform to set more constructive role model lift up or bring better level for All SRP supporter, let them see in the future If you win all those people will benifite............etc ,.I want to see All SRP member be smarter, wisheful, and greater than 5 years ago.
CPP they biuld future, more than 20 000 schools, thousand kilometer of road, hospital and build fundemontal of capitalist that lead to civilization, stronger economice, and better living standard now. that the vivide picture in people mind.
please help edit my article, Thank you

Anonymous said...

អាណាក៏ដោយឲ្យតែយកដីខ្មែរទៅឲ្យយួន គឺត្រូវតែប្រទេចផ្ដាស់សារវា។គិតមើលទៅប្រជារាស្ត្រខ្មែរដែលរស់នៅតាមជាយដែនក្នុងដីខ្មែរ ប៉ុន្តែគ្នាបាត់បង្កាន់ដៃ នឹងត្រូវពួកអា CPP ចោទគ្នាថា កំពុងរស់នៅលើទឹកដីយួន។អស្ចារតែម្ដង។

Anonymous said...

I bet ah KI Media is happy to hear that! Bravo motherfucker KI Media shit!

Anonymous said...

Long Live KI,
One of the strong KI readers since day 1, I believe Ki is the eye, the ear, helping ease the heart feeling that many nationalist Khmers everywhere in the world relating back home to our motherland, we love, we've ever missed, sometimes one trying to ignore to close eye to not seeing the unfortunate misery of our people living everyday under the gun on their head, the so call the development of the land to benefits a few rich millionaire in Cambodia: Power and Moneys.
I came to admit that one can not easily to forget if our motherland in really is still the poorest, corrupted, lawless country on earth.
My suggestion to KI in order to help our country even longer through advance technology that Ki providing now a mankind of feeling to our suffering country on the way to Vietnamization may not be thrue.
Please use Gene Sharp's technique "Strategic planning" for Short and long term plan until we Khmers find way together disintegrating the Tyranny one day by the power of the people of non violence.

ខ្មែរ​រងគ្រោះ said...

គ្រាន់តែបុរសម្នាក់បោះពុម្ភព៏តមាន​ពីគេហទំព័រ KI ចែកគ្នាមើល​សោះឯងស្រាវជ្រាវទាល់តែឃើញហើយចាប់គាត់ដាក់គុកចុះទឹកភ្នែកប្រជារាស្រ្តដែលស្រែករហេមរហាម​រងគ្រោះពីរឿងបាត់ដី​ផ្ទះសម្បែងត្រូវ​គេបូមខ្សាច់កប់​ហេតុម្តេចក៍ឯងមើលមិនឃើញ។​សូមរាស្រ្តខ្មែរ​ក្រោកឡើងបើយើង​ក្រោកឡើងក្នុងពេលតែមួយ​គ្រប់ទីកន្លែងវាពុំមានលទ្ធភាពទប់បានទេបើចាំវាចុះគ្មានផ្លូវទេដូច​ឆ្កែអញ្ចឹងតែវាធ្លាប់ស៊ីអាចម៏ហើយវាមិនឈប់ទេ។​ក្បាលអាខ្វាក់ទាល់តែទាក់ក​អូសទម្លាក់ដូចសាដាមហ៊ូសេនបាន​វាធ្លាក់។អានេះវាជិតដល់ពេលចៅហ្វាយវាហៅទៅហាណូយ​រួចហើយ​បញ្ច្រកបាយដំណើបនិងដូងហើយ​។ដល់ពេល​យួន​វាយកស្រុកខ្មែរបាន​100%ហើយ​វានិងអោយ​អាខ្វាក់និង​មីជំទាវ​ក្តិតធំស៊ីបាយដំណើបនិងដូងហើយព្រោះយួន​វាគិតថាទុកក៏មិនចំណេញដែរ​ព្រោះបេសកកម្មវាចប់ហើយ​។ណាមួយយួនវាគិតថាអានេះជាតិសាសន៏វាសោះវាហ៊ានក្បត់គ្រាន់តែអញលើកបន្តុបប៉ុណ្ណឹងបើទុកវាថ្ងៃក្រោយ​មាននណារ​បន្តុបវាបន្តិច​វាអាចក្បត់អញដែរដូច្នេះអោយវាស៊ីបាយដំណើបនិងដូងគឺជារង្វាន់ដ៏ល្អបំផុត​សម្រាប់វា។​ក៏ប៉ុន្តែបើយើងចាំរហូតដល់វាស៊ីបាយដំណើបនិងដូងនោះវាហួសពេលទៅហើយដោយសាយួនវាយកស្រុកអស់ដូច្នេះគួតែទាក់កវាទំលាក់មុនពេលវាទទួលរង្វាន់ពីយួន​ទើបជាការប្រសើរ។

Anonymous said...

DEAR KANHARITH1!!!
YOU SUPPOSED TO BE THE SPOKESMAN OF THE HUN SEN'S ADMINISTRATION, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU DID A GOOD JOB, THAT'S WHY YOUR SAMDECH DEK CHO CREATED ANOTHER DOZEN OF INFORMATION UNIT AND FAST REACTION
WHICH ALSO SAID DIFFERENT THING AT
THE SAME TIME SO NOBODY KNOWS WHO
TO TRUST. OKEY! LET'S HAVE SOME FUN, HAVE YOUR GOVERNMENT CLOSE KI
MEDIA AND TAKE IT TO COURT WHATEVER
INTERNATIONAL COURT OR WELL YOUR
SO CALLED KANGAROO COURT BUT LEAVE
SMALL SUPPORTER ALONE. GO FOR THE BIG FISH IF YOU STILL HAVE BALLS.

Anonymous said...

Ah Hun Sen vear somdach ey vear. Loke euy loke. Ah mouy nung vear jear knhom kanjeash ah YUONs tae taer. Ah Nung vear somdach somdouch sa'ey vear baer vear niyeay Khmer min trong kontuy phorng. Remember back in the days in the 90's ah Hun Sen say the name "Kampuchea" as "Campuchia" with a YUON accent. Hahah. Ah Nung has a title of ah Som Arch Ko tay taer. Ah Nung vear barn kar ey because after over 30 years in power Cambodia still does not even enough doctors to cure the small population of Cambodia. Ah Muoy nung vear ot barn kar ey tay. Ah Kongvak nung vear barn tay ah Soy Sopheap nung ah le ler Chum Kosol noos vear banjo roll tae dorng taey. Ah Nung vear kaert moke pler jung mong. Bontech teach Kone pross Kone srey roboss vear dos sbaek jerng vai Kbarl vear heuy ah nung twer barb jren nass.

Anonymous said...

To 3:56AM

Don't you change the subject mother fucker! The subject is the Vietcong dog eaters are relentless in their pursuit to take all Khmer land while AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave mother fucker still sit on his hand and do nothing for dirt poor Cambodian people!

"CPP they build future, more than 20 000 schools, thousand kilometer of road, hospital and build fundamental of capitalist"

So for the more than 30 years and this all AH HUN SEN CPP can do?


This is my analysis of the so called 20,000 schools...It is true that AH HUN SEN build alot of schools with the donor money in his name but AH HUN SEN never invest in training qualify teachers to teach those Cambodian students! In fact Cambodian teacher are the most under pay profession in Cambodia and to survive they have to hold a second job and extort money from the students!

And those "thousand kilometer of roads" built by AH HUN SEN CPP is the money donors and borrowing from China and other countries! These fucken roads responsible for the highest death rate for Cambodian people! In fact it is the number one killer of Cambodian after AIDS!

And for hospitals are mostly located in the city to serve the rich and the wealthy but most dirt poor Cambodian people who live in the rural are too far the hospital and their life is worth no less than animal when they get sick!!

Tell me more mother fucker!

Anonymous said...

Kmas Siem te, ke tha Khmersott(ชาวกัมพูชาโปรดตื่นขึ้นมา!คนขายชาติเป็น ฮุนเซน, Chea Sim, เฮง Somrin และ Var Kimhong.
khmersott).
lmom stop che khnea hoay khmer euy khmer

Anonymous said...

Hehmr. 10:36AM,
Are you a pure Siem blood?? Ah Hun Sen, Ah Chea Sim, Ah Heng Sam Rinn Ah Svar Kim Hong Vea Chea Khmer sott Kor Doy! Ter Beu Vea Kbatt Cheat Katt Dei oy touv Ah Kon-toab Anh Che Vea! Che Taing Mer Av Vea Teat!Mother Fucker!

Anonymous said...

bet ach kdo ey vea. puok ah nis mean amnach ey tov bet website ke nus. ah chhkae, sman tha ahaeng ach tveu avey ban krub yang doch ahaeng kit reu. ah sva prey

Anonymous said...

សូមឲ្យវត្ថុស័កសិទ្ធិក្នុងលោកប្រល័យពួកអាក្បត់ជាតិតិរិច្ឆាន
ដែល បំផ្លាញ,ច្បាម, ឆក់, ប្លន់, ដណ្ដើមយក, កៀបសង្កត់, សង្កត់សង្កិន, ជិះជាន់, បង្ក្រាប, វាយ, ទាត់, ធាក់
សូមទេវតាមហាសង្ក្រាន្តឆ្នាំថ្មីឲ្យពួកអាក្បត់ជាតិតិរិច្ឆាន
ទាំងអស់នេះ ងាប់ទៅគ្មានដីកប់ ងាប់មួយពូជរបស់វា
គ្មានអ្នកធ្វើបុណ្យឲ្យ ។

Anonymous said...

ar-khmer RFI no one listen to your news fucker All of you is ar-youn that why khmer a round the world they said the same thing ..all of you work for ar-hun sen and for youn ( do you thinks khmer people don't know what you did fucker hope all of you no more work ha- i'll tell you this you bather listen to the khmer post that the best media no take any site same on you ar-youn RFI media ) from me canada vancouver,bc

Anonymous said...

ar-khmer RFI no one listen to your news fucker All of you is ar-youn that why khmer a round the world they said the same thing ..all of you work for ar-hun sen and for youn ( do you thinks khmer people don't know what you did fucker hope all of you no more work ha- i'll tell you this you bather listen to the khmer post that the best media no take any site same on you ar-youn RFI media ) from me canada vancouver,bc

Anonymous said...

ah ha, icheung puok ah RFI chea puok ah kanh cheas yuon te, ahhh vea sase tro pong ah kanh cheas yuon te toe.

Anonymous said...

Government should create another website against Sam Rainsy and let readers who support CPP to criticise Sam Rainsy.

Hun Sen Thok

Anonymous said...

>.<

Anonymous said...

chas keur eoy chheu chet nas, beu yeung min sralanh proteh cheet yeung, teu eoy nak na mok sraland chum nous yeung? p'nhak lang khmer krop roub!