Thursday, January 20, 2011

Request of Civil Party Theary Seng to be on Co-Prosecutors' Witness List

Theary Seng (pointing at a mass grave, possibly where her mom was killed in 1978) speaking with man who was there at Boeung Rai (the heart of the East Zone) when she was a prisoner there; DC-Cam estimated that 30,000 to be killed here.  Mrs. Andrea Mann (the German Ambassador's real boss!), Helen & Wally Boelkins, Daravuth Seng, village children, filmmaker Marc Eberle (Svay Rieng, 18 Jan. 2010).



NOTE to civil parties:  If you are interested in testifying, please assist your civil party lawyer by drafting your own application by following the Order to File Material in Preparation for Trial for Case 002 issued by the Trial Chamber this 17 Jan 2011 in light of the Closing Order.  Both are PUBLIC documents, made available here.  

I am informed that the UN French co-lead lawyer Elisabeth Simonneau Fort has recently arrived into Cambodia and will hold a meeting with all civil party lawyers on Tuesday, 25 Jan. 2011.

For Closing Order in Khmer or French, go to: www.eccc.gov.kh.


-  Theary Seng, 20 Jan. 2011
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*  I forgot to include in my original submission this additional information, but just now informed the UN Co-Prosecutor that I am one of only 3 civil parties as stated in the Closing Order who could testify on Wat Tlork Security Center and the only one to its nexus, Boeung Rai Security Center, and also as part of the Phase III East Zone Movement.  Moreover, as the person who started and shaped the victim-civil party movement since the ECCC came into operation in mid-2006, the representative of the only class (Civil Parties of Orphans Class), and the articulate public voice of victims - I'd make a strong and natural witness for the prosecution.  Of course, I will make a similar request via the civil party co-lead lawyers, but as I described earlier, the request is stronger through the co-prosecutors and the civil party lawyers lack adequate resources and coordination, with the newly-hired UN co-lead lawyer yet to arrive into Cambodia.
The Co-Prosecutors, as my (victims') representatives, have the duty to defend and advocate for the rights and benefits of victims effectively and comprehensively, especially in light of my long engagement and public role in the matter.


- Theary Seng, 19 Jan. 2011
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On a more consistent basis, I will be writing a column to be published on KI-Media, my personal website www.thearyseng.com, my FACEBOOK (currently at 2,200 "friends") and other outlets on the Extraordinary Chambers (ECCC) in my capacity not only as a US-trained lawyer and civil society leader engaging Cambodians on the work of justice, peace and reconciliation in light of the ECCC, but more importantly as a Civil Party in Case 002 against the Senior Khmer Rouge leaders (the heart of the Extraordinary Chambers), the first victim to be recognized as such by and to testify in the ECCC.

There is an important deadline coming up for the Co-Prosecutors, 15 days after the final decision on the Closing Order (hence, end of this month of Jan. 31) to submit their list of witnesses to testify on the substantive facts and laws (crimes) against the senior Khmer Rouge leaders as set out in the Case 002 Closing Order to the Trial Chamber.

It it imperative that many voices of the 2,000+ accepted civil parties be given this role to testify as witnesses, as this is now the only means for us to have a direct voice in the criminal proceeding. This, however, requires that the names of the civil parties and their reasons as related to the crimes in the Closing Order be established and forwarded to the ECCC Trial Chamber for deliberation and acceptance. The strongest case is if the civil party's name is included in the list of witnesses of the Co-Prosecutors, due 12-13 days from now.

But if not in the list of the Co-Prosecutors, the civil party has a second chance if it is included in the list of witnesses to be submitted by the Civil Party Co-Lead Lawyers, Mr. ANG Pich and Ms. Elisabeth SIMONNEAU FORT, the deadline being mid-February 2011, 15 days after the deadline of the Co-Prosecutors.

It is highly questionable if the civil parties' lawyers -- both Khmer and foreign -- are able and capable to handle and represent effectively 2,000+ clients and still make the deadline of mid-February 2011.

First, the UN French Co-Lead Lawyer has yet to arrive in Cambodia and start her position. She is expected to arrive the end of January 2011 which will then give her 15 days to settle into a new home, new country, master the learning curve of general knowledge of Cambodia, then the specific history and rules of the ECCC, then the very specific nature of civil parties representation and details of 2,000+ clients. There is a rumor that she only speaks French and not Khmer or English. I wish her luck!

True, the Co-Lead Lawyers work in cooperation with a coterie of both Khmer and foreign civil party lawyers, approx. 40. The Khmer lawyers are limited to less than 10 persons; the foreign lawyers are either not based in Cambodia tending to their full-time positions in their respective country or if based in Cambodia full-time, it is questionable whether they "get" it for various reasons, e.g. language barriers, lack of commitment/seriousness/experience.

To address the insurmountable problems, it is suggested that the names of the civil parties to be forwarded to the Trial Chamber via the Co-Lead Lawyers be based on a quota system: for example, [ 5 ] names of civil parties from each of the 11 civil party lawyer teams.

This is the most absurd suggestion for obvious reasons, the main ones being:

One, witnesses should be determined based on their ability to testify on a substantive point of fact or law of the Closing Order, not based a random lottery picking to satisfy the fairness/unfairness of lawyers. The interests of the law and of the civil parties (and not the lawyers!) should be paramount.

Two, each team of civil party lawyers has clients ranging from 1 individual to 700+ individuals.

Three, it is a lazy, fatalistic method of handling a challenge without even attempting to tackle the problem.

By way of example, I am here publishing an excerpt of only my personal request and reasons to the Co-Prosecutors to be in their list of witnesses to the Trial Chamber with the hope that other civil parties will follow my lead in proactively engaging and assisting this process with their lawyers.

- Theary C. SENG, Civil Party and representative of Civil Parties of Orphans Class (18 Jan. 2011, Phnom Penh).

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I.               Introduction

1.      I, Theary C. SENG in my personal capacity as the first applicant and first-recognized Civil Party by the Extraordinary Chambers (“ECCC”) (see http://www.thearyseng.com/eccc-civil-party, in particular http://www.eccc.gov.kh/english/cabinet/courtDoc/176/C22_I_62_EN.pdf)  am requesting to have my name be included in the List of Witnesses of the Co-Prosecutors to be submitted to the ECCC Trial Chamber to testify in the criminal proceeding against the senior Khmer Rouge leaders—Nuon Chea, Khieu Samphan, Ieng Sary and his wife Ieng Thirith—of Case 002 for the reasons delineated below.


2.     I, Theary C. SENG in my capacity as founder and president of the Association of Khmer Rouge Victims in Cambodia (“Victims Association”), the first Cambodia-based victim association to be registered with the Ministry of Interior and the first to be accepted by the ECCC Victims Support Section, and in my capacity as the Representative of the Civil Parties of Orphans Class, a sub-group of the Victims Association whose inception preceded even the formal formation of the Victims Association, am requesting to have 12 members of the Orphans Class who are ECCC-recognized Civil Parties, listed below and in the attached Summary Annex, also be included in the List of Witnesses of the Co-Prosecutors for the reasons delineated below.  Most members of the Civil Parties of Orphans listed me in their civil party application as their Representative.

3.     In both capacities, herein, the “Applicant”.

4.     It should be noted that the Applicant is nationally and internationally known for her tireless efforts to engage the Cambodian population in-country and in the diasporas on victims participation as (i) witness, (ii) complainant, or the novel (iii) civil party.  See http://www.thearyseng.com/peace-builder, in particular http://thearyseng.com/peace-builder/42/54 and http://thearyseng.com/victims-association.  She is the subject of countless documentary films, many mentioning her roles as the first civil party and representative of the Civil Parties of Orphans Class, notably Facing Genocide (Story Production, Sweden), Judging Genocide (ABC Australia, CNN World Untold Stories), and another in-production by German filmmaker Marc Eberle with thousands of hours of footage include outreach efforts by the Applicant spanning the last 3 years.

II.            Witness List

Witness No. 1 – Ms. Theary C. SENG

5.     Theary C. SENG is a child victim of forced Movement of the Population from Phnom Penh – Phase I (Closing Order: Part One VIII.A. para. 221-261), during which she suffered inter alia the “disappearance”/murder of her father KAO Im, a high-ranking military commander of the Lon Nol regime; Movement of the Population from the East Zone – Phase III (Closing Order: Part One VIII.A. para. 283-294), during which she suffered inter alia illegal arrest and illegal detention at Wat Tlork Security Center (Closing Order: Part One VIII.C. para. 664-666) later transferred to Boeung Rai Security Center (Closing Order VIII.C. para. 665) where she underwent Compulsory Labor as a child, witnessed the murder of a mentally insane woman and suffered the death of her mother and other prisoners, both security centers within the heart of the notorious East Zone during the height of the purges.

6.     Theary C. SENG, as a child from age 4–8, is a WITNESS to CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY “whereby ranking officers and officials of the Khmer Republic (as well as their subordinates and family members) were targeted because they were considered likely to be hostile to the CPK”
-        Legal elements of MURDER of father, mother, mentally insane woman, and other prisoners
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers in the East Zone
o   Para. 1376.  “As regards security centers, for the entire period of the regime, the personnel of these centers, both directly and indirectly, caused the death of a large number of detainees. In most instances, the prisoners were killed deliberately through a variety of means, including summary execution in or near the security centers. Moreover, many prisoners died as a result of torture and ill-treatment.”
o   Murder of Mother SENG Chen Eat.
o   Murder of mentally insane woman.
o   Murders of other prisoners.  The Documentation Center of Cambodia estimated that 30,000 lives were lost in Boeung Rai Security Center.
·       Phase I Movement
o   Murder of Father KAO Im

-        Legal elements of EXTERMINATION (para. 1381)
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers in the East Zone
o   Para. 1387.  Inhuman conditions.  As a child, Theary Seng was forced to pick dried animal manures among the countless mass graves.
o   Every night, the prison guards shackled the ankles of prisoners, including her juvenile brothers.
·       Phase I Movement – during the exodus out of Phnom Penh and during the temporary stay at Wat Champa pagoda, sea of human suffering (starvation, lack of medical treatment, shelter etc.)

-        Legal elements of ENSLAVEMENT (para. 1391)
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers
o   Para. 1392. “As regards the actus reus, the personnel of these cooperatives, worksites and security centers deliberately exercised total control and all of the powers attaching to the right of ownership over of the persons placed there, without them being given any real right to agree.”
o   Para. 1394. “Moreover, in all the places mentioned above, including security centers, the victims were forced to perform work without their consent, unpaid and without the opportunity to reap the direct benefits thereof. Work venues, duration and schedules were imposed. The victims could not refuse to perform any work assigned to them. The work, coupled with the constraints described above, stripped them of their free will, and amounts to enslavement.”
-        Legal elements of IMPRISONMENT (para. 1402)
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers
o   Para. 1403. “As regards the actus reus, the personnel of these sites intentionally imposed serious, arbitrary deprivation of liberty on the detainees, in violation of legal guarantees.”
o   As set out in the “Factual Findings – Joint Criminal Enterprise” section, “the network of security centers replaced the judicial system in order to facilitate detention based on the presumed dangerousness of individuals as perceived by the CPK authorities”, the “dangerousness of individuals” include Theary Seng a child victim only seven years old.

-        Legal elements of TORTURE (para. 1408)
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers
o   Para. 1409. “As regards the actus reus, on numerous occasions, CPK cadres through their acts or omissions, deliberately inflicted severe harm and suffering, both physical and mental, during interrogations.”  Theary Seng witnessed the torture of a mentally insane woman in the courtyard of one the two Security Prisons where she was detained as a child of 7 years old.
o   Para. 1410. “Taking account of all the objective and subjective elements of the case, the treatment to which these people were subjected was so severe that it amounts to torture: the methods used, coupled with the inhumane conditions and the context of terror in the security centers, had very serious physical and psychological effects, and in some cases, resulted in death. Torture was both premeditated and institutionalized as the centerpiece of CPK policy against ‘enemies’”, including that of Theary Seng, a child of seven years old.
·       As a child living in the East Zone, Theary Seng was tortured when a Khmer Rouge village authority pierced her right eye and almost blinded her; the scar on her right eye lid is visible to this day.

-        Legal elements of POLITICAL PERSECUTION
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers
o   Para. 1417. “The CPK authorities identified several groups as “enemies” based on their real or perceived political beliefs or political opposition to those wielding power within the CPK. Some of these categories of people, such as former ranking civilian and military personnel of the Khmer Republic, were automatically excluded from the common purpose of building socialism. As for junior officials of the former regime, some were arrested immediately after the CPK took power, because of their allegiance to the previous government, and many were executed at security centers… The entire population remaining in towns after the CPK came to power was labeled as ‘new people’ or ‘17 April people’”.
o   Para. 1424
·       Phase I Movement – Theary Seng as a child of 4 years old was forced with her maternal family members to exit her birth city of Phnom Penh; they were targeted for being a member of the “new people”.

-        Legal elements of OTHER INHUMANE ACTS through “Attacks Against Human Dignity”
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers and Phase 1 Movement
o   Para. 1435. “Regarding the actus reus, by depriving the civilian population of adequate food, shelter, medical assistance, and minimum sanitary conditions, the CPK authorities inflicted on victim serious mental and physical suffering and injury, as well as a serious attack on human dignity of similar gravity to other crimes against humanity.”

-        Legal elements of FORCED TRANSFER - Other Inhumane Acts Through Forced Transfer
·       Phase I from Phnom Penh and Phase III from East Zone
o   Para. 1448.  “Considering the facts set out in the sections relating to the three phases of the movement of the population, the material facts of the crime against humanity of other inhumane acts through forced transfer have been established.   In particular relating to the movement of the population from the city of Phnom Penh following the entry of CPK troops on 17 April 1975 (phase 1) […], and the movement of the population from the East Zone from late 1977 until late 1978 (phase 3) [for Theary Seng, to Wat Tlork and then Boeung Rai Security Centers] – the places where they lawfully resided without grounds permitted by international law.”
o   Para. 1449. “With respect to the actus reus, victims endured great suffering, or serious mental or physical suffering or injury or a serious attack on human dignity of similar gravity to other crimes against humanity.”
-        Legal elements to FORCED DISAPPEARANCESOther Inhumane Acts Through Enforced Disappearances
·       Wat Tlork and Boeung Rai Security Centers
o   Para. 1470

7.     Theary C. SENG, as a child from age 4–8, is a witness to crimes in the Cambodian Penal Code 1956 - charges of MURDER and TORTURE of father KAO Im, mother SENG Chen Eat and torture of Theary Seng (piercing of her eye) and that of mentally insane woman when in prison.

8.     Theary C. SENG, in her individual capacity, makes the perfect witness to address the substantive matters delineated above, especially as a child victim and the associated set of rights violated in the crimes and matters abovementioned.

9.     Moreover, Theary Seng gives voice and representation to countless million other Cambodian victims by nature of her consistent, persistent work with victims, her very public platform and writings as well as her law training.

10.  Theary Seng is the author of Daughter of the Killing Fields (London, 2005), a memoir with particular focus on her experience during the Khmer Rouge years.  This memoir will be updated and augmented with additional chapters to be published with Seven Stories Press (New York, late 2011).

84 comments:

Anonymous said...

Theary, if only you could do without your shameless self-promotion on the backs of helpless Khmers.

Anonymous said...

This is excellent information, Theary. Why aren't the press and others speaking about this? It sounds like a very serious matter. Keep up the courage and spirit!

Anonymous said...

It makes you wonder what the idiot of 1:41 AM has done to help the "helpless Khmers"?

Theary, don't listen to cowards like them who take cheap shots as they don't have anything else worth doing.

Anonymous said...

Why is this the first time we hear of something like this?????? Where is the press coverage? The matter sounds pressing and neglected all around.

Anonymous said...

This article mentions Theary's name exactly 25 times. This is ridiculous. I don't know any journalist, author or whoever who writes mainly about him or herself.

Anonymous said...

2:36 am
You kiss ass for what ????

1:41 am

Many common sense suggestions like you to Ms. Seng Before and Now again and again...Support you too 1:41 am.

Anonymous said...

3:22AM Ah pler, if you went to law school like Theary you would know how to write like her.

Anonymous said...

A lot jobless law school graduate in America some end up for just working for legal aid assistant.
Being a law school graduate does not mean you know everything..many lawyers are lying and crooks...
Is Theary Seng was a STATE BAR ASSOCIATION member ????
Just a thoughts...

Anonymous said...

6:07, she is a member of the New York bar association, recognized by every state and worldwide. University of Michigan ranks in the top 5 law school every year.

Anonymous said...

hey 3:22, it mentions her because the article is about her! idiot!

Anonymous said...

THOSE BAGGING HER SHOULD TRY TO COPY HER. YOU ARE FULL OF ENVY. SHE HAS DONE GREAT FOR KHMER.

Anonymous said...

It's funny but more sad!how Theary draws so much jealousy. We are a society that know only how to pull people down, instaed of trying to pull our own selves up.

Anonymous said...

We need more highly educated, passionate Cambodians like Ms. Theary. She's a better ambassador than the real know-nothing, do-nothing ambassadors excellencies in presenting a better face and educated voice.

Anonymous said...

7:22 am, you're shameless liar! Recognized by every state in the union and the world, my derriere! You are just a teary seng's lackey.

Anonymous said...

8:31 AM, it's a simple factual matter. Do you even where New York is?

Anonymous said...

9:16am, Factual my Axx. You are lying through your teeth.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Theary for bringing this to our attention. Maybe the press will focus more on these matters. I don't understand it, but the UN lawyer is not even there in Cambodia?

Anonymous said...

It' s the norm for Khmer people.
Just worrying that some one would get more attention than him, so he starts beating his chest to show that he deserves some attention as well.

That' s why there is always fighting in almost every festival or occasion

dy thuong said...

More than one of my relatives are tortured to death by Khmer rouge, but blaming the powerless Khmer rouge means empowering and benefiting the powerful- living Khmer rouge and their Vietnamese superior.
Without Vietnamese and CPP there would be no Khmer Rouge. Your dead relatives do not come back, dead Khmer Rouge regime will not come back, but the Vietnamese do not back off from controlling you. Theary Seng is short-sighted, -self-oriented.

Anonymous said...

Thear is working to instill in Khmer society respect for rule of law and abolition of impunity. There is no reconiliation without this. It is not easy for her to walk the line - one one the other.

You can say she is shortsighted but that is the role of her organisation.

Anonymous said...

One word from me to Theary C. Seng:

If you are a real Khmer helper you should use your talent to take the dictator, Hun Sen down. Don't just brave like a Kung Hean.
"Kror Peu Knong Tik Bong Min Sauv Hean Chab, Kror Peu Ngorb Srab Bong CHab Oy Srei Meul"

Anonymous said...

The Prosecution would be stupid not to include Theary Seng as a witness as she worked so hard on behalf of victims and everyone knows she can articulate for all victims who cannot be there in court.

Anonymous said...

Why wouldn't Theary be a witness? This court would be a bigger joke if someone like Theary is not a witness. For political reasons, maybe on the Khmer side, but there's the UN side.

Anonymous said...

KI-Media was successfully blocked in Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

It'd be stupid of the government to make an issue out of something like this because they're giving Theary Seng a more public platform, like the Mia Farrow event. Witness or not, knowing her personality, Theary Seng is not going to be quiet. They should just let her be a witness because if she isn't, it would look completely stupid. And she will call public attention on how stupid it is that she is not a witness.

where is the UN people in all of this?

Anonymous said...

12:43, you're so dumb. I am in cambodia now and accessing it.

Anonymous said...

This court is already a sham! It'd be funny to see if Theary Seng is not a witness what she will do and what the other victims will say.

Anonymous said...

I can access from Cambodia, but maybe in case, KI should remind of the mirror site.

Anonymous said...

Of course the Govt will try to marginalize Theary's voice and participation. But the more they do, the larger the platform she gets. they should just let her be a witness. either way, if not inside the courtroom, she will be given steam outside the courtroom and in all her writings and speaking tours.

Anonymous said...

the more we talk here, the more teary seng gets a free ride.

Anonymous said...

that's the stupidity of autocratic regimes; the more they try to censor a website, an event, a person, the more they give that person/website notoriety.

look at how Theary Seng continues to gain greater voice. Chea Vannath and the govt only hurt the local staff in trying to hurt Theary.

Stupid old people resistant to change.

Anonymous said...

Hi
Seng must be brave more than before.Your mother was killed not khmer was vietnam.

I am also Svay Rienger. Try your best to help Khmer, but you have to be careful of your life who work for vietnam, are very dangerous for you.


May triple Gems help you.

Svay Rieng

Anonymous said...

It's a great brief. If she is turned down, it will be clearly political.

Anonymous said...

More power to Theary Seng!

Anonymous said...

So proud of you bong Theary... We need someone like u to help Cambodia. Big applause n hug for you:)
Good luck n may God be with you at all time!!

Anonymous said...

Bong theary, who do we yell and scream to to get you become a witness?

Anonymous said...

A JOKE THIS COURT IF THEARY SENG DOESN'T SPEAK AS WITNESS!! LOOK AT ALL SHE HAS DONE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND READ THIS GREAT ARTICLE STATING HER CASE.

Anonymous said...

Chea Lang runs the show and she is not gonna let Ms. Theary share her stage! The UN Andrew ?? is too new to Cambodia to do anything. He looks like a slicky dick with his strange hair in the photo.

Anonymous said...

We want Bong Theary to be a witness. She represnt victims and voice!

Anonymous said...

We support instead of deride.

Anonymous said...

Ms. Theary Seng,
Are you license attorney in U.S ?
Are you a Sustaining Member of a State Bar Association ?
How are you expertise in U.S: Civil Case, Criminal Case ?
How many retaining Clients in U.S prior going to Cambodia?
Had you ever retained cases of any Khmer American clients in U.S in court ?

There are many law school graduate in U.S that have not earned more credential to represent clients in legal manner.
You have to research the lawyers backgrounds, experinces, their ethical conducts..

Many Khmers abroad are also serving Khmer in other NGO, UNDP and else... some are ego and selfish earned no respect from Cambodian, we salute to many Khmers good heart have either sacrificed their time and moneys to help the less fortunate khmers.

Do not want the less fortunate Khmers to be broken heart to believe one who know how to say good then end up disappointing to poor Khmers.
We have learned from the past that some Khmers are so fast to believe, please TRUST and Verify!!!

Just little advice,

The survival of KR

Anonymous said...

I am just appalled to see how many eathworms came out to deride this Khmer woman, and a witness of the criminal gangs (who are still hounting Cambodia as we speak.
Bar lawyer or no-bar lawyer what's the issue here?

You men are pissing in your pants because this young women will get all of you scums by the TAIL!!!!

Lookout folks, and help her every which way possible.

Anonymous said...

KI Team,
The best online ever published for years to inpire many Khmers Nationlist enjoying to learn the Skill of writing, and also in addition of the historical documents from the past and present reading in KI.
Not long ago listening to many known anynomous friends who usually the strong supporters of KI so far that gave some suggestions to KI not to do a seft promote style for any favored friends again and again may be backfires in the long run turn out as demaguogy technique will not be good for KI.
Secondly a suggestion that Keep KI reamins here longer to serve Khmer sake through online media please use professional rhetoric style, f.e like Doctor Gaffa Peang Meth's, Heng Soy, MP MU SUCHUA writing style and other...
use profanity words may be targeted by CPP to get rid of KI sooner to keep KI here that means so much for long term share accomplishment of real democracy in Cambodia.

Please be a good listener. Dr. Gaffa wrote in KI 1/14/11 "Buddha says, " All that we are, arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world".

Believe we together will share the change of Cambodia through our manipulation little by little, like KI have done inside online that already blossom in Srok Khmers, reliable sources.

Anonymous said...

Theary!

You cannot and doen't want to open a case against Viet killers.

Why ?

YOU should know that national reconciliation is the best interest of the Cambodia.

My two brothers, my friends were killed too. I don't khnow who killed them. Who is ANKAR.
Look at K-5. I listen to many people. Therefore, for the sake of Cambodia and people, I forget and forgive. But I cannot forgive and forget YUON.

Theary, answer my questions, young lady.

I assure you that you will fail if you do a business a a lawyer in USA.

Theary, answer my questions, young lady.

dy thuong said...

Most of you here are so angry with the khmer rouge (people/regime)-
try to ask yourself- who brought in or help brought in the regime,
for what purpose, why they killed,
who benefit from the regime, what you would do if you happen to be one of those KR people and why, did you or member of your family participate for the cause of the khmer rouge existance, did the Vietnamese involve in the cause of the Khmer rouge existance, is it fair for you to kill or to jail all the former Khmer rouge members (approx.50% of Khmer population), why the former Khmer Rouge peole do not now kill like they did, how does the vietnamese feel(laugh or cry) on the khmer rouge trial, who benefit most from the khmer rouge trial; one must balance between benefit and loss by looking into all corners, be concerned with the living tiger and not the dead one.
eveyone and i knows how bad and how wrong the Khmer rouge was. But many do not know or do not want to know why it happend and for what reasons. Most former khmer rouge members now blame the regime they once supported. They was forced to or wrongly believe. This history of belief is now still repeated among many of the short-sighted Khmer and the VN and the opportunist are so happy to take the gain.

Anonymous said...

2:57 AM, I agree with you who really is Angkar between 1975-1979?

If we look at Khmer Rouge Tribunals or ECCC it has taken so long , so many obsticals and so far not even complete Duch case yet.

To me part of finding out why innocient Khmer people were killed millions betweetn 1975-1979 is to know our Khmer real history .

Part of our history is who origiionally formed communism in Cambodia?

Anonymous said...

Yes, this KRT would be even more of a SHAM if Theary is not in the list of witnesses.

Anonymous said...

This govt is slow to learn (or do not learn) from history - when they censor they give greater platform, esp to personalities who will continue to push and push. it's funny how they are giving so much press coverage to KI media now.

they may be able to block this site or blogspot, but think of how cheap it is to create new sites or think of all the free sites out there. so they will continue to play catch up???? they win only if KI gets exhausted.

the same principle goes for a personality like Theary who will not give up.

so, the game continues and the govt makes celebrities out of these sites and people.

hahahahhaha

Anonymous said...

Go Theary! We're behind you!

Anonymous said...

4:35am
behind her for what ? see her what ?

Anonymous said...

We need you to be our voice in the courtroom, Theary. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

This Khmer Rouge Leaders trials are wasting hundreds millions of dollars and nothing will improve Khmer poorest people.

Anonymous said...

We bless instead of condemn.

Anonymous said...

Vietnamese said Hun Sen is the most stupid leader on earth.

Anonymous said...

Any leader who sells his own land and his own people is stupid.

Anonymous said...

google earth
map of Cambodia have no Khmer letters instead it have Viet, Chinese, Russian, Japanese, English, etc. Look at Thailand every thing label in Thai and English only same as Vietnam.

What are Khmer people thinking about their homeland and language?

Anonymous said...

8:07 is sick!

Anonymous said...

8:07 is very sick and alcoholic no respect to Khmer women.

Anonymous said...

KI-Media, this is the kind of message you should delete and block. VERY SICK people, see 8:07.

Only another example of how this SICK regime and its like is afraid of decent and strong Cambodians, especially women, like Ms. Theary Seng.

Anonymous said...

They're so afraid of Theary Seng that they need to resort to vulgarity and personal attacks.

Anonymous said...

I am 100% agree with 8:22.
The rudeness and vulgar languages allowed to be posted here would give Hun Sen government to discredit and excuse to shut off the site from other people who seek to discuss the on going problem in our home land, Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

Theary doesn't know who were behind killing field. She is a stupid and the worst woman

Anonymous said...

KI Media Team,

Your site has indeed become more or less a very famous and reputable site as far as news on Cambodia is concerned.

Congratulations on your accomplishment and hard work in bringing everyone of us news and opionions expressed on Cambodia!

With such an excellent accomplishment comes also a need and desire to maintain credibility, reputation and decency.

There is a saying that goes something like this: "Your freedom ends where my nose begins."

With such a bad comment made by 8:07 AM, who indeed represents the ignorance, shamefulness and inappropriate behaviour to attck Ms. Theary Seng personally in such an unforgivable and cowardly manner, one can see a strong need and responsibility on your part to erase such a comment.

He has no freedom to post such an irrelevant comment which has nothing to do with the article.

Obviously, there is no way you or I can prevent such a comment from happening; however, I believe that if you happen to monitor the comments or get alerted to such comments, you should immediately delete it to show that your site will not tolerate such an evil and inappropriate behaviour.

Once again, thank you very much for the wonderful work all of you at KI Media have done to provide news on the Internet.

Anet Khmer

Anonymous said...

Bong Theary is a role model for all Cambodians, specially for the women. I support her to be witness.

Anonymous said...

Keep up the great work, Theary!

Anonymous said...

WHY don't we hear more of these urgent matters? I see no NEWS or media focused on this matter!!!!!!!

Thank you, bong Theary for bringing it to our attention!!

Anonymous said...

well, sister Theary be more brave.


KOun Khmer

Anonymous said...

ki media, you are now almost everywhere blocked in Cambodia. Where is the solution that you mentioned earlier?

Anonymous said...

NONE OF THEM ARE COMMUNIST!


SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: January 8, 1990

LEAD: In the last year, the Phnom Penh Government has recruited increasing numbers of non-Communist professionals who were either students or public officials associated with the old Sihanouk and Lon Nol Governments.

In the last year, the Phnom Penh Government has recruited increasing numbers of non-Communist professionals who were either students or public officials associated with the old Sihanouk and Lon Nol Governments.

Kung Sam Ol, a Deputy Prime Minister, worked at the Agriculture Ministry in the Lon Nol years from 1970 to 1975. Chheng Phon, the Minister of Information and Culture, was a fine arts professor then.

French-Trained Physicist

Taing Sarim, the Commerce Minister, was a student in Paris, and Chhay Tan, the Finance Minister, was a student in Phnom Penh in the 1970's. The Minister of Public Health, Yit Kim Seng, is a French-trained physician. None of them are Communists.

The United Front for the Construction and Defense of Cambodia plays a crucial role in the nation's politics, serving as an official bridge between the Government and the people. Ten of the 17 members of its standing committee are former officials from the Lon Nol years with no record as Communists.

Religious Figures

They include religious figures and pro-Western intellectuals like Venerable Um Sum, a Buddhist monk; My Samedi, a French-trained physician who is dean of the School of Medicine in Phnom Penh; Chan Ven, a writer; Venerable Tep Vong, the patriarch of the Buddhist clergy; Chem Snguon, a non-Communist diplomat; Khieu Kanharith, an outspoken journalist, and Lyda Sisowath, a cousin of Prince Norodom Sihanouk.

Many veterans of Mr. Lon Nol's army now serve in the Government of Prime Minister Hun Sen and as provincial governors.

Anonymous said...

I think its better if Theary can post her stuff on her own home page so people who are interested in reading it can do it there.

Anonymous said...

there are so many talented Khmer researchers who have come up with fantastic, insightful analysis of contemporary Cambodia. Many work at independent research institutions like CDRI, CAS, CCC. Why is it that every thought that crosses Theary's mind is posted prominently here and we never hear from them? I don't mind Theary but she talkes about herself too much and in US law-school/donor-speak that does not offer much in terms of analysis but mostly serves to promote the various NGOs she runs like businesses.

I support the idea that Theary post her notes on her own blog.

Anonymous said...

Theary Seng is free to post articles wherever she wishes, as you can do the same. She is smart to disseminate broadly, with a wide net which it looks like she has! Her materials are very educational and informative, so more power to her!

Instead of envying Theary, you should encourage others to also disseminate their ideas. I believe this is what KI Media is all about.

False modesty or ignorance is not something to be proud of.

Anonymous said...

Well said, 5:36, particular the last line. Nor jealousy and self-pity.

Anonymous said...

A passerby...

I have to talk to you,the right Chinese equivalence of "traitors" should be "叛國者(叛国者)" or "賣國賊(卖国贼)"instead of "漢奸(汉奸)".The latter is an old-fashioned term of Great Chinese chauvinism.In a word,"漢奸" will never be a suitable word for a rational one.

Anonymous said...

5:36 pm and 5:38 pm, you two have stepped on a snake and you did not even know it.

Anonymous said...

if some of you can learn to step outside of yourselves and see the quality difference between what you write and what other more sensible, decent, intelligent ones write.

case in point: 6:43 PM - HUH??????? WANT TO TRY AGAIN?!!!!

Anonymous said...

ក្នុងមួយពិភពលោកនេះ អ្នកណាៗក៏ដឹងគ្រប់គ្នាទាំងអស់ថា
អាហ៊ុនសែននេះ ជាមេក្បត់ជាតិ, ជាមេឃាតករឈាមត្រជាក់, ជាមេខ្មែរក្រហម, ជាមេក្រុមមនុស្សពាលនៅកម្ពុជាដែរ...!

Anonymous said...

hey KI-Media.blogspot.com and other blogspot.com are blocked in Cambodia... I really hate this! i have a new blog in blogspot now they banned??? Shit the government! How about other people's blogs? how can they use it again? hate this...

Btw, just wanna tell that there's still a way to open it. we still can open blogspot by hideproxy.com

pls spread this info so that others can open KI-media and blogspot again!

Anonymous said...

Source said, some of KI team is a sibling and or an associate of Ms. Seng.
You dare to advice KI to be an independent source media, impartial, great ethical conducts just like you are talking to crocodiles or Chumtao Doctor (sic)Bun Rany to change for the better.
One who dare to criticize Ms. Seng will be framed as jealousy or seft pity, No ideas ????
If we are caring so much about our motherland being Vietnamization soon please listen to a reasonable suggestions to stay put for our long struggle together to liberate our country.
A lead person must be coming also mostly of a streotype nature that make many people listen to you, not your arrogance.
f.e Ex U.S president Ronald Reagan, was an actor and a great communicator President, Ex. President R. Kennedy, an Excellent speech and loving President, Ms. Hillary or Conleeza Rice, Secretary of State best diplomate, and Mother Therisa of Indian, a respectful crusade for Humanitarian and for Khmer Women, MP MUSUCHUA, considerate a best leadership for women in Cambodia future.
Why fight so hard to promote Ms. Seng, let her prove herself in the future, but so far her leadership proven many questions to many....specially KI supporters since January 2010.. Archives unanymous comments in KI, unfavorable of her..
Our priority, We need to fight against the Vietnamization of Cambodia.
We do not need to fight among ourself if we are caring that one day we might help our country or will be swallowed by Vietnam Snake, if we are so divided not to listen each other as a team work please.

Anonymous said...

1:31 AM, ESL class please, as you in the business of listening to advice.

Anonymous said...

Are you jealous you're not being promoted 1:13 AM? Do something worth promoting, rather than go through this rant and self pity.

- from Ms. Seng's sibling (or am an her associate?) lol !

Anonymous said...

Aw, poor 1:13 AM! feeling neglected because no one is listening to your suggestions?

Anonymous said...

7:22pm, 3:16am, 3:27am, 3:30am, one and the same. did we step on your tail? me so sorly.

Anonymous said...

Sick nitwits don't know how to handle a woman who is intelligent and beautiful. From the hell of the karaoke bar to the hell of their mind.