Tuesday, February 01, 2011

Take down those flags

1/02/2011
Bangkok Post
EDITORIAL

Cambodian authorities are being unhelpful or even provocative by extending the issue of their national flag in a disputed border region. The attempt by Phnom Penh's foreign ministry to turn the issue back on the Thai government is a rather cheap ploy.

It is unresponsive to the elementary and understandable request by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva for Cambodian authorities to remove national standards from a border region that is legally disputed and politically tense.

From the government's statements so far, it appears that a temple is at the heart of the flag issue. The Keo Sikha Kiri Svara pagoda was built more than a decade ago. It predates the controversial memorandum of understanding which is a flashpoint at the yellow shirt rallies. It also is older than the contentious 2001 application by Cambodia for Unesco to list Preah Vihear Temple as a World Heritage Site.

There is a rather insubstantial wooden arch at the end of the temple grounds, above which are two Buddhist flags, and a Cambodian standard. Another flag is painted onto the entranceway.


For years, authorities have either ignored or been unaware of the Cambodian flags. Conveniently, Mr Abhisit has just learned the temple was flying the Cambodian flag. The revelation came immediately after last week's issue of the stone tablet proclaiming "Here! is Cambodia" and complaining of "Thai invasion".

Mr Abhisit is certainly right that these bits of Cambodian nationalism are completely out of place. There is no excuse for provocative displays anywhere near the 4.6 sqkm territory claimed by both countries.

It is interesting, however, that the issue of these flags and tablet arose just as three anti-government groups began street rallies. The yellow-shirted People's Alliance for Democracy, its offshoot the Thai Patriots Network and the Santi Asoke sect continued to maintain semi-independence. They are united against the Thai foreign policy towards Cambodia.

It is, indeed, national policy. The disputatious MoU dates back to the Chuan Leekpai government in 2000. Various negotiations and agreements have continued through every government. But the protesters blocking public thoroughfares around Government House believe the policy will result in ceding Thai territory.

Mr Abhisit knows it will not. Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya, once a firebrand speaker at PAD rallies, knows this, and so does the rational Thai public.

The stone tablet and the flags have given Mr Abhisit a chance to show strength in standing up to the Cambodian government. Without altering agreements and treaties, the prime minister has still been able to show considerable gumption in his demands that Cambodia smash the tablet and, now, remove the flags.

Cambodian forces smashed the offensive stone tablet after Thai complaints. That gesture deserved, and got, credit.

But now Cambodia's foreign ministry has considered Mr Abhisit's demand to haul down the flags, and the answer is hardly serious. Mr Abhisit (the Cambodian officials say) is conducting military exercises and making demands that are provocative. Translation: Mr Abhisit is right but sometimes we have to appear tough, too.

It is a problem that Cambodian flags fly at or near disputed territory and they should come down. Mr Abhisit, however, likely could achieve the desired result through diplomatic channels rather than the media. Relations with neighbours are too important to be affected by street rallies.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Thai are itching for a war since they never have a real one over a century ago with the French, and that war made them sign the treaty of 1907.
So it is about time to let them feel what a real will be like.
Cambodia might not win the war, but she will inflict a lot of pain and suffering to the Thai people.
For a century Thailand has lived in peace and prosperity, Cambodia went through many wars and sufferings, so together we can bring our countries back to the Stone Age, and then we can live happily ever after, because there would be nothing left to fight for.

Anonymous said...

Come on Thai let’s have a war. We know you, the yellow shirts, use Cambodia as a scapegoat to achieve your political goal. Heh many thanks, you might also give the Cambodian the opportunity for an uprising to topple Hun Sen, the barking CHIHUAHUA.
So let’s have a real war shall we, don’t just make noise. Besides a few thousand deaths on both sides, it will be a win, win situation for the yellow shirts and the oppressed Cambodian people who hate Hun Sen.

Anonymous said...

Thai and Khmer soldiers, they are relatively two of the same kind. They are only brave against the unarmed civilians. So let’s have a real war. It does not matter what the outcome of war will be, win or loss for both sides. What matter is test of courage of the real soldiers against the real soldiers.

Anonymous said...

Bangkok Post EDITORIAL: The flag has flyed at Wat Keo Sekha Kiri Svarak since 1998 why Thai just raised the issue?, If Thai think this 4.6 square km are Thai soil then submitt your complaint to International Court of Justic and the problem will be solved, why Thai insist of bilateral negotiation because Thailand absolutely knew she will lose. Stop waste our time and Thailand has to learn to live with this as Cambodia learn to live with the lost of Khmer Krom and Khmer Surin

Anonymous said...

*COMPLAINT TO UN is a Best way for Hun sen Govt.
*if not...Thai APASIT Govt number 2...Number 3...4...will reborn again..again...and THAI will have Military Coup soon.Dont Trust KASITT PHIROUM in Delay Plans.They Divided 2 teams for destroy khmer Nation.one civilian Govt and other one Military Govt.
KHMER DAI

Anonymous said...

កុំមកពឹងគណបក្សប្រជាជនអីបើលោកបក្សប្រឆាំងគ្រាន់បើទៅនិយាយជាមួយសៀមទៅ។ដល់ពេលទឹក
ដល់ច្រមុះបក្សប្រឆាំងបែជាចង់និយាយជាមួយ
សម្តេចហ៊ុនសែនទៅវិញ។បើបក្សប្រឆាំងអួតថាខ្លួន
ខ្លាំងម្តេចមិននិយាយជាពួកអាសៀមទៅ?

Anonymous said...

*Dont Trust viet-nam and china come to Help you.if you Trust them you will have Time like King sihanouk and Pol pot for example.
*Viet-nam Hanoi soldiers can wearing Hun sen Armies uniforms to help him to Killed khmer Petriot[1979-93]...But Right now Hanoi not insane with you to Kill Thai.
KHMER PLEU

Anonymous said...

In the past Pharmacist are great career but today Pharmacist profession is the same as Accountant Graduate. They are facing unemploy and the wage is keep going down hill at Australia as well as United State. Most Pharmacist are part time empoly only, No sick leave, no holiday pay, work as casual who say Pharmacists are rich is very wrong. Actually register nurse is even better than Pharmacist profession in term of wage and working condition. Please don't tell your kid to become pharmacist that is very bad idea.

Pharmacist in real working world is like a sell men or sell women. The boss push the pharmacist to increase sell or the Pharmacist has to terminate by the boss. Customers don't respect pharmacist at all, Pharmacist do everything in the small shop including cleaning, put stock away, invoicing, marketing for front shop, kiss ass customers everyday so hope they would come back.

Pharmacist hardly advice customer to use the medication properly because time is money.

Most pharmacist really on MIMS software to check interaction. Pharmacist read the MIMS from the computer before they advice customer. If the customers ask hard question Pharmacist refer to Doctor.

Please don't push your children to be Pharmacist. It is not that great profession because everyday Pharmacist meet sick,rude and crazy customers and the wage is going down hill nowaday.

Anonymous said...

อภิสิทธิ์จะเสียหน้าในกรณีนี้เพราะฮุนเซนจะไม่ทำในสิ่งที่นายอภิสิทธิ์ต้องการให้เขาทำ . อภิสิทธิ์ไม่สามารถแม้แต่จะบอกคนของเขาเองว่าจะทำอย่างไรสิ่งที่ทำให้เขาคิดว่าเขาสามารถบอกฮุนเซนจะทำอย่างไร ? ฮุนเซนเป็นคนหัวอย่างหนักและเขาจะไม่อนุญาตให้ทุกคนรวมถึงนายอภิสิทธิ์บอกเขาว่าจะทำอย่างไร.
Khmer Ga

Anonymous said...

6:11 AM
-Are you young kid 6 or 7 years old???.Pakk Prochang not a Govt.But if you want it Please Delete Hun sen from Power Heieyy Touk oyy anh Ma dang Moeill??.
KHMER PLEU

Anonymous said...

Ah Dogs CPP how come I never heard your talking about Youn Vietcong border mother fuckers tell me why mother fucker why I only heard your talks only the Siamese border why tell me now mother fuckers.

Anonymous said...

when khmer complain to UN the siem will shit in their pants! they know very well that they cannot win with the law! everybody knows they want to steal from cambodia as they stole a lot already from cambodia! that is the fact! judges don't support the thieves, you know!

Anonymous said...

Dear Dr. Hun Sen and Ten Thousands stars Dr. Hun Manet,

Why do you and your relatives give Kos Trol, sea and lands to Vietnam? Why? and Why?

Why do you and all of your relatives involve a lot of murder cases in Cambodia? Why? Why?

Why do you murder Cambodian K5, 1997 events and so on and so on with lost count? Why?

If you are so good why do you and your families murder Cambodians? Why? And Why?

If you are so good, why do above 90% Cambodians are so poor but you and your relatives are billionaires and millionaires? Why? Why?

Why do you try to kill people from telling the true? Why? Why?

What is the difference from Khmer Rough and you, Sir?

If you are so good why do you block KI from Cambodians?

If you are so good, why do you steal all Cambodian life such as well being, health, cut down Cambodians life expectancy as well? But you and your small group are eat well, sleep well, exercise well, have oversea doctors and best medical treatment from high class private doctors from oversea. Most Cambodians that have no money, your healthcare system left Cambodians patients to die in front of your hospital. Why? Why?

If you are so good why more than 6 millions Vietnamese are living permanently in Cambodia, right now? Why, Dr. Hen Sen? And Why

Everywhere, I walk in Cambodia I see Vietnamese speak Vietnamese every where, why? Why?

Don't you and your families scare of hell for eternity?

When you die can you bring all of your power and money with you?

Dr. Hun Sen and Dr. Big ass lady and his beloved Dr. Hun Manet Please don't put us in jail or kill us for this! We want to live like you and your families do!

Khmers victim of 1997 and K5

PS

If Dr. Hun Sen and Dr. Hun Manet remove the tablet it is show they are extremely coward and his star are just joy stars given by his daddy not by patriotism. Dr. Hun Manet is very coward as his daddy they only aim to kill innocent Cambodians that all. Dr. Hun SEn and Dr. ten stars Hun Manet are very great at bullying Cambodians and killing Cambodians but cowardly toward Thai and Viet.

CPP are not just corrupted, CPP are extremely corrupt. They are even sell the country such as Kos Trol, Seas, lands, Cambodian people, Cambodian health and well being, all resources in the Cambodia…with lost count. You name it!

Seriously where is the win win policy of Dr. Hun Sen represent? The country is getting smaller and smaller and shame by Dr. Hun Sen and Dr. Hun Manet and his families, his relatives and friends.

Anonymous said...

យើងបានដឹងហើយថា សៀមជាចោរ
ចុះហេតុអ្វី បានជាហ៊ុនសែនចូលចិត្តនិយាយជាមួយចោរ?
ម្តេចមិនទៅរកអន្តរជាតិទៅ?
ខ្លាចអី? ខ្លាចអន្តរជាតិធើអី?

Anonymous said...

6:10 AM you said:

កុំមកពឹងគណបក្សប្រជាជនអីបើលោកបក្សប្រឆាំង
គ្រាន់បើទៅនិយាយជាមួយសៀមទៅ។ដល់ពេលទឹក
ដល់ច្រមុះបក្សប្រឆាំងបែជាចង់និយាយជាមួយ
សម្តេចហ៊ុនសែនទៅវិញ។បើបក្សប្រឆាំងអួតថាខ្លួន
ខ្លាំងម្តេចមិននិយាយជាពួកអាសៀមទៅ?
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Ah pleu ot doeung ey.

Idiot, who is in power now, CPP party or បក្សប្រឆាំង?
If you don’t know shit, shut the fuck up.

Anonymous said...

We'll take down the flag if thailand return Preah Vihear national park back to Cambodia. As a matter fact return the whole thailand back to cambodia!