Xinhua
Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said Sunday that UNESCO had agreed that the issue of Preah Vihear temple, which is a World Heritage site, should not further raise tension on the Thai-Cambodian border.
"UNESCO has agreed with us that the World Heritage issue should not become a problem that creates tension or increases the risk of clashes or using of violence again," Abhisit said in his weekly national televised address.
Abhisit on Friday met with Koichiro Matsuura, special envoy of the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) at the Government House in Bangkok on the border dispute over a 4. 6-square kilometer plot of land around the 11th century Preah Vihear temple, which belongs to Cambodia and was awarded as a World Heritage site on July 7, 2008.
Cambodia plans to submit its proposal for administering the disputed border area to UNESCO's World Heritage committee in June this year.
Abhisit said the administration plan covers territory claimed by both Thailand and Cambodia.
"This is an idea to say that at the end, if UNESCO does not accept this fact, the tension will continue forever," the premier said.
He said he has let Matsuura, who visited Phnom Penh after Bangkok, know about this position of Thailand.
Last Sunday in the same program, Abhisit said UNESCO could help alleviate the tension along the border by not proceeding with the administration plan, and that the organization should first let Bangkok and Phnom Penh settle the demarcation of the troubled area through their bilateral mechanism.
A series of crossfire between Thai and Cambodian soldiers earlier this month inflicted casualties on both sides and forced thousands of local villagers to flee their homes.
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We all know that the 4.6 square km area belongs totally to Cambodia; in fact, all the provices along the current Cambodian border used to be part of Cambodia taken away from us by force.
Let us suppose that there is no way out of this conflict no matter what we do since Thailand, being a bigger and stronger nation, is unreasonable and very aggressive in its behaviour towards us and the only solution that is possible is to share the 4.6 square km, then we should not proceed to have a joint development of the area at all.
It is much better to divide the area into two 2.3-square-kilometer areas and we take the one next to Preah Vihear temple since joint development would allow the Thais to be too close to the temple itself which they always want.
Judging from how the UNSC made decision we can see that justice exists only in word and books.
The big powers love to talk about peace and justice, but at the end of the day, their interests always lie in line with a bigger country which can serve their interests better.
Thailand with their strong ally, particularly the US can always manipulate world opinion to favor their interest at the dispute over the area sorrounding Preah Vihear temple.
We are waiting for the decision of the ICJ with the respect to the request submitted recently by the Cambodian government.
Let us say that ICJ can't help us since the Thai refuses to be bound by its decision and for that reason I invite all of you to think very carefully at what is going on and express your opinion here for the following 2 options:
1. Fight at all cost to get the 4.6square km area under Cambodian jurisdiction and thus prolong the status quo indefinitely. In so doing the defence of the eastern border will be more or less neglected and in the end we may lose much more on both ends.
2. Propose to have the 4.6 square km area divided into 2 equal parts and we take the part next to Preah Vihear. This way we end the problem, of course, to our disadvantage, but again as a smaller nation with a leader as corrupted and irresponsible as Hun Sen, we can't afford to have a protracted conflict with Thailand over this small area and ignore the much bigger problem on the eastern front with Vietnam.
If you think of other options, please feel free to express them as well.
Thank you all for your interest in this issue.
Anet Khmer
when was the last time sien saying anything truth. they don't have anything to prove to the world or than using their women pus-c. in reality, when people talking about traveling to thailand, they know what they're talking about.
ABHISIT: "This is an idea to say that at the end, if UNESCO does not accept this fact, the tension(war) will continue forever between Thailand and Cambodia.
Let me tell you(Abhisit)---if you disagree with the UNESCO's decision and supposedly somehow if you declare a war with CAMBODIA--it won't be any problem--it will take only one nuclear bomb to destroy BANGKOK with 10,000,000 inhabitants. I don't care what arsenals you(Thais)plan to use during the forthcoming clash--either cluster bombs or chemical weapons, but CAMBODIA will destroy BANGKOK in a blink of an eye so that the war will over soon. May God bless Cambodian soldiers at the front lines--be alert to the Thai enemies at all time.
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3:10 AM
I do not agree your option II.
Idon't want to lose any land to Thai.
It is better to go with the map that France and Siam agreed between 1904 - 1907.
Is UNESCO let Thai bully this organization too? Now, Thai is not just bully Khmer but bully the UNESCO. Thai is needed to be taught a lesson that bully your neightbour is not going to be tolerated. UNESCO has to do your job, otherwise this organization is nothing more than a waste of world people tax money.
à anet khmer !
vous avez aussi commenté sur Khmerization , de demander la coupure du territoire 4,6 km2 en 2.
Or que , je ne suis pas d'accord , avec vous , c'est que les thais ne respectent jamais leur signature .
La preuve !le traité Franco-Siamois de 1907 ! les Siems n'ont jamais respecté.
Vous partagez aujourd'hui , plus tard , ils réclament d'autres parties.
Les siems min chaul kbourns ...
A mon avis , il faut que les cambodgiens recourent à l'ONU en saisissant la Cour International de la Haye de nouveau.
Anet Khmer
Very good analyzing. I agree about Thailand being a stronger nation and trying to favor international support on their side. They are wrong, and we have always been the victim throughout our history! When will we stop becoming smaller? Our population is growing and our land means everything, but we need to make sure that their threats of war will never happen. I cannot picture Khmer women and children being killed. I am for peace in a nonviolent manner. Your options are good, but if you give a cookie they always want milk!
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Abhisit is a new Hitler in asia.
ថ្មព្រះវិហារ ស្រែកសួររកគ្នា
តើយើងខុសអ្វី បានជាពួកសៀម
ចោរទមិឡចង្រៃ បាញ់គ្មានប្រណី
បំបែកស្បែកយើង។
ថ្មខឹងខ្លាំងណាស់ ដ្បិតអាយុចាស់ រាប់ពាន់ឆ្នាំហើយ មនុស្សម្នាស្រឡាញ់
អង្អែលមិនស្បើយ មិនដែលមានឡើយ
នូវភាពឫស្យារ។
ថ្មឫទ្ធិថ្លៃថ្លា ថ្មស្រែកផ្តន្ទា
បណ្តាសាសៀម អោយវាមានទុក្ខ
កលិយុគវិនាស បាងកកព្រាត់ប្រាស
រលាយសាបសូន្យ។
អោយយន្តហោះវា ហោះឆ្ពោះបុកគ្នា
ឆេះរាលរថក្រោះ អាវុធចំបាំង
ក្លាយទៅជាផេះ ដើម្បីអោយចេះ
គោរពថ្មខ្មែរ។
To make easy for your thought, please understand that in my above writing, I am assuming that the UNSC and the ICJ cannot resolve this dispute over the 4.6 square km area for whatever reason and/or because Thailand refuses this time to be a binding party in the ICJ confirmation of the 1962 verdict with respect to the 4.6 square km area.
Anet Khmer
what the pity these mess siamese robbers specially abishit
I am a Cambodian and I support the government’s effort to protect our western border with Thailand. However, I feel that the government should have also protected the Eastern border with Vietnam based on the Cambodian Map deposited with the United Nation in 1955 which is the only Legal Map, recognized by all nations of the world, that show Cambodia has an area of 181,035 square kilometers. The subsequent border adjustments between Vietnam and Cambodia from 1979 to date was detrimental to Cambodian People via an Unequal Treaties that Vietnam imposed over Cambodia. With these Unequal Treaties, Cambodia lost a few thousand of Kilometers Squares of territory to Vietnam. Therefore, the protection of only the western part of territory was not sufficient, the current government has a fiduciary duty to protect all Cambodian territory including the Eastern Border with Vietnam. The only equitable way to resolve this problem is to follow the 1955 Cambodian Map deposited at the United Nation. Any subsequent Treaties that Adjust the Territory between Cambodia and Vietnam should have been null and void.
4:09 AM,
The person who suggested that the 4.6 square km area should be cut in half is not me!
The 2 options presented above are not mine. They are ideas expressed by other Cambodians and I posted them here so that all of you can discuss the options and say what Cambodia should do when Thailand refuses to abide by anything put forward.
Anet Khmer
The person who suggested that the 4.6 square km area should be cut in half should be himself cut in half! He is a treator! He works for siem ambition, really! Where we should stop if the next day siems ask for Siem Reap, Battambang, etc... If you think that because they are stronger, we have to cut these provinces in half again? Think about this trator!
4.6 Km2 is just what Siam said the cause of the problem but their real intention (imagination) is Preh Vihear.
They are drooling over Preah Vihear.
I'm agree with 4:58am. Why should we give the siem half of our land, Its our. If the siem want it very badly, then i say we should and will fight the siem till the end.
4:58 AM,
Forget about cutting another Khmer in half. You live in the US, you should have more compassion and understanding for another Khmer person.
Violence is not the way to solve the problem lest we follow in the same path of the Khmer Rouge again.
He is just suggesting an idea. After all, you love democracy and freedom, don't you? So why are you threatening to shut somebody up because he or she is just expressing his or her opinion which is different from you. You have yours and he or she has his or her. After all, Cambodia does not just belong to you!
I am pretty sure you hate Pol Pot and his regime so stay away from using such a mean to discuss an issue. Keep your emotion where it belongs in your head and discuss with intelligence.
So far you have not contributed any solution to the problem.
What is your solution? Go to war at all cost? If so, are you ready to come down here and join the army with me to repell the Thais?
Make sure you bring some money and your relatives and friends to help also since Cambodia needs lots of money if she is going to go to wars since we may have to fight both eastern and western frontiers at the same time.
"... the issue of Preah Vihear temple, which is a World Heritage site, should not further raise tension on the Thai-Cambodian border."
Listen Abullshit,
You have tried to take contoll over the area 4.6 in the last several years. you did not win over the force of the truth and the facts.
Now you goes against the fact and the truth about the Cambodian ancent temple. Good luck!
Thailand is big compare to Cambodia but Thai is way too small to make a demand on the world body. Nice try, Mr. Oxford graduate!
Give it to Thailand and let the curse be upon them instead of upon Cambodia!
Come on, hasn't Cambodians suffered enough through these false gods we worship?
Oh that the nations would acknowledge their true Creator, the Holy One of Israel.
God wants men everywhere to repent and turn to him because a set time is appointed when he will judge this world with his wrath.
He is the ONE who gives us life everyday. But we give our praise to another god, wouldn't that cause him to be wrathful?
Come on, most of you are wrathful with the Thai because they claimed that the temple belong to them. And you will go through great length to defend that violation. Exactly, God is more longsuffering with our ignorance toward him. He is the One who created this world and place men upon it but men forget who the rightful owner of this world is, so we build a temple to Lord Shiva which is a false god and because we worship a false god our lives are in ruin by that belief.
Satan is behind the false gods of this world. Since the nature of Satan is to steal, kill and destroy by that testimony it fits well with the history of Cambodia.
God is for us. But we as the people will have to come on his term to seek his grace and forgiveness for erring from him as our true source of life. Because everything in life comes from him.
Our rejection of him will only bring terror in life and no hope of a better future.
Anet Khmer
I understand your concern about eastern border. if you have any plan to suggest about easterm border, please lay it out.
Western border is a non issue. The temple, sourounding area included, is Cambodian property. No question, no suggestion and no plit either. I totally support Hun Sen move to bring the case to the world court of justice. let the Thai goes against the court decision. Cambodia will sit and watch!
The real issue is not whether Cambodia is losing a few thousand square kilometres to Vietnam or a few square kilometres to Thailand.
At the heart of the concept of sovereignty is the principle that territory is non-negotiable, nor is it violable through any deal, treaty or raw aggression.
I think it is vital that Khmer people in government or outside of it grasp this basic tenet in human law or international relations.
No matter how just or unjust the outside world is towards Cambodia, the ultimate challenge and responsibility lie with the Khmer people and government themselves.
I agree that Cambodia should use legal frameworks and documents (including known map(s) deposited at the UN) as foci for settling territorial disputes or issues with neighbouring countries.
Now, the dispute with the Thais is to do with a lot more than the so-called 4.6 square km2(in my view) and, whilst this is being the case, ceding half of that land to the Thais is unlikely to solve the conflict in the long term. In fact, as a nation, Cambodia should know better than most that ceding territories or failing to defend them against encroachments offers no lasting solution to her territorial decline.
Corruption is hardly going to disappear overnight and it should not be a factor in how Cambodians attempt to reach strategic decisions with regard to territorial disputes.
I do not want to elaborate too much on this subject, but I would urge all Khmers to imbibe the principle mentioned above; reflect on it and instill it in their children and friends, students, colleagues and so forth.
The outside world also consists of pluralistic forces and democratic institutions that embody the will and aspirations of ordinary people beside their governments who may succeed in misleading their electorates once or twice, but may not fool them all of the time.
Even without conflict in the west, there is no guarantee that a similar conflict will not arise in the east or that Cambodia is better equipped to deal with such a challenge undivided in attention and resources. Cambodia cannot match either of her foes in a conventional sense, but she can 'bleed' them and force them to accept her rightful existence as a nation and people on the face of this planet. This is why Cambodia must abide by legal norms, and let the other parties mind their business.
It would help to have a wise leadership and a people unbowed, erect and confident in determining their own lives.
For any people to be strong, they must be free, since real freedom is the most reliable bulwark against external threat and oppression.
Ko-Prey
SIEM ) ) )khmer( ( ( YUON
treasures = BINGO!
Ko-Prey,
Very well said, indeed.
Anet Khmer
Ko-Prey and Anet Khmer I am surprised at your insights into this discussion, especially if you are Khmer nationals in Cambodia or Khmer living abroad. You guys are very literate and educated from just reading your posts I can deduce that. Yes, Cambodia does need change in the areas of leadership and freedom. But many feel this isn't the time for division, this is the time where unity is needed the most. Many are too blinded by nationalistic ideals to see that.
- Khmer Student
Common my beloved Khmer people. I understand that we are very patriotic toward our beloved country. I also understand that we can express many views regarding this conflict. That is all good.
Look I'm not an academia like Dr. Peng-meth nor a politician from Cambodia. But I love my country with all my heart and soul just like every Khmer. I will defense her til death if threaten. But one thing you can count on is that I would never ever give in to appease the bully, Siem. You know from world history that appeasement doesn't work as seen in WWI when Winston Churchill tried to appease the German. It will never work in any situation.
Now in the case of Prasat Preah Vihear we should apply the same principle here. It's hard for me to speculate that the international community would pendulate the ICJ of 1962. If this ever the case, then the World Court itself would call into question. That would also open a can of worms out there. The entire world would question the legitimacy of their border agreements and therefore would turn the world into chaos. I really don't believe that would happend. We have to stick to our principles of truth, rule of laws and defender of our sovereignty.
God bless Cambodia and all Khmer people around the world.
If the Siem can get half of the land around Preah Vihear temple, why they should stop there? Look at the two Thai caught and imprisoned now in Prey Sar. They argued that they were caught in their territory. I guess that according to them, Thai territory can be as far away from there as they can walk to. And just because they want that land, will you want to give them that half of that territory as well? We may suffer as if our body were cut in half. It really silly to think that giving them the half of that territory can solve the entire problem with Siem. In contrary, that would create a bad precedence that youn or even Lao would like to use in the future as well. We have experience a lot of sufferings already; we have given a lot of our land to Siem already. Why we should give those more and expect Siem ambition may dry up there? Please think again our fellow compatriots!!!
Let us not forget that the much bigger danger to Cambodia is not so much from Thailand, but from Vietnam and the Hun Sen's group working from within that will destroy Cambodia in a long run.
Right now Hun Sen is using the Preah Vihear issue to show that he is nationalistic and tough by standing firm to the Thais for the 4.6 square km area and yet on the eastern border he allows the Vietnamese to dictate how to demarcate the border using the 2005treaty as a base for the work. He also allows Viet immigrants to live freely in Cambodia so they can vote for him and finally the control of so many hectars of land through Vietnamese companies are also of serious concern.
Anet Khmer
you see how khmer people are, this is just a proganda, they start bickering among themselves already.
Khmer people!
Would it be not politically correct if all us Khmer start talking about demanding our provinces back from the Siem? I am not sure how the Siem are going to react. But I'm hoping that this would at least put an idea in their mind that the land the fabrication of 4.6sq km is Khmer land and so are the than 13 provinces that the Siem took by force. We never agreed to give those provinces either. The French wasn't smart enought to take back when they won the war.
Khmer Israel, give Jerusalem back to the rightful owner, Palestine before you come here to preach us, O.K?
Agree with Anet Khmer 100%
Anet Khmer.
Siem said the world court gives only the old stome to khmer, not the land.
typical Thai logic is Guess what? old stone temple sits on top of land that is belong to thai. thai would also say move your old stone elswhere. underneeth is thai land. Or thai will charge rent.
so Cambodia ia going to move the Temple stone to Hanoi, i guess.
Anet Thai & Anet Youn
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